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What happened to this release's fractal?

The "schedule" for new fractals during se4 has been 1 new fractal every other lw release. The layoffs occured mid se4 (iirc before ep5) and sirens reef still launched on schedule.

The next episode was supposed, based on said schedule to drop with bound by blood, but it didnt. Was a reason communicated or was the schedule changed between ep6 and the prologue? And if so was that communicated?

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  • Obtena.7952Obtena.7952 Member ✭✭✭✭

    I've never seen Anet release a 'schedule' for anything ... so what you talking about?

    If you think balancing is only driven by performance and justified by comparisons to other classes then prepare to be educated:

    https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/balance-updates-the-heralds-near-future-and-pvp-league-season-13/

  • zealex.9410zealex.9410 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Vinceman.4572 said:
    There's no fixed schedule any longer. You still haven't realized that? The game isn't in a healthy state and the actual announcement of additional build & equipment templates costing money although they should have been in the game for years is the next clear indicator of things going terribly wrong with GW2.

    U mean u didnt know they would a paid feature? Please, even if the game was at its best they wouldnt miss this golden goose.

    But who am I talking to, you also haven't realized that strike missions are not 5 men content even though they named it 5-10 men which is just a cheap excuse of them.

    I did? It was the reason why i suggested the dificulty i did, it would be trivialised ij a 10man settup regardless.

  • zealex.9410zealex.9410 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Obtena.7952 said:
    I've never seen Anet release a 'schedule' for anything ... so what you talking about?

    Anet had stated that their fractal release schedule was (at least until bound by blood) 1 new fractal every other lw episode.

  • Blocki.4931Blocki.4931 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Vinceman.4572 said:
    There's no fixed schedule any longer. You still haven't realized that? The game isn't in a healthy state and the actual announcement of additional build & equipment templates costing money although they should have been in the game for years is the next clear indicator of things going terribly wrong with GW2.
    But who am I talking to, you also haven't realized that strike missions are not 5 men content even though they named it 5-10 men which is just a cheap excuse of them.

    I'm sure the few people who even care about templates are going to be fine with what they get.

    Bite me.

  • Obtena.7952Obtena.7952 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @zealex.9410 said:

    @Obtena.7952 said:
    I've never seen Anet release a 'schedule' for anything ... so what you talking about?

    Anet had stated that their fractal release schedule was (at least until bound by blood) 1 new fractal every other lw episode.

    Sure ... that's not a schedule though. I don't see a date.

    If you think balancing is only driven by performance and justified by comparisons to other classes then prepare to be educated:

    https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/balance-updates-the-heralds-near-future-and-pvp-league-season-13/

  • @Blocki.4931 said:

    @Vinceman.4572 said:
    There's no fixed schedule any longer. You still haven't realized that? The game isn't in a healthy state and the actual announcement of additional build & equipment templates costing money although they should have been in the game for years is the next clear indicator of things going terribly wrong with GW2.
    But who am I talking to, you also haven't realized that strike missions are not 5 men content even though they named it 5-10 men which is just a cheap excuse of them.

    I'm sure the few people who even care about templates are going to be fine with what they get.

    Those people were already using Arc templates (which will stop working when Anet templates get released, as part of the deal between Anet and Arc developer), so no, they won't be fine. In fact, they will find themselves with less options after this, not more.

    The whole point of a social game is to play with the people you want to play with, not be forced to play with the people you don't.

  • Blocki.4931Blocki.4931 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Astralporing.1957 said:

    @Blocki.4931 said:

    @Vinceman.4572 said:
    There's no fixed schedule any longer. You still haven't realized that? The game isn't in a healthy state and the actual announcement of additional build & equipment templates costing money although they should have been in the game for years is the next clear indicator of things going terribly wrong with GW2.
    But who am I talking to, you also haven't realized that strike missions are not 5 men content even though they named it 5-10 men which is just a cheap excuse of them.

    I'm sure the few people who even care about templates are going to be fine with what they get.

