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What is your opinion about Jormag's gender?

Gopaka.7839Gopaka.7839 Member ✭✭✭
edited September 2, 2019 in Guild Wars 2 Discussion

Many players, including Wooden Potatoes, have this theory of Jormag being female because of the voice that was having in the new saga cinematic. What do you think... do you agree or disagree with this theory ? I would like to hear the Arena Net devs confirming on this one so we can stop analyzing every bit of a detail.
Edit: Because of the many given opinions so far I would like to add. I'm not asking about what sex organs Jormag is having, because a lot of players are having mixed opinion on this subject and escalate and give quite the abstract thinking. I'm asking about what gender does Jormag represent in your opinion given the new saga cinematic? Is it giving you a male or a female characteristics.

What is your opinion about Jormag's gender? 163 votes

Jormag is a male.
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Jormag is a female.
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I am still wondering...
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  • Gopaka.7839Gopaka.7839 Member ✭✭✭
    edited September 2, 2019
    Jormag is a male.

    My opinion --> I personally think Jormag is male and Arena Net gave him a manipulative, mysterious voice... a bit sexy at points... purposely. He want's to manipulate all and thus consume them, call them in his icy, cold trap. Also from time to time he sounds maniac where he shows his true color. After all... we had Modremoth, who had this monstrous voice of an entity that was consuming everything. We had Kralkatorrik which had voice of an old man, who is tired of living. So what is your opinion on all of that?

  • Gopaka.7839Gopaka.7839 Member ✭✭✭
    edited September 2, 2019
    Jormag is a male.

    @Dayra.7405 said:
    None

    Dragons are Mono-sexual. Glint produced (at least) 2 eggs, but there was never a word about fertilization.

    Can you show me information on this ?
    Also as far as I remember Glint produced huge amount of eggs in Guild Wars 1
    https://i.ytimg.com/vi/fvM2fnKZ8xg/maxresdefault.jpg
    Also if there was no fertilization how do you explain Aurene having, Kralkatorrik as a grandfather ?

  • Danikat.8537Danikat.8537 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited September 2, 2019
    I am still wondering...

    We know almost nothing about the Elder Dragons biology. We know Kralkatorrik at some point had at least 1 child, who laid a clutch of eggs (at least 2 of which hatched), but we don't know if either Glint or her offspring had a second parent or who/what that was if they did. We know the Pale Tree grew from a seed which is assumed to have come from Mordremoth, and then produced hundreds of asexual children (the sylvari) but again there is no mention of a second parent in either case. We also don't know if the Elder Dragons are actually one species or all different ones, so it might be that what one can do has no bearing on the others.

    What we do know is that all the Elder Dragons eat magic, preferably it seems 'pure' raw magic which can be extremely dangerous to the player races and many other lifeforms on Tyria, they live for thousands of years going through a cycle of awakening and hibernation, they have magical powers unlike those we're familiar with including the ability to convert the land around them to their ideal habitat just by being there (or even flying over it in Kralkatorrik's case) and many of them - Jormag included - look more similar to elementals than biological creatures.

    In other words there is no reason to think these creatures are anything like us, certainly not that their voice can tell us their gender. Outside of humans real-life reproductive biology can get absurdly complicated, from clown fish who change from male to female when their group needs it, to snails who are all hermaphrodites (typically the biggest of the two will lay the eggs, but not always) to plants who can produce seeds through sexual reproduction with the help of insects, or can fertilise their own seeds if necessary or can produce an offshoot which is effectively a clone that will grow into an independent plant. So even looking at real-life there's many more options for non-human creatures than just male or female. Add in mythology and we get even more options - creatures that just come into being with no parent of any kind, or stories like the Godess Athena being born from a thought in Zeus's head as a fully grown adult, in armour.

