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  • @Strider Pj.2193 said:

    @Jayden Reese.9542 said:

    @Ayrilana.1396 said:

    @solemn.9608 said:

    @knite.1542 said:

    @Pagan Highlander.5948 said:
    Lets see, Option A, spend $20 to transfer and be stuck in mind numbing queues on BG all week, then following mindless map blobs on Bg or stuck on siege for hours and being bored senseless or option B: actually have fun and a challenge in WvW on any other server. Hmmm, I'll go with Option B

    lol. So many people making ridiculous claims that have no idea what they are talking about. Where are you getting the data on these mind numbing queues? Did someone else that doesn't know what they are talking about tell you that?

    Saying you don't think you'd have fun on BG is fair and reasonable, but pulling made up information out of the air is a bit silly. Last reset, we had a queue of 18 people on EBG and maybe 7 on Blue BL. Other 2 maps not queued. Are these the mind numbing queues you are referring to?

    I am on BG and I am regularly getting outnumbered pips. I have not sat in a queue in ages. Please enlighten me on where you are getting your information.

    edit: But please, by all means go with option B. You don't want to be on Blackgate and chances are we don't want you on BG.

    Lol I’ve been linked with BG and I’ve seen the queues, don’t lie dude.

    Most of the time there’s only a queue on one map which tends to be EB. A lot of the other maps you can get the outnumbered buff and quite often during prime time hours.

    Yeah but isn't that most servers. No one is out there with ques on 2 maps let alone 3 or 4 except on reset or the famous YB quad link fiasco. Zerg moves from bl to ebg then bl becomes outnumbered. Just because you got those extra 5 pips doesn't mean you don't have the bigger zerg running or better overall coverage.

    No one has said anything about coverage. It was addressing the meme that is BG is queued on all maps all the time lol.

    Read back through the quotes. Someone noted how they have gotten legendary armor with outnumbered pips from facing BG. I noted I have 2.5 sets of the same from outnumbered maps while ON BG.

    But yeah.. w/e Jayden. I know you won’t believe any of it anyway. It’s all good. Believe the hype.

    You are the one that should "reread some quotes" I wasn't even referring to BG. Many a time I've sat in EBG w outnumbered buff while our zerg routed some Bl. Just because you find one map outnumbered doesn't mean you have less total players at that time. It means you went to a bl that happens to be outnumbered and your zerg could be in ebg with 50 vs 30 vs 30. Which means if those 30 att anything on a bl you can defend and you still can get outnumbered pips somewhere else. Now not BG any server so saying I get outnumbered pips on or vs BG proves nothing. You chose extra pips or go where the action is a lot of the times. My point was also there are no servers not even BG that are queing every map but most servers got huge timezone coverage gaps and BG is just more evenly distributed. You aren't gonna win the meme war so stop defending it so intensely as the haters will hate with no regards to correct info.

  • Strider Pj.2193Strider Pj.2193 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Jayden Reese.9542 said:

    @Strider Pj.2193 said:

    @Jayden Reese.9542 said:

    @Ayrilana.1396 said:

    @solemn.9608 said:

    @knite.1542 said:

    @Pagan Highlander.5948 said:
    Lets see, Option A, spend $20 to transfer and be stuck in mind numbing queues on BG all week, then following mindless map blobs on Bg or stuck on siege for hours and being bored senseless or option B: actually have fun and a challenge in WvW on any other server. Hmmm, I'll go with Option B

    lol. So many people making ridiculous claims that have no idea what they are talking about. Where are you getting the data on these mind numbing queues? Did someone else that doesn't know what they are talking about tell you that?

    Saying you don't think you'd have fun on BG is fair and reasonable, but pulling made up information out of the air is a bit silly. Last reset, we had a queue of 18 people on EBG and maybe 7 on Blue BL. Other 2 maps not queued. Are these the mind numbing queues you are referring to?

    I am on BG and I am regularly getting outnumbered pips. I have not sat in a queue in ages. Please enlighten me on where you are getting your information.

    edit: But please, by all means go with option B. You don't want to be on Blackgate and chances are we don't want you on BG.

    Lol I’ve been linked with BG and I’ve seen the queues, don’t lie dude.

    Most of the time there’s only a queue on one map which tends to be EB. A lot of the other maps you can get the outnumbered buff and quite often during prime time hours.

    Yeah but isn't that most servers. No one is out there with ques on 2 maps let alone 3 or 4 except on reset or the famous YB quad link fiasco. Zerg moves from bl to ebg then bl becomes outnumbered. Just because you got those extra 5 pips doesn't mean you don't have the bigger zerg running or better overall coverage.

    No one has said anything about coverage. It was addressing the meme that is BG is queued on all maps all the time lol.

    Read back through the quotes. Someone noted how they have gotten legendary armor with outnumbered pips from facing BG. I noted I have 2.5 sets of the same from outnumbered maps while ON BG.

    But yeah.. w/e Jayden. I know you won’t believe any of it anyway. It’s all good. Believe the hype.

    You are the one that should "reread some quotes" I wasn't even referring to BG. Many a time I've sat in EBG w outnumbered buff while our zerg routed some Bl. Just because you find one map outnumbered doesn't mean you have less total players at that time. It means you went to a bl that happens to be outnumbered and your zerg could be in ebg with 50 vs 30 vs 30. Which means if those 30 att anything on a bl you can defend and you still can get outnumbered pips somewhere else. Now not BG any server so saying I get outnumbered pips on or vs BG proves nothing. You chose extra pips or go where the action is a lot of the times. My point was also there are no servers not even BG that are queing every map but most servers got huge timezone coverage gaps and BG is just more evenly distributed. You aren't gonna win the meme war so stop defending it so intensely as the haters will hate with no regards to correct info.

    So... you didn’t read back through the quotes as to what I was referring to.

    No worries man.

  • @Strider Pj.2193 said:

    @Jayden Reese.9542 said:

    @Strider Pj.2193 said:

    @Jayden Reese.9542 said:

    @Ayrilana.1396 said:

    @solemn.9608 said:

    @knite.1542 said:

    @Pagan Highlander.5948 said:
    Lets see, Option A, spend $20 to transfer and be stuck in mind numbing queues on BG all week, then following mindless map blobs on Bg or stuck on siege for hours and being bored senseless or option B: actually have fun and a challenge in WvW on any other server. Hmmm, I'll go with Option B

    lol. So many people making ridiculous claims that have no idea what they are talking about. Where are you getting the data on these mind numbing queues? Did someone else that doesn't know what they are talking about tell you that?

