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  • Hi everyone, I am from Russia and really love GW2, I really want to communicate with my duzi in my native language, Thank you!

  • yoni.7015yoni.7015 Member ✭✭✭

    @Exstazik.5847 said:

    @yoni.7015 said:
    I think it would need to much money to translate the game into Russian and I don’t think there is really a need for it. Everyone should be able to understand English good enough to understand the game.

    NOBODY asking for a full game translation, please read the topic...People just ask for cyrrilic alphabet support so they can type in chat on their native language. Like german, french and spanish players do.

    And then others are asking for Arabic or Hebrew alphabet. I think the Latin alphabet is enough. It would look weird to have Cyrillic words in map chat or party chat.

  • Exstazik.5847Exstazik.5847 Member ✭✭
    edited September 28, 2019

    @yoni.7015 said:

    @Exstazik.5847 said:

    @yoni.7015 said:
    I think it would need to much money to translate the game into Russian and I don’t think there is really a need for it. Everyone should be able to understand English good enough to understand the game.

    NOBODY asking for a full game translation, please read the topic...People just ask for cyrrilic alphabet support so they can type in chat on their native language. Like german, french and spanish players do.

    And then others are asking for Arabic or Hebrew alphabet. I think the Latin alphabet is enough. It would look weird to have Cyrillic words in map chat or party chat.

    Why it's not look weird to have german/french/spanish in party and map chat all time then? Because it's on latin? But most ppl don't understand those languages too and everyone's fine with it. Me included.

  • It would be great if the game was localized into Russian, but we do not even hope for that. But people deserve the Cyrillic alphabet in the chat. People who participate in the life of the project, bring you profit and bring new players! Wrong action is not worthy of respect, but is a concrete answer. Inaction deserves only hatred and charity.

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  • yoni.7015yoni.7015 Member ✭✭✭
    edited September 28, 2019

    @Exstazik.5847 said:

    @yoni.7015 said:

    @Exstazik.5847 said:

    @yoni.7015 said:
    I think it would need to much money to translate the game into Russian and I don’t think there is really a need for it. Everyone should be able to understand English good enough to understand the game.

    NOBODY asking for a full game translation, please read the topic...People just ask for cyrrilic alphabet support so they can type in chat on their native language. Like german, french and spanish players do.

    And then others are asking for Arabic or Hebrew alphabet. I think the Latin alphabet is enough. It would look weird to have Cyrillic words in map chat or party chat.

    Why it's not look weird to have german/french/spanish in party and map chat all time then? Because it's on latin? But most ppl don't understand those languages too and everyone's fine with it. Me included.

    Because the letters are the same. Cyrillic letters look different than Latin letters. And if they would add Cyrillic they should also add Arabic and Hebrew. And then we have a map chat full of different alphabets. That would not be nice. So better not start with Cyrillic.

  • I have been waiting for the translation of my favorite game for so long: ('

  • yoni.7015yoni.7015 Member ✭✭✭

    @Exstazik.5847 said:

    @yoni.7015 said:

    @Exstazik.5847 said:

    @yoni.7015 said:

    @Exstazik.5847 said:

    @yoni.7015 said:
    I think it would need to much money to translate the game into Russian and I don’t think there is really a need for it. Everyone should be able to understand English good enough to understand the game.

    NOBODY asking for a full game translation, please read the topic...People just ask for cyrrilic alphabet support so they can type in chat on their native language. Like german, french and spanish players do.

    And then others are asking for Arabic or Hebrew alphabet. I think the Latin alphabet is enough. It would look weird to have Cyrillic words in map chat or party chat.

    Why it's not look weird to have german/french/spanish in party and map chat all time then? Because it's on latin? But most ppl don't understand those languages too and everyone's fine with it. Me included.

    Because the letters are the same. Cyrillic letters look different than Latin letters. And if they would add Cyrillic they should also add Arabic or and Hebrew. And then we have a map chat full of different alphabets. That would not be nice. So better not start with Cyrillic.

    So the main point for you is to " if letters are the same it's fine" even if you don't understand a single word in those letters? Ok, i got it.

    Yes. And the vast majority in Europe uses the Latin alphabet so on European servers Latin letters are just fine, no other alphabet needed.

  • We need Cyrillic!!!!

  • Hi! Playing this game 7 years! I hope u will answer us.

  • ugrakarma.9416ugrakarma.9416 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited September 28, 2019

    thats really not hard to code IF the chat system is based on Unicode; if not , its will be really a headache for the devs.

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  • ugrakarma.9416ugrakarma.9416 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited September 28, 2019

    @yoni.7015 said:
    Because the letters are the same. Cyrillic letters look different than Latin letters. And if they would add Cyrillic they should also add Arabic and Hebrew. And then we have a map chat full of different alphabets. That would not be nice. So better not start with Cyrillic.

