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  • Sarrs.4831Sarrs.4831 Member ✭✭✭

    It's really unfair to say that habitual spending is healthy or right, on anything, including GW2.

  • Here I am concerned we won't get Elite specs and that they will discontinue tons of content like they did dungeons. Why would I spend any money when Im worried that the game will continue to be stripped down rather than built up? I couldn't care less about balance anymore, its been proven time and again they can't do it so I want new elite specs to fit the new Saga.

    I didn't like any of the specs of PoF so for me it was just "Cool, Guess Ill keep doing what I've been doing." New ways to play is important, otherwise doing content the same way you did all the content is just more one time content? I replay things a lot and I have been trying to give this game the benefit of putting aside my own biases, but so far I really dislike a lot of the class design right now. Id like some new toys, maybe new designs that I could get behind and really sink my teeth into.... But I highly doubt that would happen or ever will happen again.

    Until it does my wallet is closed.

  • @googel.3278 said:

    @knomslayer.9457 said:
    I see my guildmates and alot of people are saying they have problem spending too much money on the game. No, there is no such thing spending too much real life money on the game. If you spend your money example buy gems.. You are helping/supporting the game. Your money will be used to update the game, make new outfits, new weapon skins , mount skins and so many more new content for the game. So dont feel bad whenever you feel like spending real money.

    OMG. Skins is the best content! Skin is so important! I want to look pretty and show off mah pixel character and make people jealous! Anet, please give me more skin releases so I can get more achievement points aswell! Its da endgame content!!

    P.S. Your comment made me laugh. Better to spend on booze n pizza instead of fake pixels!

    Its aight man whatever you say. Atleast im having fun, you dont have to mock or tell me whats better for me to do in game. I do what i want, if i buy something i like its my money its not yours. I hope i dont hurt you when i spend my money

  • I'm all for transmutation's being infinite.

  • Holgarf.6581Holgarf.6581 Member ✭✭✭

    @knomslayer.9457 said:
    I see my guildmates and alot of people are saying they have problem spending too much money on the game. No, there is no such thing spending too much real life money on the game. If you spend your money example buy gems.. You are helping/supporting the game. Your money will be used to update the game, make new outfits, new weapon skins , mount skins and so many more new content for the game. So dont feel bad whenever you feel like spending real money.

    Yes, the game needs to stay alive but the point initially was buy it once, get content. Now it's just a skin buying F2P game that has all of the negative aspects of a MT-based F2P title and undermines those who put tons of effort into earning cosmetics. I've put a lot of money into the game but there comes a point where it has to stop on my end. I don't solely play GW2 so I don't feel like dropping cash on gems all the time for skins that totally make in-game content look like utter garbage meanwhile all the half decent looking stuff that can be earned in-game cost an absolute fortune in gold or in time (usually both).

    I understand people love this game and I enjoy it very much myself, mainly for the events in the maps (not particularly meta events). So yes, there is such thing as spending too much real life money in the game. People's love for the game doesn't dictate other peoples opinions on how they should or should not spend their money. And also, using money they've gotten from players to make skins (tat) that are sold back to them at ridiculous cost allows them to just keep the cycle ticking over for a narrow band of people, all the while those not willing to put in any money get naff in-game cosmetics. If we're paying for skins and other nonsense for actual content creation, where is it? All I'm seeing is an endless stream of gem store utilities/trinkets and skins. Why isn't some of this adding content for everyone, paying or not? An expansion or a new season shouldn't mean that new weapons and armour skins aren't added elsewhere save for those few select places. There's a serious lack of new armours and weapons in-game considering the amount of time that has elapsed (save for Mist Shard, which I was very surprised to see didn't require Everest levels of grind to unlock). As someone who drops a reasonable amount into the game, I'd be more happy having more content available to everyone, paying or not and not put behind a monumental grind wall. Every single aspect of in-game items has an excessive grind. I'm all for grind, we should all work for our rewards, but why must absolutely every item, every quest, every speck have to follow the same plan? Yes, skins and account upgrades do pay for all this stuff but a ton of effort is wasted on creating more skins, with a huge amount of those being solely Black Lion (fake RNG - skewed %) morally devoid loot boxes.