    Those people were already using Arc templates (which will stop working when Anet templates get released, as part of the deal between Anet and Arc developer), so no, they won't be fine. In fact, they will find themselves with less options after this, not more.

    I'm not sure how many template slots they need... why wouldn't 6 be sufficient? Do these people play 100 different builds and isn't the ability to store equipment convenient enough? That's a fraction of an already tiny minority, while everybody else only has to gain from this one way or another. I don't think anything of value is lost there.

    Bite me.

  • sokeenoppa.5384sokeenoppa.5384 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Blocki.4931 said:

    @Astralporing.1957 said:

    @Blocki.4931 said:

    @Vinceman.4572 said:
    There's no fixed schedule any longer. You still haven't realized that? The game isn't in a healthy state and the actual announcement of additional build & equipment templates costing money although they should have been in the game for years is the next clear indicator of things going terribly wrong with GW2.
    But who am I talking to, you also haven't realized that strike missions are not 5 men content even though they named it 5-10 men which is just a cheap excuse of them.

    I'm sure the few people who even care about templates are going to be fine with what they get.

    Those people were already using Arc templates (which will stop working when Anet templates get released, as part of the deal between Anet and Arc developer), so no, they won't be fine. In fact, they will find themselves with less options after this, not more.

    I'm not sure how many template slots they need... why wouldn't 6 be sufficient? Do these people play 100 different builds and isn't the ability to store equipment convenient enough? That's a fraction of an already tiny minority, while everybody else only has to gain from this one way or another. I don't think anything of value is lost there.

    Lets check few of my builds shall we.
    For my thief i have power dps DD build, power dps DE build, power dps DE rifle build, condi build, heal boon thief, diviner boon thief + open world builds and different wvw builds.
    My necro has power reaper, condition scourge and heal scourge.
    And those were just few, some of my classes has alot more builds.

    I'll have two number 9s, a number 9 large, a number 6 with extra dip, a number 7, two number 45s, one with cheese, and a large soda.

  • Nephalem.8921Nephalem.8921 Member ✭✭✭

    @Blocki.4931 said:

    @Astralporing.1957 said:

    @Blocki.4931 said:

    @Vinceman.4572 said:
    There's no fixed schedule any longer. You still haven't realized that? The game isn't in a healthy state and the actual announcement of additional build & equipment templates costing money although they should have been in the game for years is the next clear indicator of things going terribly wrong with GW2.
    But who am I talking to, you also haven't realized that strike missions are not 5 men content even though they named it 5-10 men which is just a cheap excuse of them.

    I'm sure the few people who even care about templates are going to be fine with what they get.

    Those people were already using Arc templates (which will stop working when Anet templates get released, as part of the deal between Anet and Arc developer), so no, they won't be fine. In fact, they will find themselves with less options after this, not more.

    I'm not sure how many template slots they need... why wouldn't 6 be sufficient? Do these people play 100 different builds and isn't the ability to store equipment convenient enough? That's a fraction of an already tiny minority, while everybody else only has to gain from this one way or another. I don't think anything of value is lost there.

    they split traits and gear and you get only one additional gear template. I couldnt care less about trait templates but swapping legendary armour with one click is huge. This implementation is just really bad and legendary armour loses lots of value with this. I can have infinite builds with arc now, the new version allows 2 and i get 6-8 backslots back for rune and trinkets. this is just a straight downgrade. Two Slots + additional slots per character is insanely bad.
    at least let me buy the whole thing with unlimited slots for 800gems. Thats 10€! You can buy entire games for this but they will probably charge this per slot per character

  • Miellyn.6847Miellyn.6847 Member ✭✭✭
    edited October 1, 2019

    @zealex.9410 said:

    @Obtena.7952 said:
    I've never seen Anet release a 'schedule' for anything ... so what you talking about?

    Anet had stated that their fractal release schedule was (at least until bound by blood) 1 new fractal every other lw episode.

    And we didn't had an episode since War Eternal. Bound by Blood was labled as Prologue, not Episode 1. So we are still on track and the next one should release with Episode 1 in November.

