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Revenant gets new Weapon in LW5, what weapon would you want and what kind of skills you want on it?

Knighthonor.4061Knighthonor.4061 Member ✭✭✭✭

hypothetically speaking lets say LW5 gives the Revenant a new weapon (Not Elite Spec), what weapon would you want this to be, and what kind of skills do you want on this new weapon?

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  • Dadnir.5038Dadnir.5038 Member ✭✭✭✭

    I'm surprised that there wasn't already a flood of GS.
    All in all, I think a 900 range main hand weapon would be my pick. I'd choose Axe main hand with skills designed close to what necromancer's main hand axe does.
    AA: slash at your foe tearing a rift through space and hiting your enemy.
    Skill#2: cleave in front of you, tearing space and hiting up to 5 foes in a cone (range 600).
    Skill#3: Make 3 quick wide slashs, sending projectiles made out of mist energy (range 1200. 100% projectile finisher)

  • Knighthonor.4061Knighthonor.4061 Member ✭✭✭✭

    I want GS but I rather something gets fleshed out for GS with Elite Spec.

    Another off hand weapon would be nice, but also want a ranged support weapon. So Land Trident would be cool for me or off hand ranged dagger.

    For dagger I want channeled soul drain like ability from Warlocks in WoW classic.

    But if Trident I want really good AoE healing and defensive group support on a balanced energy cost that can be traited for salvation. Would like lots of ground target abilities here and a large channel heal. And upkeep on a weapon seem unique as well.

  • I'd rather see GS. Better not end up in another SHORT dissapointment

  • Aeolus.3615Aeolus.3615 Member ✭✭✭✭

    I would prefer gs in elite, for a non elite traitline a weapon I think we need a offhand weapon like a focus or anything arround that.

    This because if we receive the other offhands in elite specs we end only using them in that elite spec and at least one more offhand weapon needs to be in core ;/

  • Pterikdactyl.7630Pterikdactyl.7630 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Personally I want offhand focus. Binding of Ipos, hello?

    Give a block to one of the skills. This immediately lessens the monopoly that staff has on condi builds. Take Abyssal Chill and sword/focus could be a viable secondary set for condi/hybrid builds.

    Personally I would like a boon-RIP utility skill for the other skill. Kinda like Necro focus 5 but less damage and more utility. Have it grant a boon and give it an interaction with Spirit Boon.

    Healing orbs are a mistake. Please delete them ANet.

  • Turkeyspit.3965Turkeyspit.3965 Member ✭✭✭✭

    GS all the way, since ANET can't seem to figure out how to balance Revenant offhands.

  • Catchyfx.5768Catchyfx.5768 Member ✭✭✭

    @Turkeyspit.3965 said:
    GS all the way, since ANET can't seem to figure out how to balance Revenant offhands.

    Well this looks like a challange to me.

    Jokaurene

  • Elric.4713Elric.4713 Member ✭✭✭

    Scepter, focus, daggers and warhorn are my top contenders for future Rev weapons. Scepter I'd save for Ritualist E-spec but any of the rest I'd be ok with being added as core.

    👻Legendary Ritualist Stance - Invoke the power of the legendary ritualist Master Togo.

  • draxynnic.3719draxynnic.3719 Member ✭✭✭✭

    From the nature of the question, we really should be asking 'what is core revenant missing' rather than 'what has the fanciest graphics'.

    With this being the case: Ranged condition damage weapon all the way. The reasons being:

    1) Now that revenant has weaponswap, and given that condi core is SUPPOSED to be viable, there really needs to be a suitable weaponswap available for core condi revenants (and elite specs that don't bring a condition weapon) to use. Presently, such builds are typically forced into staff or sword for defence or trait synergies.

    2) Revenant only having one core ranged weapon makes it very sensitive to the balance of that weapon. Other professions having multiple ranged weapons means that if one gets nerfed too hard, they can fall back on the other.

    Without such a core weapon, any elite specialisation which is intended to offer any damaging condition power is pretty much obliged to fill that shortfall in the core profession. It's probably a large part of why Kalla got a shortbow instead of a greatsword.

    I'd probably see it as being linked to Invocation, employing 'pure' Mists manipulation over channeling a specific legend. Scepter, possibly coupled with a new offhand, might therefore be a good option.

  • Scoobaniec.9561Scoobaniec.9561 Member ✭✭✭

    Whats the point of scepter when you do not have offhand weapon to pair it with?
    Revenant used to be warrior so i think rifle would be perfect fit for core ranged condi weapon. It would also be unique compared to other rifles which are power based

  • LucianDK.8615LucianDK.8615 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Scoobaniec.9561 said:
    Whats the point of scepter when you do not have offhand weapon to pair it with?
    Revenant used to be warrior so i think rifle would be perfect fit for core ranged condi weapon. It would also be unique compared to other rifles which are power based

    Which is why ppl usually say scepter+focus for their next set. Spellbreaker shows its not impossible to get two weapons.