    Saying you don't think you'd have fun on BG is fair and reasonable, but pulling made up information out of the air is a bit silly. Last reset, we had a queue of 18 people on EBG and maybe 7 on Blue BL. Other 2 maps not queued. Are these the mind numbing queues you are referring to?

    I am on BG and I am regularly getting outnumbered pips. I have not sat in a queue in ages. Please enlighten me on where you are getting your information.

    edit: But please, by all means go with option B. You don't want to be on Blackgate and chances are we don't want you on BG.

    Lol I’ve been linked with BG and I’ve seen the queues, don’t lie dude.

    Most of the time there’s only a queue on one map which tends to be EB. A lot of the other maps you can get the outnumbered buff and quite often during prime time hours.

    Yeah but isn't that most servers. No one is out there with ques on 2 maps let alone 3 or 4 except on reset or the famous YB quad link fiasco. Zerg moves from bl to ebg then bl becomes outnumbered. Just because you got those extra 5 pips doesn't mean you don't have the bigger zerg running or better overall coverage.

    No one has said anything about coverage. It was addressing the meme that is BG is queued on all maps all the time lol.

    Read back through the quotes. Someone noted how they have gotten legendary armor with outnumbered pips from facing BG. I noted I have 2.5 sets of the same from outnumbered maps while ON BG.

    But yeah.. w/e Jayden. I know you won’t believe any of it anyway. It’s all good. Believe the hype.

    You are the one that should "reread some quotes" I wasn't even referring to BG. Many a time I've sat in EBG w outnumbered buff while our zerg routed some Bl. Just because you find one map outnumbered doesn't mean you have less total players at that time. It means you went to a bl that happens to be outnumbered and your zerg could be in ebg with 50 vs 30 vs 30. Which means if those 30 att anything on a bl you can defend and you still can get outnumbered pips somewhere else. Now not BG any server so saying I get outnumbered pips on or vs BG proves nothing. You chose extra pips or go where the action is a lot of the times. My point was also there are no servers not even BG that are queing every map but most servers got huge timezone coverage gaps and BG is just more evenly distributed. You aren't gonna win the meme war so stop defending it so intensely as the haters will hate with no regards to correct info.

    So... you didn’t read back through the quotes as to what I was referring to.

    No worries man.

    Yeah I did. Still don't see why my last word coverage was the only thing you got upset about as everything else supported BG isn't qued on every map but used no server is qued on every map.

    No worries man.

  • @solemn.9608 said:

    @Strider Pj.2193 said:
    And yes..., BG killed the mode. Got it.

    They never killed WvW, just T1. Which impacted WvW negatively because people started tanking in T2 just to avoid blackgate - a long time ago, and this still happens all the time. Nobody wants to fight a server that is active 24/7 and only fights under siege/tower buffs, and is basically unstoppable due to them receiving strong links for god knows what reason.

    So nobody wants to be in T1 because you literally CAN NOT win.
    Not many people want to be in T2 because IF YOU WIN, you will be punished by blackgate and then have to tank in T2 the next week once you realize what's good for you
    Not many want to be in t3/t4 because half their players couldn't tell their kitten from their head

    So I can see why some might say BG had something to do with the current state of WvW and why everyone is leaving ...

    No, they just happen to be good at defense, they respond well to call outs, and map chat is probably the LEAST toxic of any server I have been linked to, something I find shocking as when I was on BG before it became so strong, it was far more toxic.

    As for bandwagon, people forget that a number of times servers bought guilds, sometimes many to try and control T1 and kill BG, I remember seeing some ungodly stacked servers. Downside is that many if not most of the guilds that stacked them were all prime time, so they still never matched off hours of BG. Those servers did win matchups though vs BG, but paid for guilds never stuck around long and moved to the next best thing or next pay roll, and those servers lost good tags and the servers dropped. This happened many times with all sorts of talk by community leaders on other forums about how they were going to destroy BG, because as much as people hate on BG, everyone still wanted to be the next BG.

    As for being active 24/7, that is a good thing for the server, not a bad thing, and most people want the same thing for their own server. As for "only fighting under siege/tower buffs", I have not seen any of the tags do this, and SMC etc etc often has far less siege in it than other servers I have been on. However, with that said, EVERY SERVER will fight with siege or buffs, I have never been on a single server that does not do this, not only that, but there is nothing wrong with it, as it is a siege mode game and using things to your advantage is just good tactics. It also doesn't bother me, because I am almost never in EBG and if I am I don't run with the zerg. But BG doesn't do this anymore than any other server does. Why people cry about this when talking about any server they are facing, not just BG, always amazes me. Don't like ACs? Go roaming and step out from that zerg cover and discover a world free of most siege.

    "When you power creep the game and make it so that spam gameplay is nearly as effective as deep knowledge and nuance, the quality of players will decrease." -Exedore

  • Liston.9708Liston.9708 Member ✭✭✭

    bg fa full sf very high, rest high or medium.. everyone did transfer LOL

  • Strider Pj.2193Strider Pj.2193 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Jayden Reese.9542 said:

    @Strider Pj.2193 said:

    @Jayden Reese.9542 said:

    @Strider Pj.2193 said:

    @Jayden Reese.9542 said:

    @Ayrilana.1396 said:

    @solemn.9608 said:

    @knite.1542 said:

    @Pagan Highlander.5948 said:
    Lets see, Option A, spend $20 to transfer and be stuck in mind numbing queues on BG all week, then following mindless map blobs on Bg or stuck on siege for hours and being bored senseless or option B: actually have fun and a challenge in WvW on any other server. Hmmm, I'll go with Option B

    lol. So many people making ridiculous claims that have no idea what they are talking about. Where are you getting the data on these mind numbing queues? Did someone else that doesn't know what they are talking about tell you that?

    Saying you don't think you'd have fun on BG is fair and reasonable, but pulling made up information out of the air is a bit silly. Last reset, we had a queue of 18 people on EBG and maybe 7 on Blue BL. Other 2 maps not queued. Are these the mind numbing queues you are referring to?

    I am on BG and I am regularly getting outnumbered pips. I have not sat in a queue in ages. Please enlighten me on where you are getting your information.

    edit: But please, by all means go with option B. You don't want to be on Blackgate and chances are we don't want you on BG.

    Lol I’ve been linked with BG and I’ve seen the queues, don’t lie dude.

    Most of the time there’s only a queue on one map which tends to be EB. A lot of the other maps you can get the outnumbered buff and quite often during prime time hours.

    Yeah but isn't that most servers. No one is out there with ques on 2 maps let alone 3 or 4 except on reset or the famous YB quad link fiasco. Zerg moves from bl to ebg then bl becomes outnumbered. Just because you got those extra 5 pips doesn't mean you don't have the bigger zerg running or better overall coverage.

