IO

Since it became a potato upskill with the removal of superspeed and a ridiculous energy cost of -8 can we at least add torment to it when wielding a mace to bring more some synergy with condi builds so its not completely useless for anyone not running power build?

At the very least, this skill should no longer consume 8 energy. It really should be normalized at 6 with all the other toggles.

@Julius Seizure.4985 said:At the very least, this skill should no longer consume 8 energy. It really should be normalized at 6 with all the other toggles.

This. It seems like they are wanting to normalize core upkeep costs for all legends. IO is the only remaining outlier and it no longer justifies an 8 upkeep cost. The nerf to the movement speed was severe.

@"Pterikdactyl.7630" said:

@Julius Seizure.4985 said:At the very least, this skill should no longer consume 8 energy. It really should be normalized at 6 with all the other toggles.

Indeed son. It feels like normal swiftness. They truly completely butchered this ability from quickness and superspeed to..... yeahWheres Shiro healing skill rework at?

People should just bump the topic I already made, Impossible Odds as is should just be -6 upkeep and it would be fine.

I beat you guys to it over a year ago: Impossible Odds Upkeep (PvP/WvW)

Of course the skill still had superspeed back then so it was considered "crazy" to make things consistent for all game modes.

I mean it had superspeed which is powerful.. As things stand right now IO doesnt even warrant -6. Its shit tier especially for condi build

Seems like its not ment for movement anymore and limited to power specsRight now lowering upkeep wouldnt change much cuz you should turn it off after e.g. sword 3 ends anyway

Reducing the upkeep would make Rising Momentum even weaker than currently is, which is amongst the few things which keeps Shiro from being a (slow) clown fiesta. This skill was already stripped off from quickness, then from superspeed, and now you want to reduce the cost, which instantly will make the character slower... in exchange for what? Not for damage, because every change of damage for power Herald in the last 18 months were direct nerfs, and the historic pattern is well clear here. So, what pitty effect you think that ANet will provide instead? Probably nothing, and for the price of saving the cost of 2 energy points a second they probably mesh up the code and make a comple of unintended bugs.

@Buran.3796 said:Reducing the upkeep would make Rising Momentum even weaker than currently is, which is amongst the few things which keeps Shiro from being a (slow) clown fiesta. This skill was already stripped off from quickness, then from superspeed, and now you want to reduce the cost, which instantly will make the character slower... in exchange for what? Not for damage, because every change of damage for power Herald in the last 18 months were direct nerfs, and the historic pattern is well clear here. So, what pitty effect you think that ANet will provide instead? Probably nothing, and for the price of saving the cost of 2 energy points a second they probably mesh up the code and make a comple of unintended bugs.

Thought so at first, but then you would be able to use Facet of Nature - Assassin with it which could be quite a DPS buff as well as some sustain. I still think that gameplay wise the newer legend Facets needs to be -2 rather than -3 because the impact is too big to be held any longer than 5 seconds on any legends and also it's stuck until used. I can see a lot of play in between legend swaps with charged mists if it wasn't so high.

@"Clownmug.8357" said:I beat you guys to it over a year ago: Impossible Odds Upkeep (PvP/WvW)

Of course the skill still had superspeed back then so it was considered "crazy" to make things consistent for all game modes.

I was honestly fine with it before the last nerf.

Edit: Typo.