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Delete 2 NA Tiers asap please

Before totally removing WvW from the game as per your current plans, please condense NA to just two tiers for a while so we might actually see an enemy person.

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  • phreeak.1023phreeak.1023 Member ✭✭
    edited August 14, 2019

    For EU too. Just merge all 5 french server into 2 server.. same for the Germans. Merge the 7 servers into 3.. and some international servers like Aurora are more than dead because everyone left

  • googel.3278googel.3278 Member ✭✭✭

    Aurora thinks they are hardcore, I think that server needs to be deleted.

  • @googel.3278 said:
    Aurora thinks they are hardcore, I think that server needs to be deleted.

    idk.. but AG is just a bunch of roamers (with maybe 1-2 small Guilds) where no one cares joining a Squad and refuse to use TS. Thats why the last Guild left last week Aurora, who made public squads (with discord requirements to join)

  • Roamers who do not want used voice chat? I could recruit them. Voice chat is - where drama begins.

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    Devona's Rest

  • @TheIceman.1039 said:
    Roamers who do not want used voice chat? I could recruit them. Voice chat is - where drama begins.

    nah, sometimes.
    but we are fighting GH+DZ which are overstacked and if they get wiped once, they coming back with 80ppl (or attacking with 80ppl T3 at the start). Having ppl in TS3 following the commands are neccessary to have fun. But it seems AG ppl doesnt care. everyone is like "i am the boss, i jump into 80ppl and killing them by myself" :p so we have 40ppl in Squad and TS and 40 roaming free bags for the enemy squad.

  • Stand The Wall.6987Stand The Wall.6987 Member ✭✭✭✭

    yes lets have china queues cuz some ppl don't know how to transfer.

    you don't know till you know, ya know.

  • Ayrilana.1396Ayrilana.1396 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Stand The Wall.6987 said:
    yes lets have china queues cuz some ppl don't know how to transfer.

    Reminded me of this:

    http://i.imgur.com/4lZINmu.jpg

  • Stand The Wall.6987Stand The Wall.6987 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Ayrilana.1396 said:

    @Stand The Wall.6987 said:
    yes lets have china queues cuz some ppl don't know how to transfer.

    Reminded me of this:

    http://i.imgur.com/4lZINmu.jpg

    ugghhh… the pain.

    you don't know till you know, ya know.

  • @Stand The Wall.6987 said:
    yes lets have china queues cuz some ppl don't know how to transfer.

    So people should be forced to pay money in order to stay on a reasonably populated server?

  • Karnasis.6892Karnasis.6892 Member ✭✭✭

    So.... for the OP.... when do you play. I see lots of people in T4 NA >.>

  • shiri.4257shiri.4257 Member ✭✭✭

    delete players that have transferred more than 3x in the past year please. t3/4 is fine.

    Spectre [VII] - Wood League Champion. Making "fight guilds" stack on higher tiers since 2013.
    Michelin rated WvW guild since 2015. The gold standard. Never transferred, never reformed, adapting and reloading with or without Anet.

  • Stand The Wall.6987Stand The Wall.6987 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Paradoxoglanis.1904 said:

    @Stand The Wall.6987 said:
    yes lets have china queues cuz some ppl don't know how to transfer.

    So people should be forced to pay money in order to stay on a reasonably populated server?

    no. a bad solution is better then no solution at all however.

    you don't know till you know, ya know.

  • fixit.7189fixit.7189 Member ✭✭✭
    edited August 14, 2019

    @Karnasis.6892 said:
    So.... for the OP.... when do you play. I see lots of people in T4 NA >.>

    good old t4 where we flip t3 keeps, towers, camps, garrison, and even SMC with 12 or less people: no one comes to defend b/c the other servers are dead at that time. conversely, the same thing happens to us when our 16 hour dead zone comes about. ya, when i play there is barely anyone around which isn't much fun. but that's just me.

  • EremiteAngel.9765EremiteAngel.9765 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Karnasis.6892 said:
    So.... for the OP.... when do you play. I see lots of people in T4 NA >.>

    This is probably right.
    NA prime hours generally have lots of players across all the tiers.
    The problem comes about during other time zones where differences in pop can be much wider.
    I’m not sure how this can be fixed though.
    Removing tiers will help other time zones but cause NA prime to be over queued.