    No one has said anything about coverage. It was addressing the meme that is BG is queued on all maps all the time lol.

    Read back through the quotes. Someone noted how they have gotten legendary armor with outnumbered pips from facing BG. I noted I have 2.5 sets of the same from outnumbered maps while ON BG.

    But yeah.. w/e Jayden. I know you won’t believe any of it anyway. It’s all good. Believe the hype.

    You are the one that should "reread some quotes" I wasn't even referring to BG. Many a time I've sat in EBG w outnumbered buff while our zerg routed some Bl. Just because you find one map outnumbered doesn't mean you have less total players at that time. It means you went to a bl that happens to be outnumbered and your zerg could be in ebg with 50 vs 30 vs 30. Which means if those 30 att anything on a bl you can defend and you still can get outnumbered pips somewhere else. Now not BG any server so saying I get outnumbered pips on or vs BG proves nothing. You chose extra pips or go where the action is a lot of the times. My point was also there are no servers not even BG that are queing every map but most servers got huge timezone coverage gaps and BG is just more evenly distributed. You aren't gonna win the meme war so stop defending it so intensely as the haters will hate with no regards to correct info.

    So... you didn’t read back through the quotes as to what I was referring to.

    No worries man.

    Yeah I did. Still don't see why my last word coverage was the only thing you got upset about as everything else supported BG isn't qued on every map but used no server is qued on every map.

    No worries man.

    Never disputed the ‘coverage’ argument. Happen to agree with you.....

    Which is why I am certain you didn’t read what I was actually responding to.

  • Chaba.5410Chaba.5410 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Liston.9708 said:
    bg fa full sf very high, rest high or medium.. everyone did transfer LOL

    Uh oh! More #openBG posts in our future.

  • Tiviana.2650Tiviana.2650 Member ✭✭✭

    kitten i missed it.

  • @Strider Pj.2193 said:

    @Jayden Reese.9542 said:

    @Strider Pj.2193 said:

    @Jayden Reese.9542 said:

    @Strider Pj.2193 said:

    @Jayden Reese.9542 said:

    @Ayrilana.1396 said:

    @solemn.9608 said:

    @knite.1542 said:

    @Pagan Highlander.5948 said:
    Lets see, Option A, spend $20 to transfer and be stuck in mind numbing queues on BG all week, then following mindless map blobs on Bg or stuck on siege for hours and being bored senseless or option B: actually have fun and a challenge in WvW on any other server. Hmmm, I'll go with Option B

    lol. So many people making ridiculous claims that have no idea what they are talking about. Where are you getting the data on these mind numbing queues? Did someone else that doesn't know what they are talking about tell you that?

    Saying you don't think you'd have fun on BG is fair and reasonable, but pulling made up information out of the air is a bit silly. Last reset, we had a queue of 18 people on EBG and maybe 7 on Blue BL. Other 2 maps not queued. Are these the mind numbing queues you are referring to?

    I am on BG and I am regularly getting outnumbered pips. I have not sat in a queue in ages. Please enlighten me on where you are getting your information.

    edit: But please, by all means go with option B. You don't want to be on Blackgate and chances are we don't want you on BG.

    Lol I’ve been linked with BG and I’ve seen the queues, don’t lie dude.

    Most of the time there’s only a queue on one map which tends to be EB. A lot of the other maps you can get the outnumbered buff and quite often during prime time hours.

    Yeah but isn't that most servers. No one is out there with ques on 2 maps let alone 3 or 4 except on reset or the famous YB quad link fiasco. Zerg moves from bl to ebg then bl becomes outnumbered. Just because you got those extra 5 pips doesn't mean you don't have the bigger zerg running or better overall coverage.

    No one has said anything about coverage. It was addressing the meme that is BG is queued on all maps all the time lol.

    Read back through the quotes. Someone noted how they have gotten legendary armor with outnumbered pips from facing BG. I noted I have 2.5 sets of the same from outnumbered maps while ON BG.

    But yeah.. w/e Jayden. I know you won’t believe any of it anyway. It’s all good. Believe the hype.

    You are the one that should "reread some quotes" I wasn't even referring to BG. Many a time I've sat in EBG w outnumbered buff while our zerg routed some Bl. Just because you find one map outnumbered doesn't mean you have less total players at that time. It means you went to a bl that happens to be outnumbered and your zerg could be in ebg with 50 vs 30 vs 30. Which means if those 30 att anything on a bl you can defend and you still can get outnumbered pips somewhere else. Now not BG any server so saying I get outnumbered pips on or vs BG proves nothing. You chose extra pips or go where the action is a lot of the times. My point was also there are no servers not even BG that are queing every map but most servers got huge timezone coverage gaps and BG is just more evenly distributed. You aren't gonna win the meme war so stop defending it so intensely as the haters will hate with no regards to correct info.

    So... you didn’t read back through the quotes as to what I was referring to.

    No worries man.

    Yeah I did. Still don't see why my last word coverage was the only thing you got upset about as everything else supported BG isn't qued on every map but used no server is qued on every map.

    No worries man.

    Never disputed the ‘coverage’ argument. Happen to agree with you.....

    Which is why I am certain you didn’t read what I was actually responding to.

    I read the 12 quotes it shows when u write something. I responded to Ariyl or w/e. Idk if you want me to reread the entire thread to try and figure out the obsure thing you want me too but no, well just end it here then.

  • Well its full now and Anet made a lot of money i believe from gems sales.
    Funny seeing a lot of "very high" servers just drop to "high" within 1 day space.
    So how are their queues now?

  • XenesisII.1540XenesisII.1540 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited August 13, 2019

    Wow....
    When BG opened yesterday...
    2 full servers
    6 very high servers
    9 high servers
    7 medium servers

    Now...
    2 full servers
    1 very high servers
    11 high servers
    10 medium servers

    Kaineng very high to medium, wonder where they went hmmmm

    P.S Awaiting the first post about not being able to get a friend/guild/alliance/girlfriend/boyfriend/mom/dad/second cousin uncle two family lines over, on BG in time.

    Another derailing post. ^^
    EBG North Keep: One of the village residents will now flee if their home is destroyed!
    || Stealth is a Terribad Mechanic || Class Offense Defense Movement Balance is So Terribad ||

  • SLOTH.5231SLOTH.5231 Member ✭✭

    Sounds like to me some servers need merging.

  • knite.1542knite.1542 Member ✭✭✭

    Looks like everyone decided to go to the superior server. Makes sense to me.

