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what's the point of 3 week reset period

Lighter.5631Lighter.5631 Member ✭✭✭

it makes no sense, any community would be killed with 3 week reset period lol, while other pvp games has like 1,2 days reset period for ranked.
really smart anet.

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  • Crab Fear.1624Crab Fear.1624 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Not really a reason, except maybe a way to slow us down from progressing our armor and weapons.

    I mean, balance patches are applied half way into the season.

    Soon™ ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

  • I've always viewed it as a nice break from pressure to get pips in. An opportunity to spend that extra hour or so each day progressing toward other legendary equipment.

  • bravan.3876bravan.3876 Member ✭✭✭✭

    You need time for a therapy and 3 weeks is pretty short for that.
    On a serious node it was mostly only 2 weeks break not 3 and i dont think some chill time isnt too bad

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  • shippage.1983shippage.1983 Member ✭✭✭
    edited August 15, 2019

    Yeah, I wonder that too. Anet is just bleeding whatever small playerbase is left dry. I don't play other gamemodes on those 3 weeks reset, I just don't play the game at all. Unranked is a waste of time compared to ranked, and the rest of the game is pretty boring.

    Just delete mirage, add 2v2 queues, make it a 3 day reset instead, and pvp will be saved.

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  • praqtos.9035praqtos.9035 Member ✭✭✭✭

    They are just seeking for an excuse to delay everything,even ranked...

  • Tiviana.2650Tiviana.2650 Member ✭✭✭

    I have a theory! What if this delay is because the 30th announcement is going to be that they did something for pvp, maybe a new queue or somthing idk. But what if.

  • Yannir.4132Yannir.4132 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Lighter.5631 said:
    it makes no sense, any community would be killed with 3 week reset period lol, while other pvp games has like 1,2 days reset period for ranked.
    really smart anet.

    GW2 is not a PvP game though. That's the flaw in your logic.

  • sephiroth.4217sephiroth.4217 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited August 15, 2019

    To play other games! Lol

    No but for real, could be a gaming law or something.

    Quick google search gave me this:
    Gaming law is the set of rules and regulations that apply to the gaming industry. Gaming law is not a branch of law in the traditional sense but rather is a collection of several areas of law that include criminal law, regulatory law, constitutional law, administrative law, company law, contract law, and in some jurisdictions, competition law.

    I wish it was a little more to the point because in my country, "gaming" also means poker machines.

  • phokus.8934phokus.8934 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @sephiroth.4217 said:
    To play other games! Lol

    No but for real, could be a gaming law or something.

    Quick google search gave me this:
    Gaming law is the set of rules and regulations that apply to the gaming industry. Gaming law is not a branch of law in the traditional sense but rather is a collection of several areas of law that include criminal law, regulatory law, constitutional law, administrative law, company law, contract law, and in some jurisdictions, competition law.

    I wish it was a little more to the point because in my country, "gaming" also means poker machines.

    What the hell are you on?

    This is nothing more than ANet controlling their game and how people play it.

  • Taygus.4571Taygus.4571 Member ✭✭✭✭

    I like the break. Gives me time for pve things, without feeling like I'm missing out on my pips.

  • sephiroth.4217sephiroth.4217 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited August 16, 2019

    @phokus.8934 said:

    @sephiroth.4217 said:
    To play other games! Lol

    No but for real, could be a gaming law or something.

    Quick google search gave me this:
    Gaming law is the set of rules and regulations that apply to the gaming industry. Gaming law is not a branch of law in the traditional sense but rather is a collection of several areas of law that include criminal law, regulatory law, constitutional law, administrative law, company law, contract law, and in some jurisdictions, competition law.

    I wish it was a little more to the point because in my country, "gaming" also means poker machines.

    What the hell are you on?

    This is nothing more than ANet controlling their game and how people play it.

    Do you know the laws of game developers do you? I did a bit more research myself and turns out theres quite a bit directed at game developers.
    .... I actually spent a good half hour using Google on the matter, I'm sure anyone could actually.

  • It's just a 3 week break from decaying so you can enjoy the ONLY TRUE GAME MODE which is PVE (not raids) Omegalul

    That's my alt account btw

  • lare.5129lare.5129 Member ✭✭✭

    3-4 weeks is ok. Have time to make some pve achievements ant etc.

