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New player. Is it worth it?

Hello everyone!
My name is Orsson and I started playing guild wars 2 a week ago. I'm an avid MMORPG player and after playing World of Warcraft for a quite handful amount of my life I decided to quit, because the game has lost its charm for me, and find another game to spend my time in. I've always been hearing about GW2 and I had hidden interest in this title, but my commitment to wow wouldn't let me try it out, so after quitting I've headed straight into this game.
My first impressions were fantastic. Almost every mechanic of this game appeals to me one way or another, so I decided that I really want to put a huge amount of time in it, but before I proceed I wanted to ask one question, is it worth starting playing and going full ham on GW2 now, as a "WoW refugee"? How is the state of the game? What is the future of this game? Would you do it in 2019?
I know that this kind of topic may seem odd, but I really want to know, because I would like to avoid a situation where I put hundred of hours and bags of money into the game and see it fall after couple of months. I've already purchased both expansions during the 2 for 1 sale having some money to spare, but I've heard that I have to put a little more for Living World stories and for example quality of life items from the gemstore.
Thanks for Your answers in advance!
Cheers!

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  • Mouse.7382Mouse.7382 Member ✭✭✭

    There is so much to do in this game, if you are coming in 'fresh.' Core Tyria is great, and both expansions (HOT and POF) are also equally as enjoyable.
    I DO recommend it.

    Having said that, and to answer your question, "What is the future of this game?" I can only give my humble opinion; and this is based on YEARS of online MMO's, since release to eventually server maintenance/shutdown mode--bleak. The best years are behind (as with any game of this age)--with very telling signs that there will not be 'worthy expansion-like content' release again.

  • Ashantara.8731Ashantara.8731 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited October 5, 2019

    I disagree that the best years are behind it. The game has still so much unused potential that just waits to be tapped. They wouldn't come up with QoL updates like build templates now if they didn't have plans for the future. Whether those plans will address the aforementioned potential remains to be seen.

    As for the fun factor, OP: There certainly is plenty to attract new players, so hop in and try it out! :) The core campaign's technical execution might seem a bit outdated to you, but don't worry, it'll get a lot better after that. Have fun!

  • Tsakhi.8124Tsakhi.8124 Member ✭✭✭
    edited October 5, 2019

    I think it is. The old saying mileage may vary holds true. Personally, I'm enjoying it, it gives me an escape that I can't get anywhere else. Also, howdy!

    I'll take what is grammar for 600$ Alex...

    There is a reason the old paths are behind us; the only way we can see what's in front of us is to look forward and remember why the old paths were left behind.
    "I always thought that Joko was a THOT."

    Light Wood Laminate.

  • Tukaram.8256Tukaram.8256 Member ✭✭✭

    I have been playing since the release (and GW before that). I just bought PoF a couple months ago and am playing more now than ever. There is still plenty to do, lots of people. I can't see the future, but the present is doing great! (yes, you may get a different view on the forum, but game forums are always like that ha ha).

  • Dante.1508Dante.1508 Member ✭✭✭

    Depends what you want out of it.. Casual social environment to play or competitive esport fest.. The former is great fun the latter, you should look elsewhere..

    Not telling just explaining.

  • @Mouse.7382 said:
    The best years are behind

    No MMO is worth playing until at least five years in. But if you mean the old school Big Expansions Big Stories Big Population is behind it, I would agree.

    I wish I knew I had a signature so I could be upset about not seeing it.

  • plenty of things to do for $30.00

  • Psycoprophet.8107Psycoprophet.8107 Member ✭✭✭✭

    I donno, try it and see if u like it, I found eso's pve 10× better than gw2 but cuz the combat mechanics if u like pvp gw2 is ok but coulda been great

  • Firebeard.1746Firebeard.1746 Member ✭✭✭
    edited October 6, 2019

    @Psycoprophet.8107 said:
    I donno, try it and see if u like it, I found eso's pve 10× better than gw2 but cuz the combat mechanics if u like pvp gw2 is ok but coulda been great

    Funny, eso's combat just felt strange for me once i learned it. Cast animation canceling was weird: things die, don't always see how. Though it's probably been about 2 years since i last touched the game.