    Wording is important if you try to quote them on themselves.

  • Astralporing.1957Astralporing.1957 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited October 1, 2019

    @Blocki.4931 said:

    @Astralporing.1957 said:

    @Blocki.4931 said:

    @Vinceman.4572 said:
    There's no fixed schedule any longer. You still haven't realized that? The game isn't in a healthy state and the actual announcement of additional build & equipment templates costing money although they should have been in the game for years is the next clear indicator of things going terribly wrong with GW2.
    But who am I talking to, you also haven't realized that strike missions are not 5 men content even though they named it 5-10 men which is just a cheap excuse of them.

    I'm sure the few people who even care about templates are going to be fine with what they get.

    Those people were already using Arc templates (which will stop working when Anet templates get released, as part of the deal between Anet and Arc developer), so no, they won't be fine. In fact, they will find themselves with less options after this, not more.

    I'm not sure how many template slots they need... why wouldn't 6 be sufficient?

    Lemme check - my ranger has 5. My necro has 3. My mesmer has 6. That's for pve alone, btw, my necro, for example, has additional 3 builds for wvw.
    No, 2 per character is nowhere close enough. 6 (which seems to be the max) is already limiting, and i would need to pay for that. Per character.

    2 gear slots is barely enough to have a single PvE condi and power build each. If the class happens to do anything else (healing, support, tanking) or is running wvw (where you usually don't run pure glass), you're out of luck. As far as trait/skill setups go, you may end up running more power and/or condi setups than one (look at thief, for example - power DD and power DE are not the same, and you might want to have both trait setups)

    Do these people play 100 different builds and isn't the ability to store equipment convenient enough? That's a fraction of an already tiny minority, while everybody else only has to gain from this one way or another. I don't think anything of value is lost there.

    Like i said - pretty much anyone that would care about this QoL is already running multiple builds. And many of those people already use arc templates, so changing to Anet system will be a downgrade.

    That "fraction of a tiny minority" you speak of happens to be the target group for this so called "QoL". Everyone else will simply not care that it was introduced at all, as they won't be using it anyway.

    In such a case, who was that even meant for? Because, it seems, it is aimed at noone.

    The whole point of a social game is to play with the people you want to play with, not be forced to play with the people you don't.

  • Astralporing.1957Astralporing.1957 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited October 1, 2019

    (separate post, as i don't want to mix different discussions in one post)

    @Miellyn.6847 said:

    @zealex.9410 said:
    Anet had stated that their fractal release schedule was (at least until bound by blood) 1 new fractal every other lw episode.

    And we didn't had an episode since War Eternal. Bound by Blood was labled as Prologue, not Episode 1. So we are still on track and the next one should release with Episode 1 in November.

    Wording is important if you try to quote them on themselves.

    They already said that from season 5 on they will no longer be limited with any earlier preconceptions of what should be associated with episodes. Some people thought it means we'll be getting more, but it can as easily be understood as getting less.
    In this case, the fractal is that "less".

    The whole point of a social game is to play with the people you want to play with, not be forced to play with the people you don't.

  • Cyninja.2954Cyninja.2954 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Astralporing.1957 said:
    That "fraction of a tiny minority" you speak of happens to be the target group for this so called "QoL". Everyone else will simply not care that it was introduced at all, as they won't be using it anyway.

    In such a case, who was that even meant for? Because, it seems, it is aimed at noone.

    While I agree with everything you said, one also has to consider:

    With an ingame build temapltes system, chances are high that arc build templates will soon no longer be allowed.

    I literally just read up on the way build templates are suppoed to work, so I will wait until they are implemented until my final judgment. Personally I'm fine with additional costs for more slots if reasonable, but do wonder how legendary gear will be affected by this (and if it will be available to multiple characters if so). That would make legendary runes and sigils interesting again, and multiple sets of similar weight legendary armor obsolete.