  • Scoobaniec.9561Scoobaniec.9561 Member ✭✭✭

    @LucianDK.8615 said:

    @Scoobaniec.9561 said:
    Whats the point of scepter when you do not have offhand weapon to pair it with?
    Revenant used to be warrior so i think rifle would be perfect fit for core ranged condi weapon. It would also be unique compared to other rifles which are power based

    Which is why ppl usually say scepter+focus for their next set. Spellbreaker shows its not impossible to get two weapons.

    We are talking about base here

  • Thornwolf.9721Thornwolf.9721 Member ✭✭✭

    @LucianDK.8615 said:

    @Scoobaniec.9561 said:
    Whats the point of scepter when you do not have offhand weapon to pair it with?
    Revenant used to be warrior so i think rifle would be perfect fit for core ranged condi weapon. It would also be unique compared to other rifles which are power based

    Which is why ppl usually say scepter+focus for their next set. Spellbreaker shows its not impossible to get two weapons.

    @Scoobaniec.9561 said:
    Whats the point of scepter when you do not have offhand weapon to pair it with?
    Revenant used to be warrior so i think rifle would be perfect fit for core ranged condi weapon. It would also be unique compared to other rifles which are power based

    just add scepter +Focus to core, and then make a greatsword elite spec so that way everyone wins. This would also mean the Elite spec could be something unique in of itself and not have to cover up short comings of the core class.

  • Yasai.3549Yasai.3549 Member ✭✭✭

    I just want more customizable stuff, and less 2 handed.

    Revenant has too many 2handed weapons already.

    I want Mainhand Axe and Main and offhand Daggers

    If I play a stupid build, I deserve to die.
    If I beat people on a stupid build, I deserve to get away with it.

  • LucianTheAngelic.7054LucianTheAngelic.7054 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited August 10, 2019

    Been saying it for years: Scepter + Focus. 900 Range Power Damage AoE spec with defensive utility so it doesn't suck in competitive modes. Or Hybrid so it can work with Condi too

    Legend: Vizier Khilbron, Master Togo, or Razah

    (Also if we end up with GS I'd want Svanir or Varesh Ossa)

    Edit: Just noticed this was for Core, not for elite. I don't think we need any other core weapons honestly. If anything it was a Ranged Condi weapon, but that ship has sailed.

  • Justine.6351Justine.6351 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Anet buff me :-(
    Make me good at game!

  • Knighthonor.4061Knighthonor.4061 Member ✭✭✭✭

    "Which weapon would you like to see for third elite ?"

    vs whats in the OP

    "hypothetically speaking lets say LW5 gives the Revenant a new weapon (Not Elite Spec), what weapon would you want this to be, and what kind of skills do you want on this new weapon?"

  • Justine.6351Justine.6351 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Knighthonor.4061 said:

    "Which weapon would you like to see for third elite ?"

    vs whats in the OP

    "hypothetically speaking lets say LW5 gives the Revenant a new weapon (Not Elite Spec), what weapon would you want this to be, and what kind of skills do you want on this new weapon?"

    It's the same question with an irrelevant twist. If you had made it a poll you would have seen the same ratios and many of the same reasons.

    Anet buff me :-(
    Make me good at game!

  • draxynnic.3719draxynnic.3719 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Scoobaniec.9561 said:
    Whats the point of scepter when you do not have offhand weapon to pair it with?
    Revenant used to be warrior so i think rifle would be perfect fit for core ranged condi weapon. It would also be unique compared to other rifles which are power based

    Hypothetically speaking, coupling a ranged mainhand with offhand axe or sword could work. The teleports would probably be less useful if coupled with a ranged weapon, but Shackling Wave and Temporal Rift can serve as the close-range crowd control you often have on ranged sets. It'd be similar to guardian offhands, which are usually more suited for melee than ranged, but are still of some use when paired with a scepter for ranged combat.

    Theoretically speaking, it could also match with herald shield and any other future offhands that are produced.

    @Justine.6351 said:

    @Knighthonor.4061 said:

    "Which weapon would you like to see for third elite ?"

    vs whats in the OP

    "hypothetically speaking lets say LW5 gives the Revenant a new weapon (Not Elite Spec), what weapon would you want this to be, and what kind of skills do you want on this new weapon?"

    It's the same question with an irrelevant twist. If you had made it a poll you would have seen the same ratios and many of the same reasons.

    It's actually a very important twist - it makes it about picking out something that core is currently missing which it needs, rather than just something that would be fun to have. It also means that it's just about a weapon to fill a gap in core, rather than something that might have a legend and playstyle built around it. Which is why most people are choosing something that isn't greatsword.