    @OP: there's lots to do, i like it. I just came back from WoW and am enjoying it now more than ever, but coming back with a little bit if gold already in store helped me with the gold gates on the starter mounts. The main focus is open world pve. The great thing is that there's lots of different areas you can do events in. But there's still plenty outside that too: raids and fractals. WvW is good if you can still pull a big enough group together. sPvP is okay but ranked is just pure poison(i would blame shortcomings in the matchmaker, but that takes too long to explain). I would say sPvP is great if they innovated more to keep it fresh. I've been playing this since 2014-2015 on and off, and to see conquest mode as the only thing and kind of wonky balance STILL is just "meh." Matchmaking in unranked is good enough it can still be fun, it just gets stale.

    My recommendation would be to immediately start working on path of fire if you purchased it so you can get mounts, they make the game a lot funner. Also, do dailies, you'll need the gold for the other 3 base mounts after raptor. I just ragged on sPvP but it's usually an easy way to knock out at least 2 objectives of the 3 in 1 match and it's pretty fast, then you can do an easy open world one like mining/logging or gathering. Find a good open world build for your class and build the elite specialization for it from PoF hero points + gather good exotics for it. I say this because HoT areas will suck without a good handle on your class, a good build and the gear to back it up and mounts definitely help with navigation too. If the dailies are toxic/too time consuming then try fractals for gold, there's usually lots of people willing to help out in tier 1 through the lfg tool. There's a vendor in the fractal area that lets you buy more encryption keys and it's usually worth it because of the large amount of valuable vendor junk, and you can always sell exotics you don't need for $$.

    Core tyria is fine. The initial story is pretty good once you get far enough, but the game felt like it was missing something for me before mounts were added. Actually if you want to start from the beginning, you can grab just the raptor and then do core tyria and go from there.

  • Acheron.4731Acheron.4731 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Erasculio.2914 said:

    @Orsson.3208 said:
    I know that this kind of topic may seem odd, but I really want to know, because I would like to avoid a situation where I put hundred of hours and bags of money into the game and see it fall after couple of months.

    Play the game, but wait a bit before you actually spend more money in it. Right now the future is very uncertain - you could spend a lot of money today only to learn tomorrow that the game is going into maintenance mode.

    ^
    What he said

    A true friend of the crown

  • SinisterSlay.6973SinisterSlay.6973 Member ✭✭✭
    edited October 6, 2019

    Come hang out. Everyone is nice in gw2. Hit one of us up in game and we can even give you a tour

  • Etria.3642Etria.3642 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Astralporing.1957 said:

    @Ashantara.8731 said:
    I disagree that the best years are behind it. The game has still so much unused potential that just waits to be tapped. They wouldn't come up with QoL updates like build templates now if they didn't have plans for the future.

    The way they monetized that QoL update shows clearly what are those plans for the future.

    I have to agree with @Erasculio.2914 here - it's better to wait before commiting to any greater investment. Buying PoF is one thing - i'd say that it's still worth the cost - but i would avoid any gemshop purchases at the moment. And it's not the good moment for getting too attached.

    Agree wholeheartedly with the buying PoF. With HoT along with it, that means you get mounts and gliding, which for ME, are the reasons GW2 is so fun to play. Core Tyria was not interesting enough for me to play/buy it 7 years ago, and it still wouldn't be. Mounts, gliding, the lack of a gear grind, those are all worthwhile. It's a fantastic game to play, leave, come back to, play, leave, or whichever because your gear will still be relevant. There is, for a new player, ALSO plenty to do. I compare the game without PoF as swtor without a subscription. You can still have fun and do things but comparatively, it's just night and day. The advantage to GW2, however, is once bought, the expansions stay bought.

  • wefal.8426wefal.8426 Member ✭✭
    edited October 6, 2019

    I started gw2 a month after release (2012), quit around 2014-15, then came back 5-6 months ago.

