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Trypophobia Awareness and Kormir's Library

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edited November 16, 2019 in Guild Wars 2 Discussion

Trypophobia Awareness.
It's been two years and I don't think anyone has commented on this.
Trypophobia. Trypophobia is a fear or disgust of closely-packed holes. People who have it feel queasy when looking at surfaces that have small holes gathered close together. For example, the head of a lotus seed pod or the body of a strawberry could trigger discomfort in someone with this phobia.

People have various degrees of Trypophobia, if you go to Kormir's library and look at the scrolls...if your skin starts to crawl it possibly means you have some level of Trypophobia.
Today, I was doing Kormir's story instance and I felt my skin begin to crawl when looking at the scrolls. I've forgotten that two years ago, I had to avoid staring at the walls for long due to the skin crawling feeling. The image in this post is at a slight angle, to hopefully to lessen the Trypophobia effect anyone may experience when looking at the picture. If you want to see if you have this phobia or not, you can do a google search for the word Trypophobia. If you do get anxiety or skin begins to crawl, you may experience that effect in Kormir's story instance. If you do, try not to look at the walls when doing the mission. When going to read her scrolls on the wall, I interact with them quickly and focus on the dialogue box to stop the skin crawling effect.

Update:
Wanted to add back in 2017, I didn't know what Trypophobia was. So, I tried to ignore the feeling back then. However, now I know what it is and I'm concern about players who may have more serious reaction to Trypophobia.
Update 2:
Added _Trypophobia Awareness _to to the top of this post for anyone that missed the title.

https://imgur.com/a/c3F9z2e

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trypophobia

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  • ugrakarma.9416ugrakarma.9416 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited November 9, 2019

    is just a very small part of history instance, just do what u had to do here and gone never need go back there,,, except if u didnt had the griffon collection yet.

    ah yeah i had small scale of Trypophobia too, related to anything with some hornet hives format, packed black holes is disgusting, i had a will to burn everything look in that way.

    main pvp: Khel the Undead(power reaper).

  • ugrakarma.9416ugrakarma.9416 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Ashantara.8731 said:
    I'm getting a feeling of unease and slight dizziness at extreme heights. Doing that JP in Ascalon for the Skyscale was quite trying, but I got it done. If someone's phobia is too strong to get past their unease, they really have only two options, as Dragon Priestess wrote.

    same too, but for some reason the games heights i find "relaxing", i had only a bit of adrenaline when jumping(dive spots) in-game from high heights and i like it,..., but in real life im very scared of high heights.

    main pvp: Khel the Undead(power reaper).

  • I think the best you can do is lower your graphic settings, especialy LOD distance.

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  • AgentMoore.9453AgentMoore.9453 Member ✭✭✭
    edited November 9, 2019

    Lots of helpful comments in this thread. I don't think anyone's asking ArenaNet to change their game because of phobias in this discussion, but rather giving tips for coping with them to people that love GW2 but hate/fear certain aspects.

    OP should consider changing their thread title to invite people to post coping mechanisms and heads ups for for multiple triggers encountered in the game so players can regulate their experience and take care of themselves. Can't avoid every nasty surprise, but it'd be a nice start and a healthy way to address kneejerk reactions.

    EDIT: Not really a phobia, but I have something called Misophonia which means that certain sounds grab my attention, destroy my focus, and give me unnatural angry and uncomfortable feelings. In general, it's sounds like crying babies, whispering, pen tapping, off-rhythm beats, etc. In GW2, it's certain instruments, repetitive mini noises (Ho-Ho-Tron, Toxic Hybrid), the Jacaranda scream, the overlapping dove coo'ing in Divinity's Reach ambient sound and certain level-up and combat sounds.

    In my case, the solution is to either completely shut off the master volume on the game, or go in and reduce the volume on different sound sliders. It's an annoying fix, but at least it's there.

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    Tip: do not google the Surinam toad.

  • Knighthonor.4061Knighthonor.4061 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @reapex.8546 said:
    It's been two years and I don't think anyone has commented on this.
    Trypophobia. Trypophobia is a fear or disgust of closely-packed holes. People who have it feel queasy when looking at surfaces that have small holes gathered close together. For example, the head of a lotus seed pod or the body of a strawberry could trigger discomfort in someone with this phobia.

    People have various degrees of Trypophobia, if you go to Kormir's library and look at the scrolls...if your skin starts to crawl it possibly means you have some level of Trypophobia.
    Today, I was doing Kormir's story instance and I felt my skin begin to crawl when looking at the scrolls. I've forgotten that two years ago, I had to avoid staring at the walls for long due to the skin crawling feeling. The image in this post is at a slight angle, to hopefully to lessen the Trypophobia effect anyone may experience when looking at the picture. If you want to see if you have this phobia or not, you can do a google search for the word Trypophobia. If you do get anxiety or skin begins to crawl, you may experience that effect in Kormir's story instance. If you do, try not to look at the walls when doing the mission. When going to read her scrolls on the wall, I interact with them quickly and focus on the dialogue box to stop the skin crawling effect.