    I've bought quite a few skins, keys, mounts, account upgrades and after I buy some Skyscale skins (because I have zero yet due to the tedious grind of unlocking yet another mount) I'm not buying anything else for at least another year. Why? I've spent a small fortunate already. Now whatever comprises a small fortune for you or anybody else is obviously subjective but I feel like I've already spent enough and in doing so I have to make do with, frankly, poor in-game cosmetic content (with all the decent stuff hidden behind a huge wall), a gazillion bugs that have never been fixed in the core content of the game, slow content updates and the constant nerfing of unidentified bag drops and ecto to prevent farming and encourage people to migrate to newer maps.

    People shouldn't feel bad if they are happy to spend money on the game and there's absolutely nothing wrong with that, but those who say they feel they have a problem spending too much on the game obviously have an underlying worry about doing so and it likely stems from the fact that underneath, they feel uneasy dumping huge amounts of money into the game when it hasn't really changed much over the years. It's a gold sink and a time sink with charm and it's that charm that keeps me playing. That and the awesome xVx guild I joined a few months back.

    Final note: I've been thinking for a few years actually about how I feel that the sheer amount of variety, game modes, mechanics and such, has made the game so complicated and time consuming for developers to get ahold on and design new content for that they can't possibly please every person in every aspect of the game, whether that be Open World / PVE, Fractals, Dungeons, PvP or WvW. This makes people angry and people leave.

  • Fueki.4753Fueki.4753 Member ✭✭✭

    @greenblue.7104 said:
    I'm all for transmutation's being infinite.

    I change my armours skins so rarely (because there barely are any I like) that they practically are close to infinite for me.

  • First of all the game isnt dead. Cosmetics are part of the game thats why legendary weapons exist. Ignoring other aspects? No they just announced there will be build templates, lw5 , alliance for wvw, and tournaments for spvp.

  • Fueki.4753Fueki.4753 Member ✭✭✭

    @knomslayer.9457 said:
    First of all the game isnt dead. Cosmetics are part of the game thats why legendary weapons exist. Ignoring other aspects? No they just announced there will be build templates, lw5 , alliance for wvw, and tournaments for spvp.

    We don't even know when episode 1 will be released.
    We only know that the prologue will be released on the 17th and it's most likely nothing more than some Charr festival.
    We might see some new cosmetics that'll be available that will be up on the Gem Store, maybe a steampunk guitar axe (or mace, possibly hammer) skin.

  • perilisk.1874perilisk.1874 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @zealex.9410 said:
    No they think the current state of the game isnt worth supporting, i dont think its worth supporting and im perfectly fine paying for expansions.

    Im not gonna buy gemstore skins so they can in turn go and make more of them, sell me content and ill buy it.

    Just quit the game until Icebrood Saga is done, then buy the whole season in the gem store and binge it. There you go.

  • @c space cowboy.2764 said:

    The lw stories feel like they are trying to bide time while they work on their next game.

    If the next game was GW3, I'd be cool with that, but nothing yet to indicate it.

  • zealex.9410zealex.9410 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @perilisk.1874 said:

    @zealex.9410 said:
    No they think the current state of the game isnt worth supporting, i dont think its worth supporting and im perfectly fine paying for expansions.

    Im not gonna buy gemstore skins so they can in turn go and make more of them, sell me content and ill buy it.

    Just quit the game until Icebrood Saga is done, then buy the whole season in the gem store and binge it. There you go.

    Its free content tho, and besides, why would I pay for smth in a game I would not have touched in over 2 years?

  • Astralporing.1957Astralporing.1957 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @knomslayer.9457 said:
    I see my guildmates and alot of people are saying they have problem spending too much money on the game. No, there is no such thing spending too much real life money on the game. If you spend your money example buy gems.. You are helping/supporting the game.

    Exactly. If you want to support the way the game is right now (like, for example, Anet not working on Expac, and not communicating with players), then yes, please, do spend money in gemshop. I'm sure Anet will be glad they won't need to make so much content as before to get your money now.

    The whole point of a social game is to play with the people you want to play with, not be forced to play with the people you don't.