    Play more before you spend real money. Your enthusiasm might be because you're playing new game, especially after playing WoW for so long. Let the first gloss wear off.

    There was alot to catch up and it took me a couple of months to do so. You as new player should catch up soon enough. After all it's not WoW.

    I tried WoW a year ago. Really enjoyed the game but I felt that it was too late to play it now so I quit.

    No gear progression. Best gear is ascended/legendary but it's only few % better than exotic (which is easy to get). Exotic is more than enough for all content (fractals exluded ofc).

    This is Fashion Wars. (There is even a title called Fashion Collector after unlocking 1000 skins). You chase after shiny skins.

    Find a guild(s)! It will help you greatly.

    Set goals to achieve.
    e.g reaching fractal 100, starting raids, do all dungeons, wvw, pvp, chase titles etc etc.
    I find that if you dont set goals to yourself in gw2, you will drop the game faster than cartoon coyote falling off a cliff.

  • Holy Hallidor.3067Holy Hallidor.3067 Member ✭✭
    edited October 6, 2019

    Answers, whether you should invest your time and/or money into the game or not, were given. If you should continue, I just want to remark something quite important, if you care about chronological order of story: Season 2 and 3 of Living World contains story content which is chronologically located between Personal Story (base game) and Heart of Thorns. Season 4 comes after Heart of Thorns and before Path of Fire.
    You do not need those seasons to play the expansions, there are mutually independent, however you if you omit them, you kinda skip story.

  • Ashen.2907Ashen.2907 Member ✭✭✭✭

    The game is worth your time and money IMO. I dont agree with every developer decision but the game is pretty solid overall.

  • knomslayer.9457knomslayer.9457 Member ✭✭✭

    Since the second expansion released path of fire.. it is the best MMO out there until now i 100% welcome new adventurers to the world of tyria, it is big it is massive story telling is good, community is the nicest among all MMO no toxic goblins,, .. if you are want to try the game try as free account i suggest there is alot to do as free to play i were free to play myself for 2 years , i do pvp wvw map completion i also make legendary as free to play player then i buy the path of fire expansion. yes the is alot to do in the game you should try first before buying good luck

  • Infusion.7149Infusion.7149 Member ✭✭✭

    Of course it is worth it. Gem store purchases largely might not be, but the core game , expansions, and the living story packs are.

    • Living World Season 2 Complete Pack (Dry Top, Silverwastes) = 1280 gem base price
    • Living World Season 3 Complete Pack (Bloodstone Fen , Ember Bay, Bitterfrost frontier, Lake Doric ... to a lesser extent Draconis Mons & Siren's Landing) = 960 gem base price
    • Living World Season 4 Complete Pack (Istan , Sandswept Isles, Kourna, Jahai Bluffs, Thunderhead Peaks) = 960 gem base price
  • knomslayer.9457knomslayer.9457 Member ✭✭✭

    @vesica tempestas.1563 said:
    Ofc it's worth it, even the complainers conveniently forget they have got hundreds if not thousands of hours out of the game, and pvp and wvw is fine, better than most other aaa mmorpg and you will quickly get to the gear cap thats been set for years.

    better than world of warcraft yes i agree

  • Kaliwenda.3428Kaliwenda.3428 Member ✭✭✭

    I think it's worth it, there is so much to do for a new player! Also, for me the best thing about GW2 is that when I get busy IRL like I am now, I don't have to worry that my gear will be obsolete when I'm able to return. :)

  • Trise.2865Trise.2865 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Welcome to Tyria!

    As with any game, "Your mileage may vary", but on the whole Guild Wars 2 is very stable and steady. Guild Wars 1 is still running, so there's no reason to believe Guild Wars 2 will shut down any time soon.

    If we want ANet to step up their game, then we must step up ours.

  • The answer to your question is, yes, it's worth immersing yourself in this game. I've played this game for six or seven years now and I always have so much to do in game. I like the storyline and the lore of the game.

