Fed up with unhealthy mechanics - taking a break until fixed. — Guild Wars 2 Forums

Fed up with unhealthy mechanics - taking a break until fixed.

Just letting know to devs in case someone is gathering customer's feedback,
that I am tired from unhealthy mechanics in PVP and decided to uninstall GW2 until things got fixed (saving my nerves, you know).
Reasons:
1) Mesmer class - too much survivability - too easy to spam conditions (check HappyNo's recent video on YT to find out why exactly it's stupidly OP).
And it's 2-4 Mesmers in every match I play! This is a joke! :)
2) Cloak in general - too much accessability, uptime and zero penalty to using it (can hit from cloak, can move without restrictions etc..).
3) Ranged damage is too high (need balance risk/reward ratio if you want to stay away from battle but shooting ppl) - Soulbeast, for example can hit hard from afar, being cloaked and have decent tankyness.
However, I am enjoying fights between Warriors, Guardians, Reapers involved - trying to outCC your contender - good stuff!
I play 1,5yr with Guardian (~3000matches) and Warrior (~400matches).
It's a good game and perhaps, developers will fix current balance, so more people will come out for play, because now it sucks.
Sorry for my english :)
Be peace!

Comments

  • @Ashimmu.4219 is there a reason why didnt you take counterpick to mesmers if you see them 2-4 in each game?
    also if you are fed up with them climb out and you wont see that much of them. I see 1-3 of them max and thats with me being one of the 1-3.

  • Odik.4587Odik.4587 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited November 26, 2019

    https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/discussion/87972/guardian-pvp-videos#latest

    P.S.: x0,5 speed is better because game is too fast.
    I play 1,5yr with Guardian (~3000matches) and Warrior (~400matches).

    From the gameplay it seems like you have 20 games total.
    No wonder the game is dead :joy:

  • Kondor.2904Kondor.2904 Member ✭✭✭

    @Odik.4587 said:
    https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/discussion/87972/guardian-pvp-videos#latest

    P.S.: x0,5 speed is better because game is too fast.
    I play 1,5yr with Guardian (~3000matches) and Warrior (~400matches).

    From the gameplay it seems like you have 20 games total.
    No wonder the game is dead :joy:

    At first I was sceptical about your gameplay judgement, then I watched the video.
    Good thing such forum posters have no influence over balance decisions. Oh wait... :'(

  • Burnfall.9573Burnfall.9573 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited November 26, 2019

    @Odik.4587 said:
    https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/discussion/87972/guardian-pvp-videos#latest

    P.S.: x0,5 speed is better because game is too fast.
    I play 1,5yr with Guardian (~3000matches) and Warrior (~400matches).

    From the gameplay it seems like you have 20 games total.
    No wonder the game is dead :joy

    and this is the exact attitude Anet is tolerating and no wonder why guild wars 2 will continue down in its toxic state to complete diminish without no return.

    -I get called out and accused of disrespecting Anet: which i never did, instead i continue to attack the root cause of the problem-Toxicity-

    Guess what!!

    Aside from Thief Profession doing the game bidding of keeping players away from playing the game, Toxic Players are also doing it.

    Toxic players as players who demoralize, shame and belittles other players who voice their concerns with experiences they have.

    IT DOES NOT MATTER WHAT EXPERIENCE OR HOW MANY EXPERIENCES THEY HAVE, WHAT MATTERS IS THEIR VOICE MATTERS TOO

    It is those exact players whom the world will come to listen first; not yours or mine but theirs.

    Guess what!!

    What they say will greatly have 2 times or more greater effect than you and me.

    Guess what again!!

    EVERYONE DESERVE THE RIGHT OF VOICE
    (following forum rules obliviously)

    The Op is important and value as everyone else.

