selecting sand savant in wvw is now a self nerf with little benefit. what should be done with it?

yay 100% increased cd for some radius, something it should have baseline. also a funny thing to note is that you can still have the increased 10 targets in pvp… where its useful...

BIG FAT EDITwhat do you guys think should be done with this trait?

Yep, completely useless in WvW now. Your point being...?

@Ashantara.8731 said:Yep, completely useless in WvW now. Your point being...?

it should be changed to something else.

@Stand The Wall.6987 said:

@Ashantara.8731 said:Yep, completely useless in WvW now. Your point being...?

It always was a awfully designed class... the results are obvious.

Sand Savant was an inherently toxic trait ever since its conception that should have never even made it into beta weekend. Instead of nipping the bud early on, they decided to butcher the entire e-spec along the way. Not that I miss this e-spec having more of a presence, but my heart goes out to all you Necro players that have this sad husk of an e-spec.

Sand savant with 10 allies should be fine in wvw, just remove the f1 procs on all f skills and desert shroud so all damage is gone from it. When selectin sand savant change damaging conditions to boons for allies and it will be good in pve and pvp/wvw

Sand Savant should have come with improved support for scourge (improved Sand Cascade barriers or otherwise), so that it contends with the offensive trait (Demonic Lore). It's a classic case of overnerf.

Sand Savant should have been a PvE end-game support trait but it was OP in WvW, which is a perpetual Arenanet problem, so they busted it for all game modes. This is the normal approach.

@Anchoku.8142 said:Sand Savant should have been a PvE end-game support trait but it was OP in WvW, which is a perpetual Arenanet problem, so they busted it for all game modes. This is the normal approach.

Also a perpetual ANet problem: they nerfed everything around the clear problem first, then when they finally nerf the problem (in a bad way) they don't revert anything else they did.

A double post, I'm aware, but I had a thought regarding replacing Sand Savant. What about replacing it with the following:

Desiccating PreservationWhenever a Barrier your Scourge traits or skills applies is depleted through damage, gain 1% life force.

This would likely become the go-to support GM, as when your applied barriers are used to their fullest extent, you are rewarded, helping you to continue to support your allies. Support Scourge in raids could put a barrier up on the squad before a hit and get 10% life force back, which should be more than enough to use F3. It would not be very effective in solo scenarios, giving plenty of use for the other two Grandmasters. It also rewards proper barrier timing, rather than loading everything up to max before a push in WvW.

Downside? I don't know if the game actually tracks who applied a barrier after initial application.