  • Ashen.2907Ashen.2907 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @MetalGirl.2370 said:

    @knomslayer.9457 said:

    @MetalGirl.2370 said:
    How is that money used to update the game? They barely do anything since HoT, HoT was sold for €60 and yet we only got half of what was promised, PoF looks empty content-wise. Barely anything we ask for gets in the game. They took 7+ years to implement templates... what for? when majority of the people who asked for it don't play anymore... it's a bit too late.

    the money used to give content, living world, weekly game balance, new maps new elite specs , mounts. I disagree with the people who ''dont play anymore" , they either took a month of two break or playing invisible so they can continue playing while you believing they quit the game

    As for what you listed, SKINS ARE NOT content, you don't play a skin, however you'll use it to play the same old content you've been playing for 7 years ... and those skins probably took a day to make and selling it for €20, which..for that €20 you can buy some other game where you can spend hundreds of hours in, in some even thousands of hours...

    I disagree. Skins are content too. Skins motivate you to play the game and have fun. 99% people make legendary weapons so they can have the skin because not everyone can have that legendary skin. store skins... same thing. people will go out of there way to get skins so they can be different from other people

    The fact that you couldn't even list any real content other than "make new outfits, new weapon skins , mount skins" means you know there's nothing... saying "etc" or "many more" just means you can't think of anything else to say.

    What can i say i like skins..

    Hah... new elite specs... people are fuming at Anet for NOT giving them specs. You're so out of touch. And also... what is WEEKLY game balance...we're lucky if we get proper balance patch 2-3 times a year.
    Still skins are not content, you just said they "motivate" you to play content. Skins are skins...you don't play a skin.

    Skins are not playable content, but they are, by definition of the word, content.

  • lordalucard.8096lordalucard.8096 Member ✭✭
    edited September 5, 2019

    no more :3
    7 Years

    • no dungeons rework ( 7 years )
    • no sab 2-3 4years?? change color wepons :3
    • No 100+ fractal and Fractal Mastery (4 Years ? )
    • Always bring new map without content, I'm not interested in event
    • I feel sad seeing empty maps no content no old player
    • No Underwater
    • No WvW reworks
    • PvP To much afk for AGS
    • I love raids very much but now Lİ bi does not work
    • I waited so long add new stats gear, sigil, rune only drops raids, Dungeons, WvW Event...
    • moreeee moreeee GL :3
  • Linken.6345Linken.6345 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @lordalucard.8096 said:
    no more :3
    7 Years

    • no dungeons rework ( 7 years )
    • no sab 2-3 4years?? change color wepons :3
    • No 100+ fractal and Fractal Mastery (4 Years ? )
    • Always bring new map without content, I'm not interested in event
    • I feel sad seeing empty maps no content no old player
    • No Underwater
    • No WvW reworks
    • PvP To much afk for AGS
    • I love raids very much but now Lİ bi does not work
    • I waited so long add new stats gear, sigil, rune only drops raids, Dungeons, WvW Event...
    • moreeee moreeee GL :3

    What is Li bi?

  • @Fueki.4753 said:

    @greenblue.7104 said:
    I'm all for transmutation's being infinite.

    I change my armours skins so rarely (because there barely are any I like) that they practically are close to infinite for me.

    I've bought three outfits. One of them I regret. I don't have enough skin's yet.

  • I'm all for allowing sigil's to stack if you keep the charge's on transmutation's.

  • I would like one more battle ground.

  • Acheron.4731Acheron.4731 Member ✭✭✭

    c'mon, at least make them earn your money
    why buy skins for a game that no longer shows proof of longevity?
    I love(d) the game too but the ANET now is not the same ANET from old.
    Don't buy in the 'hope' of things getting better. Actually wait for it to get better, 'then' reward them for it with all the hard-earned money you want.

    Dilly Dilly

  • Westenev.5289Westenev.5289 Member ✭✭✭✭

    People seem to think the only way they can support Anet is by delving into their pockets. I don't think this is the case; the time you spend interacting with other players is just as valuable as the occasional 10 dollar note. It's difficult, after all, to play fractals, pvp or wvw on your own.

    Time, after all, is a valuable commodity. Unlike money, we can never get it back.

  • @Westenev.5289 said:
    People seem to think the only way they can support Anet is by delving into their pockets. I don't think this is the case; the time you spend interacting with other players is just as valuable as the occasional 10 dollar note. It's difficult, after all, to play fractals, pvp or wvw on your own.

    Time, after all, is a valuable commodity. Unlike money, we can never get it back.