    Visit 🏴‍☠️ Eremite's WvW Necromancy Graveyard 🏴‍☠️

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  • Karnasis.6892Karnasis.6892 Member ✭✭✭

    @fixit.7189 said:

    @Karnasis.6892 said:
    So.... for the OP.... when do you play. I see lots of people in T4 NA >.>

    good old t4 where we flip t3 keeps, towers, camps, garrison, and even SMC with 12 or less people: no one comes to defend b/c the other servers are dead at that time. conversely, the same thing happens to us when our 16 hour dead zone comes about. ya, when i play there is barely anyone around which isn't much fun. but that's just me.

    But, you aren't answering the question. The question is "When does he play?" because it matters. Yes, on most NA servers, NA is stacked pretty hard, but outside that timezone there is a lower population for sure. Which is why he thinks it's dead. It's not, I've played at OCX and EU times through out the week and typically it picks up quick, but there is definite lulls between those times.

    But I've been linked to BG in the past and been in some of the higher tiers that basically have sizable groups running at different times.

  • Sovereign.1093Sovereign.1093 Member ✭✭✭✭

    we at t4 could us some pop for nsp. hehehe. but we got some players not totaly empty maybe, delete 1 tier or server to spread the population

    Not Even Coverage is the Only broken thing in WVW.

  • Threather.9354Threather.9354 Member ✭✭✭
    edited August 15, 2019

    Yup EU needs 1 tier removed as well. Germans always played with superior numbers inefficiently but with the linking system they don't know how to play with so few people. Currently 3 (2 main, 1 link) servers out of 5 in T5 are German.

    But yea, reducing tiers doesn't fix the issues of why the WvW population is declining. They need to promote small-scale importance and decision-making so small groups/commanders can grow slowly into bigger ones, currently most of the people just log in when theres a blob because any unorganised open commanding group between 15-40 people is just pretty much getting farmed. There is a reason active people are stacking on blob servers just to sit in SM waiting for enemy/commander instead of doing anything on the maps.

    Community is also to blame for the inactivity off-prime, majority of the existing commanders on the servers don't tag up unless there is an enemy group already, because they don't want to be labeled as PPT commanders,. As if there is such a thing, there are just commanders that let enemy dictate when they play the game and commanders that don't. They fail in simple logic; you tag up more, enemy will tag up more, the non-guild, and even guild because recruitment is necessary, WvW will die if all servers wait for the enemy groups to show up first.

    ANET can't do much about this ego stupidity but they can promote new commanders, that have different motives for tagging up than veterans, by giving smaller numbers easier time by making long-duration attacks/defences a thing by nerfing shield gen attacks and rework of watchtower tactic so their movement within the map isn't that hindered. This would also give blobs something to do, circumventing siege, while enemy gathers up over just "oh we took the 2 enemy t3 keeps in 5 minutes, nothing left to do". People don't all log-in at the same time. Like if you can literally everytime walk to same gate of bay while building 3 shield gens, 5 rams and get in on the first try, because defensive siege doesn't matter against shield gens, there is something wrong with lack of decisionmaking.

    Like I am all for more fights instead of less siege-camping inside keeps but pace of the WvW can't handle this blob-favored braindead balance that actually isn't even good to build up more blobs.

    Ri Ba - WvW Commander, scout, loudmouth, tryhard
    Making Desolation great again/Alt somewhere
    Diamond Legend

  • Sovereign.1093Sovereign.1093 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited August 15, 2019

    the community part the only thing anet can do is bounties to reward positive behavior.

    i.e. get quest to cap x something or def something besides passive stuff. hence guild missions but since the reward is once a week, its not enough. guild rankings would be nice. and tournament

    because community wise, the players will do what they will to survive. ie. blob or cloud.

    for small scale, well a group of teams are needed. and so there is a need for multiple commanders.

    while in theory it works, its hard to communicate with others disagree with u. the bullying mentality takes place.

    i.e. deso.

    but other servers arent like that

    i.e. bg. team work is key there. and really experienced players.

    and there are things ppl can do, like host their own events in wvw and invite others to join.

    i.e. deso hotswap, also now available in nsp.

    also, a bit of pug training helps.
    i.e. when i asked the guys to do a bit of simple straight line push and asking for a bit of ele in the comp, the fights against the boon zerg of cd was easier.

    tldr. we need to pass the info to the new players. and players need to try whats working for the squad.

    but anet wise. its really the carrot thats missing

    Not Even Coverage is the Only broken thing in WVW.