    Where did you get that from? I'm not making a claim either way. I don't make assumptions like this to push my ideas ... and neither should anyone else.

  • Heartpains.7312Heartpains.7312 Member ✭✭✭

    I will just "toss" my experience in regards of BG matches, it can't get more lame than it was (and probably still), I haven't faced Bg or be with them for long time, which i am very thankful for.

    If you are in BG, you will outnumber people (in before rambo comes and say they don't, they do), BG outnumbers other servers, I don't zerg, I like to play in small groups, so in my case if i am with them I have nothing to do, if i am against them well ... nothing to do as well, because they outnumber you and most of their things are t3, and most of them do hide.

    But thanks to them I have Aurora now, they tossed us once against them this year and it was so much fun that I decided that it was good time to pve.

    This is from a person who used to spend 99.9% of the time in WvW. (I still do) when I am playing.

  • @XenesisII.1540 said:

    @TinkTinkPOOF.9201 said:
    As for bandwagon, people forget that a number of times servers bought guilds, sometimes many to try and control T1 and kill BG, I remember seeing some ungodly stacked servers. Downside is that many if not most of the guilds that stacked them were all prime time, so they still never matched off hours of BG. Those servers did win matchups though vs BG, but paid for guilds never stuck around long and moved to the next best thing or next pay roll, and those servers lost good tags and the servers dropped. This happened many times with all sorts of talk by community leaders on other forums about how they were going to destroy BG, because as much as people hate on BG, everyone still wanted to be the next BG.

    BG paid for a lot of guilds back in the day too. Speaking of control ONS and TW both had alts guilds on the other two t1 servers to prop them up. Let's not pretend BG is innocent.

    As for being active 24/7, that is a good thing for the server, not a bad thing, and most people want the same thing for their own server. As for "only fighting under siege/tower buffs", I have not seen any of the tags do this, and SMC etc etc often has far less siege in it than other servers I have been on.

    Please just stop, just last week fought bg on mag and they were using siege like they were ex yb players, guys up on smc outer wall building multiple balistas to hit the group fighting below by the ne sentry while bg had a decent zerg running and multiple treb fire and mortars, it was sad. As soon as you got anywhere near smc the trebs would be firing with pretty good precision, like these guys had a ton of practice on them. Then when we had smc and fighting in the sw area you'd have guys building multiple open field balistas to fire on players.

    Just because you're roaming in no mans land and don't see it, doesn't mean it doesn't happen.

    Yes, some guilds on BG did the same thing....Thats my point. People LOVE to hate on BG, but everyone still wanted to be the next BG and control T1. No one so far has been able to and everyone is salty about it that now most people just hate on them because they have managed to have a more evenly distributed coverage.

    Was in the matchup and didn't see any of that, I was in EBG then because Mag almost only fights or defends EBG, they will let their BL fall to waste before leaving EBG (old long time Mag player here) so their BL was empty of most fights. I can also say the same thing when pushing your keep, I don't think I have seen so many ACs going at once. Again, people like to claim so and so server does soooooo much siege, while ignoring or not seeing how much their own server does use. Like I said, EVERY SERVER uses siege, and they should, it's there for a reason. And if siege use is your only complaint of BG, which can be applied to every server, well, not sure why the hate for BG. I see what happens, roaming means I am all over the map, I scout etc as well, and just because I said I 90% roam doesn't mean I am never with the zerg, or just happen to be in the same area, where I will go and pick off back liners from the other side, free bags are hard to say no to.

    Worth repeating as I am sure the bandwagon calling is coming again, but I am on Kaineng, not BG and was there before the link, I also have 6,000 gems sitting in my account not being used on anything and didn't transfer when BG was open. And I have fought against BG many fold more times than I have been linked with them and when I was on BG it was before they were T1.

    Maybe it's because I have server hopped so much and been on every NA server at some point, that I understand the servers are mostly the same, with the same amount of siege use etc. It's also specific people, and guilds that do it as well, most people on most servers (with very few exceptions today) don't even bother to use siege. And other than attacking, I almost never see tags drop siege anymore, back in the day as soon as a keep was capped the tag on most servers went around and dropped siege everywhere for people to build before moving on.

    But, to sum things up, people cry that BG is to big, and has queues all day long, then that is proven wrong. Then it's coverage (it is) that is demonized, which shouldn't be, it should be a goal for all servers. And then it devolves into "OMG BG uses ACssssssssss!!!11!11!", let me just say if your server doesn't understand basic siege clearing, and just bashes it's head on the gate while being rained on, it has bigger problems.

    "When you power creep the game and make it so that spam gameplay is nearly as effective as deep knowledge and nuance, the quality of players will decrease." -Exedore

  • Strider Pj.2193Strider Pj.2193 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @XenesisII.1540 said:
    Wow....
    When BG opened yesterday...
    2 full servers
    6 very high servers
    9 high servers
    7 medium servers

    Now...
    2 full servers
    1 very high servers
    11 high servers
    10 medium servers

    Kaineng very high to medium, wonder where they went hmmmm

    P.S Awaiting the first post about not being able to get a friend/guild/alliance/girlfriend/boyfriend/mom/dad/second cousin uncle two family lines over, on BG in time.

    Well, there was that vR guild that wanted to come....

  • anonymous.7812anonymous.7812 Member ✭✭✭

    @Sleepwalker.1398 said:
    Well its full now and Anet made a lot of money i believe from gems sales.
    Funny seeing a lot of "very high" servers just drop to "high" within 1 day space.
    So how are their queues now?

    I'm sure the less than $10k will keep Arenanet afloat for years to come!

  • Strider Pj.2193Strider Pj.2193 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @TinkTinkPOOF.9201 said:

    Was in the matchup and didn't see any of that, I was in EBG then because Mag almost only fights or defends EBG, they will let their BL fall to waste before leaving EBG (old long time Mag player here) so their BL was empty of most fights. I can also say the same thing when pushing your keep, I don't think I have seen so many ACs going at once. Again, people like to claim so and so server does soooooo much siege, while ignoring or not seeing how much their own server does use. Like I said, EVERY SERVER uses siege, and they should, it's there for a reason. And if siege use is your only complaint of BG, which can be applied to every server, well, not sure why the hate for BG.. I see what happens, roaming means I am all over the map, I scout etc as well, and just because I said I 90% roam doesn't mean I am never with the zerg, or just happen to be in the same area, where I will go and pick off back liners from the other side, free bags are hard to say no to.

    Because as much as everyone professes they don’t care about winning, they actually care and hate not being able to compete.