    The main benefit for myself which I still look forward to is not having to wait for deltaconnected to have to update arc templates after each patch or having to double check if arc templates forgot to change some gear. The main drawback is as you and others mentioned: less QoL for people already using arc temps and higher cost.

  • Astralporing.1957Astralporing.1957 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Cyninja.2954 said:
    I literally just read up on the way build templates are suppoed to work, so I will wait until they are implemented until my final judgment. Personally I'm fine with additional costs for more slots if reasonable, but do wonder how legendary gear will be affected by this (and if it will be available to multiple characters if so). That would make legendary runes and sigils interesting again, and multiple sets of similar weight legendary armor obsolete.

    We'll probably see tomorrow, but from what i understand, no, single piece of legendary gear will not be available for multiple characters (basically, due to some problems they've run into, gear templates for each character are completely independent, and can share gear only for the same character).
    My reading to this is that it will make the QoL of legendary armor and runes drop, not rise (and considering that runes were already quite close to rock bottom for their usefulness compared to price...)
    Maybe i am wrong. I definiely hope i am - we'll see tomorrow i guess.

    The whole point of a social game is to play with the people you want to play with, not be forced to play with the people you don't.

  • zealex.9410zealex.9410 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Miellyn.6847 said:

    @zealex.9410 said:

    @Obtena.7952 said:
    I've never seen Anet release a 'schedule' for anything ... so what you talking about?

    Anet had stated that their fractal release schedule was (at least until bound by blood) 1 new fractal every other lw episode.

    And we didn't had an episode since War Eternal. Bound by Blood was labled as Prologue, not Episode 1. So we are still on track and the next one should release with Episode 1 in November.

    Wording is important if you try to quote them on themselves.

    The prologue is pretty much only diff in name alone, the update came with pretty much everything that lw episodes come out with (events, a map, story, collections etc). It also took compairable time to a normal episode to ship (abit over 3 months iirc) so we are looking at another 2 months on top of that for something new for the fractal crowd and thats wishful thinking because they didnt set the cadence for the saga.

    If the Nov release is accurate we will be looking at a 9 month w8 for a new fractal.

  • Vinceman.4572Vinceman.4572 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @zealex.9410 said:
    If the Nov release is accurate we will be looking at a 9 month w8 for a new fractal.

    Which is fine if they'll release more than another fractal or raid. I only see/hear devastating decisions and doubt that people will leave enough money in the gem shop be it with or without templates to keep maintaining the game in its previous or current state. Guess we shouldn't be surprised to read about the next layoffs in 2020.

  • zealex.9410zealex.9410 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Vinceman.4572 said:

    @zealex.9410 said:
    If the Nov release is accurate we will be looking at a 9 month w8 for a new fractal.

    Which is fine if they'll release more than another fractal or raid.

    I dont think its fine because thats 9 months of nothing for these ppl in a game with very limited replayability.

  • Vinceman.4572Vinceman.4572 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @zealex.9410 said:

    @Vinceman.4572 said:

    @zealex.9410 said:
    If the Nov release is accurate we will be looking at a 9 month w8 for a new fractal.

    Which is fine if they'll release more than another fractal or raid.

    I dont think its fine because thats 9 months of nothing for these ppl in a game with very limited replayability.

    Of course it's not. That is what my post is saying. The whole thing is more in a mess than it was months or one year ago and even then it was inacceptable. What I'm trying to say to you: It's getting worse and there's absolutely no sign or evidence that it'll get better soon/ever. That's all you have to realize.

  • zealex.9410zealex.9410 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Vinceman.4572 said:

    @zealex.9410 said:

    @Vinceman.4572 said:

    @zealex.9410 said:
    If the Nov release is accurate we will be looking at a 9 month w8 for a new fractal.

    Which is fine if they'll release more than another fractal or raid.

    I dont think its fine because thats 9 months of nothing for these ppl in a game with very limited replayability.

    Of course it's not. That is what my post is saying. The whole thing is more in a mess than it was months or one year ago and even then it was inacceptable. What I'm trying to say to you: It's getting worse and there's absolutely no sign or evidence that it'll get better soon/ever. That's all you have to realize.

