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Hello everyone,

a few years ago I was very lucky to invest 250-500 gold and make a profit of 11-13k gold in the trading post.
It was a one-time deal based on a tip from a trusted guild member.

That was three years ago. Since then I haven't invested in anything and only spend money.
Do you have a long-term investment strategy so that I can at least cover my expenditures?
For me it should be safe and take little time. I only play a few hours a month.
Even a net growth of just 1-2% per month would be sufficient for my investment.

best regards
Thakis

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  • Sobx.1758Sobx.1758 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Thakis.6931 said:
    Hello everyone,

    a few years ago I was very lucky to invest 250-500 gold and make a profit of 11-13k gold in the trading post.
    It was a one-time deal

    So since it doesn't matter anymore -out of curiosity, what deal was that?

  • Thakis.6931Thakis.6931 Member ✭✭
    edited January 12, 2020

    @Sobx.1758
    crafting material :)

  • Sobx.1758Sobx.1758 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Thakis.6931 said:
    @Sobx.1758
    crafting material :)

    That says nothing, which one? :D

  • Thakis.6931Thakis.6931 Member ✭✭
    edited January 12, 2020

    @CaelestiaEmpyrea.2617
    Unfortunately, most people misunderstand me. Also in the german GW2 forum.
    I'm not interested in getting as much gold as possible.
    I just want a safe investment. A few percent of profit is already sufficient for me.

    The money is spent faster than it's earned.
    If I decide to level the crafting disciplines from 400 to 500 and then forge one or the ascended gears, current sigils and runes I'll need >1000 Gold.
    So why not invest the money if I currently do nothing with it? It is the same in real life.
    Therefore it's not about earning money but to compensate my future expenditure.

    Edit:
    @Sobx.1758
    I don't know exactly. I guess I bought T6 leather back in 2015. Waited one or two years and sold it.
    But I'm not sure. It''s been a few years.

  • voltaicbore.8012voltaicbore.8012 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Yeah, even if I did have any ideas, the last person I'd ever tell is someone who can totally buy me out and overwhelm me in market power. Go figure that mess out on your own.

  • Danikat.8537Danikat.8537 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited January 12, 2020

    As far as I know the only thing you could buy which could just sit and increase in value is gems. There is a tax on gem/gold conversions which mean you can lose money if you convert then convert back when the prices are too similar, but if you time it right you can make a decent profit that way.

    There might well be items which are guarenteed to go up in value, but if anyone knows about them they're unlikely to say on a public forum. We're all on a pretty even playing field here (unlike real life where there could be a local startup not many people know about, regional variations in supply and demand and so on), so if there's a simple way to make gold and everyone knows about it chances are everyone will do it and then, at least when it comes to the trading post, that shifts the dynamics - supply increases or people start sourcing their own and the super-valuable commodity isn't so valuable any more.

    You could buy something which is currently very cheap and hope Anet makes changes which make it more valuable in the future, but there's no guarentee that will work. (For example if you had bought stacks of thick leather before 2015 and sold it in 2016 you could have made a fortune. If you'd done the same with mithril you'd be disappointed.)

    You got lucky last time - a friend spotted an oppertunity and was nice enough to share it with you, and it actually paid out. It's unlikely a stranger would be as willing to share their tricks for making gold, especially that kind of amount, so the best approach is probably to do your own research.

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    And you run till night is black, And keep on going in your dreams
    And you know all the long while, It's the journey that you seek
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  • Black lion skins. When first released they sell for 50g to 80g each. Wait 6 months to a year, and they've doubled in price.

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  • Danikat.8537Danikat.8537 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Blood Red Arachnid.2493 said:
    Black lion skins. When first released they sell for 50g to 80g each. Wait 6 months to a year, and they've doubled in price.

    It doesn't always work though. I got one of the Frostforged weapons last Wintersday, kept it until June to sell at a higher price only to find the price hadn't really changed. I listed it anyway at the current lowest sell price, relisted it twice at lower prices and it still didn't sell until this Wintersday when they were available again. I see the same looking at GW2TP.com graphs of sale prices for recent sets like Branded and Endless Ocean weapons. Some weapons sell for more at certain times but it's not the kind of safe investment the OP asked for, you'd need to keep monitoring prices and availability to find the best time to sell and it will never be as simple as investing a certain amount and seeing a fixed return based on how long you wait to cash out.