    Should they? No. There is nothing for winning. But hopefully alliances kick in, and we’ll find a new ‘top alliance’ to hate on because they figure out how to game the system so everyone else is mad.

    Which, BTW is why we shouldn’t incentivize winning any more.

  • DeadlySynz.3471DeadlySynz.3471 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Play-time wise; BG is somewhat equal to less than equal to other servers in T1. Players wise, they did (not sure about now), but they did have considerably less.

    Here is the thing; you log on, and you see the same group of players morning, evening, and night. The players on BG, are the same group continually seen most of the day (even some overnight). It's the same group that's both part of a blob, but also the same group chronically outnumbered during other parts of the day.

    When you look across at the other server fixed in T1, and the servers that keep coming up, and you count the number of guilds and players during their raid times, it's absolutely insane just how many players the other servers have. So the question is, where do they disappear to after their raid times? Where do they disappear to the rest of the match-up? I've seen many people mention servers can only compete with BG during reset or the weekend.... why is that? Where do all these players disappear to?

    For example: Server A has 100 players, Server B has 500 players, and server C has 250 players. Server A likes to play all throughout the week. Server B only really like to play on weekends and very sporadically throughout the week. Server C, mainly plays weekends with a raid or 2 during the week. The illusion? Server A has more players because they're always on. In reality though, both Server B and C have more, with server B drastically outnumbering the others.

    Sound familiar? This isn't a over-stacking issue on BG's side. This is player playtime issue on the other servers side. If you don't want BG constantly winning, try logging on and participating at other times outside the weekend or the occasional drop in during the week.

  • Strider Pj.2193Strider Pj.2193 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @DeadlySynz.3471 said:
    Play-time wise; BG is somewhat equal to less than equal to other servers in T1. Players wise, they did (not sure about now), but they did have considerably less.

    Here is the thing; you log on, and you see the same group of players morning, evening, and night. The players on BG, are the same group continually seen most of the day (even some overnight). It's the same group that's both part of a blob, but also the same group chronically outnumbered during other parts of the day.

    When you look across at the other server fixed in T1, and the servers that keep coming up, and you count the number of guilds and players during their raid times, it's absolutely insane just how many players the other servers have. So the question is, where do they disappear to after their raid times? Where do they disappear to the rest of the match-up? I've seen many people mention servers can only compete with BG during reset or the weekend.... why is that? Where do all these players disappear to?

    For example: Server A has 100 players, Server B has 500 players, and server C has 250 players. Server A likes to play all throughout the week. Server B only really like to play on weekends and very sporadically throughout the week. Server C, mainly plays weekends with a raid or 2 during the week. The illusion? Server A has more players because they're always on. In reality though, both Server B and C have more, with server B drastically outnumbering the others.

    Sound familiar? This isn't a over-stacking issue on BG's side. This is player playtime issue on the other servers side. If you don't want BG constantly winning, try logging on and participating at other times outside the weekend or the occasional drop in during the week.

    Add to that BG gets very few truly new players. Most of their active population are experienced with WvW. When a new to the game player buys the game, they can’t select BG. Pretty much haven’t been able to in 4 years. That gives a level of consistency and familiarity that other servers just don’t have.

  • Swagger.1459Swagger.1459 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @XenesisII.1540 said:
    Wow....
    When BG opened yesterday...
    2 full servers
    6 very high servers
    9 high servers
    7 medium servers

    Now...
    2 full servers
    1 very high servers
    11 high servers
    10 medium servers

    Kaineng very high to medium, wonder where they went hmmmm

    P.S Awaiting the first post about not being able to get a friend/guild/alliance/girlfriend/boyfriend/mom/dad/second cousin uncle two family lines over, on BG in time.

    Did u go 2 BG 2?

  • Grim West.3194Grim West.3194 Member ✭✭✭
    edited August 13, 2019

    Lol, the BG players justifying their cheating and gaming of the system is hilarious.

    Yes BG players, YOU are the problem. And YOU are the reason everyone is leaving left WvW.

    BG players, short sighted and oblivious to the end.

  • Grim West.3194Grim West.3194 Member ✭✭✭
    edited August 13, 2019

    @TinkTinkPOOF.9201 said:

    @XenesisII.1540 said:

    @TinkTinkPOOF.9201 said:
    As for bandwagon, people forget that a number of times servers bought guilds, sometimes many to try and control T1 and kill BG, I remember seeing some ungodly stacked servers. Downside is that many if not most of the guilds that stacked them were all prime time, so they still never matched off hours of BG. Those servers did win matchups though vs BG, but paid for guilds never stuck around long and moved to the next best thing or next pay roll, and those servers lost good tags and the servers dropped. This happened many times with all sorts of talk by community leaders on other forums about how they were going to destroy BG, because as much as people hate on BG, everyone still wanted to be the next BG.

    BG paid for a lot of guilds back in the day too. Speaking of control ONS and TW both had alts guilds on the other two t1 servers to prop them up. Let's not pretend BG is innocent.

    As for being active 24/7, that is a good thing for the server, not a bad thing, and most people want the same thing for their own server. As for "only fighting under siege/tower buffs", I have not seen any of the tags do this, and SMC etc etc often has far less siege in it than other servers I have been on.

    Please just stop, just last week fought bg on mag and they were using siege like they were ex yb players, guys up on smc outer wall building multiple balistas to hit the group fighting below by the ne sentry while bg had a decent zerg running and multiple treb fire and mortars, it was sad. As soon as you got anywhere near smc the trebs would be firing with pretty good precision, like these guys had a ton of practice on them. Then when we had smc and fighting in the sw area you'd have guys building multiple open field balistas to fire on players.

    Just because you're roaming in no mans land and don't see it, doesn't mean it doesn't happen.

    Yes, some guilds on BG did the same thing....Thats my point. People LOVE to hate on BG, but everyone still wanted to be the next BG and control T1. No one so far has been able to and everyone is salty about it that now most people just hate on them because they have managed to have a more evenly distributed coverage.

    Was in the matchup and didn't see any of that, I was in EBG then because Mag almost only fights or defends EBG, they will let their BL fall to waste before leaving EBG (old long time Mag player here) so their BL was empty of most fights. I can also say the same thing when pushing your keep, I don't think I have seen so many ACs going at once. Again, people like to claim so and so server does soooooo much siege, while ignoring or not seeing how much their own server does use. Like I said, EVERY SERVER uses siege, and they should, it's there for a reason. And if siege use is your only complaint of BG, which can be applied to every server, well, not sure why the hate for BG. I see what happens, roaming means I am all over the map, I scout etc as well, and just because I said I 90% roam doesn't mean I am never with the zerg, or just happen to be in the same area, where I will go and pick off back liners from the other side, free bags are hard to say no to.