    Im aware theres no sign of improvement i was just curious if it was communicated that the fractal wouldnt drop with this episode or not, not gonna lose sleep or game time elsewhere over it.

  • Asum.4960Asum.4960 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited October 1, 2019

    @Blocki.4931 said:

    @Astralporing.1957 said:

    @Blocki.4931 said:

    @Vinceman.4572 said:
    There's no fixed schedule any longer. You still haven't realized that? The game isn't in a healthy state and the actual announcement of additional build & equipment templates costing money although they should have been in the game for years is the next clear indicator of things going terribly wrong with GW2.
    But who am I talking to, you also haven't realized that strike missions are not 5 men content even though they named it 5-10 men which is just a cheap excuse of them.

    I'm sure the few people who even care about templates are going to be fine with what they get.

    Those people were already using Arc templates (which will stop working when Anet templates get released, as part of the deal between Anet and Arc developer), so no, they won't be fine. In fact, they will find themselves with less options after this, not more.

    I'm not sure how many template slots they need... why wouldn't 6 be sufficient? Do these people play 100 different builds and isn't the ability to store equipment convenient enough? That's a fraction of an already tiny minority, while everybody else only has to gain from this one way or another. I don't think anything of value is lost there.

    Let me look at my Guardian.

    DH Power DPS (Raids/Fractals), FB condition DPS (Raids), Condition Quickbrand (Raids), Power Quickbrand (Fractals), Harrier Healbrand (Raids), Harrier/Magi Healbrand (Fractals), different versions for Virtues and Radiance for Healbrand, Minstrel Tank Healbrand (Raids), Open World FB (OW), Zerg FB (WvW), Roaming FB (WvW), Core Guard (PvP/WvW), Sup Bunker FB (PvP), Hybrid FB (PvP), are some of the essentials, plus about 5-8 more very niche builds/fun therorycrafted builds I sometimes play and iterate on.

    That's one character in Arc currently, with other professions having at least 5-10 builds as well.

    Now sure, as a Theorycrafter and build maker, I'm niche in that regard, but even if I shave of all of those experimental build's I'm having fun with, even if I get rid of all the maximisation between Raids and Fractals (where I get extra stats from Fractal potions/AR) and play inefficient builds in one game mode instead, these charged templates are still going to cost me a fortune compared to the completely free Arc I've been using and relying on to enjoy the game for multiple years now.

    For storing gear, yes that nice, but I have Legendary Armor on everything I play frequently/have a lot of builds on, so that's really not going to change much for me, and this system is going to screw me over hard otherwise.

    I'm expecting to drop half the content I play at this point, since I won't be bothered to manually swap all my gear and build just to hop into some Open World or WvW to have some fun, modes I already struggle to find enjoyment in if it wasn't for the interesting builds I tend to swap to there, and I will probably still be expected to drop over a hundred euros or multiple thousands of gold to get just room for my most essential builds across all characters for the content I enjoy most.
    Having to pay a presumably large amount of money (knowing the gemstore pricing) to get the same or less QoL back I enjoyed for years for free, just with nice HuD Integration, won't feel great.

    But as an invested veteran player, it's not exactly the first time I've felt not exactly valued, so maybe you are right there and they share that opinion of nothing of value is lost by dismantling their endgame player base bit by bit by bit.

    R.I.P. Build Templates, 15.10.2019

  • vyncius.6105vyncius.6105 Member ✭✭✭

    @Obtena.7952 said:

    @zealex.9410 said:

    @Obtena.7952 said:
    I've never seen Anet release a 'schedule' for anything ... so what you talking about?

    Anet had stated that their fractal release schedule was (at least until bound by blood) 1 new fractal every other lw episode.

    Sure ... that's not a schedule though. I don't see a date.

    you are too white knight to understand. That was officialy stated by anet, 1 fractal every other episode. Which is like every 6-7 months.