    Danielle Aurorel, Desolation EU. Mini Collector

    "You can run like a river, Till you end up in the sea
    And you run till night is black, And keep on going in your dreams
    And you know all the long while, It's the journey that you seek
    It's the miles of moving forward, With the wind beneath your wings"

  • Thakis.6931Thakis.6931 Member ✭✭
    edited January 12, 2020

    @voltaicbore.8012
    So why are you commenting in this thread if you don't want to help me?
    @Danikat.8537
    I totally agree with your first answer but you and the other readers here forget one important point.
    I don't want to know the next best selling item. Items that could make a net profit of over 50, 100, or even 1000 %.
    I know nobody will share this kind of information in forums like this and that's totally ok.

    I'm interested in items with a small but steady growth (if they exist). Items with just 1-5 % net profit. Too small to be interesting for people like @voltaicbore.8012 .
    Or would you invest 5 hours just to get 1 % profit of your current wealth? I guess not. For me it would be already 100 g.
    That's the point and this is the reason why I opened this thread. Not to ask for the next big thing but for the small and consistent one.

  • Cyninja.2954Cyninja.2954 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited January 12, 2020

    @Sobx.1758 said:

    @Thakis.6931 said:
    @Sobx.1758
    crafting material :)

    That says nothing, which one? :D

    Very likely Mystic Coins. Those would achieve the type of growth described, matches the time period mentioned and the use.

  • Nothing is safe for such an investment. Mystic Coins would probably be the closest, as Cyninja notes. However, even that is a bit unsure - given that Icebrood Saga (LS5) isn't adding any new legendaries as far as we know, they could possibly start slowly decreasing in value; but they might just stay stable.

    Other than that - gems is really the only thing that seems to never have a serious, long-term drop.

  • TheQuickFox.3826TheQuickFox.3826 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Tanner Blackfeather.6509 said:
    [...]

    Other than that - gems is really the only thing that seems to never have a serious, long-term drop.

    Please note that both gold-to-gems as well as gems-to-gold transfers are highly taxed. So, it will be hard to get any profit out of trading these back and forth over time.

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  • @TheQuickFox.3826 said:

    @Tanner Blackfeather.6509 said:
    [...]

    Other than that - gems is really the only thing that seems to never have a serious, long-term drop.

    Please note that both gold-to-gems as well as gems-to-gold transfers are highly taxed. So, it will be hard to get any profit out of trading these back and forth over time.

    Absolutely, but OP isn't asking about things to flip repeatedly. The question is a single thing that will increase in value long term. Over the span of years, the price of gems may increase enough to fit.

    The average gems-to-gold price lately is approaching the average gold-to-gems price of early 2017. If bought at a temporary dip in price and sold at a temporary spike, you could absolutely have made a pretty good profit - nothing near what active trading could generate, but the amount of work would have been almost infinitely smaller too.

  • lare.5129lare.5129 Member ✭✭✭✭

    so we keep mind that you not need any collection, legendary, or etc and want only invest, so the way is
    1)gems
    2)gems
    3)gems

    want solid balance ? - play chess.

  • Sobx.1758Sobx.1758 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Cyninja.2954 said:

    @Sobx.1758 said:

    @Thakis.6931 said:
    @Sobx.1758
    crafting material :)

    That says nothing, which one? :D

    Very likely Mystic Coins. Those would achieve the type of growth described, matches the time period mentioned and the use.

    Doubt he'd mistake leather with the mcoins :D
    I'm still pretty curious who and how could have "a tip" to easly turn 200-500 into 12k gold. :p

  • Ronan.9518Ronan.9518 Member ✭✭✭

    Back when the ascended armor got introduced for example the Silk Scraps went from 3c buying/9c selling to 2s 15c buying/2s 30c selling within a month so it's value went up by ~ * 70 those who saw that coming/where fast enough buying while it was still cheap could make a lot of gold, sadly i was not one of those.

  • There are several websites that cater to this. Use your favorite search engine. Some are better than others.

    Honestly, the best profits that a guarantee involve a large upfront cost (either a precursor or 250 Mystic Coins), or involve a large amount of clicking in the Mystic Forge (lodestones).

    Lodestones in particular have a high velocity on the market, people need them for Legs and other skins, so even if you get outbid, they'll eventually sell. Usually within a day.

  • Thakis.6931Thakis.6931 Member ✭✭
    edited January 14, 2020

    @Cyninja.2954
    I've already given the answer but some post were deleted by the admins.
    I investet in t6 leather few years ago.

    @Tanner Blackfeather.6509 and @lare.5129
    for sure, most people recommend the investment in gems but even if you wait three years you don't get a profit if you change gems back to gold. (comparrision between jan 17 and jan 20)
    @lare.5129
    I hope you read my other posts. I already mentioned that there is a lot in this game for me to achieve. I don't even have the achievement "The Emperor's New Wardrobe". (I hope it's the right name in english)
    So why shouldn't I invest my money and buy things with my profit?
    The alternative would be to spend all my money instead of investing.
    After three months I would be broke if I have no income.