    On a slightly different note Glint, Vlast, Aurene and the Pale Tree all use male or female pronouns but that may be something they adopted when talking to other races, especially Aurene who I seem to remember the Commander calls 'she' as soon as she's born. I'd be interested to know if that carries over to other languages, since it's often raised as a limitation of English that a person must be referred to as 'he' or 'she'. 'It' is technically gender neutral but also implies the subject is not a person, so it's considered rude to use it for a person. 'They' is catching on (e.g. you'll often see people on forums call another poster 'they' if they don't know if they're male or female) but can look awkward in some sentences so the writers may have decided to assign pronouns to the dragons and the Pale Tree for simplicity when writing dialogue involving them. Or something the dragons chose as a way of making themselves seem more familiar and approachable.

    (On a very different note if Jormag is female, non-binary, asexual, something unique to dragons, or anything except male I really want to see how the Sons of Svanir react.)

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  • Danikat.8537Danikat.8537 Member ✭✭✭✭
    I am still wondering...

    @Zeefa.3915 said:
    I believe Dayra is correct. At least to some extend. Glint didn't have a mate.
    Honestly though I don't care, gender may matter in some cases, but for big ancient dragon entities, it doesn't really. In my opinion anyway.

    To be more precise Glint has never mentioned a mate, she hasn't explicitly said there wasn't one.

    The way my cousin talks about her son you could believe he never had a father if you didn't know that's not possible. She'll talk about being pregnant and having the baby but there will never be any hint that a man was involved at any point. She has good reason for that, and I'll respect her desire to never again acknowledge his existence, but it doesn't change the fact that she couldn't have had a baby without a man.

    It's possible Glint is in a similar situation. Aurene called Kralkatorrik her grandfather, not her father, meaning he's not Glint's mate (not in a 12+ game anyway) so if sexual reproduction was involved there had to be another dragon and she may just choose to never talk about him for some reason. Or it could be that dragons don't need a partner to reproduce.

    Maybe they are more similar to elementals than organic beings and they create their offspring through magic, with the eggs/seeds being a way of delaying the 'birth' until an appropriate time.

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    "I know that I'm born and I know that I'll die, the in-between is mine."

  • I am still wondering...

    I think Jormag is both. They... im using they. They can choose to be a male or female. Ever heard of gender dysphoria? Yeah thats it.

  • Kumouta.4985Kumouta.4985 Member ✭✭✭

    No gender nor sex

  • Gopaka.7839Gopaka.7839 Member ✭✭✭
    Jormag is a male.

    @Danikat.8537 said:
    It's possible Glint is in a similar situation. Aurene called Kralkatorrik her grandfather, not her father, meaning he's not Glint's mate (not in a 12+ game anyway) so if sexual reproduction was involved there had to be another dragon and she may just choose to never talk about him for some reason. Or it could be that dragons don't need a partner to reproduce.

    Maybe they are more similar to elementals than organic beings and they create their offspring through magic, with the eggs/seeds being a way of delaying the 'birth' until an appropriate time.

    In my opinion as huge and magical creatures the elder dragons are... they are flying lizards after all and they do lay eggs, and thus those eggs must be fertilized, that's how things work irl. But I can agree on that, that this is fiction and everything is possible... but... even without having sex organs, the dragons still represent a gender, and the question of this topic is what gender does Jormag represent in your opinion.
    Side note: I think the Pail Tree is actually an elder dragon. Not sure if Mordremoth is her father or mating partner. Cannot wait to see more lore on that in the future.

  • Ayakaru.6583Ayakaru.6583 Member ✭✭✭✭
    I am still wondering...

    Fourth option, elder dragons are elder dragons. They're of neither gender.
    The only dragon we can argue had a gender, would be kralkatorrik

    To defeat the dragons, see the good in them.
    Zhaitan reunites lost ones, primordus creates fertile land, mordremoth spreads the green, and jormag..
    ..jormag? Who's that?

  • Gopaka.7839Gopaka.7839 Member ✭✭✭
    Jormag is a male.

    Edited the question on the top, giving a bit more specific question.

  • Gopaka.7839Gopaka.7839 Member ✭✭✭
    Jormag is a male.

    Can we simplify things just once without adding all the colors of the rainbow when there is a topic about male and female characteristics? Just for once put your thought on a scale and decide how does Jormag voice and vibes seem to you, without staying in the middle? More of the feminine side or more of the masculine? Also English is not my native language, so I'm simplifying things just with male/female... do not hate for that please.