  • Obtena.7952Obtena.7952 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited October 1, 2019

    @vyncius.6105 said:

    @Obtena.7952 said:

    @zealex.9410 said:

    @Obtena.7952 said:
    I've never seen Anet release a 'schedule' for anything ... so what you talking about?

    Anet had stated that their fractal release schedule was (at least until bound by blood) 1 new fractal every other lw episode.

    Sure ... that's not a schedule though. I don't see a date.

    you are too white knight to understand. That was officialy stated by anet, 1 fractal every other episode. Which is like every 6-7 months.

    If you think you can set your watch to anything Anet has said where they never gave a date, you just haven't been paying attention. That's not white knighting at all ... it's called 'observation' and 'reality'. I know what Anet said and if the numbers don't justify another fractal ... or something causes it to be late, then that's EXPECTED. That's exactly what you DON'T see them give you a date.

    If you think balancing is only driven by performance and justified by comparisons to other classes then prepare to be educated:

    https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/balance-updates-the-heralds-near-future-and-pvp-league-season-13/

  • zealex.9410zealex.9410 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Obtena.7952 said:

    @vyncius.6105 said:

    @Obtena.7952 said:

    @zealex.9410 said:

    @Obtena.7952 said:
    I've never seen Anet release a 'schedule' for anything ... so what you talking about?

    Anet had stated that their fractal release schedule was (at least until bound by blood) 1 new fractal every other lw episode.

    Sure ... that's not a schedule though. I don't see a date.

    you are too white knight to understand. That was officialy stated by anet, 1 fractal every other episode. Which is like every 6-7 months.

    If you think you can set your watch to anything Anet has said where they never gave a date, you just haven't been paying attention. That's not white knighting at all ... it's called 'observation' and 'reality'. I know what Anet said and if the numbers don't justify another fractal ... or something causes it to be late, then that's EXPECTED. That's exactly what you DON'T see them give you a date.

    They dont give date for lw either but will let you know if someone gets delayed.

  • Linken.6345Linken.6345 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Can you pull up a source on were they said fractal will come with evey other living story release?

  • Obtena.7952Obtena.7952 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited October 2, 2019

    @zealex.9410 said:

    @Obtena.7952 said:

    @vyncius.6105 said:

    @Obtena.7952 said:

    @zealex.9410 said:

    @Obtena.7952 said:
    I've never seen Anet release a 'schedule' for anything ... so what you talking about?

    Anet had stated that their fractal release schedule was (at least until bound by blood) 1 new fractal every other lw episode.

    Sure ... that's not a schedule though. I don't see a date.

    you are too white knight to understand. That was officialy stated by anet, 1 fractal every other episode. Which is like every 6-7 months.

    If you think you can set your watch to anything Anet has said where they never gave a date, you just haven't been paying attention. That's not white knighting at all ... it's called 'observation' and 'reality'. I know what Anet said and if the numbers don't justify another fractal ... or something causes it to be late, then that's EXPECTED. That's exactly what you DON'T see them give you a date.

    They dont give date for lw either but will let you know if someone gets delay

    Really? because I DID see a release date for LS ... Sure they let you know if something they planned for a specific date gets delayed ...

    This fractal release doesn't have a specific date, so why would they announce it's 'late'? ... that doesn't make sense. You can't be late if you don't say when you're going to get there. IT's the whole reason they DON'T give us dates for these things. They are NOT scheduled.

    If you think balancing is only driven by performance and justified by comparisons to other classes then prepare to be educated:

    https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/balance-updates-the-heralds-near-future-and-pvp-league-season-13/

  • zealex.9410zealex.9410 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Obtena.7952 said:

    @zealex.9410 said:

    @Obtena.7952 said:

    @vyncius.6105 said:

    @Obtena.7952 said:

    @zealex.9410 said:

    @Obtena.7952 said:
    I've never seen Anet release a 'schedule' for anything ... so what you talking about?

    Anet had stated that their fractal release schedule was (at least until bound by blood) 1 new fractal every other lw episode.

