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(Feedback) Noble Courtier Outfit

I love this outfit. It's over the top but within the realm of plausibility. It fits all my characters, all races and genders, in an elegant fashion. (Minor clipping on male asura thigh poking through the coat, but that doesn't bother me). No outrageous shoulders, charr tail/horn/ears unaffected and tail gets a flap (forgot to check asura toes). I'm a little sad the female asura get the dress rather than coat version, but I know many many players will be thrilled by that.

My only real critique goes to the male dye channels. On something this intricate I know it can be hard to choose where to apply the four channels. But for my personal aesthetic I would suggest that rather than coat/boots, vest/gloves, pants/coat edge, and trim, it be coat/pants, gloves/boots/coat edge, vest, trim. (That coat edge is what makes it so hard to aportion -- but really, coat and boots are almost never a gentleman's choice of color matches :) And my suggested distribution allows color contrasts to show the details).

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  • I also wanted to add my voice to this topic. I am normally firmly rooted in the "armor skins only" camp and very rarely buy outfits but this one checks all the boxes for me. Finally an outfit that makes my character appear to be part of this world. A dress my character could wear while be on a soiree with Queen Jennah.
    The details on the bodice, the pattern and embroidery on the cloth itself are breathtakingly beautiful.

    I think the armor designers of ArenaNet are some of the best in any MMO I have ever played and I am happy to be able to own this gown ^.^

    Thank you to whoever designed this.

  • Danikat.8537Danikat.8537 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Thanks for the info on the dye channels. :)

    I love this outfit and I'm tempted to get it but I'm worried it's too similar to the noble count and (on some races) wedding outfits and I'd just end up using it at times when I'd use those, or the Winter Monarch outfit. I'll have to look out for examples of how it looks dyed and see how that affects my opinion of it.

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  • James.1032James.1032 Member ✭✭

    It's nice, but being another outfit makes it not worth it. In a game that has a heavily-driven cosmetic endgame, outfits are super restrictive and offer less choice than swapping out individual pieces like with armour sets. I'll keep my money in my wallet until they decide to pursue more armour sets.

  • videoboy.4162videoboy.4162 Member ✭✭✭

    I think it looks really pretty and reminds me of the type of clothing Mesmers wore in Guild Wars 1.

  • Donari.5237Donari.5237 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited August 13, 2019

    @Danikat.8537 said:
    Thanks for the info on the dye channels. :)

    I love this outfit and I'm tempted to get it but I'm worried it's too similar to the noble count and (on some races) wedding outfits and I'd just end up using it at times when I'd use those, or the Winter Monarch outfit. I'll have to look out for examples of how it looks dyed and see how that affects my opinion of it.

    Here are some samples, from some hasty donning and dyeing (or just keeping the channels from the previously worn outfit).

    Female human https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/405207401315434496/610884471650123807/NobleCJin.JPG
    Male human (greens) https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/405207401315434496/610885536630177834/NobCDonari.JPG
    Male human (reds) https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/405207401315434496/610891627984191518/NobCLordV.JPG
    Male sylvari https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/405207401315434496/610892988457156629/NobCAndret.JPG
    Male charr https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/405207401315434496/610896920038342666/NobCRev.JPG
    Male norn (not my character, a guildie posted this one to complain about the big feet) https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/405207401315434496/610898798012530708/unknown.png

    Female asura gets the dress, female charr gets the coat. I didn't screen shot female sylvari but it hangs well on them too. Female skirt physics are pretty good, there's sway with movement and a flare out in a dance spin. I also didn't closely examine female dye channels because my existing dye setups worked on the alts I tested.

  • For me outfits are nothing my character would wear while being out and about fighting (see my last post about being of the armor skins only fraction). For "adventuring" I always wear armor skins. However I always wanted to have a "normal", "beautiful" (feminine) dress which does not look like my character dropped from a different world into GW2. This new outfit is probably the first one achieving this for me.
    The wedding dress to me looks strange from the front and the noble dress has a kind of "evil" vampire feel ^///^.