    Update:
    Wanted to add back in 2017, I didn't know what Trypophobia was. So, I tried to ignore the feeling back then. However, now I know what it is and I'm concern about players who may have more serious reaction to Trypophobia.

    https://imgur.com/a/c3F9z2e

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trypophobia

    Slightly off topic, I wonder what causes this condition? What evolutionary development made humans fear/get irritated by this type of thing?

  • I don't know if it's been within the last 2 years (I'd guess so), but there was a thread on this topic previously.

    Actually, a few: https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/search?Search=trypophobia

  • Raknar.4735Raknar.4735 Member ✭✭✭

    Honorable mention to a lot of Orr textures. A lot of underwater stuff has a "holey" look to it.

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  • Randulf.7614Randulf.7614 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited November 9, 2019

    @Knighthonor.4061 said:

    @reapex.8546 said:
    It's been two years and I don't think anyone has commented on this.
    Trypophobia. Trypophobia is a fear or disgust of closely-packed holes. People who have it feel queasy when looking at surfaces that have small holes gathered close together. For example, the head of a lotus seed pod or the body of a strawberry could trigger discomfort in someone with this phobia.

    People have various degrees of Trypophobia, if you go to Kormir's library and look at the scrolls...if your skin starts to crawl it possibly means you have some level of Trypophobia.
    Today, I was doing Kormir's story instance and I felt my skin begin to crawl when looking at the scrolls. I've forgotten that two years ago, I had to avoid staring at the walls for long due to the skin crawling feeling. The image in this post is at a slight angle, to hopefully to lessen the Trypophobia effect anyone may experience when looking at the picture. If you want to see if you have this phobia or not, you can do a google search for the word Trypophobia. If you do get anxiety or skin begins to crawl, you may experience that effect in Kormir's story instance. If you do, try not to look at the walls when doing the mission. When going to read her scrolls on the wall, I interact with them quickly and focus on the dialogue box to stop the skin crawling effect.

    Update:
    Wanted to add back in 2017, I didn't know what Trypophobia was. So, I tried to ignore the feeling back then. However, now I know what it is and I'm concern about players who may have more serious reaction to Trypophobia.

    https://imgur.com/a/c3F9z2e

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trypophobia

    Slightly off topic, I wonder what causes this condition? What evolutionary development made humans fear/get irritated by this type of thing?

    There are a few theories. Most prevalent seem related to an evolved sense of avoiding poisonous or venomous plants and animals where such pattens can be commonly found in nature or related to a survival instinct to avoid patterns of disease where such symptoms appear on another (pox etc)

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  • Sarrs.4831Sarrs.4831 Member ✭✭✭

    @Just a flesh wound.3589 said:
    I have problems with viewing vistas. The camera movement when showing the scenery makes me really nauseated. I just close my eyes before I start the view and count to 10.

    Personally I just never watch them. I don't get sick or anything I just don't care lol. Just hit escape to get out of them as soon as they start and you get your map completion objective done.

  • reapex.8546reapex.8546 Member ✭✭✭

    @Inculpatus cedo.9234 said:
    I don't know if it's been within the last 2 years (I'd guess so), but there was a thread on this topic previously.

    Actually, a few: https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/search?Search=trypophobia

    Thank you, I didn't see Kormir's library reference but it's good to see other Trypophobia articles.

  • reapex.8546reapex.8546 Member ✭✭✭

    @Dragon Priestess.9760 said:
    I... I don't even know what to say about this.

    Just don't look at the walls. That's all you have to do.

    You really should read my post entirely, it's like you saw a small part of it. Your solution you proposed and the anxiety others experienced was referenced already. The post was made to bring awareness, I also discussed what I do to resolve things by not looking at the walls already. I'm not sure, why choose not to read the entire post before commenting or maybe you did and forgot what I said.

  • reapex.8546reapex.8546 Member ✭✭✭

    @Ashantara.8731 said:
    I'm getting a feeling of unease and slight dizziness at extreme heights. Doing that JP in Ascalon for the Skyscale was quite trying, but I got it done. If someone's phobia is too strong to get past their unease, they really have only two options, as Dragon Priestess wrote.

    Fear of heights from doing optional mount content can be resolved by mesmer portals. So, yes they have an alternative.
    Just like not looking at the walls is also an alternative.

  • reapex.8546reapex.8546 Member ✭✭✭

    @Raknar.4735 said:
    Honorable mention to a lot of Orr textures. A lot of underwater stuff has a "holey" look to it.