  • Tekoneiric.6817Tekoneiric.6817 Member ✭✭✭✭

    I think they are most likely physically female and capable of parthenogenesis but their gender might independent of their physical anatomy.

  • Elder Dragons seem to be primordial forces that don't have the concept of gender. They don't have concepts mortals have to begin with, as we learned with Kralkatorrik.

    Also, are we sure that is really Jormag's voice? Maybe Jormag has a herald.

  • Gopaka.7839Gopaka.7839 Member ✭✭✭
    Jormag is a male.

    @Dayra.7405 said:
    Hm,

    • Kraikatorik and Glint and Aurene are (magically animated) Crystals, did you ever discussed the sex of a diamond?
    • Mordremorth was a plant, plants are usually both
    • Zhaitan was undead, undead usually don't reproduce, but come into existence when something alive die.

    Jormag seems to be a mixture of a snow-Crystal and a blizzard, do blizzards really have sex?

    Dragons are living creatures no matter from what they are made, and they do have relationships between one another... for example Aurene having a mother, brother, grandfather. Aurene and Glint were referred as "she", and Kralkatorrik and Vlast as "he". Also we do not know how dragons get their natural elements. While being an egg there can be a lot of things happening. From the start the dragon inside of the egg may be neutral dragon and while growing and developing inside the egg, it may get the his/her element from which it's built up while consuming the magic surrounding the egg, thus one element gets stronger from the others and the dragon now is having a distinct element, just like a fetus developes gender in it's 2nd month.

  • Gopaka.7839Gopaka.7839 Member ✭✭✭
    Jormag is a male.

    @ClickToKill.8473 said:
    Elder Dragons seem to be primordial forces that don't have the concept of gender. They don't have concepts mortals have to begin with, as we learned with Kralkatorrik.

    Also, are we sure that is really Jormag's voice? Maybe Jormag has a herald.

    I think that's Jormag's voice, just like sylvaries were hearing Mordremoth's voice.

  • Dayra.7405Dayra.7405 Member ✭✭✭
    edited September 2, 2019

    @Gopaka.7839 said:
    for example Aurene having a mother, brother, grandfather.

    That's our thinking/speaking about them, not necessarily their reality.
    We are a just bit limited in our language and thinking with respect to animated natural forces (dragons) or Gods.
    In the end all this is only a metaphor or analogy, that has it's clear limits.

  • Elder Dragons don't really speak though. If it is Jormag's voice, then its either an amplification of the corrupting whispers or Jormag is speaking through one of its servants. Mordremoth was able to speak through telepathy, Zhaitan spoke through its servants, and Kralkatorrik only spoke through its conscience.

    I personally think it would make sense to have a strong villain that is aligned with Jormag as part 1 of this story. I would be completely disappointed if Jormag just appeared to be slain within what would be a LW season span. Think about it. This could be the "Scarlet Briar"-type character leading Jormag's march south. Could be a female Koda, could be male Norn, etc.

  • Randulf.7614Randulf.7614 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @ClickToKill.8473 said:
    Elder Dragons seem to be primordial forces that don't have the concept of gender. They don't have concepts mortals have to begin with, as we learned with Kralkatorrik.

    Also, are we sure that is really Jormag's voice? Maybe Jormag has a herald.

    They confirmed it was Jormag on one of the writers twitter replies and that Jormag is non binary

    What sleep is here? What dreams there are in the unctuous coiling of the snakes mortal shuffling. weapon in my hand. My hand the arcing deathblow at the end of all things. The horror. The horror. I embrace it. . .

  • Neither... just female/male as options is too narrow!

  • Mea.5491Mea.5491 Member ✭✭✭✭

    I don't care, lol. Gender doesn't matter to me.

  • Danikat.8537Danikat.8537 Member ✭✭✭✭
    I am still wondering...

    @Gopaka.7839 said:
    Can we simplify things just once without adding all the colors of the rainbow when there is a topic about male and female characteristics? Just for once put your thought on a scale and decide how does Jormag voice and vibes seem to you, without staying in the middle? More of the feminine side or more of the masculine? Also English is not my native language, so I'm simplifying things just with male/female... do not hate for that please.

