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  • Trevor Boyer.6524Trevor Boyer.6524 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited January 23, 2020

    You can thank solo/duo queue for that.

    Wouldn't happen if you play with a party of people you trusted.

  • Xentera.4560Xentera.4560 Member ✭✭✭

    @Trevor Boyer.6524 said:
    What you see in the screen shot is not win trading. It's general bribery.

    Honestly Arenanet should make it so players cannot send or receive mail during matches, or at least couldn't send gold or items during the match.

    Now there's something that makes sense, that should have happened a very long time ago.

    ^This x 100

    What about if someone is afk long enough to get a warning for an impeding disconnect, then no rank points will be lost/won.

  • gdubze.6015gdubze.6015 Member ✭✭✭
    edited January 23, 2020

    Either way bribery or wintrading, people say its not happening even in lower brackets but the evidence speaks for itself. This is what artificially keeps players in the wrong league brackets

  • Zexanima.7851Zexanima.7851 Member ✭✭✭✭

    This is an obvious example, there are sneaker ones who make it harder to catch them too. I had a game the other day where the player would just walk to whatever point haphazardly, cast 1-2 skills and auto attack, then die. It might 'seem' like they are trying to play but from the way they are doing it you could tell they were throwing. Even bad/new player will spam skills and chase kills. This guy just stood in one place on point and auto attack 90% of the time.

    Depression and anxiety are the worst...

  • gdubze.6015gdubze.6015 Member ✭✭✭

    @Xentera.4560 said:

    What about if someone is afk long enough to get a warning for an impeding disconnect, then no rank points will be lost/won.

    This would be abused by trolls

  • Zexanima.7851Zexanima.7851 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @gdubze.6015 said:
    Either way bribery or wintrading, people say its not happening even in lower brackets but the evidence speaks for itself. This is what artificially keeps players in the wrong league brackets

    Having solo and 5 man split or having your rank gain completely based off your personal performance would fix this I'm fairly sure.

    Depression and anxiety are the worst...

  • Eddbopkins.2630Eddbopkins.2630 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited January 23, 2020

    The afk guy could and should of left the match. It achieves the same goal but without making 4 other people lose rank.
    The only reason to stay in the match is because you want to screw over someone on your team. Some one on the enemy team did not want someone on the afkers team to gain ranking and or straight up wanted someone to lose ranking.
    That's what I get from the chat log.
    2 people in that sitchuation need lifetime bans.

  • If there were 5 man queues I couldn't play because I no longer have anyone to play with and can't find a good fit guild because of my erratic play times.

    I do hate it when someone is obviously throwing a game or there is a bot but punishing solo players seems mean too. I don't think afkers should be allowed to sit at spawn. Rather someone not moving be kicked from instance and rewards be given based on outmanned scale. Can't really tell most times if people are playing bad on purpose.

    Some get caught up in the melee and forget to grab points, some seem lagged, some seem over powered for the rank they are in (like one warrior who literally won the match for the team. Rest of them were easily dispatched when he wasn't around, so the just kept near him and avoided fights). I liked the match where we were slaughtering the other team, we finally just decided to do some dueling until the end. At least people weren't getting overly frustrated. Still think we should be allowed to forfeit so we could get in queue for maybe abetter match faster.

  • Tharan.9085Tharan.9085 Member ✭✭✭

    @Eddbopkins.2630 said:
    The afk guy could and should of left the match. It achieves the same goal but with making 4 other people lose rank.
    The only reason to stay in the match is because you want to screw over someone on your team. Some one on the enemy team did not want someone on the afkers team to gain ranking and or straight up wanted someone to lose ranking.
    That's what I get from the chat log.
    2 people in that sitchuation need lifetime bans.

    Wrong, its not to screw over others but to not screw over yourself via match leaving penality.

  • Leonidrex.5649Leonidrex.5649 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Eddbopkins.2630 said:
    The afk guy could and should of left the match. It achieves the same goal but with making 4 other people lose rank.
    The only reason to stay in the match is because you want to screw over someone on your team. Some one on the enemy team did not want someone on the afkers team to gain ranking and or straight up wanted someone to lose ranking.
    That's what I get from the chat log.
    2 people in that sitchuation need lifetime bans.

    he would get dishonor and he wouldnt get ranked reward.

