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Take with a large grain of salt. Upon doing a skill a second time, I realized the Special Forces Training golem doesn't apply all boons at the same time. This resulted in a different removal order. Extremely frustrating but there it is.

Alright gang, here it is. I got tired of not knowing, asking, and the wiki being incomplete or misleading (mine field, arrrg). So I done did it for meself, and here are the results.I do not intend to add any sigils or runes to this list, so if someone wants to do that that'd be great.I did not test traits that activated weapons skills as I assume they have the same priority, with the exception of Spiteful Spirit because it is named differently.Lastly, skills that remove clumps of boons are tricky. I tested all of these on the Special Forces Training Area golem. Some of the skills remove different amounts of boons then their PvE counterparts, sooo I went ahead and altered the clump order assuming that its the same as the single order. A lot of clump skills have a similar removal order to single skills, refer to skills that remove one boon at a time like Winds of Disenchantment (again, assuming they are the same but I'm pretty sure they are). Some skills have aegis in their order, this means they are unblockable. Some have stab omitted, this means they are cc skills.

GUARDIANNone

REVENANTTrue Nature, Shiro - regen + alac, might + retal, aegis + vigor, prot + swift, resist + quick, stab + furyBanish Enchantment - alac + regen + retal, might + aegis + vigor, swift + prot + resist, quick + fury + stabOpportune Extraction - stab, fury, resist, quick, prot, swift, vigor, might, retal, alac, regen^ Steals entire stacks and original durations. If someone has a minute of swiftness, you get a minute of swiftness.

WARRIORWinds of Disenchantment - alac, regen, retal, might, aegis, vigor, swift, prot, resist, quick, fury, stabBreak Enchantments (PvE) - alac + regen + retal, might + aegis + vigor, swift + prot + resist, quick + fury + stabDispelling Force (trait) - regen, alac, retal, might, vigor, swift, prot, quick, resist, furyBreaching Strike - alac + regen, retal + might, vigor + swift, prot + resist, fury + quick, stab

RANGERNone

ENGINEERThrow Mine - alac, regen, retal, might, vigor, swift, prot, resist, quick, furyMine Field - alac + regen + might + vigor + retal, quick + swift + prot + resist + fury, stab^ Will actually remove 5 boons if hitting only 1 person, well judging by mine placement max hits you would get is about 3.

THIEFLarcenous Strike - stab + fury, quick + resist, swift + prot, vigor + aegis, retal + might, regen + alac^ Steals entire stacks and original durations. If someone has a minute of swiftness, you get a minute of swiftness.Bountiful Theft (trait) - prot + stab + aegis, alac + regen + retal, might + swift + fury, resist + quick + vigorRending Shade (trait) - stab + fury, resist + quick, prot + swift, vigor + might, retal + alac, regen^ Steals entire stacks and original durations. If someone has a minute of swiftness, you get a minute of swiftness.Binding Shadow - alac + regen, might + retal, vigor + swift, prot + resist, fury + quick, stab

ELEMENTALISTNone

MESMERShattered Concentration (trait) - alac, regen, retal, might, vigor, swift, prot, resist, quick, fury, stab^ Removes per clone.Null Field - alac, regen, retal, might, vigor, swift, prot, resist, quick, fury, stabMind Stab - alac, regen, retal, might, vigor, swift, prot, resist, quick, fury, stabArcane Thievery - quick + stab + fury, prot + resist + fury, vigor + aegis + might, alac + regen + retal^ Steals entire stacks and original durations. If someone has a minute of swiftness, you get a minute of swiftness.Phantasmal Disenchanter - alac + retal + regen + might + aegis, vigor + swift + prot + resist + quick, fury + stab^ This guy removes entire stacks and removes a boon with each auto attack.Mind Spike (1h sword 3rd aa) - alac, regen, retal, might, vigor, swift, prot, resist, quick, fury, stabDune Cloak (trait) - aegis, stab, prot, regen, retal, alac, fury, swift, might, resist, quick, vigor^ Credit goes to Hackuuna.4085 for this one.

NECROMANCERCorrupt Boon - stab + swift + retal, resist + prot + vigor, aegis + might + alac, regen + quick + furyWell of Corruption - alac, fury, stab, retal, prot, regen, swift, quick, vigor, aegis, might, resistPath of Corruption (trait, core) - stab + quick, might + resist, fury + vigor, swift + retal, alac + prot, aegis + regenPath of Corruption (trait, reaper) - stab + alacrity, resist + fury, quick + prot, might + vigor, regen + retal, swiftnessPath of Corruption (trait, scourge) - resist, regen, quick, stab, swift, prot, might, fury, vigor, retal, alacFeast of Corruption (PvE) - alac + fury + might, swift + regen + swiftness, stab + prot + retal, quick + vigor^ Yeah necro skills are all over the place so its impossible to guess the clump order. Left as is.Enfeebling Blood - regen, retal, prot, resist, might, quick, fury, vigor, stab, swift, alacUnholy Feast - fury + vigor, stab + quick, prot + swift, retal + alac, resist + might, regenSpiteful Spirit - regen + swift, prot + alac, stab + might, quick + fury, vigor + retal, resistDark Pact - regen + resist, quick + prot, stab + might, swift + fury, retal + vigor, alacSpinal Shivers - retal + alac + regen, swift + vigor + might, resist + quick + prot, stab + furyNightfall - vigor, prot, fury, stab, alac, swift, retal, might, regen, resist, quickNothing Can Save You - alac + regen, retal + might, vigor + swift, prot + resist, quick + fury, stab^ Damage gets blocked by aegis, but still gets to the boons.Harbinger Shroud - vigor + resist, alac + regen, prot + quick, swift + stab, retal + fury, mightGhastly Breach - vigor, regen, swift, resist, alac, quick, stab, fury, might, protSand Flare - retal, quick, vigor, resist, might, alac, swift, fury, regen, stab, protSerpent Siphon - fury, prot, retal, alac, quick, vigor, swift, stab, might, regen, resistDesiccate - quick, stab, swift, alac, regen, retal, resist, might, vigor, fury, protSand Swell - alac, resist, vigor, swift, retal, quick, prot, fury, regen, might, stabTrail of Anguish - retal, resist, regen, alac, stab, prot, fury, quick, might, swift, vigor

Standard order for classes not necro (or teef except Binding Shadow, mes arcane thievery also different) seems to be:alac, regen, retal, might, aegis, vigor, swift, prot, resist, quick, fury, stab.So when in doubt, assume this.If that doesn't sound right for a particular skill, do a reverse order.Let me know if I missed any or messed up somewhere.

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There's Opportune Extraction missing on Corruption for Revenant as well as Core Value for Shiro True Nature if it would happen to affect the order at all, otherwise nice work, I hope that it is factual as it is.

Edit: I would say that on going results of this hold some truth as I often found myself stealing stab off a ranger in PvP with opportune extraction. Which at first surprised me until seeing your results, it had happened too often.

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@"Pterikdactyl.7630" said:

@Shao.7236 said:Bump, if you want to actually test this in PvP, could probably gather 1 Thief with max Boon Duration and a Mesmer in an duel arena for video game science. Good stuff still.

That's a smart idea. Down to help test this if either of you are down at some point this weekend. @Stand The Wall.6987 if you are NA.

nah lol, i'm done with this stuff. if you guys do test this, I would pay attention to the rip order and determine if consume plasma applies the boons all at the same time or not, since it will effect the results.

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