    Worth repeating as I am sure the bandwagon calling is coming again, but I am on Kaineng, not BG and was there before the link, I also have 6,000 gems sitting in my account not being used on anything and didn't transfer when BG was open. And I have fought against BG many fold more times than I have been linked with them and when I was on BG it was before they were T1.

    Maybe it's because I have server hopped so much and been on every NA server at some point, that I understand the servers are mostly the same, with the same amount of siege use etc. It's also specific people, and guilds that do it as well, most people on most servers (with very few exceptions today) don't even bother to use siege. And other than attacking, I almost never see tags drop siege anymore, back in the day as soon as a keep was capped the tag on most servers went around and dropped siege everywhere for people to build before moving on.

    But, to sum things up, people cry that BG is to big, and has queues all day long, then that is proven wrong. Then it's coverage (it is) that is demonized, which shouldn't be, it should be a goal for all servers. And then it devolves into "OMG BG uses ACssssssssss!!!11!11!", let me just say if your server doesn't understand basic siege clearing, and just bashes it's head on the gate while being rained on, it has bigger problems.

    Hah, BG wins matches because they have more players who play at all hours. That is all.

    BG player's only skills are at gaming the system, buying guilds, and cheating. That is all.

    Not something to be proud of for sure. Most people have zero respect for the players on BandwagonGate and for good reason.

  • XenesisII.1540XenesisII.1540 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @TinkTinkPOOF.9201 said:
    Was in the matchup and didn't see any of that, I was in EBG then because Mag almost only fights or defends EBG, they will let their BL fall to waste before leaving EBG (old long time Mag player here) so their BL was empty of most fights. I can also say the same thing when pushing your keep, I don't think I have seen so many ACs going at once.

    Well siege pile ups also tend to happen when your keep gets pushed often by the other two servers. But yes there was one person taking care of building and refreshing siege, there was even a long argument about it in map chat, dunno what about, but I even joke commented there wasn't enough siege I'd like to place an order for more acs. Considering mag has less population than bg and fc most times in the matchup it's going to happen. I can understand servers that are outnumbered a lot using siege a lot, because it's the couple people who still hold hope they can hold off a zerg with an ac.

    Again, people like to claim so and so server does soooooo much siege, while ignoring or not seeing how much their own server does use. Like I said, EVERY SERVER uses siege, and they should, it's there for a reason. And if siege use is your only complaint of BG, which can be applied to every server, well, not sure why the hate for BG. I see what happens, roaming means I am all over the map, I scout etc as well, and just because I said I 90% roam doesn't mean I am never with the zerg, or just happen to be in the same area, where I will go and pick off back liners from the other side, free bags are hard to say no to.

    Yes obviously every server sieges, I'm not saying Mag doesn't use siege lmao, what I'm saying it's sad the biggest server still has to use more siege than those smaller and weaker than them. Does that 3rd floor trebber really need to target every little roamer that runs by smc? no they don't, did those guys on the outer wall really need to build more balistas on the wall instead of joining their zerg below in a fight? no they didn't, it was on the front lip of the wall so easy clears, but why? did those guys in the open field really need to drop treb balista acs in the open field to fight around even numbers? no they didn't. It's sad that players on a server that runs the most comfortable numbers, still think they need to resort to using siege in those ways.

    Use siege to break in, use it to defend active attacks, use it to counter siege, but to use it on smaller numbers in open field is ridiculous, and it just chases players away, there's better things to do than fighting in siege all day. They already have more numbers to overwhelm groups, they have more coverage, they have more scouts and defenders, they don't need to add so much siege to make fighting so toxic that people quit the matchup before it even begins, they'd rather not bother with you. It's obvious there's players have been in the bg bubble for years and don't really see the changes that have happened how their server has affected wvw.

    Worth repeating as I am sure the bandwagon calling is coming again, but I am on Kaineng, not BG and was there before the link, I also have 6,000 gems sitting in my account not being used on anything and didn't transfer when BG was open. And I have fought against BG many fold more times than I have been linked with them and when I was on BG it was before they were T1.

    Good for you, but your server just went from very high to medium overnight, pretty sure a bandwagon happened. I know of people who were constantly bandwagoning on to the BG link, this was christmas come early for them.

    Maybe it's because I have server hopped so much and been on every NA server at some point, that I understand the servers are mostly the same, with the same amount of siege use etc. It's also specific people, and guilds that do it as well, most people on most servers (with very few exceptions today) don't even bother to use siege. And other than attacking, I almost never see tags drop siege anymore, back in the day as soon as a keep was capped the tag on most servers went around and dropped siege everywhere for people to build before moving on.

    But, to sum things up, people cry that BG is to big, and has queues all day long, then that is proven wrong. Then it's coverage (it is) that is demonized, which shouldn't be, it should be a goal for all servers. And then it devolves into "OMG BG uses ACssssssssss!!!11!11!", let me just say if your server doesn't understand basic siege clearing, and just bashes it's head on the gate while being rained on, it has bigger problems.

    There are definitely servers that use more siege than others, BG SoS YB are a few, almost every server still has that one or two people that feel the need to fully siege out a place, they don't mind sitting on 3rd floor treb all day just trebbing down walls. But yeah basic siege clearing, yeah sure, a min later another one comes back up, rather just do something else. Hell one from CD even got mad at my friend for trying a while to down their treb and cannon, they had to whisper salt about it, and how we were about to lose QL... 2 mins later YB took smc from them, pretty sure they got suspended for all that salt.

    I've been linked with BG this year, I've seen how they operate and how they win matches, it isn't all blobs, and it isn't all queues, although they could still run about 2 queues in prime, it's still double than everyone else. The strategy they do is take 1 keep from each side and hold it for almost the entire match, red usually doesn't care to be in t1 for multiple servers, blue is the server with the second highest coverage, easy wins against servers that don't care anymore, but hey whatever floats peoples boats.

    @Swagger.1459 said:
    Did u go 2 BG 2?

    No, and I wouldn't go on there again. I haven't cared about winning matches for years, I want to log on and get in some good fights and I don't really care where, I just don't want to be standing around doing nothing for long, or being blobbed, or blobbing down others.