  • TheBravery.9615TheBravery.9615 Member ✭✭✭

    anet will likely just fill wvw maps with pve mobs instead

  • Sovereign.1093Sovereign.1093 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @TheBravery.9615 said:
    anet will likely just fill wvw maps with pve mobs instead

    well someone in there has to be thinking like disney long term marvel thing. or be someone like the human body who makes things up as it goes. either way, a need it is. and i think because of the recent borderlands 3 thing, diablo feces, they're playing it safe.

    Not Even Coverage is the Only broken thing in WVW.

  • Threather.9354Threather.9354 Member ✭✭✭
    edited August 15, 2019

    Sorry but I played the WvW past 4 years in multiple different servers including NA (FA, FC, Kaineng (when dods was there)) and EU (Piken, Vabbi (when it was blobby, I was the last off-prime regular comm), FSP, Gandara, Deso, even some french/german servers). This has nothing to do with just Deso, which is my main server. Adaptation of the community is not the problem, rather the siege/defense/point/blob balance that insued from HoT. And I played a lot gaining like 6-7k ranks in this time.

    And yes, I do mostly off-prime commanding (daytime) these days but I did do nightcrew for a couple of years while tagging up primetime often when necessary. Scouting, camp flipping, small-scale, dueling etc also. I am fine with the numbers I get rn, it varies from 10 people (offensive desert map) to 70 people (good mu, eb/home bl) while I am getting a multiple good close fights each time I tag up.

    You might not realise this but the gap between constantly wiping because bad decisionmaking and being able to have fun commanding is way too large right now. I already adapted to all the WvW changes by reaching top level in PvP and failing at multiple objectives etc. but it shouldn't take that much for a simple new PPT commander to tag up. Scouts have almost 0 impact regarding how the game plays in large-scale outside screaming for help. I'd prefer if a single player, that isn't a commander, could feel like he has some importance in this gamemode. It just pains me to see how bad time new/unpopular commanders/scouts/camp flippers are having just because they happened to start the game later than others.

    Ri Ba - WvW Commander, scout, loudmouth, tryhard
    Making Desolation great again/Alt somewhere
    Diamond Legend

  • Sovereign.1093Sovereign.1093 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited August 15, 2019

    you've played for the past 4 years, i've played wvw for the past 6 years. deso and other servers i used are examples it's not a generalization. i've played in vabbi/deso/cd/sfr/sbi/bg/tc/sos/nsp. so what's your point? :3

    Not Even Coverage is the Only broken thing in WVW.

  • shiri.4257shiri.4257 Member ✭✭✭

    @fixit.7189 said:

    @Karnasis.6892 said:
    So.... for the OP.... when do you play. I see lots of people in T4 NA >.>

    good old t4 where we flip t3 keeps, towers, camps, garrison, and even SMC with 12 or less people: no one comes to defend b/c the other servers are dead at that time. conversely, the same thing happens to us when our 16 hour dead zone comes about. ya, when i play there is barely anyone around which isn't much fun. but that's just me.

    Why do players care about a timezone they don't play? Do they magically become some elite player when they transfer to a higher tier carried by players they don't even associate with? A piece of trash is still a piece of trash no matter what dumpster it's in.

    Spectre [VII] - Wood League Champion. Making "fight guilds" stack on higher tiers since 2013.
    Michelin rated WvW guild since 2015. The gold standard. Never transferred, never reformed, adapting and reloading with or without Anet.

  • LetoII.3782LetoII.3782 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @TheBravery.9615 said:
    anet will likely just fill wvw maps with pve mobs instead

    There's bots in gold league spvp. They might form a guild and run us all off O.o

    [HUNT] the predatory instinct

  • @EremiteAngel.9765 said:

    @Karnasis.6892 said:
    So.... for the OP.... when do you play. I see lots of people in T4 NA >.>

    This is probably right.
    NA prime hours generally have lots of players across all the tiers.
    The problem comes about during other time zones where differences in pop can be much wider.
    I’m not sure how this can be fixed though.
    Removing tiers will help other time zones but cause NA prime to be over queued.