    I Disagree. Interacting with people in the internet isnt worth my time if i want to support a game. You are wrong but thats your opinion so yeah.

  • zealex.9410zealex.9410 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @knomslayer.9457 said:

    @Westenev.5289 said:
    People seem to think the only way they can support Anet is by delving into their pockets. I don't think this is the case; the time you spend interacting with other players is just as valuable as the occasional 10 dollar note. It's difficult, after all, to play fractals, pvp or wvw on your own.

    Time, after all, is a valuable commodity. Unlike money, we can never get it back.

    I Disagree. Interacting with people in the internet isnt worth my time if i want to support a game. You are wrong but thats your opinion so yeah.

    having a playerbase log in and make the game look alive is a valueable meteic to them.

  • zealex.9410zealex.9410 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Acheron.4731 said:
    c'mon, at least make them earn your money
    why buy skins for a game that no longer shows proof of longevity?
    I love(d) the game too but the ANET now is not the same ANET from old.
    Don't buy in the 'hope' of things getting better. Actually wait for it to get better, 'then' reward them for it with all the hard-earned money you want.

    • 9000
  • @zealex.9410 said:

    @knomslayer.9457 said:

    @Westenev.5289 said:
    People seem to think the only way they can support Anet is by delving into their pockets. I don't think this is the case; the time you spend interacting with other players is just as valuable as the occasional 10 dollar note. It's difficult, after all, to play fractals, pvp or wvw on your own.

    Time, after all, is a valuable commodity. Unlike money, we can never get it back.

    I Disagree. Interacting with people in the internet isnt worth my time if i want to support a game. You are wrong but thats your opinion so yeah.

    having a playerbase log in and make the game look alive is a valueable meteic to them.

    Im just saying, i dont think im the only person who is playing the game without even interacting with another player. i do wvw take tower take camps take keeps with no talking, i do fractal and dungeons join group .. final boss dead i leave group. no talk . Well yeah. No do things with other people make game alive.

  • @knomslayer.9457 said:

    @zealex.9410 said:

    @knomslayer.9457 said:

    @Westenev.5289 said:
    People seem to think the only way they can support Anet is by delving into their pockets. I don't think this is the case; the time you spend interacting with other players is just as valuable as the occasional 10 dollar note. It's difficult, after all, to play fractals, pvp or wvw on your own.

    Time, after all, is a valuable commodity. Unlike money, we can never get it back.

    I Disagree. Interacting with people in the internet isnt worth my time if i want to support a game. You are wrong but thats your opinion so yeah.

    having a playerbase log in and make the game look alive is a valueable meteic to them.

    Im just saying, i dont think im the only person who is playing the game without even interacting with another player. i do wvw take tower take camps take keeps with no talking, i do fractal and dungeons join group .. final boss dead i leave group. no talk . Well yeah. No do things with other people make game alive.

    If you do all that, it means you are still interacting with the multiplayer aspect of the game, which makes you valuable to Anet.

  • @AlexxxDelta.1806 said:

    @knomslayer.9457 said:

    @zealex.9410 said:

    @knomslayer.9457 said:

    @Westenev.5289 said:
    People seem to think the only way they can support Anet is by delving into their pockets. I don't think this is the case; the time you spend interacting with other players is just as valuable as the occasional 10 dollar note. It's difficult, after all, to play fractals, pvp or wvw on your own.

    Time, after all, is a valuable commodity. Unlike money, we can never get it back.

    I Disagree. Interacting with people in the internet isnt worth my time if i want to support a game. You are wrong but thats your opinion so yeah.

    having a playerbase log in and make the game look alive is a valueable meteic to them.

    Im just saying, i dont think im the only person who is playing the game without even interacting with another player. i do wvw take tower take camps take keeps with no talking, i do fractal and dungeons join group .. final boss dead i leave group. no talk . Well yeah. No do things with other people make game alive.

    If you do all that, it means you are still interacting with the multiplayer aspect of the game, which makes you valuable to Anet.

    yes exactly. i am supporting and keep the game alive without interacting with people.. me talk to random player no make game alive. me play game make game alive

  • Westenev.5289Westenev.5289 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited September 10, 2019

    @knomslayer.9457 said:

    @AlexxxDelta.1806 said:

    @knomslayer.9457 said:

    @zealex.9410 said:

    @knomslayer.9457 said:

    @Westenev.5289 said:
    People seem to think the only way they can support Anet is by delving into their pockets. I don't think this is the case; the time you spend interacting with other players is just as valuable as the occasional 10 dollar note. It's difficult, after all, to play fractals, pvp or wvw on your own.