    Toxicity have no say when it comes to treating one another

    Keep Toxicity where it belongs, in the trash

  • Serenity.6304Serenity.6304 Member ✭✭✭

    Since PvP is a neglected game mode and gets changes only rarely, the only way to enjoy it is to have an attitude of embracing the current state and making the best out of it. No point in complaining. Everyone is better off thinking of ways to counter stuff or by learning new classes. And imagine that‘s me talking: playing core nec and getting spawncamped by a DE not packing corrosive poison cloud one game yesterday. PMA for life haha

    ~ Miyu Chan / Tanky Miyu / Fyora ♥

  • @Serenity.6304 said:
    Since PvP is a neglected game mode and gets changes only rarely, the only way to enjoy it is to have an attitude of embracing the current state and making the best out of it. No point in complaining. Everyone is better off thinking of ways to counter stuff or by learning new classes. And imagine that‘s me talking: playing core nec and getting spawncamped by a DE not packing corrosive poison cloud one game yesterday. PMA for life haha

    doesnt core necro run around with 25khp, gigashroud and aoe reveal throght walls? on top of marks that can hit stealthed targets?

  • Serenity.6304Serenity.6304 Member ✭✭✭

    @Leonidrex.5649 said:

    @Serenity.6304 said:
    Since PvP is a neglected game mode and gets changes only rarely, the only way to enjoy it is to have an attitude of embracing the current state and making the best out of it. No point in complaining. Everyone is better off thinking of ways to counter stuff or by learning new classes. And imagine that‘s me talking: playing core nec and getting spawncamped by a DE not packing corrosive poison cloud one game yesterday. PMA for life haha

    doesnt core necro run around with 25khp, gigashroud and aoe reveal throght walls? on top of marks that can hit stealthed targets?

    True that. Still has hardcounters like DE

    ~ Miyu Chan / Tanky Miyu / Fyora ♥

  • @Serenity.6304 said:

    @Leonidrex.5649 said:

    @Serenity.6304 said:
    Since PvP is a neglected game mode and gets changes only rarely, the only way to enjoy it is to have an attitude of embracing the current state and making the best out of it. No point in complaining. Everyone is better off thinking of ways to counter stuff or by learning new classes. And imagine that‘s me talking: playing core nec and getting spawncamped by a DE not packing corrosive poison cloud one game yesterday. PMA for life haha

    doesnt core necro run around with 25khp, gigashroud and aoe reveal throght walls? on top of marks that can hit stealthed targets?

    True that. Still has hardcounters like DE

    I play core mes 1shot, and core necro brings alot of truble my way usually. Always thought DE would be in similar boat, then again DE removes reveal, has more stealth, lower burst but bigger sustained damage and more mobility, so im guessing he doesnt burst you down in 1 go but rather takes you apart in 3-4 tries.

  • Serenity.6304Serenity.6304 Member ✭✭✭

    Can only talk for me and some core nec friends, I am not a pro and only in p1 and p2 every season but even if I dodge the DE, if I have no way to use LoS I am getting ganked like immediately. Power Mes is easier to fight, burst easier to dodge and afterwards vulnerable.

    ~ Miyu Chan / Tanky Miyu / Fyora ♥

  • Bigpapasmurf.5623Bigpapasmurf.5623 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Burnfall.9573 said:

    @Odik.4587 said:
    https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/discussion/87972/guardian-pvp-videos#latest

    P.S.: x0,5 speed is better because game is too fast.
    I play 1,5yr with Guardian (~3000matches) and Warrior (~400matches).

    From the gameplay it seems like you have 20 games total.
    No wonder the game is dead :joy

    and this is the exact attitude Anet is tolerating and no wonder why guild wars 2 will continue down in its toxic state to complete diminish without no return.

    -I get called out and accused of disrespecting Anet: which i never did, instead i continue to attack the root cause of the problem-Toxicity-

    Guess what!!

    Aside from Thief Profession doing the game bidding of keeping players away from playing the game, Toxic Players are also doing it.

    Toxic players as players who demoralize, shame and belittles other players who voice their concerns with experiences they have.

    IT DOES NOT MATTER WHAT EXPERIENCE OR HOW MANY EXPERIENCES THEY HAVE, WHAT MATTERS IS THEIR VOICE MATTERS TOO

    It is those exact players whom the world will come to listen first; not yours or mine but theirs.

    Guess what!!

    What they say will greatly have 2 times or more greater effect than you and me.

    Guess what again!!

    EVERYONE DESERVE THE RIGHT OF VOICE
    (following forum rules obliviously)

    The Op is important and value as everyone else.