  • Till.6473Till.6473 Member ✭✭

    When start new season ?

  • @Yannir.4132 said:

    @Lighter.5631 said:
    it makes no sense, any community would be killed with 3 week reset period lol, while other pvp games has like 1,2 days reset period for ranked.
    really smart anet.

    GW2 is not a PvP game though. That's the flaw in your logic.

    It was suppose to be... but you're right, they abandoned it long ago and now its just a PvE game where you can play PvP on the side.

  • Jwake.7013Jwake.7013 Member ✭✭✭

    @Impact.6213 said:
    How long have you guys been in this discussion? Two maybe three years? Nothing has changed in PvP.

    I mean a fair amount has changed, whether you agree with what has is up to you.

    As far as the break goes, I quiet like a couple week break in between seasons. Four weeks always seemed too long when it first started but 2 seems like a nice sweet spot for it.

    I think it was talked about with some pvp events that might happen (no details given) when they announced the things like the world boss event weeks and such coming in. Will be interesting to see what those are. Could be good to have them between seasons for the people who want to keep playing pvp through the rank breaks.

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  • phokus.8934phokus.8934 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @sephiroth.4217 said:

    @phokus.8934 said:

    @sephiroth.4217 said:
    To play other games! Lol

    No but for real, could be a gaming law or something.

    Quick google search gave me this:
    Gaming law is the set of rules and regulations that apply to the gaming industry. Gaming law is not a branch of law in the traditional sense but rather is a collection of several areas of law that include criminal law, regulatory law, constitutional law, administrative law, company law, contract law, and in some jurisdictions, competition law.

    I wish it was a little more to the point because in my country, "gaming" also means poker machines.

    What the hell are you on?

    This is nothing more than ANet controlling their game and how people play it.

    Do you know the laws of game developers do you? I did a bit more research myself and turns out theres quite a bit directed at game developers.
    .... I actually spent a good half hour using Google on the matter, I'm sure anyone could actually.

    When it comes to software development I do. I know quite a bit because I deal with it on a daily basis - from contracting and licensing, product management, software development, etc. - 12 years doing this I've been through pretty much most of it.

    What you're stating above has nothing to do with software development but rather gambling.

    Regardless of any of this, Ben's response is clear as to why they do these breaks.

  • TheDevice.2751TheDevice.2751 Member ✭✭✭

    As you can see.. ANET has 3 long weeks plus some of last season to come up with a solution for holo. Lets see if these three weeks actually matter....

  • otto.5684otto.5684 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Ben Phongluangtham.1065 said:
    We've always had a break in-between seasons. The purpose was always to both give people a break and time to reset. Additionally, when the break used to be about 4 weeks, we'd try to use that time for balance updates. In the past couple years or so, we reduced the break to more or less 2 weeks. We sometimes delay an extra week, if there is good reason to do so. (Holidays, too close to some other event/balance release, etc.)

    We do have some talk on doing something with the off-season time, but aren't really ready to talk about that in detail yet.

    Rarely are balance changes made before the season start. All changes so far have been done mid season. I dunno why.

    Unless this time is used for resolving issues with match making/PvP behind the scenes systems, it does not have a reason to exist.

  • Lighter.5631Lighter.5631 Member ✭✭✭

    @Ben Phongluangtham.1065 said:
    The purpose was always to both give people a break and time to reset.

    give people a reset? a reset of what...me don't really understand...and what kind of reset needs 3 weeks, we are not working, we do not need a reset of 3 weeks..
    i mean i would probably be playing something else by then..

    balance updates was explainable, at least we have something to do when off season, but now, it's nothing, really. completely nothing

  • sephiroth.4217sephiroth.4217 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited 12:02AM

    @phokus.8934 said:

    @sephiroth.4217 said:

    @phokus.8934 said:

    @sephiroth.4217 said:
    To play other games! Lol

    No but for real, could be a gaming law or something.

    Quick google search gave me this:
    Gaming law is the set of rules and regulations that apply to the gaming industry. Gaming law is not a branch of law in the traditional sense but rather is a collection of several areas of law that include criminal law, regulatory law, constitutional law, administrative law, company law, contract law, and in some jurisdictions, competition law.

    I wish it was a little more to the point because in my country, "gaming" also means poker machines.

    What the hell are you on?

    This is nothing more than ANet controlling their game and how people play it.

