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Most underperforming specs in each mode?

Zexanima.7851Zexanima.7851 Member ✭✭✭✭

Title says it all. Just want to see what other people think. I'm talking spec (core, HoT, PoF) here specifically, not any one whole profession.

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  • bigo.9037bigo.9037 Member ✭✭✭

    Wvw only being a single gamemode isn't quite fair as there are many ways to play it. Or at the very least 2. Comp groups or Roaming / smallscale / solo.

  • Serenity.6304Serenity.6304 Member ✭✭✭

    PvP: Scourge, Chronomancer, Core Engi

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  • Nimon.7840Nimon.7840 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Pve: necro in general, engi in general (could also say other classes are clearly overperforming)

    Wvw: hard to say here. As there's more than one valid path to play wvw.
    In general: everything is usable somewhere either in roaming or zergs.

  • Infusion.7149Infusion.7149 Member ✭✭✭✭

    For WvW there's quite a few: core engineer (scrapper is better for squads, holo is better for roaming), chrono post-nerf (better off with core for power mesmer , the post-nerf chrono shatter mechanic is unreliable and other wells other than gravity well don't see much use), core ranger (no "sic em" merge bonuses or merged beastmastery damage boosts) / druid (need to build astral force, speccing druid means you can't go soulbeast)

    PvE: scourge probably, core necro, core ranger

    PvP: post-nerf scourge probably since the shade effect doesn't happen around you, post-nerf chrono because wells are basically unusable in PvP and the shatter mechanic is extremely unreliable , core engineer (because rifle isn't strong on its own, pistol has slow condi, and bomb/grenade are slow),

    • Maybe: druid (haven't seen this used to great effect other than for condi druid which has slow condis) , any damage oriented tempest because you will be CCed or sniped to death
  • ZeftheWicked.3076ZeftheWicked.3076 Member ✭✭✭✭

    PvE: core necro

  • Jaruselka.5943Jaruselka.5943 Member ✭✭✭

    All game modes: core engie

  • Lily.1935Lily.1935 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Core necromancer is really having a problem. And a lot of that stems from its core design. Which seems to be basically be Blissy in a physical fighting type meta. (Pokemon reference.) The core design of necromancer needs to be updated. And I have some ideas that could improve its position, although it would undo a few of the death magic changes in the process as this would be a complete overhaul of the necromancer's design. This wouldn't negatively impact the reaper but would impact the scourge.

  • otto.5684otto.5684 Member ✭✭✭✭

    PvE? Probably necro and scrapper. Though both are fairly strong in open world. Outside of guardian and warrior, all core classes.

    SPvP? All builds except the 10-12 meta ones.

    I am not a WvW player.

  • Samug.6512Samug.6512 Member ✭✭✭

    Core engi, any mode.


  • Aeolus.3615Aeolus.3615 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited January 14, 2020

    Issue with core engie is that buffing it will also buff holo and scrapper XD

    Reason i always felt Engie should be a elite as well, i ment every core having its elite as well, that would make easier to balance engie or any other core w/o buffing the other elite specs.

    That would make balance and class design much easier.

  • necro in every mode :'^( :'^( :'^(

    Te lazla otstara.

  • Josiah.2967Josiah.2967 Member ✭✭✭

    Necro...every role. No end game close to top tier Fractal, Raid, or PVP build. I think core damage increase and rework is needed.

  • KrHome.1920KrHome.1920 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited January 16, 2020

    In pve it's core necro because it is impossible to build a dps or support build based on that spec. The weapons deal laughable damage and shroud has no identity (is it ranged or melee?, is it power or condi?, it is definitely not support and it is too weak for hybrid damage [...] it's bad at everything).

    In pvp and wvw everything can work more or less, because it's not all about maximizing damage or support like in pve.

  • Zhaid Zhem.6508Zhaid Zhem.6508 Member ✭✭✭✭

    The death shroud of necro need a buff.
    Projectiles are too slow. Skill #4 has too long cast for poor effect. Weak dmg.
    When you see a Reaper entering shroud you start to run. When you see necro entering shroud, you don't care he's now a free kill.

  • Raid: herald , condi scourge(thats the ones i have seen or tried directly) .
    Id also say renegade because its a espec that suposedly gives you condi y ferocity(power) dmg but in the end its power dmg is far from close to the acceptable in raid(while the condi y alac is meta so i guess it could be caled balanced but i think theyre not using all the rene potencial)
    Also scourge epi is needed in some raids but even so seeing a necro being one of the less powerful condi classes is a bit sad
    I talk about raid not pvp nor wvw as i dont know how the balance is there.

  • PvE: Engineer (All Specs) | Scourge | Core Necro | Herald
    PvP: Scourge | Core Engineer | Chrono | Renegade | DH
    WvW: Core engineer, Core Necro, Berserker | Renegade | Core Guardian

  • Did not create a new theme, hint spec daredevil very popular in pvp (raids, fractals) and pvp? and wanted to know which spices are not very popular at pve\pvp?

  • Dirame.8521Dirame.8521 Member ✭✭✭

    Necro is the only class that can turn fear into a damaging condition so I would think it should be used in any raid or pve setting as to have a another angle for damage that no one else has.
    Also Scourge has great defence with that new shield thing they use and can spread to team mates which I would think makes them quite useful in pve.

    Also in PvP, Necros are the most deadly things to deal with. A single well played Core Necro can wipe whole team. Scourge too. I could go and have gone all the way to Legend on Core Necro solo q as well when Terrormancer Necro wasn't buffed. Now that it is buffed it's just ridiculous that no one plays it and then complain that Necro is weak. Makes me cry.

  • Agrippa Oculus.3726Agrippa Oculus.3726 Member ✭✭✭
    edited January 20, 2020
    • PvE Endgame (T4 fractals, Raids): Core Necro
    • PvE Open World: Core Engi
    • SPvP: Scourge
    • WvW Roaming / Small scale: Core Necro / Core Engi
    • WvW Zerg: Core Engi / Core Mesmer / Core Necro
  • Xenash.1245Xenash.1245 Member ✭✭✭

    Kinda surprised to see so many people saying necro is bad in general.

  • @Xenash.1245 said:
    Kinda surprised to see so many people saying necro is bad in general.

    Core-Necro not bad in PvP, in my opinion.
    And Reaper-Necro - pretty much strong in PvP

  • MyPuppy.8970MyPuppy.8970 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Core engie and core ele.