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Should arena net start working on a Cantha Expansion for GW2?

Just wanting to get the updated public opinion. I think they should.

Should arena net start working on a Cantha Expansion for GW2? 180 votes

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  • Liston.9708Liston.9708 Member ✭✭✭

    As much as I’d like an expansion, I don’t think there is the player base to support it. The gam is 7 years old..

  • are you talking about the map from GW: factions? i love that map. however the map is separated from the main. so really not sure if they will consider.

  • Palador.2170Palador.2170 Member ✭✭✭✭

    I get the impression that there's a cultural/political minefield they'd have to navigate there. Too often, they'd be halfway done with something, then orders from on high would be to scrap that and do it differently.

    IF they did Cantha today, I think they'd have to basically level the whole area and have it either in ruins, or rebuilt into something most people don't recognise. Both would make GW1 players unhappy. Instead, I'd like them to consider having some refugees from Cantha show up somewhere, maybe on an island of their own. Give us one taste of Cantha, one aspect of it from one group that survived, then say that the rest is gone or at least unreachable. Then let it go.

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  • Acheron.4731Acheron.4731 Member ✭✭✭

    Do I think they should work on any expansion? Yes
    Do I think they could get it done in time with any relevance left? Unfortunately not. That ship sailed after the aug 30th update. The people that were still holding on mostly eroded away and even if they started yesterday...it would be far too long for any meaningful boost to the game. They dropped the ball.
    Just my opinion.

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  • Ben K.6238Ben K.6238 Member ✭✭✭✭

    They need to be planning for the future, which is such an obvious thing to say I would normally leave that bit out. But it's that consideration that determines whether it's worth working on Cantha.

    There are two ways forward for the company: try to gain more players for GW2, or work on something else that has a better chance of gaining a future audience. (A bit of both is certainly an option.)

    More players for GW2 isn't an impossibility, if they can keep releasing quality content that keeps players coming back. It also needs to be good enough that more people return for each release than left after the last one though, which I don't think has been happening. If they can reverse that trend over the Icebrood Saga, it's fair to say a Cantha expansion would provide a significant boost of interest which will put them in good standing for the future.

    If they're planning to develop something else after GW2, it makes sense to get as much out of the current game as possible while there's still significant interest. In that case, Cantha would also be a good short-term boost. So either way, I feel like it'd be worth their while, whether the goal is a resurgence or a finale to the GW2 story.

  • NYG.2568NYG.2568 Member ✭✭✭

    They should but they won't..
    They know the game is in decline. No I'm not saying it's dying, but most of the players whom bought the original game and first Xpax are not playing anymore, at least not on any regular basis.
    Yes, I know a few of you are gonna Whiteknight the hell out of this and say I'm still here and I love blah blah blah.
    But, If were being honest. it most certainly is in decline which is why the game has gone free to play, to create a false population.
    While doing this they will spew out sprinkles of new content and monetize the hell out of it, as the game Fades into that good night!

  • Ashantara.8731Ashantara.8731 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Liston.9708 said:
    As much as I’d like an expansion, I don’t think there is the player base to support it. The gam is 7 years old..

    What does a game's age have to do with its quality of content? If the expansion is great it will be played. People will hear or read good things about it and pour in to try it out.

  • Regh.8649Regh.8649 Member ✭✭✭

    @derd.6413 said:
    weekly cantha thread spiced up with dead game pesimism in the comments.

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  • Poormany.4507Poormany.4507 Member ✭✭✭

    They really need to have something big (i.e. an expac) after Icebrood Saga to get players back in the game for more than 2 or 3 days every 2-3 months, and that's what most PVE players are hyped for right now since they didn't do an expac after LWS4. Not doing that would be a massive letdown and would probably lose them many players that are holding out hope for an expac in the future. Doesn't necessarily have to be Cantha, but if it was, it would really help bring a lot of players back into the game.

  • Magnus Godrik.5841Magnus Godrik.5841 Member ✭✭✭✭

    You dont need a sequel to be better. Look at WoW as an example.

  • Fenom.9457Fenom.9457 Member ✭✭✭✭

    An option for “not yet”? There’s some stories they need to clear up here first. I know they can always come back to central tyria but still, it would be weird if that followed the Icebrood Saga

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  • Trise.2865Trise.2865 Member ✭✭✭✭

    No. They should finish working on a Cantha expansion.

    ...or don't. Whatever.

    If we want ANet to step up their game, then we must step up ours.