    Yeah, I forgot about those. Good reminder, thank you.

  • reapex.8546reapex.8546 Member ✭✭✭

    @Randulf.7614 said:

    @Knighthonor.4061 said:

    @reapex.8546 said:
    It's been two years and I don't think anyone has commented on this.
    Trypophobia. Trypophobia is a fear or disgust of closely-packed holes. People who have it feel queasy when looking at surfaces that have small holes gathered close together. For example, the head of a lotus seed pod or the body of a strawberry could trigger discomfort in someone with this phobia.

    People have various degrees of Trypophobia, if you go to Kormir's library and look at the scrolls...if your skin starts to crawl it possibly means you have some level of Trypophobia.
    Today, I was doing Kormir's story instance and I felt my skin begin to crawl when looking at the scrolls. I've forgotten that two years ago, I had to avoid staring at the walls for long due to the skin crawling feeling. The image in this post is at a slight angle, to hopefully to lessen the Trypophobia effect anyone may experience when looking at the picture. If you want to see if you have this phobia or not, you can do a google search for the word Trypophobia. If you do get anxiety or skin begins to crawl, you may experience that effect in Kormir's story instance. If you do, try not to look at the walls when doing the mission. When going to read her scrolls on the wall, I interact with them quickly and focus on the dialogue box to stop the skin crawling effect.

    Update:
    Wanted to add back in 2017, I didn't know what Trypophobia was. So, I tried to ignore the feeling back then. However, now I know what it is and I'm concern about players who may have more serious reaction to Trypophobia.

    https://imgur.com/a/c3F9z2e

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trypophobia

    Slightly off topic, I wonder what causes this condition? What evolutionary development made humans fear/get irritated by this type of thing?

    There are a few theories. Most prevalent seem related to an evolved sense of avoiding poisonous or venomous plants and animals where such pattens can be commonly found in nature or related to a survival instinct to avoid patterns of disease where such symptoms appear on another (pox etc)

    That's interesting, thank you.

  • reapex.8546reapex.8546 Member ✭✭✭

    @Danikat.8537 said:
    I don't have trypophobia, but I do have arachnophobia (fear of spiders) and other than the obvious trying not to look etc. one thing which helps me that might be relevant for other phobias is just allowing some time after a bad 'episode' to deal with how I'm feeling, however irrational that might be.

    For example if a spider in a game sets of my arachnophobia (doesn't always, some are unrealistic enough that it's fine or I only see them briefly at a time when I have too many other things to think about) that usually manifests as worrying there might be real spiders near me. So I get to a point where I can stop playing briefly and take some time to check the under side of the desk, under the chair etc. and just reassure myself that's not the case. (Or if I do find one I deal with it.) I'm not sure what the equivalent might be for other phobias, but whatever makes you feel better about the situation, however pointless it might seem.

    Yeah, I have a few that have arachnophobia and need to take breaks. Or they turn away while we deal with the spiders.
    I also heard there was suppose to be a Spider mount for Guildwars 2, but it was dismissed due to concerns about Arachnophobia. I'm not sure, how true that story is anymore. It was mentioned years ago.

  • reapex.8546reapex.8546 Member ✭✭✭

    @TheNecrosanct.4028 said:
    no one is required to cater to all the different phobias people could have.

    My post did not ask this or request this. I'm not sure, why you feel like I'm telling Anet to change. It's awareness post for anyone that doesn't know why they're freaking out when looking at the wall or feeling sick like I did years ago. Two years ago, I had no idea this condition existed. After learning about it, I've been able to address it more and not think something else was wrong with me. You read my post differently than what I had typed.

  • reapex.8546reapex.8546 Member ✭✭✭

    @ugrakarma.9416 said:
    is just a very small part of history instance, just do what u had to do here and gone never need go back there,,, except if u didnt had the griffon collection yet.

    ah yeah i had small scale of Trypophobia too, related to anything with some hornet hives format, packed black holes is disgusting, i had a will to burn everything look in that way.

    Yeah, I only went back there yesterday for the Griffon collection on my alt account. I forgot that I was avoiding that instance several years ago.

  • reapex.8546reapex.8546 Member ✭✭✭

    @LadyKitty.6120 said:
    Kitty's getting motion sickness with awful nauseous feeling if she's playing open-world stuff for any extended period (kinda limited to 30-60mins of open-world at a time) but she's kinda solved it by focusing solely on instanced content and only open-worlding for mandatory things like story and fast guild missions. So her solution is limiting the gameplay to what she can do and focusing on that and trying to keep it interesting.