    @Sobx.1758
    We had a TP-Nerd in our guild for a few years. He had also a high rank in our hierarchy and enjoyed high trust. I guess his net worth is over 100k gold. We also had someone in the guild who stoped playing gw2 and gave away his Legys. Our guild was amazing :)
    I bought leather for - i guess - 40c and sold it for 20-30s.
    As I sad, it was just luck...a very profitable one. If I had invested in Mithril instead, I would be poor now.

    @Lan Deathrider.5910
    thank you for the feedback :)
    a large upfront cost wouldn't be a showstopper for me.

  • @Thakis.6931 said:
    @Cyninja.2954
    I've already given the answer but some post were deleted by the admins.
    I investet in t6 leather few years ago.

    @Tanner Blackfeather.6509 and @lare.5129
    for sure, most people recommend the investment in gems but even if you wait three years you don't get a profit if you change gems back to gold. (comparrision between jan 17 and jan 20)
    @lare.5129
    I hope you read my other posts. I already mentioned that there is a lot in this game for me to achieve. I don't even have the achievement "The Emperor's New Wardrobe". (I hope it's the right name in english)
    So why shouldn't I invest my money and buy things with my profit?
    The alternative would be to spend all my money instead of investing.
    After three months I would be broke if I have no income.

    @Sobx.1758
    We had a TP-Nerd in our guild for a few years. He had also a high rank in our hierarchy and enjoyed high trust. I guess his net worth is over 100k gold. We also had someone in the guild who stoped playing gw2 and gave away his Legys. Our guild was amazing :)
    I bought leather for - i guess - 40c and sold it for 20-30s.
    As I sad, it was just luck...a very profitable one. If I had invested in Mithril instead, I would be poor now.

    @Lan Deathrider.5910
    thank you for the feedback :)
    a large upfront cost wouldn't be a showstopper for me.

    Then look into the weapons that can be made with Mystic Coins. Or infusions. The infusions above +15 agony resistance have a large cost to craft, but also sell for a great amount.

  • Tanner Blackfeather.6509Tanner Blackfeather.6509 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited January 14, 2020

    There really isn't any guaranteed investment scheme in the GW2 economy. Every way of earning gold (barring strokes of luck like your initial investment*) takes active engagement - either by farming or actively keeping track of the TP.

    *Yes, that was luck, mostly on behalf of your guildmate. There are quite a few materials hovering at vendor value like t5 leather used to that have _not_ seen adjustments. Unless said guildmate had insider information, of course.

  • Sobx.1758Sobx.1758 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Lan Deathrider.5910 said:

    @Thakis.6931 said:
    @Cyninja.2954
    I've already given the answer but some post were deleted by the admins.
    I investet in t6 leather few years ago.

    @Tanner Blackfeather.6509 and @lare.5129
    for sure, most people recommend the investment in gems but even if you wait three years you don't get a profit if you change gems back to gold. (comparrision between jan 17 and jan 20)
    @lare.5129
    I hope you read my other posts. I already mentioned that there is a lot in this game for me to achieve. I don't even have the achievement "The Emperor's New Wardrobe". (I hope it's the right name in english)
    So why shouldn't I invest my money and buy things with my profit?
    The alternative would be to spend all my money instead of investing.
    After three months I would be broke if I have no income.

    @Sobx.1758
    We had a TP-Nerd in our guild for a few years. He had also a high rank in our hierarchy and enjoyed high trust. I guess his net worth is over 100k gold. We also had someone in the guild who stoped playing gw2 and gave away his Legys. Our guild was amazing :)
    I bought leather for - i guess - 40c and sold it for 20-30s.
    As I sad, it was just luck...a very profitable one. If I had invested in Mithril instead, I would be poor now.

    @Lan Deathrider.5910
    thank you for the feedback :)
    a large upfront cost wouldn't be a showstopper for me.

    Then look into the weapons that can be made with Mystic Coins. Or infusions. The infusions above +15 agony resistance have a large cost to craft, but also sell for a great amount.

    They seem to rarelly sell tbh, high risk, but might profit, true :p

  • @Sobx.1758 said:

    @Lan Deathrider.5910 said:

    @Thakis.6931 said:
    @Cyninja.2954
    I've already given the answer but some post were deleted by the admins.
    I investet in t6 leather few years ago.

    @Tanner Blackfeather.6509 and @lare.5129
    for sure, most people recommend the investment in gems but even if you wait three years you don't get a profit if you change gems back to gold. (comparrision between jan 17 and jan 20)
    @lare.5129
    I hope you read my other posts. I already mentioned that there is a lot in this game for me to achieve. I don't even have the achievement "The Emperor's New Wardrobe". (I hope it's the right name in english)
    So why shouldn't I invest my money and buy things with my profit?
    The alternative would be to spend all my money instead of investing.
    After three months I would be broke if I have no income.