  • Menadena.7482Menadena.7482 Member ✭✭✭✭

    At this point I am guessing most people would be happy with pretty much any expansion. Even if it is 'lets explore Lion's Arch'.

    New to the game? Feel free to give a yell if you need PVE help.

  • Fueki.4753Fueki.4753 Member ✭✭✭
    edited October 8, 2019

    They should NOT work on a Cantha xpac YET.
    They should work on the current Living Story entry, wrap that up with Jormag being replaced by a magically altered Braham (similar to how Aurene replaced Kralkatorrik). MEANWHILE the Icebrood Saga should also foreshadow (or just drop a single cinematic like Siren's Landing) to where the xpac DIRECTLY AFTER the Icebrood story leads.
    ONLY THEN should Arenanet think about a way to add Bubbles and Cantha into the story for the FINALE of the game.

  • Menadena.7482Menadena.7482 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @NYG.2568 said:
    They should but they won't..
    They know the game is in decline. No I'm not saying it's dying, but most of the players whom bought the original game and first Xpax are not playing anymore, at least not on any regular basis.
    Yes, I know a few of you are gonna Whiteknight the hell out of this and say I'm still here and I love blah blah blah.
    But, If were being honest. it most certainly is in decline which is why the game has gone free to play, to create a false population.
    While doing this they will spew out sprinkles of new content and monetize the hell out of it, as the game Fades into that good night!

    I am not so sure about a decline but it is stagnant. Which is why I was so happy they announced they would expand some maps. Hopefully that will include old maps too. How often do you see level 80s in non-city core maps unless it is to get their dailies? Some games can keep going for years (Sims and WOW for example) but when people look at GW2 they see something that started out with some good ideas and then went back on them. Even if we never got an expansion again I would LOVE to see them revisit the core maps and reaffirm their original principles. Give us a REAL roadmap going forward, not just some marketing speak that causes people to start looking at what game to jump to next.

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  • Liston.9708Liston.9708 Member ✭✭✭

    @Ashantara.8731 said:

    @Liston.9708 said:
    As much as I’d like an expansion, I don’t think there is the player base to support it. The gam is 7 years old..

    What does a game's age have to do with its quality of content? If the expansion is great it will be played. People will hear or read good things about it and pour in to try it out.

    @Ashantara.8731 said:

    @Liston.9708 said:
    As much as I’d like an expansion, I don’t think there is the player base to support it. The gam is 7 years old..

    What does a game's age have to do with its quality of content? If the expansion is great it will be played. People will hear or read good things about it and pour in to try it out.

    The game engine is ancient . Not going to pull in new players on a 7 year old game. I personally would still be playing, but expacs cost money. How will it be paid for with current player base?

  • kharmin.7683kharmin.7683 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Liston.9708 said:
    How will it be paid for with current player base?

    Selling convenience items through some kind of in-game store, perhaps?

  • Etria.3642Etria.3642 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited October 8, 2019

    Cantha would never be able to live up to the dreams and hopes and wishes of one person let alone a few thousand.

  • That is because a majority of the player base does not respond on the forums

  • Yes but they won't for the same reason Blizzard just banned a Hearthstone player, mustn't offend the chinese teat, gotta suckle all that dollar

  • Naxos.2503Naxos.2503 Member ✭✭✭

    Sad to say, but I honestly believe that's too late. As much as the writing is still on point, there is clearly a big hole in the budget when you consider all the aggressive monetization. The sadder part is, if the game had kept it's standart for content release, there wouldn't be nearly as much pushback on their monetization attempts. As it stands, their practice standarts visibly got lowered, and it appears their ethics were downsized. I personally believe trust took a really big hit of late. An expansion should have been released at the peak of players' goodwill. It wasn't, for reasons that have been repeated ad nauseam on the forum. I can only hope that either their practices turn off so many players they're forced to go back on the way they handle money, or ironically and perhaps idealistically that they succeed enough to get back in control of their studio and start producing work as they used to. The second is obviously wishful thinking from someone who wished any industry was able to think "Okay, I got enough to do what I want, I dont need to squeeze more", which is obviously at odd with... any industry.

  • Knighthonor.4061Knighthonor.4061 Member ✭✭✭✭

    So the rumor about the China stuff false?

  • Zaklex.6308Zaklex.6308 Member ✭✭✭✭

    My personal opinion...game is played in China: China gaming board does not approve Cantha expansion, ArenaNet closes down due to wasted expenditure on next expansion....therefore the answer is, it will never happen!

    Yes...no...maybe...what do you want, can't you see I'm busy saving the world...AGAIN!