    Kitty also knows some people with phobias related to textures and they've solved it by using ReShade in semi-extreme settings (like almost complete darkness around the character) to deal with areas that trigger their phobias. And if there's some areas that can't be dealt with by using reshade's filters, there might be an option of calling a friend to deal with that particular thing if it's not repetitive (if you have any gaming friends nearby).
    For trypophobia, reshade with strong blur at further than short distance (called "depth blur" or something like that") around the character should work as long as you keep a bit of distance from offending walls. You can deactivate the reshade preset for that when not in an area with holey walls.

    This vid should explain how to do basic setup on it (and look the video on this link as searching youtube might lead to another related video which would seriously trigger that particular phobia):

    I forgot about reshade and never thought of using it for this, thank you! :D

  • reapex.8546reapex.8546 Member ✭✭✭

    @Antycypator.9874 said:
    I think the best you can do is lower your graphic settings, especialy LOD distance.

    Yeah, my graphics are already lowered. So, I just look at the ground instead. I'll look into LOD distance too. Thank you :D

  • reapex.8546reapex.8546 Member ✭✭✭

    @Just a flesh wound.3589 said:
    I have problems with viewing vistas. The camera movement when showing the scenery makes me really nauseated. I just close my eyes before I start the view and count to 10.

    The game can’t remove everything that bothers everyone. If you can look away then that’s the best course of action.

    You can press the Escape key when viewing a vista. That way you won't have to close your eyes at all.
    Also, never said for the game to remove things. It was to bring more awareness to people who have Trypophobia when doing that story instance.

  • reapex.8546reapex.8546 Member ✭✭✭

    @AgentMoore.9453 said:
    Lots of helpful comments in this thread. I don't think anyone's asking ArenaNet to change their game because of phobias in this discussion, but rather giving tips for coping with them to people that love GW2 but hate/fear certain aspects.

    OP should consider changing their thread title to invite people to post coping mechanisms and heads ups for for multiple triggers encountered in the game so players can regulate their experience and take care of themselves. Can't avoid every nasty surprise, but it'd be a nice start and a healthy way to address kneejerk reactions.

    EDIT: Not really a phobia, but I have something called Misophonia which means that certain sounds grab my attention, destroy my focus, and give me unnatural angry and uncomfortable feelings. In general, it's sounds like crying babies, whispering, pen tapping, off-rhythm beats, etc. In GW2, it's certain instruments, repetitive mini noises (Ho-Ho-Tron, Toxic Hybrid), the Jacaranda scream, the overlapping dove coo'ing in Divinity's Reach ambient sound and certain level-up and combat sounds.

    In my case, the solution is to either completely shut off the master volume on the game, or go in and reduce the volume on different sound sliders. It's an annoying fix, but at least it's there.

    Thank you had, no idea about Misophonia until now. I did change the title to include awareness. I'm not sure about generalizing it to all phobias, because ArenaNet may feel it's off topic and lock the post. No idea but thank you for the great suggestion :D.

  • reapex.8546reapex.8546 Member ✭✭✭

    @Knighthonor.4061 said:

    @reapex.8546 said:
    It's been two years and I don't think anyone has commented on this.
    Trypophobia. Trypophobia is a fear or disgust of closely-packed holes. People who have it feel queasy when looking at surfaces that have small holes gathered close together. For example, the head of a lotus seed pod or the body of a strawberry could trigger discomfort in someone with this phobia.

    People have various degrees of Trypophobia, if you go to Kormir's library and look at the scrolls...if your skin starts to crawl it possibly means you have some level of Trypophobia.
    Today, I was doing Kormir's story instance and I felt my skin begin to crawl when looking at the scrolls. I've forgotten that two years ago, I had to avoid staring at the walls for long due to the skin crawling feeling. The image in this post is at a slight angle, to hopefully to lessen the Trypophobia effect anyone may experience when looking at the picture. If you want to see if you have this phobia or not, you can do a google search for the word Trypophobia. If you do get anxiety or skin begins to crawl, you may experience that effect in Kormir's story instance. If you do, try not to look at the walls when doing the mission. When going to read her scrolls on the wall, I interact with them quickly and focus on the dialogue box to stop the skin crawling effect.

    Update:
    Wanted to add back in 2017, I didn't know what Trypophobia was. So, I tried to ignore the feeling back then. However, now I know what it is and I'm concern about players who may have more serious reaction to Trypophobia.

    https://imgur.com/a/c3F9z2e

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trypophobia

    Slightly off topic, I wonder what causes this condition? What evolutionary development made humans fear/get irritated by this type of thing?

    Yeah, scientist are still figuring it out. Two years ago, I wouldn't have even made this post due to not knowing it was a condition at all and thinking it was just in my imagination. Then some people that don't have a condition or phobia, get all up in arms when a post is made about it. I'm glad the majority of the people that replied, are not like those people who rather not see phobias or conditions others are experiencing in games.