    Another derailing post. ^^
    EBG North Keep: One of the village residents will now flee if their home is destroyed!
    || Stealth is a Terribad Mechanic || Class Offense Defense Movement Balance is So Terribad ||

  • Vova.2640Vova.2640 Member ✭✭✭

    @XenesisII.1540 said:
    Wow....
    When BG opened yesterday...
    2 full servers
    6 very high servers
    9 high servers
    7 medium servers

    Now...
    2 full servers
    1 very high servers
    11 high servers
    10 medium servers

    Kaineng very high to medium, wonder where they went hmmmm

    P.S Awaiting the first post about not being able to get a friend/guild/alliance/girlfriend/boyfriend/mom/dad/second cousin uncle two family lines over, on BG in time.

    This right here says everything that needs to be said. Ya done goofed anet. RIP NA wvw.

  • anonymous.7812anonymous.7812 Member ✭✭✭

    @Grim West.3194 said:

    @TinkTinkPOOF.9201 said:

    @XenesisII.1540 said:

    @TinkTinkPOOF.9201 said:
    As for bandwagon, people forget that a number of times servers bought guilds, sometimes many to try and control T1 and kill BG, I remember seeing some ungodly stacked servers. Downside is that many if not most of the guilds that stacked them were all prime time, so they still never matched off hours of BG. Those servers did win matchups though vs BG, but paid for guilds never stuck around long and moved to the next best thing or next pay roll, and those servers lost good tags and the servers dropped. This happened many times with all sorts of talk by community leaders on other forums about how they were going to destroy BG, because as much as people hate on BG, everyone still wanted to be the next BG.

    BG paid for a lot of guilds back in the day too. Speaking of control ONS and TW both had alts guilds on the other two t1 servers to prop them up. Let's not pretend BG is innocent.

    As for being active 24/7, that is a good thing for the server, not a bad thing, and most people want the same thing for their own server. As for "only fighting under siege/tower buffs", I have not seen any of the tags do this, and SMC etc etc often has far less siege in it than other servers I have been on.

    Please just stop, just last week fought bg on mag and they were using siege like they were ex yb players, guys up on smc outer wall building multiple balistas to hit the group fighting below by the ne sentry while bg had a decent zerg running and multiple treb fire and mortars, it was sad. As soon as you got anywhere near smc the trebs would be firing with pretty good precision, like these guys had a ton of practice on them. Then when we had smc and fighting in the sw area you'd have guys building multiple open field balistas to fire on players.

    Just because you're roaming in no mans land and don't see it, doesn't mean it doesn't happen.

    Yes, some guilds on BG did the same thing....Thats my point. People LOVE to hate on BG, but everyone still wanted to be the next BG and control T1. No one so far has been able to and everyone is salty about it that now most people just hate on them because they have managed to have a more evenly distributed coverage.

    Was in the matchup and didn't see any of that, I was in EBG then because Mag almost only fights or defends EBG, they will let their BL fall to waste before leaving EBG (old long time Mag player here) so their BL was empty of most fights. I can also say the same thing when pushing your keep, I don't think I have seen so many ACs going at once. Again, people like to claim so and so server does soooooo much siege, while ignoring or not seeing how much their own server does use. Like I said, EVERY SERVER uses siege, and they should, it's there for a reason. And if siege use is your only complaint of BG, which can be applied to every server, well, not sure why the hate for BG. I see what happens, roaming means I am all over the map, I scout etc as well, and just because I said I 90% roam doesn't mean I am never with the zerg, or just happen to be in the same area, where I will go and pick off back liners from the other side, free bags are hard to say no to.

    Worth repeating as I am sure the bandwagon calling is coming again, but I am on Kaineng, not BG and was there before the link, I also have 6,000 gems sitting in my account not being used on anything and didn't transfer when BG was open. And I have fought against BG many fold more times than I have been linked with them and when I was on BG it was before they were T1.

    Maybe it's because I have server hopped so much and been on every NA server at some point, that I understand the servers are mostly the same, with the same amount of siege use etc. It's also specific people, and guilds that do it as well, most people on most servers (with very few exceptions today) don't even bother to use siege. And other than attacking, I almost never see tags drop siege anymore, back in the day as soon as a keep was capped the tag on most servers went around and dropped siege everywhere for people to build before moving on.

    But, to sum things up, people cry that BG is to big, and has queues all day long, then that is proven wrong. Then it's coverage (it is) that is demonized, which shouldn't be, it should be a goal for all servers. And then it devolves into "OMG BG uses ACssssssssss!!!11!11!", let me just say if your server doesn't understand basic siege clearing, and just bashes it's head on the gate while being rained on, it has bigger problems.

    Hah, BG wins matches because they have more players who play at all hours. That is all.

    BG player's only skills are at gaming the system, buying guilds, and cheating. That is all.

    Not something to be proud of for sure. Most people have zero respect for the players on BandwagonGate and for good reason.

    You're wrong on all counts. That is all.

    But you know what? If it makes you feel better to blame everything on the big bad BG, you go girl

  • Is it because people wanted to play most of the time without running around barren borders ,time zones matter for a lot of people ,as for these so called "fight'" guilds when the going gets tough they leave a server crippling it 1 spamm and straight line running isnt fighting ,call it what it is blobbing . Call me a fairweather fine I'm happy with that to be on a server that suits my time zone BG all the way

  • gebrechen.5643gebrechen.5643 Member ✭✭✭

    The last time BG was a good server was the time when VotF and HB played there. After that the correct word for the reason they were up there is "overstacked".

    Disciples of the monkey god [Apes]

  • Brainstorming session
    ANet: "How could we make money this time?"
    Someone at session: "Open BG"
    ANet: "Great idea!"

  • Jayden Reese.9542Jayden Reese.9542 Member ✭✭✭
    edited August 14, 2019

    @DKRathalos.9625 said:
    Brainstorming session
    ANet: "How could we make money this time?"
    Someone at session: "Open BG"
    ANet: "Great idea!"

    It's good and bad. They were getting 500 gems for whoever transferred to the link every 2 months which could be 20 times for 10k gems or this one time 1800 gem move so idk. It seems they are trying to force more transfers as they messed w EU and got a ton there and now the BG move. Now if they announce alliances soon then anet just played everyone to milk gems before that.

  • Ultramex.1506Ultramex.1506 Member ✭✭✭

    @XenesisII.1540 said:
    Wow....
    When BG opened yesterday...
    2 full servers
    6 very high servers
    9 high servers
    7 medium servers

    Now...
    2 full servers
    1 very high servers
    11 high servers
    10 medium servers

    Kaineng very high to medium, wonder where they went hmmmm

    P.S Awaiting the first post about not being able to get a friend/guild/alliance/girlfriend/boyfriend/mom/dad/second cousin uncle two family lines over, on BG in time.

    I believe that Filthy Frank "cancer growing on my back" clip fit here.