    I don't think NA prime has "lots of player across all tiers". Of the 16 maps there might be a couple that see a queue now and then.. nothing really huge.

    If your 4 maps are in the wrong tier you might not see much action at all if any..

  • Blackarps.1974Blackarps.1974 Member ✭✭✭

    No to long queue times and no to dead servers/tiers. Why can't we have a middle ground? I just want action, not laggy blobs or empty maps.

  • Sovereign.1093Sovereign.1093 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Blackarps.1974 said:
    No to long queue times and no to dead servers/tiers. Why can't we have a middle ground? I just want action, not laggy blobs or empty maps.

    best to check if the server ur in is active at the time zone you play. >.<,

    Not Even Coverage is the Only broken thing in WVW.

  • Gop.8713Gop.8713 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Blackarps.1974 said:
    No to long queue times and no to dead servers/tiers. Why can't we have a middle ground? I just want action, not laggy blobs or empty maps.

    This would be the best solution, to take ppl from the overpopulated servers and spread them around to the underpopulated servers so there is more action for everyone. Unfortunately very few ppl are willing to make those moves voluntarily and even fewer want to see players moved against their will . . .

    It's worth noting that Godot's Alliances (GA) -- once they arrive -- will effectively allow anet to do exactly this . . .

  • Aeolus.3615Aeolus.3615 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited August 16, 2019

    Some servers on t4 can have a queue or pull out easilly 40-50ish while other have barely 15-20 players.

    Problem is not stacking by removing servers, cause that is more than proven game can’t handle that many players in a zone, it would create huge queues and lag while other server in same match would have low population due how links pairs servers.

  • Sovereign.1093Sovereign.1093 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited August 16, 2019

    true. we at nsp could use 1 ausy 1 sea 1 eu guild. i mean ysb has that mega blob at na and cd has that mini blob at sea to eu. @[email protected] and fighting those two reminds me of teams using pvt melandru or minstrel sets.

    i know tc or db which ever falls to oue tier will have numbers too. hehe.

    Not Even Coverage is the Only broken thing in WVW.

  • fixit.7189fixit.7189 Member ✭✭✭
    edited August 16, 2019

    @Sovereign.1093 said:
    true. we at nsp could use 1 ausy 1 sea 1 eu guild. i mean ysb has that mega blob at na and cd has that mini blob at sea to eu. @[email protected] and fighting those two reminds me of teams using pvt melandru or minstrel sets.

    i know tc or db which ever falls to oue tier will have numbers too. hehe.

    ya, far as i can tell, nsp has plenty of sea guilds seeing as their huge blobs take over every thing at this time. conversely, has YB NONE. it's only na prime time there is lots of players, the rest of the time yb is dead. now I just log off early in frustration, i don't want too but there is no choice in the matter. meh.

  • Just delete blackgate, That server is far from fun to play against, they have 50+ people just running around Ktraining maps, while the other servers have 10-15 people trying to stop them. Servers dont even bother playing if they get pushed to T1 because other server tank out to avoid BG, just stick that server in a tier of its own with maps that auto flip so they can Ktrain freely without having to do anything else.

  • @fixit.7189 said:

    @Sovereign.1093 said:
    true. we at nsp could use 1 ausy 1 sea 1 eu guild. i mean ysb has that mega blob at na and cd has that mini blob at sea to eu. @[email protected] and fighting those two reminds me of teams using pvt melandru or minstrel sets.

    i know tc or db which ever falls to oue tier will have numbers too. hehe.

    ya, far as i can tell, nsp has plenty of sea guilds seeing as their huge blobs take over every thing at this time. conversely, has YB NONE. it's only na prime time there is lots of players, the rest of the time yb is dead. now I just log off early in frustration, i don't want too but there is no choice in the matter. meh.

    Think you confused nsp w cd. CD is the the blob at that time and yb and nsp each have 10-15

  • ZhouX.8742ZhouX.8742 Member ✭✭✭

    @Grim West.3194 said:
    Just delete BG. They are the cancer that killed WvW.