    Do you know the laws of game developers do you? I did a bit more research myself and turns out theres quite a bit directed at game developers.
    .... I actually spent a good half hour using Google on the matter, I'm sure anyone could actually.

    When it comes to software development I do. I know quite a bit because I deal with it on a daily basis - from contracting and licensing, product management, software development, etc. - 12 years doing this I've been through pretty much most of it.

    What you're stating above has nothing to do with software development but rather gambling.

    Regardless of any of this, Ben's response is clear as to why they do these breaks.

    I had that feeling in my first post when I mentioned it... so googled Game Development Laws and was hit with a kitten load of information about player protection regulations, copyright infringements and so on.
    It was informative as I never knew till know that theres a lot of legal kitten involved with making a game outside of copyright.
    Also learnt people use WoW and Second Life to launder money lmao and a bunch of questionable illegal choices people are using video games for now.

  • DigiQWill.6378DigiQWill.6378 Member ✭✭✭

    The ranked game mode in GW2 is actually pretty toxic. Not the most toxic, but it really is an exhausting 2 months of ranked with high toxicity. The 2 to 3 weeks break is good for your mental health, trust me!

    That aside, I still do not understand why they don't push balance patches 1 week before the season starts, instead of just shifting everything midseason.

  • Sovari.7246Sovari.7246 Member ✭✭

    Some PvP special events would be nice when there's downtime, it's probably not feasible but would be cool having a week of core only gameplay then 2nd week of HoT only gameplay then PoF

  • Tuchanka.5148Tuchanka.5148 Member ✭✭

    Suggestion to make offseason interesting:

    2 BALANCE Patches PER PVP SEASON!
    Celebrate them like a LW Release just for the competitive players! Not everything listed has to happen all the time during an offseason.
    But sometimes change is good and needed.

    OFF SEASON BALANCE Patch -> Change runes amuletts skills, sigills all that stuff
    Class Reworks!
    New Map Rotations
    New Map Betas
    Special Event Weeks
    1v1 2v2 3v3 10v10 Queues + ATs

    NEW SEASON BALANCE PATCH -> React to player feedback,
    Adjust the "degen. play" builds
    No random full class "reworks"( Let Mesmers live-duh!)
    Show Rewards(like Weapons/Armors/more Lamas?)

    START THE NEW SEASON!
    during a season:
    Let the players enjoy and play the game and their class.
    Necessary Hotfixes
    Bug squashing!

    What do you think?
    Maybe it's just wishful thinking .
    No system is perfect.

  • Leablo.2651Leablo.2651 Member ✭✭✭

    @sephiroth.4217 said:
    To play other games! Lol

    No but for real, could be a gaming law or something.

    Quick google search gave me this:
    Gaming law is the set of rules and regulations that apply to the gaming industry. Gaming law is not a branch of law in the traditional sense but rather is a collection of several areas of law that include criminal law, regulatory law, constitutional law, administrative law, company law, contract law, and in some jurisdictions, competition law.

    I wish it was a little more to the point because in my country, "gaming" also means poker machines.

    That's every country. "Gaming" is a statutory euphemism for casino gambling. In law, video games are typically referred to as entertainment software or something along those lines.

  • sephiroth.4217sephiroth.4217 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Leablo.2651 said:

    @sephiroth.4217 said:
    To play other games! Lol

    No but for real, could be a gaming law or something.

    Quick google search gave me this:
    Gaming law is the set of rules and regulations that apply to the gaming industry. Gaming law is not a branch of law in the traditional sense but rather is a collection of several areas of law that include criminal law, regulatory law, constitutional law, administrative law, company law, contract law, and in some jurisdictions, competition law.

    I wish it was a little more to the point because in my country, "gaming" also means poker machines.

    That's every country. "Gaming" is a statutory euphemism for casino gambling. In law, video games are typically referred to as entertainment software or something along those lines.

    Yeah we were talking about it in an earlier post... refined the search down too videogame development laws rules and regulations.

  • Eddbopkins.2630Eddbopkins.2630 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Tuchanka.5148 said:
    Suggestion to make offseason interesting:

    2 BALANCE Patches PER PVP SEASON!
    Celebrate them like a LW Release just for the competitive players! Not everything listed has to happen all the time during an offseason.
    But sometimes change is good and needed.

