Can you dye the Starlight Wings Backpack?

Thanks for the help!

Yes

@Josiah.2967 said:Thanks for the help!

@"Zexanima.7851" said:Yes

@Josiah.2967 said:Thanks for the help!

I appreciate the video. She doesn't show us the backpack after dying it, so it is still unclear to me.

@Josiah.2967 said:

@"Zexanima.7851" said:Yes

@Josiah.2967 said:Thanks for the help!

The backpack and guilder both have 4 dye channels.

@Fire Attunement.9835 said:You can! It has four dye channels.

ETA: The backpack and the glider each have four dye channels, to clarify.

Any plans on making existing Backpieces/Gliders dyeable?

@lokh.2695 said:

@"Fire Attunement.9835" said:You can! It has four dye channels.

ETA: The backpack and the glider each have four dye channels, to clarify.

They said this about the previous backpieces: “While we cannot add dye channels to existing backpieces, keep an eye out for dyeable backpacks of different styles in the future”[source]

@Just a flesh wound.3589 said:

@lokh.2695 said:

@"Fire Attunement.9835" said:You can! It has four dye channels.

ETA: The backpack and the glider each have four dye channels, to clarify.

Sad story is sad, not that I had any hopes in this regard. ANet never looks back at things.

Anyway, thanks for the info.

@Just a flesh wound.3589 said:

@lokh.2695 said:

@"Fire Attunement.9835" said:You can! It has four dye channels.

ETA: The backpack and the glider each have four dye channels, to clarify.

I've seen that quote, but I really don't think that can be the case. Even if there's some sort of technical issue with changing an existing item, they could handle it like they did with other items by allowing players who have an existing item to be able to get a new one with upgraded functionality either by an in-game mail or from a vendor. This is pretty much what they did when they changed "town clothes" to be replaced by the outfit system.

Now, whether that's something that is worth the work that would take, I don't know. I'd love to see some of my existing back pieces (particularly the ones that have a matching glider) to have dye channels, but there's a lot of other stuff I'd like to see developed, such as additional elite specs, features, etc.

@Dahkeus.8243 said:

@Just a flesh wound.3589 said:

@lokh.2695 said:

@"Fire Attunement.9835" said:You can! It has four dye channels.

ETA: The backpack and the glider each have four dye channels, to clarify.

When they say they can't do it they mean there's not enough money in it to justify spending the time and resources to do so.

They could do it, they've proven its possible, it's just not worth it.

@lokh.2695 said:

@Just a flesh wound.3589 said:

@lokh.2695 said:

@"Fire Attunement.9835" said:You can! It has four dye channels.

ETA: The backpack and the glider each have four dye channels, to clarify.

See also https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/discussion/93929/should-arena-net-revisit-gliders-with-back-items-and-make-them-dyable

@lokh.2695 said:

@Just a flesh wound.3589 said:

@lokh.2695 said:

@"Fire Attunement.9835" said:You can! It has four dye channels.

ETA: The backpack and the glider each have four dye channels, to clarify.

Through, can't they simply redo the old ones? You redo it, release it, offer it for free for those who already had it (can be checked in account) and then delete the ancient version? Everyone would be happy.Same price for players who have it, same price for one without it. Only 1 to pay. (Speak about backpacks)

(Edit: I speak about recreating the backpacks using the new code/asset type, I'm not asking to do it on the existing backpacks.)

@hugo.4705 said:

@lokh.2695 said:

@Just a flesh wound.3589 said:

@lokh.2695 said:

@"Fire Attunement.9835" said:You can! It has four dye channels.

ETA: The backpack and the glider each have four dye channels, to clarify.

Here’s a dev discussing making previous backpacks dyeable.

Tidgepot.3285

Substance EBack items also take damage like armor and thus are not the same thing as accessories or weapons. They never got dye channels likely for the same reason that we only had the guild backpack at launch, it was never finished. Backpacks will remain un-dyable so Anet can sell black and white wing sets. Plain and simple.

@hugo.4705 said:

@lokh.2695 said:

@Just a flesh wound.3589 said:

@lokh.2695 said:

@"Fire Attunement.9835" said:You can! It has four dye channels.

ETA: The backpack and the glider each have four dye channels, to clarify.

Why stop at same price. I would easily be willing to pay 100 gems to upgrade my backpack/glider combo to a dyable version. In the future only sell the new one. Current ones can be upgraded with an item for 100 gems. Seems like a win/win.

@Just a flesh wound.3589 said:

@hugo.4705 said:

@lokh.2695 said:

@Just a flesh wound.3589 said:

@lokh.2695 said:

@"Fire Attunement.9835" said:You can! It has four dye channels.

ETA: The backpack and the glider each have four dye channels, to clarify.