  • Stand The Wall.6987Stand The Wall.6987 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited August 14, 2019

    I like how bg threads are allowed to exist for some time, but any other server thread is shut down immediately.

    nice bias anet.
    (quote if you agree)

    you don't know till you know, ya know.

  • Heartpains.7312Heartpains.7312 Member ✭✭✭

    @Stand The Wall.6987 said:
    I like how bg threads are allowed to exist for some time, but any other server thread is shut down immediately.

    nice bias anet.
    (quote if you agree)

    I honestly had the same thought .... xD

  • Strider Pj.2193Strider Pj.2193 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Stand The Wall.6987 said:
    I like how bg threads are allowed to exist for some time, but any other server thread is shut down immediately.

    nice bias anet.
    (quote if you agree)

    I would imagine it’s only because it hasn’t been reported

  • Stand The Wall.6987Stand The Wall.6987 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Strider Pj.2193 said:

    @Stand The Wall.6987 said:
    I like how bg threads are allowed to exist for some time, but any other server thread is shut down immediately.

    nice bias anet.
    (quote if you agree)

    I would imagine it’s only because it hasn’t been reported

    lol, the forum mods are as active as ever. there is no way they don't know about this thread.

    you don't know till you know, ya know.

  • Strider Pj.2193Strider Pj.2193 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Stand The Wall.6987 said:

    @Strider Pj.2193 said:

    @Stand The Wall.6987 said:
    I like how bg threads are allowed to exist for some time, but any other server thread is shut down immediately.

    nice bias anet.
    (quote if you agree)

    I would imagine it’s only because it hasn’t been reported

    lol, the forum mods are as active as ever. there is no way they don't know about this thread.

    Without commenting much as I don’t want to appear critical of their process, it has seemed they only respond to reports....

  • Stand The Wall.6987Stand The Wall.6987 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Strider Pj.2193 said:
    Without commenting much as I don’t want to appear critical of their process, it has seemed they only respond to reports....

    huh. that would be interesting. I've said some very mild things and gotten infracted for it, so reports make more sense. it would be nice to know where this new line of unacceptable behavior is since it has definitely moved in the past few months.

    you don't know till you know, ya know.

  • @Sovereign.1093 said:

    unfortunately people will game the system to fit their needs. :/ it takes a strong will to push up a tier. and numbers

    Start of last link my server was in T4 and we moved up to T1 only because our server wasn't trying hard enough to NOT move up tiers, as the servers we were facing apparently were doing. We didn't have a good time in any of the tiers and now are in the constant state of bouncing between t1 and t2 repeatedly until the next links, how exciting :(

  • XenesisII.1540XenesisII.1540 Member ✭✭✭✭

    I would say something, but I can't, but they're active, and no I don't think it's just from stuff sent in, if it is there's some petty people in here. shrug

    To keep it "on topic", so how's t1 doing with the new recruits?

    Another derailing post. ^^
    EBG North Keep: One of the village residents will now flee if their home is destroyed!
    || Stealth is a Terribad Mechanic || Class Offense Defense Movement Balance is So Terribad ||

  • Strider Pj.2193Strider Pj.2193 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @XenesisII.1540 said:
    I would say something, but I can't, but they're active, and no I don't think it's just from stuff sent in, if it is there's some petty people in here. shrug

    Some people are Petty

    To keep it "on topic", so how's t1 doing with the new recruits?

    Was interesting last night. Some small groups on the servers in T1 who aren’t the big evil that were fairly active and were fairly aggressive.

    But that is just one night..

    Also, the server which shall not be named didn’t have queues at least for the beginning of prime time although I am not sure what happened after 9:00 est. prior to, was able to get Outnumbered pips so...

    Your post earlier about how the current population status as a whole looked was quite eye opening. If that few servers are full or very full (3 of these total) that says even more about population in NA.

  • XenesisII.1540XenesisII.1540 Member ✭✭✭✭

    What was more eye opening to me was the amount of change in just a span of a day. I expected Kain to drop some, but I wasn't expecting that many other servers to be affected. Well in any case we also have to keep in mind it's summer and usually numbers are a bit lower doing that time, I think, from all the vacations and stuff. But there's other signs like reset numbers being lower than usual even for summer time.

    Another derailing post. ^^
    EBG North Keep: One of the village residents will now flee if their home is destroyed!
    || Stealth is a Terribad Mechanic || Class Offense Defense Movement Balance is So Terribad ||

  • Strider Pj.2193Strider Pj.2193 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Agreed. All of the memes aside, I hope it’s just summer. Numbers are down...

  • Grim West.3194Grim West.3194 Member ✭✭✭
    edited August 14, 2019

    @Strider Pj.2193 said:
    Agreed. All of the memes aside, I hope it’s just summer. Numbers are down...

    Heheheh. Everyone moved to BG. Have fun playing with yourselves in your PvD world.

  • Strider Pj.2193Strider Pj.2193 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Grim West.3194 said:

    @Strider Pj.2193 said:
    Agreed. All of the memes aside, I hope it’s just summer. Numbers are down...

    Heheheh. Everyone moved to BG. Have fun playing with yourselves in your PvD world.

    Again young one - reading comprehension skills are your friend.

  • Grim West.3194Grim West.3194 Member ✭✭✭

    @Strider Pj.2193 said:

    @Grim West.3194 said:

    @Strider Pj.2193 said:
    Agreed. All of the memes aside, I hope it’s just summer. Numbers are down...

    Heheheh. Everyone moved to BG. Have fun playing with yourselves in your PvD world.

    Again young one - reading comprehension skills are your friend.

    Lol. Personal insults? Nice.

    Nothing wrong with my reading comprehension. I'm just telling you the real reasons why everyone left NA WvW. You just don't want to admit the truth.

  • Kovu.7560Kovu.7560 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @XenesisII.1540 said:
    Wow....
    When BG opened yesterday...
    2 full servers
    6 very high servers
    9 high servers
    7 medium servers

    Now...
    2 full servers
    1 very high servers
    11 high servers
    10 medium servers

    Kaineng very high to medium, wonder where they went hmmmm

    P.S Awaiting the first post about not being able to get a friend/guild/alliance/girlfriend/boyfriend/mom/dad/second cousin uncle two family lines over, on BG in time.

    That's... actually pretty sad -- and literally the opposite of population balance. What were they thinking.

    ~ Kovu

    Ranger main before it was viable.
    Fort Aspenwood.

  • At least Kaineng managed to avoid becoming a host (which they were on track for), having most of their players bandwagon off post relink, and spending most of two months with severely depleted numbers.

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