    Time, after all, is a valuable commodity. Unlike money, we can never get it back.

    I Disagree. Interacting with people in the internet isnt worth my time if i want to support a game. You are wrong but thats your opinion so yeah.

    having a playerbase log in and make the game look alive is a valueable meteic to them.

    Im just saying, i dont think im the only person who is playing the game without even interacting with another player. i do wvw take tower take camps take keeps with no talking, i do fractal and dungeons join group .. final boss dead i leave group. no talk . Well yeah. No do things with other people make game alive.

    If you do all that, it means you are still interacting with the multiplayer aspect of the game, which makes you valuable to Anet.

    yes exactly. i am supporting and keep the game alive without interacting with people.. me talk to random player no make game alive. me play game make game alive

    Let me clarify:
    I used the term "interact", not "socialise". Even without speaking a word, simply playing the game changed the experience for everyone else. For fractals, maybe you provided buffs. For wvw, maybe you were some players target. For open world, maybe you were the nice guy who helped rally a dude. Kitten, maybe you were the angelcake who ran right past and left them to die, ruining their whole day...

    This is the sort of thing I mean by player interaction.

    TL;DR: I don't think you have to say a word to interact with other players, and I think you disagree with a point I didn't intend to make.

  • I supported the game by buying gw2 at release, then hot at release, then pof at release. and I'd have bought a new expac at release as well.

    sadly they dont want my money anymore. fine by me, their loss, not mine

  • Acheron.4731Acheron.4731 Member ✭✭✭

    no xpac
    no more money

    Dilly Dilly

  • Safina.5726Safina.5726 Member
    edited September 14, 2019

    Uh, spending money can be a serious addiction. It's also not wise to waste money on material thing's, especially digital. I also feel like there shouldn't be cash shops in buy to play or pay to play games. It's a good thing they add really pretty outfits else my money be going to thing's I can actually physically touch and keep forever irl. Gw2 might be down one day and your money and time is gone forever.

  • Ayakaru.6583Ayakaru.6583 Member ✭✭✭✭

    You're right.
    I spend some money at the groceries yesterday, and now we got a hint that elite specs aren't of the table with living world

    To defeat the dragons, see the good in them.
    Zhaitan reunites lost ones, primordus creates fertile land, mordremoth spreads the green, and jormag..
    ..jormag? Who's that?

  • DonArkanio.6419DonArkanio.6419 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Why should I support something that I don't see being developed?

    It's all just promises.

    Guild Wars 2 rewards are skins, it's not the gameplay. We are witnessing a very critical time in MMO market, where Devs try to appeal to every single one person, making the content trivial, accessible on-the-go, unrewarding, uninteresting.

    Good voice acting isn't content for me.

  • @googel.3278 said:

    @knomslayer.9457 said:

    @Westenev.5289 said:
    People seem to think the only way they can support Anet is by delving into their pockets. I don't think this is the case; the time you spend interacting with other players is just as valuable as the occasional 10 dollar note. It's difficult, after all, to play fractals, pvp or wvw on your own.

    Time, after all, is a valuable commodity. Unlike money, we can never get it back.

    I Disagree. Interacting with people in the internet isnt worth my time if i want to support a game. You are wrong but thats your opinion so yeah.

    Supporting a game doesnt mean spending your parents money endlessly, if you cant see the effects then it just shows how narrowminded this topic really is.

    Edit: I wonder why you keep creating the same topic with different titles, are you that desperate?

    Thats just your assumptions. No one is spending their money for no reason. If i saw a restaurant with no costumer ill go there and eat be happy and feel less hungry, at the same time im supporting and keep the restaurant from shutting down. Same applies to this situation. If you like something buy it at the same time youre supporting and keep the game running

  • Westenev.5289Westenev.5289 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited September 14, 2019

    @knomslayer.9457 said:

    @googel.3278 said:

    @knomslayer.9457 said:

    @Westenev.5289 said:
    People seem to think the only way they can support Anet is by delving into their pockets. I don't think this is the case; the time you spend interacting with other players is just as valuable as the occasional 10 dollar note. It's difficult, after all, to play fractals, pvp or wvw on your own.