    Cyrillic is basically another caligraphy for the same alphabet used in western countries, ......., hebrew, arabic and khanji is VERY different matter...
    inst something so "alien", is just another drawn.
    http://www.russianlessons.net/lessons/lesson1_alphabet.php

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  • yoni.7015yoni.7015 Member ✭✭✭

    @ugrakarma.9416 said:

    @yoni.7015 said:
    Because the letters are the same. Cyrillic letters look different than Latin letters. And if they would add Cyrillic they should also add Arabic and Hebrew. And then we have a map chat full of different alphabets. That would not be nice. So better not start with Cyrillic.

    Cyrillic is basically another caligraphy for the same alphabet used in western countries, ......., hebrew, arabic and khanji is VERY different matter...
    inst something so "alien", is just another drawn.
    http://www.russianlessons.net/lessons/lesson1_alphabet.php

    If it is basically the same alphabet then you should be fine with latin, right? So no need for Cyrillic.

  • Just do it, ArenaNet. We need Cyrillic. Thanks!

  • @Aeon.4583 said:

    @yoni.7015 said:

    What symbol Latin can offer to replace 'ь' or 'ъ'? What letters Latin have to replace 'й' and 'ё'? Is there any eqivalent to 'э' 'ы' 'щ' 'щ'? Answer is - none. Any language has it's grammar, and the lack of those letters, simply break the major understanding of language, if it will be written in translit. And it's simply mind blow. Cyrillic and Latin share some same-looking letters, but not the grammar.

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  • im hope for answer

  • TayraWhite.3218TayraWhite.3218 Member
    edited September 28, 2019

    Me and my friends very likes GuildWars 2! We from Russia. But our knowledge of English is very poor! :confounded:
    like my friends and I would like to better understand and dive into this wonderful and ambient game! Please add cyrillic!

  • I'm from Russia. Please enter the cyrillic into the game!

  • @Lauren.2968 said:

    @Inculpatus cedo.9234 said:
    You might find this thread enlightening (Dev responses): https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/discussion/comment/307741/#Comment_307741
    I believe it references the same video.

    Good luck.

    This topic (and dev response) was more about full translation. OK, i can understand, that translation of game its too much and not cost-effective at the moment. But we asking about Cyrillic, at least in guild chat and party. Its trivial feature in terms of implementation and the same time really essential.

    As I said.. it may seem trivial, but maybe its a triffle more work than we think and potentially not cost effective.

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  • Thank you Arena.net for GW2 I hope you will heed this message and uvidete the Cyrillic alphabet in the game. <3 =)

  • Sleepcount.4953Sleepcount.4953 Member
    edited September 28, 2019

    More info here https://youtu.be/xX6EQSBJbkA

    And here https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/discussion/88671/appeal-of-the-russian-speaking-community-guild-wars-2-to-arenanet-and-mike-zadorojny/p1

    Our fellow tyrians! You may not know that we, the Dredge, have our own, ancient and beautiful alphabet. It’s called Cyrillic.
    We really like to be participants of every activity in Tyria. So many letters, orders and instructions we have to write! Of course, most of us can understand and speak English pretty good. However, typing in English is a problem of another sort...
    Right now we have no Cyrillic support. Young Dredge get their fingers twisted, typing messages and instructions in English. Trying to directly adapt English letters to Cyrillic causes terrible headache!

    Molenin and Molachev did nothing to bring Cyrillic in Tyria… We don’t blame them much, though. We’re humbly waiting for better times.
    Surely you know some famous moles, who used to write in Cyrillic. There’s even a peak named after one of them: Dostoev!

    And even more! Famous moles like Molenosov,

    Baryshmolov (we don’t talk much about him),

    and even Mole Tolstoy

    all of them used Cyrillic as well.

    So now you may already understand what kind of request we have. With respect to memory of all famous moles of ancient times, we, the moles of present day, call you, fellow people, lords and ladies of Tyria, for help.
    The whole moletariat from Shiverpeaks to Maguuma jungle calls: «Mole or nothing!», «Ready or mole!»

    Help us bring the support of Cyrillic alphabet for all in Tyria!

    Thanks in advance for your extremely helpful attention to this matter.

    Respectfully yours,

    The Dredge (moles).


    A moment of being serious.

    Dear ArenaNet!

    Sixteen countries use Cyrillic everyday. In every part of the world you may find someone using it.
    We understand, of course, that full Russian translation is impossible for many reasons.
    However, with the greatest respect, and with deep love to Guild wars 2 game, we, the multicultural Cyrillic typing and writing society, ask you to let us use Cyrillic alphabet in GW2.
    We hope you may find our request worthy of consideration.