  • Ziggityzog.7389Ziggityzog.7389 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Noooooo there is no wintrading here according to some basement troll streamers and "top" ( lol hahaha) players.

    How dare you.

  • Eddbopkins.2630Eddbopkins.2630 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited January 23, 2020

    @Tharan.9085 said:

    @Eddbopkins.2630 said:
    The afk guy could and should of left the match. It achieves the same goal but with making 4 other people lose rank.
    The only reason to stay in the match is because you want to screw over someone on your team. Some one on the enemy team did not want someone on the afkers team to gain ranking and or straight up wanted someone to lose ranking.
    That's what I get from the chat log.
    2 people in that sitchuation need lifetime bans.

    Wrong, its not to screw over others but to not screw over yourself via match leaving penality.

    If that's his 1st time doing it for the day then it's only a 3 minute wait nothing to complain about. But for the 4 other people who have to suffer the In justices of his bad moralitity for taking bribes it's ok for them to feel cheated right? If u are a serial afker well then that's grounds for perma ban. Doesn't matter about penalties. He deserves a perma ban.

    +He already screwed over him self by afking and taking a loss but he doesn't care cuz he got gold from the enemy team. That's ok to you?

  • Dantheman.3589Dantheman.3589 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Report then block the player and try not to que into them, unless you want to see them in match more to send reports more often Lol

  • Zexanima.7851Zexanima.7851 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Dantheman.3589 said:
    Report then block the player and try not to que into them, unless you want to see them in match more to send reports more often Lol

    That's a bandaid solution really. It's not just a handful of people doing it. At least, not on the same accounts.

    Depression and anxiety are the worst...

  • Azure The Heartless.3261Azure The Heartless.3261 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited January 23, 2020

    @gdubze.6015 said:
    Either way bribery or wintrading, people say its not happening even in lower brackets but the evidence speaks for itself. This is what artificially keeps players in the wrong league brackets

    This right here is important.

    I wouldn't expect people benefiting from it at least in some regard to claim anything other than it doesn't exist, but this is what happens when you have a team that you have no rapport with and have enough power to cause a loss by inaction and get away scot free.
    Whether he was joking or not (and he obviously wasnt because afk is observable), people will pay or cheat their way up the ranking board if the system lets them. And not only that, if you are not insulated by a team of people you trust you also become susceptible to people using that same influence to tank your teams. to spite you.

    Breaking up team games was a mistake. We underestimated how low people would be willing to go for adulation.

    [Charr Noises]
    [I play every class!]
    [I don't share builds!]
    [Fight me in the arena anytime!]

  • gdubze.6015gdubze.6015 Member ✭✭✭

    @Dantheman.3589 said:
    Report then block the player and try not to que into them, unless you want to see them in match more to send reports more often Lol

    Almost impossible to do as the player was offline.

  • Dantheman.3589Dantheman.3589 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @gdubze.6015 said:

    @Dantheman.3589 said:
    Report then block the player and try not to que into them, unless you want to see them in match more to send reports more often Lol

    Almost impossible to do as the player was offline.

    Maybe he blocked you an will q dodge you. I guess you lucky win traders are fickle and clever creatures

  • Crab Fear.1624Crab Fear.1624 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @XatraZaytrax.2601 said:
    If there were 5 man queues I couldn't play because I no longer have anyone to play with and can't find a good fit guild because of my erratic play times.

    I do hate it when someone is obviously throwing a game or there is a bot but punishing solo players seems mean too. I don't think afkers should be allowed to sit at spawn. Rather someone not moving be kicked from instance and rewards be given based on outmanned scale. Can't really tell most times if people are playing bad on purpose.

    Some get caught up in the melee and forget to grab points, some seem lagged, some seem over powered for the rank they are in (like one warrior who literally won the match for the team. Rest of them were easily dispatched when he wasn't around, so the just kept near him and avoided fights). I liked the match where we were slaughtering the other team, we finally just decided to do some dueling until the end. At least people weren't getting overly frustrated. Still think we should be allowed to forfeit so we could get in queue for maybe abetter match faster.

