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What is current class tier list for dungeons/fractals/raids?

Hi,

I'm a returning player that wants to know the current meta classes for end game pve content. I used to play ele but apparently it's not good anymore? So I'm stuck choosing a class that is good for raids. Mostly thinking about doing a dps class but open to tank/healing roles.

Thanks

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  • Henry.5713Henry.5713 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Not sure where you have gotten that information from. Elementalists may not be utterly broken as they have been during certain patches in the past but they are in a pretty strong spot at the moment. Check snowcrows or mettabattle for builds.

    Progress isn't made by early risers. It's made by lazy men trying to find easier ways to do something. ~ Robert Heinlein

  • As for DPS:
    DH, Firebrand, PChrono, Mirage -> Everything else.
    If you dont provide quickness you simply arent relevant in the current Meta. Mirage is pretty much the only exception.

    That being said, other classes like Ele will do the Job. If you dont join a group that aims for the best DPS you are fine playing whatever DPS you want. Most of them are pretty close anyway. So you are fine for every PUG group and most statics if you choose to join one.

  • borgs.6103borgs.6103 Member ✭✭✭

    Personal Tier List (from Top to Bottom:)
    Guardian
    Warrior
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    Revenant
    Mesmer
    Thief
    Elementalist
    Necromancer
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  • sokeenoppa.5384sokeenoppa.5384 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited October 10, 2019

    Current meta classes for raids:
    Dps: banner slave(its a dps now ok), dragonhunter, power chrono, mirage, condition renegade and sometimes power soulbeast.

    Supports: druid, quickbrand, alacrity renegade, chrono and thief.

    I'll have two number 9s, a number 9 large, a number 6 with extra dip, a number 7, two number 45s, one with cheese, and a large soda.

  • Taygus.4571Taygus.4571 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Top fractal builds
    https://discretize.eu/builds/

    Top raid builds
    https://snowcrows.com/

    Optional alternative builds.
    https://metabattle.com/

  • Great classes for both fractals and raids:

    • Power Dragonhunter
    • Power Sword Weaver
    • Heal Firebrand
    • Alacrity Renegade
    • Power Berserker (Banner Slave)

    Some classes that are meta in fractals but not necessarily a big part of the current raid meta:

    • Power Quickness Firebrand
    • Power Soulbeast

    Some classes that are meta in raids but not necessarily a big part of the current fractal meta:

    • Support Chronomancer
    • Heal Druid
    • Condition Damage Classes (Mirage, Firebrand, Renegade)
    • Power Daredevil
    • Power Chronomancer
  • The other answers on this thread really cover everything. Dragonhunter, Firebrand, and Renegade are three easy classes to pick up for raids that all deal good damage and are part of the meta, although other classes such as Mirage are certainly better for particular encounters, it should be noted however that Mirage takes time to get good at. Another worthy mention is Power Chronomancer, although it's not a build that will be utilised to its full potential in pug groups, as it works around stacking Power Chronomancers to share quickness and maintain slow with timewarp - essentially meaning you need less boon support. For fractals, Dragonhunter, Soulbeast, and Weaver are the strongest DPS classes due to burst/utility. In dungeons, it doesn't really matter too much, just something bursty and if you're running with more experienced players, providing a portal of sorts is useful.

  • Sobx.1758Sobx.1758 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited October 12, 2019

    Pwr DH
    Alacr (sometimes alacr/heal) Reneg
    power/condi Banner Berk
    Heal Druid
    Condi/quickness FB
    Power Chrono
    Apparently condi mirage?
    Power DD
    Power DE for single target dps

    And moooore. Actually just check the links @Taygus.4571 posted above.

  • Lan Deathrider.5910Lan Deathrider.5910 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Power Berserker without banners, particularly in FotM, is also viable DPS.

    Otherwise the above listings are accurate including this one:

    @RaidsAreEasyAF.8652 said:
    As for DPS:
    DH, Firebrand, PChrono, Mirage -> Everything else.
    If you dont provide quickness you simply arent relevant in the current Meta. Mirage is pretty much the only exception.

    That being said, other classes like Ele will do the Job. If you dont join a group that aims for the best DPS you are fine playing whatever DPS you want. Most of them are pretty close anyway. So you are fine for every PUG group and most statics if you choose to join one.

    For FotM, play whatever DPS you want. Mobs die there so quick that it doesn't matter, even the bosses can be burned down quickly. Raids though there are DPS benchmarks that need to be hit for mechanics, so while most of the DPS are within a few thousand of each other (+/- 10% really) if the whole comp is on the lower end those DPS checks will be failed, hence the preference there for the higher DPS classes.

    So if you are looking for a Raiding class, look at Snowcrow's and find the class you like most that deals the higher end of DPS. For FotM, pick what class you like and max you DPS on it, be sure to bring some group utility as well.

  • RaidsAreEasyAF.8652RaidsAreEasyAF.8652 Member ✭✭✭

    @Lan Deathrider.5910 said:
    For FotM, play whatever DPS you want. Mobs die there so quick that it doesn't matter, even the bosses can be burned down quickly. Raids though there are DPS benchmarks that need to be hit for mechanics, so while most of the DPS are within a few thousand of each other (+/- 10% really) if the whole comp is on the lower end those DPS checks will be failed, hence the preference there for the higher DPS classes.

    So if you are looking for a Raiding class, look at Snowcrow's and find the class you like most that deals the higher end of DPS. For FotM, pick what class you like and max you DPS on it, be sure to bring some group utility as well.

    If a group fails a DPS check they have other problems than classes. There is not a single DPS check in the entire game that requires people to play Meta DPS classes.
    Well, except for maybe 0 Orb KC. But if you are in a group that can pull off 0 Orb KC you have the proper classes anyway.

  • Lan Deathrider.5910Lan Deathrider.5910 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @RaidsAreEasyAF.8652 said:

    @Lan Deathrider.5910 said:
    For FotM, play whatever DPS you want. Mobs die there so quick that it doesn't matter, even the bosses can be burned down quickly. Raids though there are DPS benchmarks that need to be hit for mechanics, so while most of the DPS are within a few thousand of each other (+/- 10% really) if the whole comp is on the lower end those DPS checks will be failed, hence the preference there for the higher DPS classes.

    So if you are looking for a Raiding class, look at Snowcrow's and find the class you like most that deals the higher end of DPS. For FotM, pick what class you like and max you DPS on it, be sure to bring some group utility as well.

    If a group fails a DPS check they have other problems than classes. There is not a single DPS check in the entire game that requires people to play Meta DPS classes.
    Well, except for maybe 0 Orb KC. But if you are in a group that can pull off 0 Orb KC you have the proper classes anyway.

    It was more of a caution against slapping together haphazard traits and calling it a "DPS." That and there are raid groups that are known for kicking players for not having 'high' enough DPS without warning. I suppose the only 'DPS Check' that you really need to make is the Elitist DPS Check from their ArcDPS output :tongue:

  • RaidsAreEasyAF.8652RaidsAreEasyAF.8652 Member ✭✭✭

    @Lan Deathrider.5910 said:
    It was more of a caution against slapping together haphazard traits and calling it a "DPS." That and there are raid groups that are known for kicking players for not having 'high' enough DPS without warning. I suppose the only 'DPS Check' that you really need to make is the Elitist DPS Check from their ArcDPS output :tongue:

    Oh yeah, i agree. You should still play the meta dps build provided for your class.

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