  • Moles calls!

  • Alexander Inoy, thank you!!! Arena Net, we love your game Guild Wars 2! Thank you for it! I learn English to understand the dialogues of the game. English is no longer a problem for me. We just need to have the possibility of using the Cyrillic alphabet, when we are talking with our friends in guild chat, wispers and etc. It's not so hard to do I think.

  • Johann Faust.3864Johann Faust.3864 Member
    edited September 28, 2019

    Hi! I'm from Russia. And I join this request. I...well, we...don't ask to translate all the content (though it would be very nice), English is not a problem at all! But we want to communicate in our native language, at least.

  • Randulf.7614Randulf.7614 Member ✭✭✭✭

    For those wanting or expecting an answer, remember it is the weekend and a lot of the studio will likely not be on shift or reading the forums until Monday (evening in Europe)

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  • Wait for answer...

  • Please, start Cyrillic support! It would help us a lot.

  • Hello guys, my name is Zaur and I'm from Russia too:3
    Gw2 is my favorite and best game in whole mmo-segment. But i'm very saddened, cause still not added cyrillic.
    I beg you, help us with this problem! It will be a great gift for all Russian speaking community:)
    From Russia with love <3

  • It would be great if the game was supported by the Russian Cyrillic alphabet, not to mention the localization, or at least modifications with the Russian folk language.
    I have been playing for a long time, but this is the first game where I went through the storyline from the wiki. At first I read the translation of this page in Google, like a book, then I opened the game and went through. And still I say that I like this game. I don’t like MMORPG games and I don’t like fantasy games, because I am a supporter of games like Starcraft, but guild Wars 2 has changed my mind about fantasy and it still remains my favorite MMORPG game, I don’t have any more.

  • I've been playing GW 2 almost since the beginning and it's always been my favorite game. And I would love to use Cyrillic in chat, as writing Russian text in English is very difficult! ANet, please support...

  • Ol Nik.2518Ol Nik.2518 Member ✭✭✭

    @Bloodstealer.5978 said:

    @WizarXD.9602 said:
    We demand an answer!

    Pretty sure they have already answered this request previously.
    It likely does not offer a viable financial return on the time and costs associated to bringing this to fruition.

    Could they utilise a some kind of 3rd party or player driven alternative, most likely , but that could risk opening a can of worms they just don't want to have to then jump in and sort out.

    Does it suck - yeah I guess it does for those affected
    Does it make sense from a business perspective - Unfortunately yes it does also.

    GW2 does not support Unicode, which is very strange in 2019 (or 2012 for that matter). I do understand that the game engine is dated. I also suppose that they use some custom libraries and have limited fonts. However, it would do the game a lot of good if developers used some of their time to add Unicode support.

    Unicode support allows to write and render texts in many different writing systems, including but not limited to Cyrillic, Arabic, Japanese and Chinese symbols. It might be a very good and cost-effective solution considering that GW2 is distributed in many countries around the world.

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  • Centuria.8127Centuria.8127 Member
    edited September 28, 2019

    The lack possibility of communication in your native language - very slows the dynamic gameplay... You are all understand - how sometimes important the speed reaction and rapidity action. But for some players to write something on "translit" - need to stay in place, and continuously look at the keyboard when they typing.

    Arena.net, please make us a New Year present - give the opportunity to typing text on cyrillic ^.^
    (suspire) And ... sorry for my perfect english ^.^

  • Im all for this, if theres an option included to automatically block / filter cyrillic out.
    This is a western MMO, and while this is going to sound mean, that is not the intent.

    while you hate having to talk in english, we hate having to look at hieroglyphs that make zero sense to anyone in the west who isnt born in or around russia.
    I had enough of that back in League of Legends, and you'll find that this is infact a western MMO, not a russian MMO, you've played well with others for this long, i see no reason to split the community now by entering in a lanquage alot of us simply don't understand.

    I know that sounds like a double standard, but i'll remind people again, this isn't a russian MMO, and Cyrillic was left out for a reason.

  • @Exstazik.5847 said:
    NOBODY asking for a full game translation, please read the topic...People just ask for cyrrilic alphabet support so they can type in chat on their native language. Like german, french and spanish players do.

    German french and spanish share the same alphabet, there in lies the difference.

  • Naxos.2503Naxos.2503 Member ✭✭✭
    edited September 28, 2019

    I dont use cyrrilic, but I personally can very well understand that not being able to use the Symbols to communicate within cyrrilic based languages is an issue. Translation is complicated, but making symbols available to type should not. I hope the devs lend you their ear. There is a non negligible population in Europe that does use Cyrrilic alphabet.