    Toxicity have no say when it comes to treating one another

    Keep Toxicity where it belongs, in the trash

    Sooooo because toxicity is bad in PvP....does that make PvP trash then?

    Red = Dead...or someone runs away. Either way it's gone.
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  • rowdy.5107rowdy.5107 Member ✭✭✭

    lol he plays the 2 cheesiest op classes... yet he wants to nerf everything else....

  • Psycoprophet.8107Psycoprophet.8107 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @rowdy.5107 said:
    lol he plays the 2 cheesiest op classes... yet he wants to nerf everything else....

    I kno right lmao
    Posting the stuff he does why would he even admit mesmer and necro are his fav's lol tho it makes sense now cuz those to classes have historically had a hate on for thieves. It's weird he never commented on scourges oppressive nature along side fb in wvw? I mean wouldn't that go along with his whole anti toxicity/anti broken mechanics charade he's got going on?
    I can guess why lol

  • Hey, chill down folks - It's just an opinion of mediocre player (me) - you may like it or not - it's for dev's eyes primarily - I still hope someday things will change.

  • @Burnfall.9573 said:

    @Odik.4587 said:
    https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/discussion/87972/guardian-pvp-videos#latest

    P.S.: x0,5 speed is better because game is too fast.
    I play 1,5yr with Guardian (~3000matches) and Warrior (~400matches).

    From the gameplay it seems like you have 20 games total.
    No wonder the game is dead :joy

    and this is the exact attitude Anet is tolerating and no wonder why guild wars 2 will continue down in its toxic state to complete diminish without no return.

    -I get called out and accused of disrespecting Anet: which i never did, instead i continue to attack the root cause of the problem-Toxicity-

    Guess what!!

    Aside from Thief Profession doing the game bidding of keeping players away from playing the game, Toxic Players are also doing it.

    Toxic players as players who demoralize, shame and belittles other players who voice their concerns with experiences they have.

    IT DOES NOT MATTER WHAT EXPERIENCE OR HOW MANY EXPERIENCES THEY HAVE, WHAT MATTERS IS THEIR VOICE MATTERS TOO

    It is those exact players whom the world will come to listen first; not yours or mine but theirs.

    Guess what!!

    What they say will greatly have 2 times or more greater effect than you and me.

    Guess what again!!

    EVERYONE DESERVE THE RIGHT OF VOICE
    (following forum rules obliviously)

    The Op is important and value as everyone else.

    Toxicity have no say when it comes to treating one another

    Keep Toxicity where it belongs, in the trash

    Again this boring teef hater ...no matter what discussion he will find a Spot to hate on teef 😴...

  • Psycoprophet.8107Psycoprophet.8107 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Raiden The Beast.3016 said:

    @Burnfall.9573 said:

    @Odik.4587 said:
    https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/discussion/87972/guardian-pvp-videos#latest

    P.S.: x0,5 speed is better because game is too fast.
    I play 1,5yr with Guardian (~3000matches) and Warrior (~400matches).

    From the gameplay it seems like you have 20 games total.
    No wonder the game is dead :joy

    and this is the exact attitude Anet is tolerating and no wonder why guild wars 2 will continue down in its toxic state to complete diminish without no return.

    -I get called out and accused of disrespecting Anet: which i never did, instead i continue to attack the root cause of the problem-Toxicity-

    Guess what!!

    Aside from Thief Profession doing the game bidding of keeping players away from playing the game, Toxic Players are also doing it.

    Toxic players as players who demoralize, shame and belittles other players who voice their concerns with experiences they have.

    IT DOES NOT MATTER WHAT EXPERIENCE OR HOW MANY EXPERIENCES THEY HAVE, WHAT MATTERS IS THEIR VOICE MATTERS TOO

    It is those exact players whom the world will come to listen first; not yours or mine but theirs.

    Guess what!!

    What they say will greatly have 2 times or more greater effect than you and me.

    Guess what again!!

    EVERYONE DESERVE THE RIGHT OF VOICE
    (following forum rules obliviously)

    The Op is important and value as everyone else.

    Toxicity have no say when it comes to treating one another

    Keep Toxicity where it belongs, in the trash

    Again this boring teef hater ...no matter what discussion he will find a Spot to hate on teef 😴...