    Time, after all, is a valuable commodity. Unlike money, we can never get it back.

    I Disagree. Interacting with people in the internet isnt worth my time if i want to support a game. You are wrong but thats your opinion so yeah.

    Supporting a game doesnt mean spending your parents money endlessly, if you cant see the effects then it just shows how narrowminded this topic really is.

    Edit: I wonder why you keep creating the same topic with different titles, are you that desperate?

    Thats just your assumptions. No one is spending their money for no reason. If i saw a restaurant with no costumer ill go there and eat be happy and feel less hungry, at the same time im supporting and keep the restaurant from shutting down. Same applies to this situation. If you like something buy it at the same time youre supporting and keep the game running

    ... congratulations, you probably just gave yourself food poisoning (in your analogy). Your "chef" probably prepared your angus (horsemeat) meal fresh from the microwave, which has been frozen for months and thawed out all night beside the week old (dead) lobster.

    If nobody visits a restaurant, or anywhere really, one should question the quality of service provided there. That's just common sense.

    Just be glad your analogy is irrelevant; Gw2 is by no means a run down restaurant nobody visits.

  • ArmoredVehicle.2849ArmoredVehicle.2849 Member ✭✭✭
    edited September 14, 2019

    In my opinion, This game had a lot of great opportunities however they were all missed due to the plague of lootboxes. As per the threads title, yes Spending money is supporting the game, but I'll never spend money in RNG boxes to do that and there are better and more meaningful ways to do that.

    I like collecting skins but I'm not going to do that standing in some place clicking black lion chests, that's not content but just a money sink. Content is when you are actively playing the game, ramming your shield or slashing your way in some dungeon/raid/area whatever and have a chance for some good loot, there's a difference obtaining an item that way over simply clicking chest and personally I find it more satisfying. Over the past month I've been playing GW1 pretty often and I've been enjoying it 3 times better than GW2 and the reason is simple, I was playing not paying to get something.

    If ANet released actual content and asked money for it, then I would be happy to pay. Again, GW1 did this quite well with 3 expansions and mini adventure packs, and I even bought about 8 character slots back in the day which I never regretted. On GW2 I can't even dream of spending any money on it, it's corrupted by the focus on the gem store, the only exception to that rule are expansion packs or something similar.

  • titje.2745titje.2745 Member ✭✭✭

    @InvaGir.9158 said:
    The game need to stay alive somehow right?!
    People get free content regardless yet they cry all day Anet are greedy

    they are greedy, its not normal (in my eyes) to let ppl gamble with real money just to get a skin from a black lion chest.
    a skin worth 5 euro max get put in rng box and ppl sometimes spend 50+ keys for the item. 1 key is €1,25 euro thats 62,50 euro for a skin.
    why everyone thinks this is normal? for millionairs its cheap. for that money i can buy 3 weeks drinks irl. or 1 skin in gw2..
    and about the free content, everyone have different taste of what they want. i dont care about story so even if its free i dont play it.
    i want skins and dyes or mount skins. (about story, its not my main language and difficult words) if i understand the whole text then maybe i like it.

    and gold to gems, how hard i try to make gold i cant. only rich ppl can make enough money.
    and with my rng i have to complete 8 maps for 1 key
    and then 1 in 26 keys i get a bonus slot. gl on gettings something nice.

    sure i spend money in this game if i want an upgrade, and i will pay for deluxe edition but some rng based skins makes me angry because i CANT get it with normal gameplay. if i want it i have to buy gems with real money and thats what i will never do. i can control myself from that.

  • Vancho.8750Vancho.8750 Member ✭✭✭

    If only Anet put some ou i don't know special bundle like Valve does for Dota2 , where they say this money goes to development of this and that or that tournament with a goal post like Kickstarter. Then again it is probably little bit too late for that since most people that cared moved on after years of neglect.

  • castlemanic.3198castlemanic.3198 Member ✭✭✭✭

    I've spent money on this game. I'm not ashamed of the money I've spent even though it's been a lot relatively speaking. I'm glad to continue supporting this game with real money and I am actually excited about the future, Icebrood saga and whatever comes afterwards.