    Sure ... that's not a schedule though. I don't see a date.

    you are too white knight to understand. That was officialy stated by anet, 1 fractal every other episode. Which is like every 6-7 months.

    If you think you can set your watch to anything Anet has said where they never gave a date, you just haven't been paying attention. That's not white knighting at all ... it's called 'observation' and 'reality'. I know what Anet said and if the numbers don't justify another fractal ... or something causes it to be late, then that's EXPECTED. That's exactly what you DON'T see them give you a date.

    They dont give date for lw either but will let you know if someone gets delay

    Really? because I DID see a release date for LS ... Sure they let you know if something they planned for a specific date gets delayed ...

    This fractal release doesn't have a specific date, so why would they announce it's 'late'? ... that doesn't make sense. You can't be late if you don't say when you're going to get there. IT's the whole reason they DON'T give us dates for these things. They are NOT scheduled.

    Im pretty sure they havent goven dates for lw and then delayed, they have however publicly announced a delay if an episode passes the 3 month mark.

    When a lw episode get a release date (which we usually learned through trailers) so did fractals.

  • Obtena.7952Obtena.7952 Member ✭✭✭✭

    OK fractals got a release date? What is it then?

    If you think balancing is only driven by performance and justified by comparisons to other classes then prepare to be educated:

    https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/balance-updates-the-heralds-near-future-and-pvp-league-season-13/

  • zealex.9410zealex.9410 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Obtena.7952 said:
    OK fractals got a release date? What is it then?

    It have a cadence or a schedule or 1 every other lw update. Like lw has had one episode every 2 to 3 months (untill anet says otherwise)

  • Obtena.7952Obtena.7952 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited October 2, 2019

    Right ... so the date Anet provided for the release is what? You said they gave a release date ...

    If you think balancing is only driven by performance and justified by comparisons to other classes then prepare to be educated:

    https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/balance-updates-the-heralds-near-future-and-pvp-league-season-13/

  • zealex.9410zealex.9410 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Obtena.7952 said:
    Right ... so the date Anet provided for the release is what?

    Did i say they gave a date? Do they ever give dates before they are actually ready to? (which is a week before the update drops usually) I said that since fractals are tied to lw updates we learn the date of a new fractal release along with that of a new lw episode (through the trailers most often).

  • Obtena.7952Obtena.7952 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited October 2, 2019

    @zealex.9410 said:

    @Obtena.7952 said:
    Right ... so the date Anet provided for the release is what?

    Did i say they gave a date? Do they ever give dates before they are actually ready to? (which is a week before the update drops usually) I said that since fractals are tied to lw updates we learn the date of a new fractal release along with that of a new lw episode (through the trailers most often).

    yes you did.

    @zealex.9410 said:
    When a lw episode get a release date (which we usually learned through trailers) so did fractals.

    or did you not mean this? I mean, did Anet give a date for the release of the fractal you are saying is late or not? It's not a hard question. Do you know what a date is?

    If you think balancing is only driven by performance and justified by comparisons to other classes then prepare to be educated:

    https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/balance-updates-the-heralds-near-future-and-pvp-league-season-13/

  • zealex.9410zealex.9410 Member ✭✭✭✭

    No i dont think so, in that thread i go into detail on the release cadence we had in se3 then in s4 and how it seemed to be getting slower while also less content was developed for fractals overall.

    This one i was simply asking if anet put up a delay notice for the fractal like they do for their lw episodes if they miss the timeframe anet set (2 to 3 months.)

  • zealex.9410zealex.9410 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Obtena.7952 said:

    @zealex.9410 said:

    @Obtena.7952 said:
    Right ... so the date Anet provided for the release is what?

    Did i say they gave a date? Do they ever give dates before they are actually ready to? (which is a week before the update drops usually) I said that since fractals are tied to lw updates we learn the date of a new fractal release along with that of a new lw episode (through the trailers most often).

    yes you did.