    It's his shtick lol

  • @SeikeNz.3526 said:
    play guardian and warrior 2 most op classes right now, die to a mesmer one of the weakests, ask for nerfs

    so weak than bots are runing a 50% win ratio in gold using mesmer(mirage)

  • Bigpapasmurf.5623Bigpapasmurf.5623 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @megilandil.7506 said:

    @SeikeNz.3526 said:
    play guardian and warrior 2 most op classes right now, die to a mesmer one of the weakests, ask for nerfs

    so weak than bots are runing a 50% win ratio in gold using mesmer(mirage)

    My thoery is that Mirages are hated that people focus them. If a bot runs it, it can be a bit unpredictible to nail down, thus some people will be more inclined to focus them, thus leaving caps/points to do so, thus teh rest of the team carries their 50% win rate

    Red = Dead...or someone runs away. Either way it's gone.
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  • Odik.4587Odik.4587 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Bigpapasmurf.5623 said:

    @megilandil.7506 said:

    @SeikeNz.3526 said:
    play guardian and warrior 2 most op classes right now, die to a mesmer one of the weakests, ask for nerfs

    so weak than bots are runing a 50% win ratio in gold using mesmer(mirage)

    My thoery is that Mirages are hated that people focus them. If a bot runs it, it can be a bit unpredictible to nail down, thus some people will be more inclined to focus them, thus leaving caps/points to do so, thus teh rest of the team carries their 50% win rate

    I can bet his own winrate below 50%, must hurt that bot is better than him (and definitely better than OP). In fact all bots have an absurd amount of games and rating around ~1000

  • @Odik.4587 said:

    @Bigpapasmurf.5623 said:

    @megilandil.7506 said:

    @SeikeNz.3526 said:
    play guardian and warrior 2 most op classes right now, die to a mesmer one of the weakests, ask for nerfs

    so weak than bots are runing a 50% win ratio in gold using mesmer(mirage)

    My thoery is that Mirages are hated that people focus them. If a bot runs it, it can be a bit unpredictible to nail down, thus some people will be more inclined to focus them, thus leaving caps/points to do so, thus teh rest of the team carries their 50% win rate

    I can bet his own winrate below 50%, must hurt that bot is better than him (and definitely better than OP). In fact all bots have an absurd amount of games and rating around ~1000

    lol, around 1000? i have monitorized someones that i encountered staying stable at 1300+ and having peaks above 1450+, and bots run mirage for the high survibability and presion skill chain they have, bots run classes that are efectives using closed skill rotations( the true cancer of any pvp game) and now the top class on it is mirage

  • Radagascar.6231Radagascar.6231 Member ✭✭
    edited November 29, 2019

    Players like you are the reason this game is massively imbalanced. You have no sense of what is ACTUALLY busted. (Sidenote: Mesmers are getting dunked on come Dec 3. while Monkeybrand and lolRev remain untouched). It is mind boggling to think that players like you have any sort of influence on balance.

  • Oh, come on :)) Are you gonna tell that Mesmers are ok? What's your main, friend?

  • @Serenity.6304 said:
    Can only talk for me and some core nec friends, I am not a pro and only in p1 and p2 every season but even if I dodge the DE, if I have no way to use LoS I am getting ganked like immediately. Power Mes is easier to fight, burst easier to dodge and afterwards vulnerable.

    Staff, shroud.. Los, keep moving.. Run while spectral walking and port back.

    Core counter is a good s/d.. Maaaybe spam staff

  • Dreddo.9865Dreddo.9865 Member ✭✭✭

    You all found his video worthy to speak about but couldn't make a single comment on what he points out. My guess is that people reading these posts might expect some more intelligent comments from those thinking themselves 'PvP experts' but then again it could be they have set their expectations too high. ;)

  • Leonidrex.5649Leonidrex.5649 Member ✭✭✭

    @Dreddo.9865 said:
    You all found his video worthy to speak about but couldn't make a single comment on what he points out. My guess is that people reading these posts might expect some more intelligent comments from those thinking themselves 'PvP experts' but then again it could be they have set their expectations too high. ;)

    or maybe having 5 good players on coms playing against 5 randoms in unranked was doomed to end this way?