  • Aaralyna.3104Aaralyna.3104 Member ✭✭✭
    edited November 9, 2019

    @reapex.8546 said:
    I also heard there was suppose to be a Spider mount for Guildwars 2, but it was dismissed due to concerns about Arachnophobia. I'm not sure, how true that story is anymore. It was mentioned years ago.

    This is correct. There is a 3d model of it as well. I have arachnophobia among a lot of other phobias but that spider mount indeed did look scary to me to some extend (stationary its fine but when it actually moves that may change). The regular ones in game I can deal with fine. And I have seen spider mounts in another game that I could deal with no problem either (looked more like a fat tarantula). It just depends on how it looks.

    For the spider mount that got scrapped see the spoiler below. Avoid if you do not want to see it ofcourse.

  • reapex.8546reapex.8546 Member ✭✭✭

    @Aaralyna.3104 said:

    @reapex.8546 said:
    I also heard there was suppose to be a Spider mount for Guildwars 2, but it was dismissed due to concerns about Arachnophobia. I'm not sure, how true that story is anymore. It was mentioned years ago.

    This is correct. There is a 3d model of it as well. I have arachnophobia among a lot of other phobias but that spider mount indeed did look scary to me to some extend (stationary its fine but when it actually moves that may change). The regular ones in game I can deal with fine. And I have seen spider mounts in another game that I could deal with no problem either (looked more like a fat tarantula). It just depends on how it looks.

    For the spider mount that got scrapped see the spoiler below. Avoid if you do not want to see it ofcourse.

    Ah wow, thank you :D. Also, thanks for putting it as a spoiler too.

  • Just a flesh wound.3589Just a flesh wound.3589 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited November 9, 2019

    @reapex.8546 said:

    @Just a flesh wound.3589 said:
    I have problems with viewing vistas. The camera movement when showing the scenery makes me really nauseated. I just close my eyes before I start the view and count to 10.

    The game can’t remove everything that bothers everyone. If you can look away then that’s the best course of action.

    You can press the Escape key when viewing a vista. That way you won't have to close your eyes at all.
    Also, never said for the game to remove things. It was to bring more awareness to people who have Trypophobia when doing that story instance.

    You’re not going to achieve much by posting in the forum if your goal Is to bring awareness. The number of players who will read the thread is minuscule (31 reads at this point, not all of which are unique views) and most of those won’t have this condition. If you want to make a real difference I suggest you update the wiki and put in a note there about Kormir’s Library. A note in the wiki is longer lasting than a forum thread that disappears into the back pages after a couple of days.

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  • Jayden Reese.9542Jayden Reese.9542 Member ✭✭✭✭

    If you can look at it then ss it then modify it then post it yeah you don't have much of an issue. Ppl complained the instant new iphone w/e had a 3rd hole. There's thing that make me/others uncomfortable but we aren't posting pictures of spiders or clowns or w/e the thing that creeps you out.

  • @Dragon Priestess.9760 said:
    I... I don't even know what to say about this.

    Just don't look at the walls. That's all you have to do. If it's really that bad, you need to see a psychiatrist and get off of the game.

    There are people who have extreme phobia of cats. So should we remove every cat from the game? Including Charr?

    So your 'skin begins to crawl' when you look at holey, things.... so what?

    If you're not having a straight up panic attack, you can get over it and finish the instance just like everyone else.

    I've got to second the OP here, did you even read the post? They didn't ask for anything to be changed, just giving people a heads up.

  • Jimbru.6014Jimbru.6014 Member ✭✭✭

    Jumping puzzles and other high places can set off my fear of heights. Especially jumping puzzles, because most of them have mounts and gliders disabled, so you have no way to save yourself. Needless to say, I think the proposed change to remove falling damage reduction is absolutely terrible.

  • Hannelore.8153Hannelore.8153 Member ✭✭✭
    edited November 10, 2019

    ArenaNet is pretty good about phobias, other companies like Blizzard just ignore them, like the Swarm Host from SC2 (don't Google it if you have this). I guess the difference is, in the audience size and how cheap it is to lose some players.

    That's part of why they try to keep the artstyle kind of painted and cartoony, btw.

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  • reapex.8546reapex.8546 Member ✭✭✭

    @Just a flesh wound.3589 said:

    @reapex.8546 said:

    @Just a flesh wound.3589 said:
    I have problems with viewing vistas. The camera movement when showing the scenery makes me really nauseated. I just close my eyes before I start the view and count to 10.

    The game can’t remove everything that bothers everyone. If you can look away then that’s the best course of action.

    You can press the Escape key when viewing a vista. That way you won't have to close your eyes at all.
    Also, never said for the game to remove things. It was to bring more awareness to people who have Trypophobia when doing that story instance.