  • Tukaram.8256Tukaram.8256 Member ✭✭✭

    @Dravyn.4671 said:
    I don't get half the replies in this thread. I just came back to the game and there's people everywhere.

    Yes. But... game forums are always full of doom & gloom. It is what the forums seem to be for - all games. One of my favorite examples is Ultima Online - they have had doom & gloom posts prophesying the imminent death of the game since 1997 ha ha

    I would say we do not need an expansion for Cantha. The next Living World Season could be Cantha. Just open the land and give us the beautiful scenery. With all this talk of dragons in the game, surely one can be an oriental dragon. Not just my mini-dragon...

  • Yes but I sincerely doubt they would be able to deliver anything close to what Factions felt like

    Just look at what they farted out for Elona.

    Half of the Vabbi map doesn't even have mobs on it.

  • Harak.8397Harak.8397 Member ✭✭

    @Tukaram.8256 said:

    @Dravyn.4671 said:
    I don't get half the replies in this thread. I just came back to the game and there's people everywhere.

    Yes. But... game forums are always full of doom & gloom. It is what the forums seem to be for - all games. One of my favorite examples is Ultima Online - they have had doom & gloom posts prophesying the imminent death of the game since 1997 ha ha

    I would say we do not need an expansion for Cantha. The next Living World Season could be Cantha. Just open the land and give us the beautiful scenery. With all this talk of dragons in the game, surely one can be an oriental dragon. Not just my mini-dragon...

    Wasn't Mordremoth pretty much that ? ...and he came around just as the game was being released in China IIRC.

    https://st3.depositphotos.com/1809653/17508/v/1600/depositphotos_175087308-stock-illustration-japanese-style-dragon-illustration-designed.jpg

    Although, he lacked legs ( or talons ) vestigial or otherwise...

  • NYG.2568NYG.2568 Member ✭✭✭

    @Dravyn.4671 said:
    I don't get half the replies in this thread. I just came back to the game and there's people everywhere.

    The game game is free to play now, people dip there toe's and realize it's not right for them. GW2 is not retaining players there I believe is the issue.

  • Dante.1508Dante.1508 Member ✭✭✭

    If they make any expansions again its got to be Cantha.. Nothing else matters.

  • SoulGuardian.6203SoulGuardian.6203 Member ✭✭
    edited October 10, 2019

    Don't forget, there's still primordious after Jormag, and possibly Bubbles.
    They cannot end GW2 with Jormag.
    Will be a huge disappointment.
    As for an expac; it doesn't have to be an expac, they can well keep doing LS.
    I think a lot of people would like to see cantha though.
    But I can't see them making two separate maps just like GW1.
    They have to come up with some sort of storyline that something magically moved cantha into the unending ocean, somewhere between the fire islands and scavengers causeway.
    Hey, this is gw; anything is possible.
    If they can come up with a torch made of ice, lmao, Cantha can certainly be translocated to tyria.

  • Knighthonor.4061Knighthonor.4061 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Tukaram.8256 said:

    @Dravyn.4671 said:
    I don't get half the replies in this thread. I just came back to the game and there's people everywhere.

    Yes. But... game forums are always full of doom & gloom. It is what the forums seem to be for - all games. One of my favorite examples is Ultima Online - they have had doom & gloom posts prophesying the imminent death of the game since 1997 ha ha

    I would say we do not need an expansion for Cantha. The next Living World Season could be Cantha. Just open the land and give us the beautiful scenery. With all this talk of dragons in the game, surely one can be an oriental dragon. Not just my mini-dragon...

    UO had little competition. Now days new MMOs come out all the time. Many recent Gen MMOs had same doom post that were ignored and those games declined ot straight up failed, such as Rift, Warhammer, Current WoW, Darkfall, Wildstar, Archeage, Tera, Aion, etc etc

  • @SoulGuardian.6203 said:
    Don't forget, there's still primordious after Jormag, and possibly Bubbles.
    They cannot end GW2 with Jormag.
    Will be a huge disappointment.
    As for an expac; it doesn't have to be an expac, they can well keep doing LS.
    I think a lot of people would like to see cantha though.
    But I can't see them making two separate maps just like GW1.
    They have to come up with some sort of storyline that something magically moved cantha into the endless sea, somewhere between the fire islands and scavengers causeway.
    Hey, this is gw; anything is possible.
    If they can come up with a torch made of ice, lmao, Cantha can certainly be translocated to tyria.