    I'm a behavioural biologist so I've had years of people teaching me not to think that way; that I should never assume an animal is male or female or in charge of a group or happy or sad or anything else just because something about it reminds me of how humans act. (And with good reason, we've wasted a lot of time and research trying to force the evidence to fit incorrect assumptions like 'the smaller ones must be female' or 'the leader of the group is male' because for a long time people refused to believe that how humans act isn't universal). By now it's habit for me, it almost wouldn't occur to me to say that because the voice actor they got for Jormag sounds female the dragon must be female.

    Plus I think the conversation is more interesting if we consider other options too. One of the things which makes Elder Dragons interesting is they aren't human and they aren't 'just' flying lizards, they're something different from what you see in most games or stories. If that only goes as far as their appearance and then they act just like humans they become a lot more boring.

    But my answer is still: we don't know. I agree that the voice actor in that video sounded like a woman, but I don't think that's enough to go on.

    @Randulf.7614 said:

    @ClickToKill.8473 said:
    Elder Dragons seem to be primordial forces that don't have the concept of gender. They don't have concepts mortals have to begin with, as we learned with Kralkatorrik.

    Also, are we sure that is really Jormag's voice? Maybe Jormag has a herald.

    They confirmed it was Jormag on one of the writers twitter replies and that Jormag is non binary

    Do you have a link to that? I've never been able to make sense of Twitter, half the time I can't re-find a tweet from someone I follow, so I don't like my chances of going looking for this one, but I'd like to see exactly what they said.

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  • Randulf.7614Randulf.7614 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited September 2, 2019

    @Danikat.8537 said:
    Do you have a link to that? I've never been able to make sense of Twitter, half the time I can't re-find a tweet from someone I follow, so I don't like my chances of going looking for this one, but I'd like to see exactly what they said.

    I'll highlight this as well since it ties in with this thread's poll (even though I think it is a grave mistake to be thinking of ED's as "people")

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  • ProtoGunner.4953ProtoGunner.4953 Member ✭✭✭✭
    I am still wondering...

    I am not sure if these forces of nature have a gender at all? Don't think in settled things, everything is fluid. But most would say: well it's a huge dragon with a deep voice, hence male... tropes, tropes everywhere!

  • Teratus.2859Teratus.2859 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited September 2, 2019

    Whether Dragons have gender or not is completely irrelevant since they all seem to reproduce asexually regardless of how masculine or feminine their voice/personalities are.

    I like the casting choice on Jormag's voice personally, it gives Jormag this manipulative, devious pressence which is exactly what it's personality type is.
    Jormag prefers to corrupt it's minions through manipulation rather than just straight up twist and enslave them with magic like Kralkatorrik or Zhaitan, and with Mordremoth's magic too I love the idea that Jormag has become even more intelligent and manipulative as a result.

    Personally though this whole gender discussion thing is a bad idea imo, specially in todays political climate and I hope the devs distance themselves from it because I am already seeing a lot of people projecting their preferred genders on this dragon and that is guaranteed to lead to a lot of arguing and fighting in the long run which is only going to hurt the friendly nature of this game's community.
    We all know how much of a no win situation that will be for Anet if they suddonly find themselves with multiple groups of angry people demanding they confirm Jormag is male, female, non binery, etc etc etc.. and once they open that door that kitten will be a constant recurring thing every single time a new Dragon comes into the story.

  • Randulf.7614Randulf.7614 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Teratus.2859 said:
    Whether Dragons have gender or not is completely irrelevant since they all seem to reproduce asexually regardless of how masculine or feminine their voice/personalities are.

    I like the casting choice on Jormag's voice personally, it gives Jormag this manipulative, devious pressence which is exactly what it's personality type is.
    Jormag prefers to corrupt it's minions through manipulation rather than just straight up twist and enslave them with magic like Kralkatorrik or Zhaitan, and with Mordremoth's magic too I love the idea that Jormag has become even more intelligent and manipulative as a result.