    You’re not going to achieve much by posting in the forum if your goal Is to bring awareness. The number of players who will read the thread is minuscule (31 reads at this point, not all of which are unique views) and most of those won’t have this condition. If you want to make a real difference I suggest you update the wiki and put in a note there about Kormir’s Library. A note in the wiki is longer lasting than a forum thread that disappears into the back pages after a couple of days.

    The thing, if one person reads it and tell someone else that person will know. Then the information may travel to someone else. So, if only a "miniscule" amount of players read it that is more than enough for me. Also, they don't have to have this condition. I know about arachnophobia despite not having the condition and I can empathize with people that have it. If I can empathize with others, then I can do better with interacting with them because I understand them better.

    However, thank you for the wiki suggestion. I have updated wiki.

  • reapex.8546reapex.8546 Member ✭✭✭

    @Jayden Reese.9542 said:
    If you can look at it then ss it then modify it then post it yeah you don't have much of an issue. Ppl complained the instant new iphone w/e had a 3rd hole. There's thing that make me/others uncomfortable but we aren't posting pictures of spiders or clowns or w/e the thing that creeps you out.

    I'm not sure what you're talking about, can you rephrase your message?

  • reapex.8546reapex.8546 Member ✭✭✭

    @Jimbru.6014 said:
    Jumping puzzles and other high places can set off my fear of heights. Especially jumping puzzles, because most of them have mounts and gliders disabled, so you have no way to save yourself. Needless to say, I think the proposed change to remove falling damage reduction is absolutely terrible.

    I'm sorry you experience that while doing jumping puzzles ><.
    Yeah, I feel falling damage reduction should at least be kept for mesmers but that a different topic.

  • reapex.8546reapex.8546 Member ✭✭✭

    @Hannelore.8153 said:
    ArenaNet is pretty good about phobias, other companies like Blizzard just ignore them

    I agree, I've seen Anet address several phobias and disabilities over the years. They didn't want to lose players that enjoyed their game.

  • drunkenpilot.9837drunkenpilot.9837 Member ✭✭✭
    edited November 10, 2019

    Slightly off topic, but I felt it necessary to point out that you should use better forum etiquette by not posting a separate comment to each and every reply you make. You can put them all in one post using quotes to highlight who you're addressing, otherwise you're spamming up the thread quite a bit as you've already done. By my count you have 17 back-to-back comment replies which could have all been condensed down into 2 separate replies. Posting a separate comment for every reply you make can bloat a thread's comment count unnecessarily and also create a more difficult reading experience for other users. Just a thought.

    Regarding the topic of phobias, I have a pretty severe phobia of insects in general. Spiders are a concern as anyone with arachnophobia can attest to, but mine is a more general fear of anything insect related. Yes, this even extends to in-game bugs like the roller beetle mount. If I think too much about it or zoom my camera in when using it, the fear kicks in and I have to dismount and go do something else for a while. Same goes for the wide array of bug enemies in this game--I have to sort of suspend my anxiety toward them and let my focus shift to other things while fighting these mobs otherwise I get the creepy-crawly skin sensation and on a few occasions it's caused me to have to stop playing the game for a little while (or just return to DR or LA to do some trading post stuff to get my mind off of the admittedly totally irrational fear I'm experiencing).

    But as the other commenters here have said, there's really no way Anet could possibly foresee and address every phobia that exists across the wide spectrum of the playerbase. The best that individuals with phobias can hope to do is find a way to distract themselves or use avoidance techniques to keep from freaking out about it. I'm sorry you had that experience with the library but I truly hope you aren't expecting Anet to change future development plans based on this topic.

    Either way, I hope you have a better gaming experience going forward.

  • reapex.8546reapex.8546 Member ✭✭✭

    @drunkenpilot.9837 said:
    Slightly off topic, but I felt it necessary to point out that you should use better forum etiquette by not posting a separate comment to each and every reply you make. You can put them all in one post using quotes to highlight who you're addressing, otherwise you're spamming up the thread quite a bit as you've already done. By my count you have 17 back-to-back comment replies which could have all been condensed down into 2 separate replies. Posting a separate comment for every reply you make can bloat a thread's comment count unnecessarily and also create a more difficult reading experience for other users. Just a thought.

    Regarding the topic of phobias, I have a pretty severe phobia of insects in general. Spiders are a concern as anyone with arachnophobia can attest to, but mine is a more general fear of anything insect related. Yes, this even extends to in-game bugs like the roller beetle mount. If I think too much about it or zoom my camera in when using it, the fear kicks in and I have to dismount and go do something else for a while. Same goes for the wide array of bug enemies in this game--I have to sort of suspend my anxiety toward them and let my focus shift to other things while fighting these mobs otherwise I get the creepy-crawly skin sensation and on a few occasions it's caused me to have to stop playing the game for a little while (or just return to DR or LA to do some trading post stuff to get my mind off of the admittedly totally irrational fear I'm experiencing).