  • Ben K.6238Ben K.6238 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @yoni.7015 said:
    Because the letters are the same. Cyrillic letters look different than Latin letters. And if they would add Cyrillic they should also add Arabic and Hebrew. And then we have a map chat full of different alphabets. That would not be nice. So better not start with Cyrillic.

    Why would it "not be nice"? Particularly since there's already support for Hangul and (to some extent) traditional Chinese?

  • While I get the point of adding non Latin alphabets, I think it may bring quite some issues on the backends. As players will then also use different characters (as in letters/symbols) for player characters and guilds then (which most ppl cannot type easily). Not to mention LFG can also be flooded with letters nobody else can read (and we shouldn't exclude players that are not Russian from group content do we). It would also need a lot of dev work if it is even possible. And as someone mentioned the game is created by an American company which uses the Latin alphabet (with only NA/European servers).

    So I think you can better search for a solution outside of the game. A party like Discord could be a good one as it also has an overlay. I do not know if those do Cyrillic but I assume the Russian community may know of a similar thing that does support it. It can be used to chat with each other while playing the game and outside and you can use the speech as well. And it can be set up for the whole Russian community or for a guild seperatly. For the rest you would have to remain to English I am affraid. In most games this is a similar thing unless you have a server dedicated to Russia only (which is also out of scope financially and dev wise I think).

  • Acheron.4731Acheron.4731 Member ✭✭✭

    I think if ANET is willing to accept Russian money for gems, xpacs, etc...they should be willing to support our Russian comrades in their request.
    And this is coming from someone who is still a little upset about the whole Apollo Creed incident.
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  • PseudoNewb.5468PseudoNewb.5468 Member ✭✭✭
    edited September 29, 2019

    Just add unicode (UTF-8) support to the chatbox, and make sure it is using a font supported by the OS for unicode.

    Any existing text, just make sure to convert it to unicode before displaying and filter out any of the exotic characters that can mess up multiple lines of text, or any other character you don't like and call it a day.

    If one is worried about the word filter, I'm sure one can look up a list of look alike characters, and update the filter to detect substitute letters as well. I mean, they should be doing that even if the chat was only ascii, because you aren't going to keep track of every word that you can replace 'S' with '5' are you?

  • Hello. I'm Russian player. Please, start Cyrillic support

  • well, if the engine only supports iso-8859-15 (which covers almost all of western europe and latin america), adding support for other encodings can be pretty hard. utf8 is not just a sed job. Things break.

    And if the russian player base is not bringing in a ton of money, the work and risk is just not worth it.

  • Linken.6345Linken.6345 Member ✭✭✭✭

    And how do you propose to cover for the increased cost in support personel to read any request of support or accusation of harasment in Cyrillic?

  • Ashantara.8731Ashantara.8731 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited September 29, 2019

    @Linken.6345 said:
    And how do you propose to cover for the increased cost in support personel to read any request of support or accusation of harasment in Cyrillic?

    LOL! The alphabet does not matter, the language does. Since there is already Spanish and German support, it would be a matter of adding support personel that speaks Russian, regardless of the fact that the language uses its own alphabet (there are many variations of the Cyrillic alphabet across Eastern European countries, e.g. Bulgaria - where Cyrillic originates from - uses a slightly different alphabet than Russia, yet the languages differ a lot more than their alphabets, just like English isn't German, although we both use the Roman alphabet etc).

  • Linken.6345Linken.6345 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited September 29, 2019

    @Ashantara.8731 said:

    @Linken.6345 said:
    And how do you propose to cover for the increased cost in support personel to read any request of support or accusation of harasment in Cyrillic?

    LOL! The alphabet does not matter, the language does. Since there is already Spanish and German support, it would be a matter of adding support personel that speaks Russian, regardless of the fact that the language uses its own alphabet (there are many variations of the Cyrillic alphabet across Eastern European countries, e.g. Bulgaria - where Cyrillic originates from - uses a slightly different alphabet than Russia, yet the languages differ a lot more than their alphabets, just like English isn't German, although we both use the Roman alphabet etc).

    Ofcourse it do, its not supported now so is a 100% extra cost in personel.
    If someone report a player writing in cyrillic the people at anet looking at said report must understand what the player is typing right?

  • ^It's not going to happen for that very reason. As already stated by Devs.

  • +1 absoluetly

  • But Krytans don't use the latin alphabet for their words either, there's no reason dredge would use Cyrillic.

    Wait, hold on...

    Can we have New Krytan support?

    I wouldnt mind if Dredge then use their own Dredgabet.

  • Please add Cyrillic symbols :)

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