    Personally though this whole gender discussion thing is a bad idea imo, specially in todays political climate and I hope the devs distance themselves from it because I am already seeing a lot of people projecting their preferred genders on this dragon and that is guaranteed to lead to a lot of arguing and fighting in the long run which is only going to hurt the friendly nature of this game's community.
    We all know how much of a no win situation that will be for Anet if they suddonly find themselves with multiple groups of angry people demanding they confirm Jormag is male, female, non binery, etc etc etc.. and once they open that door that kitten will be a constant recurring thing every single time a new Dragon comes into the story.

    It'll be fine since Anet have already answered the question and said further elaboration will appear in the story (see above tweets)

    What sleep is here? What dreams there are in the unctuous coiling of the snakes mortal shuffling. weapon in my hand. My hand the arcing deathblow at the end of all things. The horror. The horror. I embrace it. . .

  • Taygus.4571Taygus.4571 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Randulf.7614 said:

    @Danikat.8537 said:
    Do you have a link to that? I've never been able to make sense of Twitter, half the time I can't re-find a tweet from someone I follow, so I don't like my chances of going looking for this one, but I'd like to see exactly what they said.

    I'll highlight this as well since it ties in with this thread's poll (even though I think it is a grave mistake to be thinking of ED's as "people")

    This seems the most fitting to me anyway.

    They are sexless beings. They have no biological sex. But are intelligent enough to understand gender.
    It makes sense that the more they interact with humans/peoples/races etc. the more likely they are to define their gender in such terms.

  • Danikat.8537Danikat.8537 Member ✭✭✭✭
    I am still wondering...

    Now I really want to know how the Sons of Svanir will handle this information.

    In a way it should fit with their view that Jormag is Dragon and a Spirit of the Wild, since the other spirits are a representation of all animals of that species, not just the males or the females. But it seems like they've forgotten that Drakkar offered both Jora and Svanir his power, and the only reason she wasn't corrupted is she refused to accept it and now have this narrative that Jormag considers females unworthy and won't accept them so I can't imagine they'd be happy about Jormag being non-binary.

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  • Well, they can't be sexless since they (seem to) reproduce sexually. I bet they are hermaphroditic.

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  • Ryukai.6524Ryukai.6524 Member ✭✭
    edited September 2, 2019
    I am still wondering...

    @Dragon Priestess.9760 said:
    Well, they can't be sexless since they (seem to) reproduce sexually. I bet they are hermaphroditic.

    You can have egg laying species that consist of only females and are not hermaphroditic.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Mexico_whiptail

    edit: what is grammar

  • Ashantara.8731Ashantara.8731 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited September 2, 2019
    I am still wondering...

    While his voice is definitely what we consider "male" in our human world, it does have an androgynous touch to it.

    Since we know, though, that dragons do have genders - because Aurene and Glint have been referred to as "she" and Kralkatorrik as "grandfather" - it has to be one or the other. ;)

  • Trise.2865Trise.2865 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Elder Dragons are like Legendary Pokemon: genderless unless it matters.

    If we want ANet to step up their game, then we must step up ours.

  • Tzarakiel.7490Tzarakiel.7490 Member ✭✭✭
    edited September 2, 2019

    Doesn't matter. So far the gender of the dragons in the game has had no impact on the story. Why would Jormag be any different?

    PvP? What's that? Never heard of it.

  • Dragon Priestess.9760Dragon Priestess.9760 Member ✭✭✭
    edited September 2, 2019

    @Ryukai.6524 said:

    @Dragon Priestess.9760 said:
    Well, they can't be sexless since they (seem to) reproduce sexually. I bet they are hermaphroditic.

    You can have egg laying species that consist of only females and are not hermaphroditic.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Mexico_whiptail

    edit: what is grammar

    I have something to research today, Parthenogenesis!

    This is a new concept for me, so thanks for the information!

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  • Naxos.2503Naxos.2503 Member ✭✭✭

    They're force of nature, the only gender you can give them is purely grammatical.

  • Many players, including Wooden Potatoes, have this theory of Jormag being female because of the voice that was having in the new saga cinematic. What do you think... do you agree or disagree with this theory ?