  • narcx.3570narcx.3570 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited August 11, 2019

    Nothing.

    There's nothing productive that could be added without coming with insane nerfs to better, already existing, skills that we have.

    Aside from filling gaps in fashionwarz'ing and for the role-player kids who want GS that is.

  • Catchyfx.5768Catchyfx.5768 Member ✭✭✭

    I would like to have some new ofdhand(no condi no power just pure selfish mabye some support aspect for pvp/wvw builds so we dont need glints heal

    Jokaurene

  • DonArkanio.6419DonArkanio.6419 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited August 14, 2019

    Actually.
    Core Rev could use Daggers, Scepter, Focus and Warhorn. We need Off-hands because the choice is poor.
    All will fit.

    I just don't want to see anything like Renegade ever again.

  • Lonewolf Kai.3682Lonewolf Kai.3682 Member ✭✭✭
    edited August 15, 2019

    I actually used to be one the GS requesters, but lately I’ve been really wanting to see dual daggers on Rev.

  • Catchyfx.5768Catchyfx.5768 Member ✭✭✭
    edited August 15, 2019

    Anything if it will work even outside of openworld.

    Jokaurene

  • Dagger dagger

  • Aeolus.3615Aeolus.3615 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Scoobaniec.9561 said:
    Whats the point of scepter when you do not have offhand weapon to pair it with?
    Revenant used to be warrior so i think rifle would be perfect fit for core ranged condi weapon. It would also be unique compared to other rifles which are power based

    That’s what I have been saying, core rev is lacking a offhand that isn’t an elite spec.

    Next weapons should be core...

  • Terra.9506Terra.9506 Member ✭✭

    Great Sword but range attack. :p

  • Knighthonor.4061Knighthonor.4061 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Terra.9506 said:
    Great Sword but range attack. :p

    Ban this Troll!! /s

  • Aeolus.3615Aeolus.3615 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Knighthonor.4061 said:

    @Terra.9506 said:
    Great Sword but range attack. :p

    Ban this Troll!! /s

    Purge that player and whom liked it...

  • Taobella.6597Taobella.6597 Member ✭✭✭

    i would like rev to get a staff like weapon on ele heavily focus on omega big spells. so i pick focus main hand ;)

  • @Terra.9506 said:
    Great Sword but range attack. :p

    I think you mean "a rifle that shots greatswords"

  • Terra.9506Terra.9506 Member ✭✭
    edited September 3, 2019

    @Knighthonor.4061 said:

    @Terra.9506 said:
    Great Sword but range attack. :p

    Ban this Troll!! /s

    But I'm serious... I away wish my reverent have rapid fire range weapon consider both Hammer and short bow so slow and annoy to use. Other than that great sword alway look great on everyone back than rifle. It didn't need large range like Hammer or Short Bow but make it shoot energy blade attack multiple enemy in limit range would satisfy me enough.

    other option would be Spear for land weapon.

  • Great sword. As a ranged weapon. That operates like the trident does underwater. Doing effects on each ledgend for each attack.

    Fill the gap with a kitten weld.

  • Sorry for double post, but I thought about this some more.

    Great sword should be a ranged option, tied to the invocation trait line. (in the way that each other weapon is tied to a line.) it should operate to 900/melee range. As its tied to invocation, it should function much like the trident does underwater.

    I would suggest the following.

    1. Rend the mists- The revenant slashes through the air, cutting deep into the mists. Deal damage, and an additional effect based on your current ledgend. Range 900. Fast channel, like mesmer GS1, looks like hundred blades, with mist energy slashes appearing on the target. No projectiles.

    Jallis- retaliation AoE @ target on last tick, -10% incoming damage while channeling.
    Mallyx- apply torment per tick
    Shiro- gain 10% increased critical chance
    Ventari- energy slashes heal allies and AoE regeneration @ target on last tick.
    Glint- might to allies per tick, Burn AoE @ target on last tick
    Kala- Apply kala's fervor and bleed per tick

    1. Ledgend rush- plunge your great sword into the ground, opening a portal to the mists, allowing your channeled ledgend to attack. Ledgend shadow explosion is a blast finisher. A mesmer-like "clone" of the ledgend your using rushes forward with an appropriate leap animation and explodes into mist energy dealing an effect based on ledgend. Counts as a projectile.

    Jallis- Cripple
    Mallyx- Poison
    Shiro- Vulnerability
    Ventari- AoE splash heal @ target
    Glint- Burn
    Kala- Bleed

    1. Mist whirl- the revenant spins thier greatsword around in a spiral dealing low damage, and knock back. And deals an effect based on ledgend. Ticks three times getting larger each time. First tick applies the strongest knockback, subsequent hits are weaker. (enough that if you don't move at all, the second hit won't hit you)

    Jallis- daze
    Mallyx- chill
    Shiro- weakness
    Ventari- spawn a healing orb per enemy hit.
    Glint- recharge consume skills by 1 sec on last tick
    Kala- cripple

    1. Mist Fjord - The revenant leaps up, bringing thier greatsword up over thier head for a huge downward smash, dealing a large damage in melee range and splitting the ground between you and your target. gains an effect based on ledgend. This creates thin zigzagged beams, whose lighting shape is random, but leaves thin combo fields, that tick for multiple small amounts of damage. Leaves more zigzags the higher your energy when cast.