    @Sobx.1758
    We had a TP-Nerd in our guild for a few years. He had also a high rank in our hierarchy and enjoyed high trust. I guess his net worth is over 100k gold. We also had someone in the guild who stoped playing gw2 and gave away his Legys. Our guild was amazing :)
    I bought leather for - i guess - 40c and sold it for 20-30s.
    As I sad, it was just luck...a very profitable one. If I had invested in Mithril instead, I would be poor now.

    @Lan Deathrider.5910
    thank you for the feedback :)
    a large upfront cost wouldn't be a showstopper for me.

    Then look into the weapons that can be made with Mystic Coins. Or infusions. The infusions above +15 agony resistance have a large cost to craft, but also sell for a great amount.

    They seem to rarelly sell tbh, high risk, but might profit, true :p

    Depends on how many coins/infusions he has on hand and if he sells low :tongue:

    The things that sell for large amounts like that tend to sell slowly unless you decide to cut your profits lower and sell at a hot price, whereas things like T6 mats and lodestones sell quickly, but require a large amount of clicking in the forge to make large profits

  • lare.5129lare.5129 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Mystic Coins? Bad idea .. people get that from daili login, but most of then don't have plan to do leg.. So when "raid people" wwill change currency from ms for something usefull it will be fall price day for mc..

    want solid balance ? - play chess.

  • wow.. is this a game or a financial institution?

  • Linken.6345Linken.6345 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Use your gold need more gold buy gems for cash and convert when new stuff hits the gemstore and prices surge.

  • Cuks.8241Cuks.8241 Member ✭✭✭

    You know how it is with investments; when everyone knows about it, it is to late (or sell if you did it right). And when everyone starts to complain how much they lost, it is time to buy again. So any public forum is not a place to ask these questions.
    You either figure it out or get an exclusive tip.

  • Bassdeff.1895Bassdeff.1895 Member ✭✭✭

    It's impossible to know. I would buy things like mystic coins, ectos, precursors, and legendaries because those items tend to hold their value but then again Anet might put out a patch that completely changes the economy and you end up losing money. OR you could get lucky like some people and buy stacks of seaweed when they were 2c a piece and have Anet release a patch that drives to price up to 15 silver.

  • Thakis.6931Thakis.6931 Member ✭✭
    edited January 17, 2020

    @Cuks.8241
    I disagree. I specifically ask for goods with a possible profit of 1-5%.
    Too low to be interesting for 99.999% of all users.
    For me, that would be already a three-digit profit.

    @Linken.6345
    I don't want to invest my real mony to increase my wealth ingame.
    Or do I misunderstand you?

    @Valandil Dragonhart.2371
    How does your comment help?
    This is a "Players help Players" thread.

    @Bassdeff.1895
    I know how it works.
    But you miss my point.
    I quote my self again (or see above in another comment from me):

    "I totally agree with your first answer but you and the other readers here forget one important point.
    I don't want to know the next best selling item. Items that could make a net profit of over 50, 100, or even 1000 %.
    I know nobody will share this kind of information in forums like this and that's totally ok.
    I'm interested in items with a small but steady growth (if they exist). Items with just 1-5 % net profit. Too small to be interesting for people like"

  • Bassdeff.1895Bassdeff.1895 Member ✭✭✭

    @Thakis.6931 said:
    @Cuks.8241
    I disagree. I specifically ask for goods with a possible profit of 1-5%.
    Too low to be interesting for 99.999% of all users.
    For me, that would be already a three-digit profit.

    @Linken.6345
    I don't want to invest my real mony to increase my wealth ingame.
    Or do I misunderstand you?

    @Valandil Dragonhart.2371
    How does your comment help?
    This is a "Players help Players" thread.

    @Bassdeff.1895
    I know how it works.
    But you miss my point.
    I quote my self again (or see above in another comment from me):

    "I totally agree with your first answer but you and the other readers here forget one important point.
    I don't want to know the next best selling item. Items that could make a net profit of over 50, 100, or even 1000 %.
    I know nobody will share this kind of information in forums like this and that's totally ok.
    I'm interested in items with a small but steady growth (if they exist). Items with just 1-5 % net profit. Too small to be interesting for people like"

    I get your point. I'm telling you that there is no guaranteed long term investment cause Anet can make changes that drastically affect the economy at anytime.

  • Cuks.8241Cuks.8241 Member ✭✭✭

    You could buy festival stuff like Wintersday Gift. Their prices rise and fall predictably over the year depending on when the festival occurred. We're just past Winter's day and Halloween and the prices are low.