    ArenaNet killed WvW

  • Sovereign.1093Sovereign.1093 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Jayden Reese.9542 said:

    @fixit.7189 said:

    @Sovereign.1093 said:
    true. we at nsp could use 1 ausy 1 sea 1 eu guild. i mean ysb has that mega blob at na and cd has that mini blob at sea to eu. @[email protected] and fighting those two reminds me of teams using pvt melandru or minstrel sets.

    i know tc or db which ever falls to oue tier will have numbers too. hehe.

    ya, far as i can tell, nsp has plenty of sea guilds seeing as their huge blobs take over every thing at this time. conversely, has YB NONE. it's only na prime time there is lots of players, the rest of the time yb is dead. now I just log off early in frustration, i don't want too but there is no choice in the matter. meh.

    Think you confused nsp w cd. CD is the the blob at that time and yb and nsp each have 10-15

    this :3

    Not Even Coverage is the Only broken thing in WVW.

  • fixit.7189fixit.7189 Member ✭✭✭
    edited August 16, 2019

    that's funny, last night at sea times, nsp took over every t3 objective on all maps with a blob of 40+ players: i watched them do it. and they do this every night! w/e, don't mind me, i am just a bit frustrated. i will just have to wait for re-links and hope for the best i guess.

  • Sovereign.1093Sovereign.1093 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited August 16, 2019

    @fixit.7189 said:
    that's funny, last night at sea times, nsp took over every t3 objective on all maps with a blob of 40+ players: i watched them do it. and they do this every night! w/e, don't mind me, i am just a bit frustrated. i will just have to wait for re-links and hope for the best i guess.

    what time zone? while we do take stuff - we're kind of 15nish if it's 2pm to 6pm that's us. we're nomrlally 15nish and right now we're having our commander hotswap so it's been a few who's leading our squad. it's kinda fun for the nsp and ebay ppl

    Not Even Coverage is the Only broken thing in WVW.

  • shiri.4257shiri.4257 Member ✭✭✭

    90% of a server's population are fairweathers. You'll have a queue and outnumber an opponent when you don't have a trash commander and more competent pugs than the opposing side. If you're outnumbered in your time zone. You can ask yourself, 1) is the commander I'm following trash? 2) are the people around me trash? 3) am i trash? and you'll understand why you'll have numbers depending on matchups.

    Spectre [VII] - Wood League Champion. Making "fight guilds" stack on higher tiers since 2013.
    Michelin rated WvW guild since 2015. The gold standard. Never transferred, never reformed, adapting and reloading with or without Anet.

  • @fixit.7189 said:
    that's funny, last night at sea times, nsp took over every t3 objective on all maps with a blob of 40+ players: i watched them do it. and they do this every night! w/e, don't mind me, i am just a bit frustrated. i will just have to wait for re-links and hope for the best i guess.

    No one is arguing that a zerg is doing that every night cause that is happening. You are just confused by who is doing it or what hours sea covers. You can even go check prior skirmishes and TZ coverage to see. Reset anyway so well see who's down here replacing CD.

  • Chaba.5410Chaba.5410 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Grim West.3194 said:
    Just delete BG. They are the cancer that killed WvW.

    OpenBG

  • fixit.7189fixit.7189 Member ✭✭✭
    edited August 16, 2019

    ya, another week to be farmed by organized meta comp nsp zergs lol. k/d ratio tells all. w/e. i think i might just not bother with wvw for now. no one wants a newbie pug around anyways so one less to worry about. hfgl! ^.^

  • Aeolus.3615Aeolus.3615 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited August 16, 2019

    @fixit.7189 said:
    ya, another week to be farmed by organized meta comp nsp zergs lol. k/d ratio tells all. w/e. i think i might just not bother with wvw for now. no one wants a newbie pug around anyways so one less to worry about. hfgl! ^.^

    Yet every time I play as nsp we get outnumbered being in my main time or night time.

    This week we didn’t had a Zerg, compared to other 2 servers all we had was small groups...
    There’s a issue in the design of wvw that anet enforces big vs medium vs small server even the links we have have no population.

    This is one of the problems with game class designs and wvw mechanics that allow to ktrain while enemy has no chance of retaliate due numbers and aoe spam n stack gameplay.

    We were talking in guild cons that who is facing huge blobs and is heavily outmanned, need more than actually a magic find buff... a militia boon locking bloodlust and kills should count more for score.