    If there were 5 man q, there would be more pvp guilds.

    My guild is a pvp guild and we got guys from all over playing at all times.

    You could definitely always find a team.

    People always found a team when they wanted to play HA in gw1.

    Finding a team is very present throughout the game and players with erratic times manage to do it.

    Soon™ ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) nom nom nom🥔
    Fun Daredevil

  • Zynk.9015Zynk.9015 Member ✭✭
    edited January 24, 2020

    So there's two ways of reading this thread.

    1. Ranked premades get put in the game and the win-traders get stomped out of the leader boards by the players who belong at the top.
      or
    2. Ranked premades get put in the game and the wintraders/bribers will toooootally stop manipulating the leaderboards to keep skilled players from reaching the upper ranks. Which is extortion, in case anyone was wondering.

    If Anet were using their big thonker, they'd just ban (and fire, wink wink, hint hint) everyone involved, or in bed, with these trolls.

    Edit: And not a week long temporary ban. Delet their account and their leader board ranks too pls n ty.

    Throw some pepegas in the chat boiz, gw2 is dead.

  • I want to chip in here: I was the guy saying: Most welcome!

    I never did pay anyone nor did I ever participated in win trading or any other sneaky way to climb a ladder in the almighty and prestigious GW2 PvP. I jumped onto the bandwagon and trolled with MOST WELCOME for kitten and giggles. I didn't expect in my wildest dreams such vivid silver platter in the forum.

    I appreciate the post though but somehow a waste of time. Sorry mate.

  • gdubze.6015gdubze.6015 Member ✭✭✭
    edited January 24, 2020

    @phalaris.5134 said:
    I want to chip in here: I was the guy saying: Most welcome!

    I never did pay anyone nor did I ever participated in win trading or any other sneaky way to climb a ladder in the almighty and prestigious GW2 PvP. I jumped onto the bandwagon and trolled with MOST WELCOME for kitten and giggles. I didn't expect in my wildest dreams such vivid silver platter in the forum.

    I appreciate the post though but somehow a waste of time. Sorry mate.

    This post was to highlight the actual wintrader that got paid by someone, weather or not it was you was irrelivant. If you enjoy trolling people that is your choice I never made any assumptions or accusations.

  • Leonidrex.5649Leonidrex.5649 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited January 24, 2020

    @Crab Fear.1624 said:

    @XatraZaytrax.2601 said:
    If there were 5 man queues I couldn't play because I no longer have anyone to play with and can't find a good fit guild because of my erratic play times.

    I do hate it when someone is obviously throwing a game or there is a bot but punishing solo players seems mean too. I don't think afkers should be allowed to sit at spawn. Rather someone not moving be kicked from instance and rewards be given based on outmanned scale. Can't really tell most times if people are playing bad on purpose.

    Some get caught up in the melee and forget to grab points, some seem lagged, some seem over powered for the rank they are in (like one warrior who literally won the match for the team. Rest of them were easily dispatched when he wasn't around, so the just kept near him and avoided fights). I liked the match where we were slaughtering the other team, we finally just decided to do some dueling until the end. At least people weren't getting overly frustrated. Still think we should be allowed to forfeit so we could get in queue for maybe abetter match faster.

    If there were 5 man q, there would be more pvp guilds.

    My guild is a pvp guild and we got guys from all over playing at all times.

    You could definitely always find a team.

    People always found a team when they wanted to play HA in gw1.

    Finding a team is very present throughout the game and players with erratic times manage to do it.

    so, are you deluding yourself that if suddenly 5v5 was the way to play.
    current pvp population would form pvp guilds to play 5v5, instead of leaving the game and doing something else?
    Do you actually believe that this will happen?

    PS.
    League of Legends tried the same thing.
    game with propably 10000x bigger player base, buckled. ALOT of people quit. Everyone stopped giving a kitten about the game due to unfair matchmaking.
    It was one if not the worst patch in league history, and let me tell you, there were so kitten patches out there.