    For being in town outfits fill the right kind of slot because I can just "change" without having to switch all my adventuring gear. But can switch from dungeon diving hero to civilian in one click XD.

  • Tarlonniel.6534Tarlonniel.6534 Member ✭✭✭

    Oh yeah. This is 110% my thing. Definitely going to be used as an about-town outfit in place of my rather more outrageous armor/outfits.

  • Danikat.8537Danikat.8537 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Eleandra.4859 said:
    For me outfits are nothing my character would wear while being out and about fighting (see my last post about being of the armor skins only fraction). For "adventuring" I always wear armor skins. However I always wanted to have a "normal", "beautiful" (feminine) dress which does not look like my character dropped from a different world into GW2. This new outfit is probably the first one achieving this for me.
    The wedding dress to me looks strange from the front and the noble dress has a kind of "evil" vampire feel ^///^.

    For being in town outfits fill the right kind of slot because I can just "change" without having to switch all my adventuring gear. But can switch from dungeon diving hero to civilian in one click XD.

    That's exactly how I use outfits too. It's a habit I picked up playing Morrowind (the first RPG I played with non-combat clothing available to the player and one of the first where you could see your character in enough detail for it to matter). I'd "obtain" some clothing as early as I could and swap to it whenever I got into a town, because my character looked massively out of place walking around in their armour. I've done the same in every game which let me since then.

    I don't have many outfits, but the majority of ones I've bought are ones which don't look like armour, and I like to have a mix of 'plain' clothes (e.g. common clothing, monk, cook's outfit) and fancy ones for special occasions (noble count, wedding, winter monarch). The exception is the arctic explorer's outfit which does look kind-of like light/medium armour, but I bought that because a lot of my characters are not appropriately dressed for cold areas and watching them run around in the snow in sleeveless tops makes me feel cold.

    The only outfits I have which look like armour are the royal guard, fallen Balthazar and hexed outfits, which were free and the sunspear one which was part of PoF Deluxe and I don't tend to use those as much.

    As it stands there's 2 things which put me off getting more:
    1) Dyes are shared across all of them, which means I either have to find ones that work with the same dye pattern (increasingly difficult as I get more) or I have to change them each time which ruins the convenience of having something to quickly swap to when the situation calls for it.
    2) There's not many which suit my characters and how I use them (most outfits do look like armour) and then they end up being too similar to ones I already have, which is exactly the problem I have here.

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  • Ashantara.8731Ashantara.8731 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited August 13, 2019

    @Donari.5237 said:
    I love this outfit.

    It's heavily inspired by the Austrian and other Imperial Courts of the 19th/early 20th century.

    Edit: Ooh, finally found a good link: https://www.kaiserliche-wagenburg.at/en/visit/sammlungen/monturdepot/selected-masterpieces/ :)

  • Rauderi.8706Rauderi.8706 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Only seen screenshots so far, but I love this and will likely be buying gems as soon as I get home. It favors an intricate design instead of an absurd silhouette (no WoW-shoulders here! and no creepy faces!) and the detail is incredibly striking. I definitely want more of this kind of work for outfits and armor.

    ..and a summer swimsuit, but I guess there's next year for that.

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  • Ashantara.8731Ashantara.8731 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited August 13, 2019

    @Rauderi.8706 said:
    I definitely want more of this kind of work for outfits and armor.

    Quality-wise? Yes. Regarding the design? No.

    Why? Look at my example link above. Imperial dress code of the late 19th century doesn't really fit into the original design of GW2 (yes, they have gone crazy in that regard with futuristic stuff, wild west outfits and what not, so it might not matter to many, but I still find it unpleasant when they break the immersion with random eras' designs).

  • notebene.3190notebene.3190 Member ✭✭✭✭

    For some reason, I can't click on any of the links in this thread to see the pictures. They all seem broken. :confused:

    In the event I don't get a chance, thank you all for the company and help when I needed it from time to time.

  • GWMO.4785GWMO.4785 Member ✭✭✭
    edited August 13, 2019

    I like the outfit in general. But once again poorly ported to other races. I mean seriously look how stretched that looks. I am amazed that there is not 1 person at ANet that thinks "hold up, this does not done right"....