    You forgot to ask, "do you think it matters in the least whether an elder dragon is male or female?" Aside from external factors (choice of voice actor, pronouns used in the writing, appellations used), how has has the story, Tyria, or the Commander been affected by the gender of Mordremoth, Zhaitan, Kralkatorrik, or even Aurene? Near as I can tell, it's been largely immaterial.

    To me, it's like "Mother Nature" -- there are sociological reasons to refer to nature as female, but no scientific importance in understanding "nature" in doing so.

    tl;dr I don't care if Jormag is voiced by a male or female VA, because I don't think it matters.

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  • Rico.6873Rico.6873 Member ✭✭✭

    Jormags gender is Draconic

  • Svennis.3852Svennis.3852 Member ✭✭✭
    edited September 2, 2019

    The VA has been confirmed to be a woman. As for Jormag in universe, I’m guessing they are androgynous or genderless. The voice acting is clearly warped and pitched down, sounding more masculine, feminine, or in between at different parts.

    If they are going with a more ambiguous or androgynous approach to Jor’s gender presentation, I’m all for it. It’s nice to have some variety in my eldritch abominations. They don’t all need to sound like deep voiced old men. :p

    Edit: speculation of course, but at most I feel the voice/gender presentation of Jormag at most may influence how the Sons of Svanir are received by them. I’d love to see Jormag laugh at their misogynistic ways before flash freezing them. ;)

  • Randulf.7614Randulf.7614 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Ashantara.8731 said:
    While his voice is definitely what we consider "male" in our human world, it does have an androgynous touch to it.

    Since we know, though, that dragons do have genders - because Aurene and Glint have been referred to as "she" and Kralkatorrik as "grandfather" - it has to be one or the other. ;)

    Need to stop using the "definitely" qualifier. I completely disagree - what may sound male to you does not to others. Myself included.

    Also, it can't be one or the other since the devs have already said Jormag is non-binary and the gender or gender references they used are merely narrative tools to help characterise the Dragons

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  • Batel.9206Batel.9206 Member ✭✭✭

    It's an Elder Dragon - like a force of nature. We give hurricanes names like Dorian or Katrina, but that doesn't mean we refer to those hurricanes as male or female. They're just...it. Similarly, an Elder Dragon is just an it.

    And, frankly, it doesn't matter. Though I would like to add that giving Jormag's voice that ambiguity is frightening, because it reinforces just how otherworldly an Elder Dragon really is. So well done on the voice actress! :D

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  • videoboy.4162videoboy.4162 Member ✭✭✭
    Jormag is a female.

    I voted for female presenting, because it's been confirmed that Jormag's VA is a woman.

  • Dayra.7405Dayra.7405 Member ✭✭✭
    edited September 2, 2019

    @videoboy.4162 said:
    I voted for female presenting, because it's been confirmed that Jormag's VA is a woman.

    So Siri & Co are female, too? ;)

    What's the gender of a robot building a robot? Or of a 3D-Printer printing a copy of itself?
    It's just the old-fashionedness of our language that let us classify everything as male/female.

  • Donari.5237Donari.5237 Member ✭✭✭✭

    I have no opinion, though that's not an option. Jormag's gender is flat-out irrelevant to me :) I hadn't even started to wonder until I saw this poll. I know ANet is pushing the story along so that the Elder Dragons are more than just forces of nature, but to me it still isn't something I think about in regards to them any more than I wonder if a hurricane or earthquake are male or female. Or a stampede of elephants -- there might be male and female elements inherent in the stampede, but the main concern is "is this going to trample important stuff?"

  • Elianora la blanche.1250Elianora la blanche.1250 Member ✭✭
    edited September 2, 2019
    Jormag is a female.

    Jormag seems to be female and I find that pretty ironic considering how machist the Svanir's sons are ^^

  • Taygus.4571Taygus.4571 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Elianora la blanche.1250 said:
    Jormag seems to be female and I find that pretty ironic considering how machist the Svanir's sons are ^^

    They've already said. Jormag is non-binary.

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