  • Crab Fear.1624Crab Fear.1624 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited January 24, 2020

    @Leonidrex.5649 said:

    @Crab Fear.1624 said:

    @XatraZaytrax.2601 said:
    If there were 5 man queues I couldn't play because I no longer have anyone to play with and can't find a good fit guild because of my erratic play times.

    I do hate it when someone is obviously throwing a game or there is a bot but punishing solo players seems mean too. I don't think afkers should be allowed to sit at spawn. Rather someone not moving be kicked from instance and rewards be given based on outmanned scale. Can't really tell most times if people are playing bad on purpose.

    Some get caught up in the melee and forget to grab points, some seem lagged, some seem over powered for the rank they are in (like one warrior who literally won the match for the team. Rest of them were easily dispatched when he wasn't around, so the just kept near him and avoided fights). I liked the match where we were slaughtering the other team, we finally just decided to do some dueling until the end. At least people weren't getting overly frustrated. Still think we should be allowed to forfeit so we could get in queue for maybe abetter match faster.

    If there were 5 man q, there would be more pvp guilds.

    My guild is a pvp guild and we got guys from all over playing at all times.

    You could definitely always find a team.

    People always found a team when they wanted to play HA in gw1.

    Finding a team is very present throughout the game and players with erratic times manage to do it.

    so, are you deluding yourself that if suddenly 5v5 was the way to play.
    current pvp population would form pvp guilds to play 5v5, instead of leaving the game and doing something else?
    Do you actually believe that this will happen?

    PS.
    League of Legends tried the same thing.
    game with propably 10000x bigger player base, buckled. ALOT of people quit. Everyone stopped giving a kitten about the game due to unfair matchmaking.
    It was one if not the worst patch in league history, and let me tell you, there were so kitten patches out there.

    Yeah, GW2 pvp just exploded in popularity when they removed the ability to form teams. /s

    I believe that if the game has a future, then yes teams would increase PvP activity.

    If it doesn't, then no, and no solo q won't make it grow.

    It will be official ded gaem if they do that.

    Soon™ ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) nom nom nom🥔
    Fun Daredevil

  • Leonidrex.5649Leonidrex.5649 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Crab Fear.1624 said:

    @Leonidrex.5649 said:

    @Crab Fear.1624 said:

    @XatraZaytrax.2601 said:
    If there were 5 man queues I couldn't play because I no longer have anyone to play with and can't find a good fit guild because of my erratic play times.

    I do hate it when someone is obviously throwing a game or there is a bot but punishing solo players seems mean too. I don't think afkers should be allowed to sit at spawn. Rather someone not moving be kicked from instance and rewards be given based on outmanned scale. Can't really tell most times if people are playing bad on purpose.

    Some get caught up in the melee and forget to grab points, some seem lagged, some seem over powered for the rank they are in (like one warrior who literally won the match for the team. Rest of them were easily dispatched when he wasn't around, so the just kept near him and avoided fights). I liked the match where we were slaughtering the other team, we finally just decided to do some dueling until the end. At least people weren't getting overly frustrated. Still think we should be allowed to forfeit so we could get in queue for maybe abetter match faster.

    If there were 5 man q, there would be more pvp guilds.

    My guild is a pvp guild and we got guys from all over playing at all times.

    You could definitely always find a team.

    People always found a team when they wanted to play HA in gw1.

    Finding a team is very present throughout the game and players with erratic times manage to do it.

    so, are you deluding yourself that if suddenly 5v5 was the way to play.
    current pvp population would form pvp guilds to play 5v5, instead of leaving the game and doing something else?
    Do you actually believe that this will happen?

    PS.
    League of Legends tried the same thing.
    game with propably 10000x bigger player base, buckled. ALOT of people quit. Everyone stopped giving a kitten about the game due to unfair matchmaking.
    It was one if not the worst patch in league history, and let me tell you, there were so kitten patches out there.

    Yeah, GW2 pvp just exploded in popularity when they removed the ability to form teams. /s

    I believe that if the game has a future, then yes teams would increase PvP activity.