    OFF SEASON BALANCE Patch -> Change runes amuletts skills, sigills all that stuff
    Class Reworks!
    New Map Rotations
    New Map Betas
    Special Event Weeks
    1v1 2v2 3v3 10v10 Queues + ATs

    NEW SEASON BALANCE PATCH -> React to player feedback,
    Adjust the "degen. play" builds
    No random full class "reworks"( Let Mesmers live-duh!)
    Show Rewards(like Weapons/Armors/more Lamas?)

    START THE NEW SEASON!
    during a season:
    Let the players enjoy and play the game and their class.
    Necessary Hotfixes
    Bug squashing!

    What do you think?
    Maybe it's just wishful thinking .
    No system is perfect.

    These are all great, fun and intresting ideas. But it takes man hours and time to implement anything youve suggested and i just dont think anet is that dedicated to pvp. But hay if they do even one of your ideas id be astonished and excited for pvp.

  • Donutdude.9582Donutdude.9582 Member ✭✭✭

    @Impact.6213 said:
    It was suppose to be... but you're right, they abandoned it long ago and now its just a PvE game where you can play PvP on the side.

    Thought I'd weight in on this point.

    Guild Wars 2 was never marketed as a PvP game. Nor was its predecessor. The Guild Wars franchise has always been a PvX franchise.

    If you're looking for a more PvP-focused games, there are other titles out there. If not, you really do need to manage your expectations as a customer.

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  • MyPuppy.8970MyPuppy.8970 Member ✭✭✭✭

    To make people working out so they're in good shape for upcoming season.

  • Vegeta.2563Vegeta.2563 Member ✭✭✭

    @Ben Phongluangtham.1065 said:
    We've always had a break in-between seasons. The purpose was always to both give people a break and time to reset. Additionally, when the break used to be about 4 weeks, we'd try to use that time for balance updates. In the past couple years or so, we reduced the break to more or less 2 weeks. We sometimes delay an extra week, if there is good reason to do so. (Holidays, too close to some other event/balance release, etc.)

    We do have some talk on doing something with the off-season time, but aren't really ready to talk about that in detail yet.

    How about disabling unranked while a season is active, and reactivate unranked when the season is on break. This way PvP population isn't split between the 2?

  • Ziggityzog.7389Ziggityzog.7389 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Vegeta.2563 said:

    @Ben Phongluangtham.1065 said:
    We've always had a break in-between seasons. The purpose was always to both give people a break and time to reset. Additionally, when the break used to be about 4 weeks, we'd try to use that time for balance updates. In the past couple years or so, we reduced the break to more or less 2 weeks. We sometimes delay an extra week, if there is good reason to do so. (Holidays, too close to some other event/balance release, etc.)

    We do have some talk on doing something with the off-season time, but aren't really ready to talk about that in detail yet.

    How about disabling unranked while a season is active, and reactivate unranked when the season is on break. This way PvP population isn't split between the 2?

    Welp I'll play in hotjoin because there is a reason I quit the wintrade wars season 7. Dont ruin the rest of pvp for others when ranked is just a cesspool ment for basement dwellers to wintrade in. That's what they wanted that's what they get. Competitive ranked pvp ended after seasons 4/5.

  • Cpolar.3842Cpolar.3842 Member ✭✭

    Why is everyone making such a hassle about this now? This has always been the case, and they used to be even longer.

  • Crab Fear.1624Crab Fear.1624 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Cpolar.3842 said:
    Why is everyone making such a hassle about this now? This has always been the case, and they used to be even longer.

    Because we were never happy with it then either.

    It's not a NOW thing.

    You can see these threads pop up at the end of each season.

    Maybe I am alone here, but I don't log into this game for the PVE.

    Soon™ ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

  • H a z Z y.1762H a z Z y.1762 Member ✭✭

    If it weren't for the downtime between seasons i don't think i would have ever learned to play more than one class. Now i can say that i "main" 3 classes for sure which makes me a better player.

  • Lighter.5631Lighter.5631 Member ✭✭✭

    @Cpolar.3842 said:
    Why is everyone making such a hassle about this now? This has always been the case, and they used to be even longer.

    because after overwatch season ended and started a beta season for new rank system,i came back to play some gw2 pvp, only to find out i need to wait 2 weeks to play something i wanted to play. meh

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