    I can imagine Bubbles being under cantha or having the power to derive lands (such as cantha) to migrate cantha into the unending ocean and then we have cantha in the same map than anything else ! Excelsior !!!

  • @Nath Forge Tempete.1645 said:

    @SoulGuardian.6203 said:
    Don't forget, there's still primordious after Jormag, and possibly Bubbles.
    They cannot end GW2 with Jormag.
    Will be a huge disappointment.
    As for an expac; it doesn't have to be an expac, they can well keep doing LS.
    I think a lot of people would like to see cantha though.
    But I can't see them making two separate maps just like GW1.
    They have to come up with some sort of storyline that something magically moved cantha into the endless sea, somewhere between the fire islands and scavengers causeway.
    Hey, this is gw; anything is possible.
    If they can come up with a torch made of ice, lmao, Cantha can certainly be translocated to tyria.

    I can imagine Bubbles being under cantha or having the power to derive lands (such as cantha) to migrate cantha into the unending ocean and then we have cantha in the same map than anything else ! Excelsior !!!

    If done well and properly, it could be an awesome story; perhaps even the best so far.
    GW2 still has a lot of potential. It's just a matter of being well executed.

    Adding to it, there could be a huge underwater map; perhaps under the jade sea? Where bubbles sleeps.
    GW1 had a load of dragons in Jade Sea.
    Kinda fits.

  • Heck yeah!!!
    That can mean all sorts of options. Maybe there are land pools deep underwater. Where you can surface and roam in caverns.
    Resurfacing or sinking lands does sounds rather elder dragonesque!!!

  • Yes to Cantha. No need for the poll to be private lol. None of the above appear to be shy about their votes.

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  • Randulf.7614Randulf.7614 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited October 10, 2019

    @Liston.9708 said:

    @Ashantara.8731 said:

    @Liston.9708 said:
    As much as I’d like an expansion, I don’t think there is the player base to support it. The gam is 7 years old..

    What does a game's age have to do with its quality of content? If the expansion is great it will be played. People will hear or read good things about it and pour in to try it out.

    @Ashantara.8731 said:

    @Liston.9708 said:
    As much as I’d like an expansion, I don’t think there is the player base to support it. The gam is 7 years old..

    What does a game's age have to do with its quality of content? If the expansion is great it will be played. People will hear or read good things about it and pour in to try it out.

    The game engine is ancient . Not going to pull in new players on a 7 year old game. I personally would still be playing, but expacs cost money. How will it be paid for with current player base?

    Not entirely true. Lotro pulled in so many people recently it had to create an extra server and that's 11 years old. Even saying that, the population is still compartively small vs other MMO's and yet it's still pulling out an expac this month. GW2 has a larger and healthier playerbase at least for pve. It would have no issues selling an expac and would easily pull back lapsed players even for a short term.

    So yeah, engine age isn't relevant. An expac will sell esp a Canthan based one

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  • Neural.1824Neural.1824 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Do you guys have a google calendar reminder set up to say "hey, there hasn't been a post about Cantha in over 10months!" ?
    Not that I'm against the idea, but this has been requested for years now, and last I recall, Anet was pretty firm that they weren't going there.

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  • Aeolus.3615Aeolus.3615 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited October 10, 2019

    To soon they need to focus on other stuff before Cantha happens.

  • Arenanet is more interested in taking us different places rather than doing Cantha. According to the lore, Cantha isn't interested in having anyone from Tyria coming over since their new Emperor took up residence. They even banned or killed off most of the Tengu tribes.

  • @Neural.1824 said:
    Do you guys have a google calendar reminder set up to say "hey, there hasn't been a post about Cantha in over 10months!" ?
    Not that I'm against the idea, but this has been requested for years now, and last I recall, Anet was pretty firm that they weren't going there.

    Now you're just asking for more threads lol. Do you know where you read that? I'm genuinely curious because I don't remember Anet saying a whole lot about Cantha in general for GW2

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  • Due to the lack of options I voted no. But I am actually indifferent.

    The first element is if they should make an expansion. They recently made a decision to take another path. I know some people react very bitter, but personally I want to see them proof the point that the game doesn't need expansions to be successful. So an expansion plan should be long term.

    If they do I would appreciate if they would inform us they plan on going that path again, but not what the content would be. With Utopia they had massive outcry when it was cancelled, just cause people knew about it. They need the artistic freedom to change paths whenever they feel the need for it.

  • Frostfang.5109Frostfang.5109 Member ✭✭✭

    I want Bubbles and sea content 😃

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