    Jallis- lightning field pulsing retaliation
    Mallyx- dark field pulsing torment
    Shiro- no combo field, much higher damage ticks.
    Ventari- light field, pulsing healing.
    Glint- fire field pulsing burning
    Kala- no combo field, 2 stacks bleed per pulse.

    1. Fading Mists- Slash a ragged tear in the mists, then leap backwards through it. Causes an effect to anyone moving through the tear based on ledgend. This is a very short range backwards leap, into a portal, which exits, a very short range directly behind. Up to 2 targets friendly or enemy may traverse the portal. The net effect would be something like deadeye's rifle 4... That leaves two mist portals. Theses activate instantly for enemy players, and must be 'used' by friendly players. The portals will last for 1.5 sec.

    Jallis- Immobalize the enemy, cure movement impairing Conditions on friendly.
    Mallyx- Convert enemy boons into Confusion, Resistance to friendly.
    Shiro- enemy is turned to Jade for 1/2sec, gain might on friendly.
    Ventari- enemy is dazed, cure conditions on friendly
    Glint- enemy is chilled and burned, swiftness and fury on friendly.
    Kala- bleed the enemy, apply cripple. Next few attacks steal life on friendly.

  • GS, defo GS.
    Alternatively, a Main hand axe.

    Can't see anything else suiting revs.
    Perhaps a rifle wouldn't be so bad, as long as it's not a joke like the engies.

  • Aeolus.3615Aeolus.3615 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited September 5, 2019

    @Taobella.6597 said:
    i would like rev to get a staff like weapon on ele heavily focus on omega big spells. so i pick focus main hand ;)

    i can imagine that on a specter & torch build :\ usage but for that one of those need to end on a new non elite :\

  • Taobella.6597Taobella.6597 Member ✭✭✭

    would be cool :)

  • Master Ketsu.4569Master Ketsu.4569 Member ✭✭✭✭

    I've always thought it would be cool if every core class had 1 weapon and 4 skills that could only be used by their core spec that are lost when choosing an elite. Would go a long way to bring core specs in balance with elite and curb the occasional "Pay2win" accusations the game gets. There are currently way too many elite specs that are just direct upgrades over the core.

  • @Master Ketsu.4569 said:
    I've always thought it would be cool if every core class had 1 weapon and 4 skills that could only be used by their core spec that are lost when choosing an elite. Would go a long way to bring core specs in balance with elite and curb the occasional "Pay2win" accusations the game gets. There are currently way too many elite specs that are just direct upgrades over the core.

    Seconded. Motion to pass on to a vote?

  • narcx.3570narcx.3570 Member ✭✭✭✭

    I would want "Reality pistols."

    Skills 1-5 all do the same thing, no matter what stance your in, and that thing is to bend time and space to make Anet release playable content faster.

  • Rashagar.8349Rashagar.8349 Member ✭✭✭

    @BrokenGlass.9356 said:
    Great sword. As a ranged weapon. That operates like the trident does underwater. Doing effects on each ledgend for each attack.

    Fill the gap with a kitten weld.

    Actually, I'm really liking the idea of this applied to an offhand focus instead.

    The idea of focus being a weapon that lets you bond more powerfully with your legend of choice, with say 1 relatively static skill and 1 that varies based on current legend. This way an extra core weapon can still fit into their current "each legend has an associated weapon set" thing, plus provide an offhand that can work with multiple set ups.

  • Dante.1508Dante.1508 Member ✭✭
    edited September 13, 2019

    Daggers. Its got to be dual daggers.

    To be honest i was shocked daggers where not on this class by default.

  • Aeolus.3615Aeolus.3615 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Dante.1508 said:
    Daggers. Its got to be dual daggers.

    To be honest i was shocked daggers where not on this class by default.

    Could imagine that with Nika or Vizu as legends.

  • DonArkanio.6419DonArkanio.6419 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited September 13, 2019

    @Dante.1508 said:
    Daggers. Its got to be dual daggers.

    To be honest i was shocked daggers where not on this class by default.

    I am shocked by what they are doing to gut this class so it doesn't stand out. Daggers are even on the forum concept, but hey - we gotta nerf hammer.

  • A ranged condi weapon not tied to an elite spec. Likely already mentioned, but yeah.

    And I'd make it a dagger, just to keep things weird. "Stab into the mists".

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