    As far as how far the game is going to go, they have given us the beginning of a new story saga. We've had lots of fantastic upgrades to the game over the years such as gliding and mounts. When I started playing, I had to run everywhere and I couldn't glide from high places safely to the ground like I can now with glider. They added a whole new profession (revenant) since I started playing.

    But, where can they go from here? I believe the keep the game alive with story sagas and goals and objectives to meet in this game which I work diligently on every day. There is so much to do in raids, pvp, wvw and pve to do. You could spend years on this game if you have a mind to.

  • sorudo.9054sorudo.9054 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Seera.5916 said:

    @sorudo.9054 said:
    if you like static achievements with an empty world filled with nothingness, GW2 is the place for you.
    if you love a world without even a single bit of immersion, GW2 is the place for you.
    if you really like grinding stuff within massive spam of effects and fake "no trinity" claims, GW2 is the place for you.

    so yep, it's absolutely.....NOT worth it if you want a proper well designed game that doesn't burn you out within weeks.

    I wasn't burnt out in weeks and I've been playing since head start.

    I don't feel the world is emtpy or filled for nothingness.

    I feel the world is very immersive.

    There isn't much grind in the game and what grind there is is not mandatory.

    There isn't a trinity in this game. Some content just requires you to be able to do a series of things and doesn't care how you split it up between the players.

    So I would say it is worth it to play.

    then you're easily satisfied.

  • sorudo.9054sorudo.9054 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Seera.5916 said:

    @sorudo.9054 said:

    @Seera.5916 said:

    @sorudo.9054 said:
    if you like static achievements with an empty world filled with nothingness, GW2 is the place for you.
    if you love a world without even a single bit of immersion, GW2 is the place for you.
    if you really like grinding stuff within massive spam of effects and fake "no trinity" claims, GW2 is the place for you.

    so yep, it's absolutely.....NOT worth it if you want a proper well designed game that doesn't burn you out within weeks.

    I wasn't burnt out in weeks and I've been playing since head start.

    I don't feel the world is emtpy or filled for nothingness.

    I feel the world is very immersive.

    There isn't much grind in the game and what grind there is is not mandatory.

    There isn't a trinity in this game. Some content just requires you to be able to do a series of things and doesn't care how you split it up between the players.

    So I would say it is worth it to play.

    then you're easily satisfied.

    Who cares if someone is easily satisfied or not?

    Doesn't change the fact that it is worth it for a new player to play the game and see what their own opinion is on the game. Because games are very much a your mileage may vary on how much you enjoy a game and for how long.

    and he asked if it's worth it, this is my stand point so there is no point arguing about it.

  • Donari.5237Donari.5237 Member ✭✭✭✭

    You have bought the game and the expansions. Therefore the only thing left you must buy to experience the whole thing is Living Story. Which you can't begin to play until you are 80 anyway. So dive on in, you own your account for as long as the servers stay up. At least get what you consider your money's worth of play time out of the leveling experience and learning the game mechanics and lore and exploring all the nooks and crannies. (Highly recommended that if you have an 80 boost, you don't use it until you've got some low end stuff under your belt, there is a very common complaint from people that boost too early that the game is both too complex and too boring somehow all at once). If you are hooked enough by the time you are 80 on at least one if not multiple characters (leveling is much faster here than in WoW, and the game is very alt-friendly), then you can look into how to get access to the LS maps and story.

    There is some doom-and-gloom going on from pessimists who think that recent developments presage the game's death Any Day Now. It is true that plugs can be suddenly pulled on games (see: CoH). However that doesn't actually seem very likely given all the Saga work they've hinted at -- there should be at least a year left (and I lean to a lot more years of new content coming). Regardless, my feeling is that one shouldn't worry about the "investment." Pay for what's fun now, enjoy it, remember enjoying it. Maybe hold off on shoving a ton of money at the game if you ever do spend anything on it, until you have your own gut feeling of how much longer things will last and what you really need to enhance your fun. I mean, do you avoid eating at a restaurant because it might be closing next month? Do you regret spending money on a book by an author who is now dead so you won't get more books from them? Should you not have watched the Avengers movies because the mega-arc came to an end? The "investment" is in current enjoyment that becomes memories of good times.