    @zealex.9410 said:
    When a lw episode get a release date (which we usually learned through trailers) so did fractals.

    I say when a lw update get its release date announced so does the fraftal that comes with it (not all releases come with one the cadence set by anet until now was one fractal every other lw update). For example deepstone was announced with long live the lich with a release date, similarly siren's reef with all or nothing.

    The cadence of a fractal every 2 lw updates suggested there was gonna be one with bound by blood which didnt happen and luke they make delay post about lw i wondered if they did smth similar for the next fractal.

    or did you not mean this? I mean, did Anet give a date for the release of the fractal you are saying is late or not? It's not a hard question. Do you know what a date is?

    They dont give date until the content is ready. They do give delay post if content is not done in the timeframe they've given us.

  • Vinceman.4572Vinceman.4572 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @zealex.9410 said:
    They dont give date until the content is ready. They do give delay post if content is not done in the timeframe they've given us.

    This alone should be enough for us to realize which value raids & fractals have from Anet's point of view.

    Btw. I think they'll definitely need more time. In yesterday's stream it was said the first steps in the development of templates started 2017. It's 2019 now and the next 4 weeks are essentially needed to set the price for them (because they haven't yet).

  • zealex.9410zealex.9410 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Vinceman.4572 said:

    @zealex.9410 said:
    They dont give date until the content is ready. They do give delay post if content is not done in the timeframe they've given us.

    This alone should be enough for us to realize which value raids & fractals have from Anet's point of view.

    Btw. I think they'll definitely need more time. In yesterday's stream it was said the first steps in the development of templates started 2017. It's 2019 now and the next 4 weeks are essentially needed to set the price for them (because they haven't yet).

    Considering all the feedback in regards to how limited templates are they might be looking to expand the caps. For any semi serious player that dabbles in more than 2 gamemodes 6 gear and build templates is too little.

  • Sublimatio.6981Sublimatio.6981 Member ✭✭✭

    @Obtena.7952 said:
    Right ... so the date Anet provided for the release is what? You said they gave a release date ...

    in one of Reddit AMA for a LS4 episode, a developer said that fractal release cadency is every other LS episode. that means new fractal release date was supposed to be september 17. we didn't get a fractal on that date without any explanaton. i hope that explains it to you since you seem to be really confused.

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  • Astralporing.1957Astralporing.1957 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Again, the answer is that it was their schedule in LS4. For LS5 though they did mention they won't feel limited by the older assumptions. I'd say that the original schedule should probably be treated as one of those abandoned assumptions. So, don't expect anything unless they make some new promises.

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  • Durzlla.6295Durzlla.6295 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @zealex.9410 said:

    @Obtena.7952 said:
    I've never seen Anet release a 'schedule' for anything ... so what you talking about?

    Anet had stated that their fractal release schedule was (at least until bound by blood) 1 new fractal every other lw episode.

    I mean TECHNICALLY, this was “just a prologue” and not an episode, so maybe it’ll come out with the next one?

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  • lare.5129lare.5129 Member ✭✭✭

    what should be happed ? The LS5 is not started yet, we have only prologe.
    So relax, wait hellowin at 15+ day , and after aprox 1+ month we will see part 1, and after 1+1+1 part 2 and in one of that part should be fractal

  • ProtoGunner.4953ProtoGunner.4953 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Just some nerds complaining here. I usually play 1-2 builds per character and keep this build for like 6 months to a year, then change it. This is not GW1. But yeah, monetisation of all aspects in this game sucks. I would've been off with far less money sunk in this game, if it was just sub based...

  • Linken.6345Linken.6345 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @ProtoGunner.4953 said:
    Just some nerds complaining here. I usually play 1-2 builds per character and keep this build for like 6 months to a year, then change it. This is not GW1. But yeah, monetisation of all aspects in this game sucks. I would've been off with far less money sunk in this game, if it was just sub based...

    160$ for 7 years is pretty cheap imo, I would probabely have spent less if it were sub based since I wouldent have been playing for 7 years tho.

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