    If it doesn't, then no, and no solo q won't make it grow.

    It will be official ded gaem if they do that.

    it will be officially ridden with trolls and dead game if you bring back 5man, you will CONSTANTLY play against trolly kitten like 5x bunker fb.
    or 5x core 1shot mes. it almost destroyed the game like league, thinking that it will help gw2 is delusional.

  • Eddbopkins.2630Eddbopkins.2630 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited January 25, 2020

    @Leonidrex.5649 said:

    @Crab Fear.1624 said:

    @Leonidrex.5649 said:

    @Crab Fear.1624 said:

    @XatraZaytrax.2601 said:
    If there were 5 man queues I couldn't play because I no longer have anyone to play with and can't find a good fit guild because of my erratic play times.

    I do hate it when someone is obviously throwing a game or there is a bot but punishing solo players seems mean too. I don't think afkers should be allowed to sit at spawn. Rather someone not moving be kicked from instance and rewards be given based on outmanned scale. Can't really tell most times if people are playing bad on purpose.

    Some get caught up in the melee and forget to grab points, some seem lagged, some seem over powered for the rank they are in (like one warrior who literally won the match for the team. Rest of them were easily dispatched when he wasn't around, so the just kept near him and avoided fights). I liked the match where we were slaughtering the other team, we finally just decided to do some dueling until the end. At least people weren't getting overly frustrated. Still think we should be allowed to forfeit so we could get in queue for maybe abetter match faster.

    If there were 5 man q, there would be more pvp guilds.

    My guild is a pvp guild and we got guys from all over playing at all times.

    You could definitely always find a team.

    People always found a team when they wanted to play HA in gw1.

    Finding a team is very present throughout the game and players with erratic times manage to do it.

    so, are you deluding yourself that if suddenly 5v5 was the way to play.
    current pvp population would form pvp guilds to play 5v5, instead of leaving the game and doing something else?
    Do you actually believe that this will happen?

    PS.
    League of Legends tried the same thing.
    game with propably 10000x bigger player base, buckled. ALOT of people quit. Everyone stopped giving a kitten about the game due to unfair matchmaking.
    It was one if not the worst patch in league history, and let me tell you, there were so kitten patches out there.

    Yeah, GW2 pvp just exploded in popularity when they removed the ability to form teams. /s

    I believe that if the game has a future, then yes teams would increase PvP activity.

    If it doesn't, then no, and no solo q won't make it grow.

    It will be official ded gaem if they do that.

    it will be officially ridden with trolls and dead game if you bring back 5man, you will CONSTANTLY play against trolly kitten like 5x bunker fb.
    or 5x core 1shot mes. it almost destroyed the game like league, thinking that it will help gw2 is delusional.

    If u think 5x of one class will happen, then u don't have an understanding of ranked cuz it doesn't allow u to do that in unranked so I don't think they'll let u do it in ranked.

  • Kaburro.4712Kaburro.4712 Member ✭✭✭

    To be honest after 4.5k games and 6 years on this forum every season I see same complains. I got suspendend from forum (can't open threads (And I don't give a cat)) . But the conclusion I came to is...: Anet team must be having a good really time reading this kind of complain while they open a bottle of wine and laugh about the money they earned today.

  • @gdubze.6015 said:

    @phalaris.5134 said:
    I want to chip in here: I was the guy saying: Most welcome!

    I never did pay anyone nor did I ever participated in win trading or any other sneaky way to climb a ladder in the almighty and prestigious GW2 PvP. I jumped onto the bandwagon and trolled with MOST WELCOME for kitten and giggles. I didn't expect in my wildest dreams such vivid silver platter in the forum.

    I appreciate the post though but somehow a waste of time. Sorry mate.

    This post was to highlight the actual wintrader that got paid by someone, whether or not it was you was irrelevant. If you enjoy trolling people that is your choice I never made any assumptions or accusations.

    Well, look at that. You blocked and whispered to me that you reported me with screenshots. Just to refresh your memory. It's all good, no biggy.

  • Cyninja.2954Cyninja.2954 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited January 25, 2020

    The main issue is:
    There is not enough players to sustain the game mode but no one wants to admit this.