    I hate the lootboxes, they're predatory. But otherwise I'm fine with spending money on this game even if the developers choose to spend that money on other projects. I have confidence in Arenanet, even if many don't.

    Whataboutism is disingenuous at best. If you join a debate and provide little to no proof when the other side provides lots of evidence, you can't then declare yourself the winner of that debate.

  • Ashen.2907Ashen.2907 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @googel.3278 said:

    @knomslayer.9457 said:

    @googel.3278 said:

    @knomslayer.9457 said:

    @Westenev.5289 said:
    People seem to think the only way they can support Anet is by delving into their pockets. I don't think this is the case; the time you spend interacting with other players is just as valuable as the occasional 10 dollar note. It's difficult, after all, to play fractals, pvp or wvw on your own.

    Time, after all, is a valuable commodity. Unlike money, we can never get it back.

    I Disagree. Interacting with people in the internet isnt worth my time if i want to support a game. You are wrong but thats your opinion so yeah.

    Supporting a game doesnt mean spending your parents money endlessly, if you cant see the effects then it just shows how narrowminded this topic really is.

    Edit: I wonder why you keep creating the same topic with different titles, are you that desperate?

    Thats just your assumptions. No one is spending their money for no reason. If i saw a restaurant with no costumer ill go there and eat be happy and feel less hungry, at the same time im supporting and keep the restaurant from shutting down. Same applies to this situation. If you like something buy it at the same time youre supporting and keep the game running

    Have you ever wondered why a restaurant with no customers is failing? Poor hygiene, bad food/service? Now since you used a restaurant as an example, why is Guild Wars 2 failing? Poor content, false promises, compare that to when it was first released back in 2012, there was so much hype and potential, go way further back into Guild Wars 1 ( master piece ), the content they produced at that time was outstanding, now its just grinding achievement points, skins, skins and more skins. Can you tell me why skins are good content? Do you want to just show off your pixels and hope everybody you come across would kneel down to you like a god?

    There are many ways to support the game, not just by 'buying' rng lootboxes that have no meaning whatsoever. You're one of the people who are actively encouraging others to waste money on pointless things, do skins help me in battle? Of course not. Does that pointy shoulder pad make my stats more powerful? Omegalul.

    Skins that make one appreciate one's pretend character better are as meaningful as increased numbers on gear to help one in a pretend battle.

  • Fueki.4753Fueki.4753 Member ✭✭✭

    @Ashen.2907 said:
    Skins that make one appreciate one's pretend character better are as meaningful as increased numbers on gear to help one in a pretend battle.

    I very much appreciate my base game armour and weapon skins.

    I'd enjoy some gem store costumes more, if they were cut into armour pieces across all three weight categories.
    But Arenanet repeatedly stated they don't want to do that.

  • My thing with the title is exactly the reason with the players problem. Back then when you bought a game there was no dlc. There was no loot boxes, skins. You know what game devs did to get money? They made another game. So why can’t arenanet just make an expansion to get more money? Because people choose to buy skins yet arenanet given all this money has nothing to show.... wait we have story guys. We are getting true content.

    I understand it’s a mmo so it’s different and we have to keep servers up. What I do not understand is why mount skins are $25 and that’s $5 away from buying the whole game now. But saying buying skins support the game? Look arenanet has given free content for almost 2 years and people given more than the amount than pof and hot combined. They Still made profit from no expansion. But do we get content? No. We have story, a delayed Swiss tournament for 5 months. Wvw alliances been delayed for 2 years. No elite specs. No new fractal. No new raid. But arenanet says build templates is expansion content. 0_0. In gw1 it was a main feature that was (base) game. Non expansion feature. Arenanets views are horrible to the community. What we pay for arenanet is more then what arenanet has given back to the community. So should the community pay for gem store items because it supports arenanet? No. Unless arenanet gives more content then story, maps achievements, legendary weapon, mount in 1 episode. we should not support.

  • Dante.1508Dante.1508 Member ✭✭
    edited September 15, 2019

    It depends on the person and their funds imo, supporting the game is fine as long as customers see their money being put back into the game properly.. I will say though skins and customization are nice but its not what i consider game support additions.

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