    For sure my gm can provide videos of facing numbers...

    If the mega bloob loses a t3 keep to the heavy outmanned server that server need to be punished while the server that capped need better reward as welll.

    The current laws in wvw are awfull and only help the ktrain server.

    Nsp was fighting 2 servers if most wvw need to stack a full queue server to actually cap something the game should not punish the players that get outmanned either, but that is what is happening.

    Edit: we aren’t talking about wvw talk that can’t be talked in forum, we are giving feedback how game forces servers to full mega blob and ktrain the server with barely no population.

    At my eyes this is a flaw in its concept.
    Maybe we can have anet devs playing at this tiers mostly t4 rather than hide behind mega blobs or taking 10 vs 1...momments.

  • fixit.7189fixit.7189 Member ✭✭✭
    edited August 16, 2019

    i was thinking it would be cool if anet some how implement a mega server tech mode to wvw, like how they did with pve: this system puts people together no matter the time of day which means there is always players to play with. it made open world pve so much better. so having some sort of option like this for wvw would be nice. this whole server vs server thing tends to encourage stacking/bandwagon mentality which isn't healthy imo. but i guess it won't change any time soon b/c mass transfers is a big cash cow for anet. oh well.

  • DeadlySynz.3471DeadlySynz.3471 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @EremiteAngel.9765 said:

    @Karnasis.6892 said:
    So.... for the OP.... when do you play. I see lots of people in T4 NA >.>

    This is probably right.
    NA prime hours generally have lots of players across all the tiers.
    The problem comes about during other time zones where differences in pop can be much wider.
    I’m not sure how this can be fixed though.
    Removing tiers will help other time zones but cause NA prime to be over queued.

    over-qued is better than either being outnumbered or scrambling to find others to play with. That one time when Anet buggered up the relinks and ended up linking 4 servers together did in fact create ques across all maps on reset, but they weren't that bad, at least not 2-3hrs after reset. It also wasn't bad the rest of the weekend or the week. You'd log in and maybe you'd see 1-2 maps qued, but usually it wasn't long to get on the map you want.

    The point is, if Anet did in fact eliminate T3 and T4, the 6 hosts in T1 & T2 would all have 3 server links each. As evidence for what we saw when Anet screwed that one week up, it's actually not bad, but quite good. Not good that we completely outnumbered the other 2 servers, but numbers wise, there was a decent amount of people on all throughout the day.

    IMO at least, WvW would function far better with only 2 Tiers (well NA that is, not sure about EU).

  • Blackarps.1974Blackarps.1974 Member ✭✭✭

    @Sovereign.1093 said:

    @Blackarps.1974 said:
    No to long queue times and no to dead servers/tiers. Why can't we have a middle ground? I just want action, not laggy blobs or empty maps.

    best to check if the server ur in is active at the time zone you play. >.<,

    Easier said than done. The way people bandwagon, you could be a blob server one month then dead the next. Now that nobody really plays, you can just move to Blackgate or some T1 server and play NA prime and then logout. Good luck finding anything to fight outside of that timezone.

  • Sovereign.1093Sovereign.1093 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Blackarps.1974 said:

    @Sovereign.1093 said:

    @Blackarps.1974 said:
    No to long queue times and no to dead servers/tiers. Why can't we have a middle ground? I just want action, not laggy blobs or empty maps.

    best to check if the server ur in is active at the time zone you play. >.<,

    Easier said than done. The way people bandwagon, you could be a blob server one month then dead the next. Now that nobody really plays, you can just move to Blackgate or some T1 server and play NA prime and then logout. Good luck finding anything to fight outside of that timezone.

    mmm i guess your best bet is to find a guild that.plays your timezone. 12pm server time on wards perhaps? slayers xd in nsp plays that time. <3

    Not Even Coverage is the Only broken thing in WVW.

  • It's not about finding someone to play with, it's impossible to find anyone to play AGAINST

  • Dayra.7405Dayra.7405 Member ✭✭✭
    edited August 19, 2019

    @Chaba.5410 said:

    @Grim West.3194 said:
    Just delete BG. They are the cancer that killed WvW.

    OpenBG

    You cannot play more than 5min per week (then all maps are conquered against no opposition), if everyone is on the same server. ;)

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