Fellwitch.4536 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 To be more specific, I bought 2800 Gems.Bought the glider & backpack combo for 700 (NO COMPLAINTS HERE I GOT WHAT I WANTED)Then bought 21 keys for 2100 Gems.After seeing the splash announcement on the Black Market screen this morning, that we could get new Halloween-skinned items for Black Lion Claim Tickets, I thought "Hey, I will put in some money and support the developers and keep the game going, and get a nice skin while I am at it."Do you know how many Black Lion Claim Tickets I got?0Do you know how many Black Lion scrap things I got? 6-7. I already had two I believe, thus bringing my total to 9.How many scrap items = one Black Lion Claim Ticket? 10.So basically, 21 bucks down the drain, didn't get a single good item.I can understand trying to make money off of this stuff, but frankly, I got pretty scr3w3d on this deal.I had absolutely NO problem spending the money in the first place, but I guess my assumption I would actually get one of those weapon skins was completely in la-la-land. Lesson learned. How likely am I going to be in the future to spend money and buy gems?0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MetalGirl.2370 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 only $21 ? ...try £500+You should've just bought the skin on TP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randulf.7614 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 And now you have added to their metrics of bought gems + keys and the continued justification of them doing it. You got nothing and they got everything.The house always wins - if you buy keys you need the mindset that you want to lose the money and get nothing in return. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinisterSlay.6973 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 So exactly like gambling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michram.6853 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 OK... Why would you share it with people? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoRi Silvia.4159 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 I know how you feel op but you knew it was gambling with money... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yann.1946 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 I don't really understand why you didn't just buy the skins from the TP.And as a side note you supported the developers the moment you bought the gems. Not the moment you bought something from the store. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanner Blackfeather.6509 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 @yann.1946 said:[...]And as a side note you supported the developers the moment you bought the gems. Not the moment you bought something from the store.While this is true, but what Randulf wrote is probably even more important. Metrics on what sell in the store would dictate how they add things stronger than just the sale of gems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Potatoface.1287 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 Your support of wasted money is going to a good cause, more rubbish skins for people to use their real money on pixels! Keep gambling! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slpr.2647 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 wow, bummer. i got a key as a drop in the Lab, opened that one chest, got a scrap, AND a ticket! so i bought the new GS :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randulf.7614 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 @Arden.7480 said:OK... Why would you share it with people? All part of the healing.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreams.3128 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 Why were you not smart and just sink the rest of those gems into gold and then buy the things off the tp?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirogen.9561 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 Expansive math math lessons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Fear.1624 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 Never really just means sometime later Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexxxDelta.1806 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 The amount is irrelevant. Any amount of money is wasted by default when spent on gambling. It's like throwing money into a fire and complaining because they got burnt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lamont.5973 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 Well with those keys you would also have gotten black lion statuettes and could use six of those to buy that last scrap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkeyspit.3965 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 @AlexxxDelta.1806 said:The amount is irrelevant. Any amount of money is wasted by default when spent on gambling. It's like throwing money into a fire and complaining because they got burnt.No, it isn't. You spend money on gambling for the 'thrill' of gambling, just as if you paid $5.00 to ride a roller coaster.The mistake is thinking that you are spending money on gambling in order to win something; that's just the cherry on the sundae. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sobx.1758 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 This just in: if you gamble, you might not win! :open_mouth: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaraki.5784 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 @"Fellwitch.4536" said:After seeing the splash announcement on the Black Market screen this morning, that we could get new Halloween-skinned items for Black Lion Claim Tickets, I thought "Hey, I will put in some money and support the developers and keep the game going, and get a nice skin while I am at it."You simply thought wrong, this is what you should've thought:"Hey, I will put in some money and support the developers and keep the game going, and have a chance to get a nice skin while I am at it."Sorry if I'm rude, I know your feel but it's really well advised that it's just a CHANCE you're buying when you buy BLCs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Algreg.3629 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 So the house always wins? Gosh, I wish I heard that before :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndigoSundown.5419 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 @"Fellwitch.4536" said:... but I guess my assumption I would actually get one of those weapon skins was completely in la-la-land. Yes, this assumption was a mistake. Congratulations. You have now seen just how "surprise mechanics" (aka gamble boxes) work.Be grateful you didn't fall for the other assumptions: the gambler's fallacy that you are due for a change of luck; and the sunk-cost fallacy that you should continue to pour money into getting the desired item so that the initial money was not "wasted."Lesson learned. How likely am I going to be in the future to spend money and buy gems?0Randulf is correct. As long as people buy keys (either with gems or gold), and as long as laws don't interfere, gaming companies will continue to milk consumers with these boxes. I don't even buy BL weapon skins on the TP anymore, because even that supports the system. While I would buy a skin I like at a price I considered reasonable, apparently the "what the market will bear" price is not enough, and I'm not part of ANet's target market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antycypator.9874 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 So what did you expect? Better loot because you paid? You know it's RNG, it's no matter if you buy gems for real money, buy gems for gold or just get the key from map completion/story or random loot/reward track.But... scraps, seriously? They could remove them. It's pretty unfair loot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaklex.6308 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 @Randulf.7614 said:And now you have added to their metrics of bought gems + keys and the continued justification of them doing it. You got nothing and they got everything.The house always wins - if you buy keys you need the mindset that you want to lose the money and get nothing in return.Or, the other option...don't expect to get anything good from only 21 keys...ever, if you're going to use keys you might as well go whole hog and by at least a 100 to start with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Operator.2590 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 You picked the wrong place to complain about BLC gambling. Not really sure why you thought it'd be a good idea to post about it here either. Or post about it in general. It's gambling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yann.1946 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 @Turkeyspit.3965 said:@AlexxxDelta.1806 said:The amount is irrelevant. Any amount of money is wasted by default when spent on gambling. It's like throwing money into a fire and complaining because they got burnt.No, it isn't. You spend money on gambling for the 'thrill' of gambling, just as if you paid $5.00 to ride a roller coaster.The mistake is thinking that you are spending money on gambling in order to win something; that's just the cherry on the sundae.100% agree. If people actually realise this their would be no problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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