    But as the other commenters here have said, there's really no way Anet could possibly foresee and address every phobia that exists across the wide spectrum of the playerbase. The best that individuals with phobias can hope to do is find a way to distract themselves or use avoidance techniques to keep from freaking out about it. I'm sorry you had that experience with the library but I truly hope you aren't expecting Anet to change future development plans based on this topic.

    Either way, I hope you have a better gaming experience going forward.

    @drunkenpilot.9837 said:
    Slightly off topic, but I felt it necessary to point out that you should use better forum etiquette by not posting a separate comment to each and every reply you make. You can put them all in one post using quotes to highlight who you're addressing, otherwise you're spamming up the thread quite a bit as you've already done. By my count you have 17 back-to-back comment replies which could have all been condensed down into 2 separate replies. Posting a separate comment for every reply you make can bloat a thread's comment count unnecessarily and also create a more difficult reading experience for other users. Just a thought.

    Regarding the topic of phobias, I have a pretty severe phobia of insects in general. Spiders are a concern as anyone with arachnophobia can attest to, but mine is a more general fear of anything insect related. Yes, this even extends to in-game bugs like the roller beetle mount. If I think too much about it or zoom my camera in when using it, the fear kicks in and I have to dismount and go do something else for a while. Same goes for the wide array of bug enemies in this game--I have to sort of suspend my anxiety toward them and let my focus shift to other things while fighting these mobs otherwise I get the creepy-crawly skin sensation and on a few occasions it's caused me to have to stop playing the game for a little while (or just return to DR or LA to do some trading post stuff to get my mind off of the admittedly totally irrational fear I'm experiencing).

    But as the other commenters here have said, there's really no way Anet could possibly foresee and address every phobia that exists across the wide spectrum of the playerbase. The best that individuals with phobias can hope to do is find a way to distract themselves or use avoidance techniques to keep from freaking out about it. I'm sorry you had that experience with the library but I truly hope you aren't expecting Anet to change future development plans based on this topic.

    Either way, I hope you have a better gaming experience going forward.

    Thank you for your opinion about forum post.
    In regards, to phobias I'm glad you found a solution that works for you..
    In response, to your message about Anet making changes. I never recommended or suggested that once.

  • @reapex.8546 said:

    @Just a flesh wound.3589 said:

    @reapex.8546 said:

    @Just a flesh wound.3589 said:
    I have problems with viewing vistas. The camera movement when showing the scenery makes me really nauseated. I just close my eyes before I start the view and count to 10.

    The game can’t remove everything that bothers everyone. If you can look away then that’s the best course of action.

    You can press the Escape key when viewing a vista. That way you won't have to close your eyes at all.
    Also, never said for the game to remove things. It was to bring more awareness to people who have Trypophobia when doing that story instance.

    You’re not going to achieve much by posting in the forum if your goal Is to bring awareness. The number of players who will read the thread is minuscule (31 reads at this point, not all of which are unique views) and most of those won’t have this condition. If you want to make a real difference I suggest you update the wiki and put in a note there about Kormir’s Library. A note in the wiki is longer lasting than a forum thread that disappears into the back pages after a couple of days.

    The thing, if one person reads it and tell someone else that person will know. Then the information may travel to someone else. So, if only a "miniscule" amount of players read it that is more than enough for me. Also, they don't have to have this condition. I know about arachnophobia despite not having the condition and I can empathize with people that have it. If I can empathize with others, then I can do better with interacting with them because I understand them better.

    However, thank you for the wiki suggestion. I have updated wiki.

    Tip: You neglected to sign your Wiki edit (use 4 tildes ~~~~ at the end of your edit). Also, it might have been better placed on this page: https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/The_Sanctum

  • you know? I had pretty strong arachnophobia. And I dealt with it. Today I share my shower with several spiders and I do not care. They are just spiders, utterly harmless.

    This is the way to go. Not 'I have this and that, please remove' because if you do that for everyone, nothing in the game will be left. 998 out of 1000 players suffer, because of 2.

  • reapex.8546reapex.8546 Member ✭✭✭
    edited November 10, 2019

    @Inculpatus cedo.9234 said:

    @reapex.8546 said:

    @Just a flesh wound.3589 said:

    @reapex.8546 said:

    @Just a flesh wound.3589 said:
    I have problems with viewing vistas. The camera movement when showing the scenery makes me really nauseated. I just close my eyes before I start the view and count to 10.

    The game can’t remove everything that bothers everyone. If you can look away then that’s the best course of action.