    You've got solid months of game ahead of you just in what you've already bought, far more than a single-player game provides for the same price, so yes, it's worth playing now that you have it. You can decide for yourself if it's worth continuing to play after you have gotten through the initial "oh shiny!' rush.

  • JTGuevara.9018JTGuevara.9018 Member ✭✭✭
    edited October 6, 2019

    Hello, OP! As someone who has been in this for 7 years, I can only give my honest opinion. The general community is pretty solid as a whole. I'm mostly talking about pve. However, if you're into pvp, stay away. pvp is a lost cause. It's been neglected and mismanaged in development for years and most of that community left a long time ago. What's left of that community is nothing but pure bitterness, I didn't want to be a part of that so I left to other games for my pvp needs. Honestly, pve is where it's at now: raids, fractals, etc. The old content alone is also worth it as a new player. You also have the two expansions.

    However, I will caution you as well as any new players to not get too invested. gw2 is legitimately struggling, even in pve, due to mismanagement, politics and internal company changes. The game is unstable and its future is in doubt.

  • Cronospere.8143Cronospere.8143 Member ✭✭✭

    I recomment doing everything in chronological order.

    Core tyria
    Ls1 recap
    Ls2
    Heart of thornes
    Ls3
    Path of fire
    Ls4
    Icebrood saga

    In this way you really go through it as it is designed. And thats the best way to go with all the plottwist surprises and such. So after youve done the main story buy the living seasons.
    Have fun and goodluck.

  • Ashantara.8731Ashantara.8731 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited October 6, 2019

    @Holy Hallidor.3067 said:
    Answers, whether you should invest your time and/or money into the game or not, were given. If you should continue, I just want to remark something quite important, if you care about chronological order of story: Season 2 and 3 of Living World contains story content which is chronologically located between Personal Story (base game) and Heart of Thorns. Season 4 comes after Heart of Thorns and before Path of Fire.

    Which is incorrect. The correct chronological order is:

    • Core campaign
    • LWS1 (which is no longer available for play, but there is a nice video summary on YT, and this)
    • LWS2
    • Heart of Thorns expansion
    • LWS3
    • Path of Fire expansion
    • LWS4
    • LWS5 (a.k.a. The Icebrood Saga)
  • And TC was never heard from again

  • @sorudo.9054 said:
    if you like static achievements with an empty world filled with nothingness, GW2 is the place for you.
    if you love a world without even a single bit of immersion, GW2 is the place for you.
    if you really like grinding stuff within massive spam of effects and fake "no trinity" claims, GW2 is the place for you.

    so yep, it's absolutely.....NOT worth it if you want a proper well designed game that doesn't burn you out within weeks.

    Don't listen to this bitter nonsense. A nasty ungrateful viewpoint from someone that has got 7 years gameplay out of gw2 (yes we can see your gaming history)

    "Any path that narrows future possibilities may become a lethal trap. Humans do not thread their way through a maze; they scan a vast horizon filled with unique opportunities." - The Spacing Guild Handbook.

    Beware the meta!

  • knite.1542knite.1542 Member ✭✭✭

    If you are interested in harecore or competitive gameplay I would say no, otherwise yeah, there is fun stuff to do.

    so you are still salty about that.

  • @vesica tempestas.1563 said:
    they have got hundreds if not thousands of hours out of the game

    I always try to remember every time I did a face plant when I started playing just so I won't write dumb kitten like, "Vilnia Shadowsong is easy. I solo it all the time!" at new players.

    I wish I knew I had a signature so I could be upset about not seeing it.