Tidgepot.3285

Substance EBack items also take damage like armor and thus are not the same thing as accessories or weapons. They never got dye channels likely for the same reason that we only had the guild backpack at launch, it was never finished. Backpacks will remain un-dyable so Anet can sell black and white wing sets. Plain and simple.

Yeah saw that, but now that this new item category/asset type has been created, we have dyable capes backpacks and dyable backpacks. They can simply recreate those ancient backpacks with the new code, and erase the ancients from existence. And of course it requires resources and work, but I would say as anything else added in that game. Mounts in the past were also a technical difficulty and they managed to bypass it (Your character model swap to a mount+player on it model).Sure it will require some times but they can do it." issue of categorization and what certain types of assets can do" " a workaround could be a new asset type", they did it, we have dyable backpack, we don't speak about a non existing feature.

I don't ask them to upgrade on the existing backpacks, I ask them to erase them and to use their new asset type.Edited my comment, yeah it was unclear.

@hugo.4705 said:

@Just a flesh wound.3589 said:

@hugo.4705 said:

@lokh.2695 said:

@Just a flesh wound.3589 said:

@lokh.2695 said:

@"Fire Attunement.9835" said:You can! It has four dye channels.

ETA: The backpack and the glider each have four dye channels, to clarify.

Tidgepot.3285

Substance EBack items also take damage like armor and thus are not the same thing as accessories or weapons. They never got dye channels likely for the same reason that we only had the guild backpack at launch, it was never finished. Backpacks will remain un-dyable so Anet can sell black and white wing sets. Plain and simple.

So, recreate all the old backpacks then erase everyone’s backpieces? Is this only gemstore backpieces (52 of them) or does it include all back pieces (260 total skins)?

Even if it’s “only” the gemstore backpacks, redoing that many undoubtably is a lot more work than it appears. For one thing as far as I know you can’t remove items from the wardrobe, so deleting isn’t an option which means the wardrobe would have to be expanded to handle all these upgraded backpacks. Also, redoing all those backpacks (presumably for free because I can just imagine what the forumites would have to say about getting charged twice), checking 11 million accounts for the skins and then mailing them out to those accounts is a lot of expense for no extra income.

@Fire Attunement.9835 said:You can! It has four dye channels.

ETA: The backpack and the glider each have four dye channels, to clarify.

What about celestial infusion, from which this texture was taken? Will it get upgraded quality?

Yeah on this I agree, they can't simply redo all of them, if they need to generate incomes it's better to only create new ones and keeping releasing other gemstore cosmetics.If deleted, it would be erased from wardrobe like the item never existed.

I was going only for gemstores ones and as you said, it's 52.I think with more employees they could handle it, but taking in account it takes them an eternity to release new mount skins / licences, or weapon/backpacks.... it's very hard to hope they can do it. And of course, currently, how they are structured, it will take surely 1+ year for redoing them.

For the accounts it would have not been an issue if it was only few skins. They are able to send things to tons of players, exemple are gauntlets community rewards or extra life rewards. But yes they need here to check 52 skins per account.

Now about extra income, above a player said it is okay to charge 100 gems more to have that dyable version since the player have the normal one.So here the maths:-You have it, want dyable = 100 gems-You have none = 600 gems.Multiply by numbers of interested.

The REAL question is, what is the percent of the playerbase wanting them dyable, so does it worths it?

My idea can be realised, but they don't have enough personnel to do it, through, maybe it could have been done at launch or before the layoffs?The period of production was the 2 first year, it was there that those dyable stuffs, outfits, build templates etc should have been released. (And sab finished)

The second thought is, is it hard to made them, those 52 skins, can't they copy-paste /code to reuse the model? And then add the dyes?

~Disclaimer: I don't know how their engine works, and sadly don't have stats and metrics to tell it would be beneficial or not.

But I did some java, and know that I can use texture and models and add parameters or coloration to models "variables". But can't enlighten anyone here. I know that the item is grey and then you apply a parameter (dye) to taint that grey.

Surely their dyable backpack is coded as a seventh armor piece! Maybe not! Only devs can say how that new object class works, the variables etc...

To avoid use of extra slots of wardrobe, the old ones are converted to new ones. Old skins are returned as consummables inmail/ a new tab.

Hello, will this set become available to buy with statuettes?

Considering they just made the starlight outfit become buyable with statuettes, you can be pretty certain that the back will be available as well by next black lion chest update.

this glider is ridiculous, it's even better than the Ascension legendary which I grinded for many seasons, not only it uses the same model, but it looks 100 times better than Legendary and also it's dyeable, if Ad Infinitum and the Ascension aren't getting updates, then it's not even worth it to craft items and have fun with it, just grind gold for Gemstore...Ridiculous

I think it's reasonable to suggest that it should be worthwhile for the three legendary backpieces/gliders to be made dyeable like this.

(and then everyone makes a gold Ad Infinitum xD)