    You can press the Escape key when viewing a vista. That way you won't have to close your eyes at all.
    Also, never said for the game to remove things. It was to bring more awareness to people who have Trypophobia when doing that story instance.

    You’re not going to achieve much by posting in the forum if your goal Is to bring awareness. The number of players who will read the thread is minuscule (31 reads at this point, not all of which are unique views) and most of those won’t have this condition. If you want to make a real difference I suggest you update the wiki and put in a note there about Kormir’s Library. A note in the wiki is longer lasting than a forum thread that disappears into the back pages after a couple of days.

    The thing, if one person reads it and tell someone else that person will know. Then the information may travel to someone else. So, if only a "miniscule" amount of players read it that is more than enough for me. Also, they don't have to have this condition. I know about arachnophobia despite not having the condition and I can empathize with people that have it. If I can empathize with others, then I can do better with interacting with them because I understand them better.

    However, thank you for the wiki suggestion. I have updated wiki.

    Tip: You neglected to sign your Wiki edit (use 4 tildes ~~~~ at the end of your edit). Also, it might have been better placed on this page: https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/The_Sanctum

    Unfortunately, I'm not that use to wiki syntax. ArenaNet said, if we weren't use to using wiki we can just click the leave feedback link and someone more experience can correctly format our post. So, it's not really neglected it's more like I don't want to mess anything up on the wiki page. I choose to put it on the mission page where the player first reaches the instance. Since, that will be their first encounter with that location and they may look up information on the mission rather than the name of the building they're in.

  • reapex.8546reapex.8546 Member ✭✭✭

    @VAHNeunzehnsechundsiebzig.3618 said:
    you know? I had pretty strong arachnophobia. And I dealt with it. Today I share my shower with several spiders and I do not care. They are just spiders, utterly harmless.

    This is the way to go. Not 'I have this and that, please remove' because if you do that for everyone, nothing in the game will be left. 998 out of 1000 players suffer, because of 2.

    You didn't read my post, if you did you would see that I never stated what you're addressing.

  • Ayakaru.6583Ayakaru.6583 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Hannelore.8153 said:
    ArenaNet is pretty good about phobias, other companies like Blizzard just ignore them, like the Swarm Host from SC2 (don't Google it if you have this). I guess the difference is, in the audience size and how cheap it is to lose some players.

    That's part of why they try to keep the artstyle kind of painted and cartoony, btw.

    In their defence, if your game is about the infestation of an insectoid master race, you wouldn't expect them to cater to people with such a fobia.

    GW2 is already very fobia friendly.
    Sometimes a little too much even soncr it was a leading argument against the spider mount. Even though there are obligatory spider bosses in the game already

    To defeat the dragons, see the good in them.
    Zhaitan reunites lost ones, primordus creates fertile land, mordremoth spreads the green, and jormag..
    ..jormag? Who's that?

  • I'm usually very sympathetic to psychological... issues? such as phobias, but I feel that the people suffering from them have to understand that they are a minority. And people with super-specific rare phobias are a very, very small minority. I don't mean to be rude by any means, but this seems to me like special snowflake behavior. The problem here is not on Arenanet's end, but rather the player's in question. Thus I feel like it's up to them to deal with it.

    If Arenanet starts removing holes from the game, then they pretty much have to acknowledge other rare phobias too, or they get called out for discrimination and unfairness. And if they remove absolutely everything someone might be scared of, we're not going to have a game left to play.

    I don't personally suffer from phobias, but there has been some great advice in this thread from people who do. If it's really bad to the point where playing the game becomes impossible, seeking professional advice or considering other games are very viable options.

  • @AgentMoore.9453 said:

    @Hevoskuuri.3891 said:
    I'm usually very sympathetic to psychological... issues? such as phobias, but I feel that the people suffering from them have to understand that they are a minority.

    They do. Telling them this is not helpful and implies that because not 'enough' people feel the same way, their fears and discomfort are not valid.

    I never meant to imply that anyone's fears or discomfort aren't valid or acceptable. It just so happens that I personally know people with different kinds of phobias, and most of them accept their situation and deal with it gracefully, and all my sympathies go to them. And then a few of them constantly demand attention, complain how things should be changed to suit them better, and feel entitled to be treated differently because of their issues. And these aren't even reasonable requests or constructive suggestions, but rather completely absurd ideas in the neighborhood of changing official country flags because the patterns in some of them cause discomfort to the phobic in question. And that right there is most definitely special snowflake behavior.

    Now, as to my above post as a whole, I did not realize that OP was not in fact asking/demanding for anything at all to be changed or removed within the game. Despite reading their post twice, I still somehow got the impression they were asking for Arenanet to step in, instead of just raising awareness. This was a brainfart on my part, no excuses. I stand corrected, and deeply apologize. Also, thank you AgentMoore.9453 for setting me straight.

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