  • No it isn't. If you use the lvl 80 boost you won't find any gear you can use for a real long time. It also makes a lot of combat trivial to the point you don't even need to use skills. Also every zone has to be explored to get waypoints or you can't make it to the event people are yelling about. This takes a very very long time. There is also jump mechanics in this game for no apparent reason. Also mastery points are hard to come by and that also takes a very very long time to catch up. There 100000s of currencies that you don't have and tons of crafting that becomes pointless when you boost. The quick of it is....New players are far far far away from everyone else because the game is so old. Sure you can boost to 80 then it becomes a boring jump feast for a long time just getting waypoints so you traverse the map. Then you have 2 expansions to go thrru and living world which everyone else has done. Also you can join 5 different guilds which means your loyal to none and it shows in game. The game is just very boring for a new player which is why I didn't last long.

  • Ashantara.8731Ashantara.8731 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @razor.9615 said:
    No it isn't. [...]

    You sound like you speed-rushed through the content. The journey is the reward. When you still have tons of stuff to do, to explore, to achieve, then doing that should be the fun part, not a chore to catch up with veterans. Because once you have caught up, you might discover that you won't find anything left to do that will truly satisfy you.

    I think the one big downside of GW2 for veterans is that you have all that great gear and latest builds, and nothing to do with them in PvE once you have played through the story and done all the achievements you wanted to do, because there is nothing to do in the open world, really, and repeated exploration simply for the fun of it is completely unrewarding. Events are totally repetitive, mostly unchallenging and 80% unrewarding (except for some meta events, which also grow boring quickly, though), so PvE veterans are pretty screwed and have to create their own "excitement" by either playing other game modes (which can't compete with, let's say, GW1's), gambling (i.e., buying keys and opening Black Lion Chests) or looking for a new look for their characters (i.e., buying skins and makeover kits, using transmutation charges etc), hence "Fashion Wars".

    But it's a long road to get to that point. Or at least it should be. ;)

  • Game of Bones.8975Game of Bones.8975 Member ✭✭✭✭

    I've never played WoW so don't have a frame of reference.
    Depends on why you are playing.
    I find there is enough to keep me busy for years to come with unfinished achievements. I haven't used my ascended garden past getting it installed.
    I play enough to make it worth time/effort to equip characters with ascended items.
    I go to WvW and Fractals when I have to, but I'm a PvE player and happy with that.

    I like the fact that everyone gains from a kill; so it helps if you see a fight and jump in. You won't lessen what they would get on their own.
    People randomly rez players as they scoot by. It's an act of goodwill and you will need it in the future.
    It may take time to gather people for an open-world PUG, but trains start all the time and people are helpful if you ask.

    "That's what" -- She

  • Hey there, just saw this post :)

    The game is one of the classics in what I've played, I don't play it much but whenever I see someone new, I love to help out and adventure the world again.

    I feel as this game's best years have gone past and have brought so many memories, I don't know much about it now as I used to but I feel you can get some of those memories and treasure them. The game is breathtaking and beautiful. I still remember the floating rock my clan leader and me sat on and built our first guild called Netherfore. Though its a gone guild, we made it to an amazing feat and amazing memories with clan meetings, clan games, clan raids, and much much more, traditions of dying off this huge cliff we built in the guild hall. I played this game about 1 year after release, but I feel all those memories can be acquired even for a new player coming in :).

    The trains in silverwastes might be trains in other places, I have no idea haha. The world boss timers, especially tequatl. The 3 headed worm that very very very few times guild could kill, at least back in 2014. The game is still beautiful and the same as it used to be with much more content. I don't know much about it now, but the feeling of your player hitting level 80 for the first time, or picking your first class carefully, or acquiring your first legendary weapon, completing every jumping puzzle (Lol no one really does that, I did because I loved them). There is still so much to do in the world of tyria.

    If you ever wanna play with me or need help in game I'd be more than down :)

    User: Runs With Vodka.5913

  • Svarty.8019Svarty.8019 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited December 3, 2019

    Despite power issues due to the PoF expac, and various "interesting" decisions by the people upstairs, WvW remains quite good. I would say it is still worth it, but make sure your swearing filter is on and be ready for people who are ... passionate!
    Also, just because numbers look big on the UI, it doesn't mean they are important - WvW has been tweaked over time but there isn't much effort put into maintaining it.

    Thief OP? Better nerf Scourge ... again.

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