    Edit; show direct preview. opening links seem to be broken lately.

  • Josiah.2967Josiah.2967 Member ✭✭✭

    @GWMO.4785 said:
    I like the outfit in general. But once again poorly ported to other races. I mean seriously look how stretched that looks. I am amazed that there is not 1 person at ANet that thinks "hold up, this does not done right"....


    Edit; show direct preview. opening links seem to be broken lately.

    That is awful. As a person that plays Asura, this would ruin it for me if I played female characters..

  • Lahmia.2193Lahmia.2193 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Fantastic outfit. Bought as soon as I saw it.

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  • Tarlonniel.6534Tarlonniel.6534 Member ✭✭✭

    Oh, hey, there's a second geometric pattern on the inner-skirt-part that only shows up with certain dyes. Cool.

  • AgentMoore.9453AgentMoore.9453 Member ✭✭✭

    I got excited when I saw "Courtier" in the name, but then I realized it was human court, not an awesome Nightmare outfit.

  • @Super Hayes.6890 said:
    I hate that I can't choose my own headgear. That's the main issue I have with all outfits. This one has awesome potential with different head gear. I just don't do masks. A fancy hat would've been better.

    Agreed here. Love the outfit, but I would love to put on another piece of headgear beside the mask. Like one of the crowns, or a monocle.

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  • Ultramex.1506Ultramex.1506 Member ✭✭✭

    Wanted the dress version for female Charr then remember how Fancy Winter Outfit is messed up on female Charr...............yea.

  • Hashberry.4510Hashberry.4510 Member ✭✭✭

    @notebene.3190 said:
    For some reason, I can't click on any of the links in this thread to see the pictures. They all seem broken. :confused:

    The forum is broken. You have to copy the text and paste it in the address bar.

  • I don't know, it kind of looks like that other outfit where they erased the legs underneath of the dress. I can't check to see if that's what they did here, but I'm not going to spend the gold to find out.

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  • Tiviana.2650Tiviana.2650 Member ✭✭✭

    @Rauderi.8706 said:

    ..and a summer swimsuit, but I guess there's next year for that.

    Mini Beach Gourdon stole my bikini top and is using it as a bottom!

  • videoboy.4162videoboy.4162 Member ✭✭✭

    I just realized how much that dress reminds me of Danika from the Kurzick area.

  • MetalGirl.2370MetalGirl.2370 Member ✭✭✭

    Dresses are only good when you're standing still, the moment you start to move you realize how horrible the physics are and also it stretches horribly, not to mention now that we have mounts how horrible it must look while sitting on it

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  • Dragon Priestess.9760Dragon Priestess.9760 Member ✭✭✭
    edited August 14, 2019

    I bought the heck out of it. Love it. I've been wanting a noble town dress for SO long!!!

    No idea why but it reminds me of Saber from the Fate series.

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  • AzureTerra.1642AzureTerra.1642 Member ✭✭✭

    @Donari.5237 said:

    . I'm a little sad the female asura get the dress rather than coat version, but I know many many players will be thrilled by that.

    Lady Asura need more things that for them to wear that are not just clones of the male attire.

  • Rauderi.8706Rauderi.8706 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Ashantara.8731 said:
    Why? Look at my example link above. Imperial dress code of the late 19th century doesn't really fit into the original design of GW2 (yes, they have gone crazy in that regard with futuristic stuff, wild west outfits and what not, so it might not matter to many, but I still find it unpleasant when they break the immersion with random eras' designs).

    GW2 doesn't really have a defined era to start with, so that expectation is more self-imposed. Coming from a lay perspective of history and fashion, I'll gladly take 19C inspired clothing over more Asura blocky glowy stuff. Period crossover is just going to be a thing, especially when Industrial-Roman CatBulls are a major force in the world.

    Though, now I have to agree with folks who wanted a jaunty hat to go with the outfit. ;-; I don't mind the mask, but spiffier headwear would've been spiffier.

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  • I just wish I could dye the backpack skin, because if I don't use somewhat defaulty lookalike colors of it on the glider skin, it looks really weird while going into gliding state and vice versa. :/

  • It doesn't look bad, i like the combination together with the sword, need only one good class to RP properly.

  • Why no female version for Charr, although they bothered doing one for female Asura???

  • @AllNightPlayer.1286 said:
    Why no female version for Charr, although they bothered doing one for female Asura???

    ^^^this, what the hell....CAN A FEMALE CHARR GET A DRESS THAT LOOKS NICE

    YOU GAVE IT TO ASURAS, BUT NOT THE CHARR, WHAT GIVES?!?!

  • Hashberry.4510Hashberry.4510 Member ✭✭✭

    Just look at it as an Azura in a blanket =) . They can't even run away in that.

  • GWMO.4785GWMO.4785 Member ✭✭✭
    edited August 15, 2019

    @Josiah.2967 said:
    That is awful. As a person that plays Asura, this would ruin it for me if I played female characters..

    yeah feel ya. Neither did i buy it duo to that very reason. (That picture is just a preview)

    @AllNightPlayer.1286 said:
    Why no female version for Charr, although they bothered doing one for female Asura???

    @Rizzo.4012 said:
    ^^^this, what the hell....CAN A FEMALE CHARR GET A DRESS THAT LOOKS NICE
    YOU GAVE IT TO ASURAS, BUT NOT THE CHARR, WHAT GIVES?!?!

    Have you not seen my earlier post? Like do you really want to run around with a deformed dress? Honesly be glad fem charr gets the male version. The dress looks nicer sure, but i'd prefer the other over a stretched out dress.

  • Kaliwenda.3428Kaliwenda.3428 Member ✭✭✭

    I think the dress is beautiful, I can see why it's so popular.

  • Danikat.8537Danikat.8537 Member ✭✭✭✭

    My female asura is one of the main characters I'm thinking of buying this for. She's a guardian and certainly not a girly girl but having the option for a nice dress at times might be appreciated. She has the wedding dress, but that's quite plain on asura. (Although I suspect she might be like me in this case - she'd like the idea of wearing a pretty dress, but never actually want to wear it because she wants something more practical instead.) The stretching doesn't bother me, I don't think I'd notice it when playing her.

    I don't know how much of it is my perception of the race/gender vs the character specifically but I can't imagine my female charr ever wanting to wear that dress, or anything more 'dressy' than the charr wedding dress which is more like strips of cloth than an actual skirt. I also agree that the top on the dress version would look weird on charr, even more so than on asura.

    Personally I think the ideal would be for all races and genders to be able to use both the 'male' and 'female' versions of each outfit, so players can choose what works best for their character. But I have no idea how practical that would be.

    @Donari.5237 said:

    @AllNightPlayer.1286 said:
    Why no female version for Charr, although they bothered doing one for female Asura???

    I'm on the side of female charr a) not having a cultural interest in dimorphic garments, b) not wanting their legs tangled up (I've walked up stairs in a full length skirt, it needs at least one hand to gather up the material or one steps on the hem and trips, so imagine running on all fours with something like that on; yes I also have issues with robes on charr), and c) not having breasts to fill out the top part. I feel the female version of this would just look silly on them.

    I also feel it looks silly on female asura, but it's not absolutely ridiculous for them to traipse about in long skirts in their safely-controlled flat paved city -- heck, my male asura likes a robe, he thinks it adds to his gravitas -- and many players really do want to dress their female asura in frills and lace. So while my female asura will balk at it, I'm only mildly sad that they can't get the male version. They have lots of good clothes.

    Ah, but not having to worry about the practicalities is part of the fun of doing things in a game instead of real life. Like how my main character can swim through a river with her waist length hair loose, a bow and gods-only-know-what else on her back and emerge with it all perfectly in place and never tangled up, when I can't go swimming in a pool with my hair in a plait without spending 1/2 an hour untangling it afterwards.

    My first thought when I saw this outfit is that the top looks really uncomfortable (it appears to be a corset top, with at least some parts made from metal) and the skirt must have hoops or boning or something similar underneath...then I remembered that doesn't matter.

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