    My personal stance is, I am absolutely against:

    • win trading
    • lax penalties for abusers (of any kind) though I understand the financial aspect behind this approach (there are sufficient studies which point to temporary bans being more effective than permanent ones in some cases)
    • bots (sorry but this is hilarious by now. You can't tell me it's impossible to track bots who play thousands of games and redistribute their wealth)
    • match-manipulation of any kind

    The problem is, if a sudden influx of bans reduces the pvp population even more, you might as well shut down the game mode. We already have the situation where depending on time of day, platin ranked players get matches with low gold even as far as silver.

    Everybody just keeps talking about balance and once balance is better everything will be fine. No it will not. Balance will not fix core issues which have persisted for years with the game mode. All a balance patch will do (ideally, this might backfire terribly too) is put a coat of new paint on the issue until the paint has dried and starts to peel off again.

  • Khalisto.5780Khalisto.5780 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Eddbopkins.2630 said:

    @Tharan.9085 said:

    @Eddbopkins.2630 said:
    The afk guy could and should of left the match. It achieves the same goal but with making 4 other people lose rank.
    The only reason to stay in the match is because you want to screw over someone on your team. Some one on the enemy team did not want someone on the afkers team to gain ranking and or straight up wanted someone to lose ranking.
    That's what I get from the chat log.
    2 people in that sitchuation need lifetime bans.

    Wrong, its not to screw over others but to not screw over yourself via match leaving penality.

    If that's his 1st time doing it for the day then it's only a 3 minute wait nothing to complain about. But for the 4 other people who have to suffer the In justices of his bad moralitity for taking bribes it's ok for them to feel cheated right? If u are a serial afker well then that's grounds for perma ban. Doesn't matter about penalties. He deserves a perma ban.

    +He already screwed over him self by afking and taking a loss but he doesn't care cuz he got gold from the enemy team. That's ok to you?

    players with this behavior usually do it a lot, so leaving would get him 40+min dishonor

  • Khalisto.5780Khalisto.5780 Member ✭✭✭✭

    i dont believe in wintrading lower ranks, below gold 2 literally anything could be a reason to afk

    like jumping 2x into 3 ppl mid and die in 1 sec

    then going in map chat say "gg no team"

    I know because I've been there punishing my teammates for "their" mistakes

  • MyPuppy.8970MyPuppy.8970 Member ✭✭✭✭

    What's the point in all this metagaming anyway? There is nothing to gain...

  • gdubze.6015gdubze.6015 Member ✭✭✭

    @phalaris.5134 said:

    Well, look at that. You blocked and whispered to me that you reported me with screenshots. Just to refresh your memory. It's all good, no biggy.

    I always block trolls and report match manipulation but I was refering to this post and not what happened in game. Its Anets decision to take the information I provided and make an assessment of the case based upon the evidence they have. And for you trolling on such a serious subject you will remain blocked. Have a good day.

  • Leonidrex.5649Leonidrex.5649 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Eddbopkins.2630 said:

    @Leonidrex.5649 said:

    @Crab Fear.1624 said:

    @Leonidrex.5649 said:

    @Crab Fear.1624 said:

    @XatraZaytrax.2601 said:
    If there were 5 man queues I couldn't play because I no longer have anyone to play with and can't find a good fit guild because of my erratic play times.

    I do hate it when someone is obviously throwing a game or there is a bot but punishing solo players seems mean too. I don't think afkers should be allowed to sit at spawn. Rather someone not moving be kicked from instance and rewards be given based on outmanned scale. Can't really tell most times if people are playing bad on purpose.

    Some get caught up in the melee and forget to grab points, some seem lagged, some seem over powered for the rank they are in (like one warrior who literally won the match for the team. Rest of them were easily dispatched when he wasn't around, so the just kept near him and avoided fights). I liked the match where we were slaughtering the other team, we finally just decided to do some dueling until the end. At least people weren't getting overly frustrated. Still think we should be allowed to forfeit so we could get in queue for maybe abetter match faster.

    If there were 5 man q, there would be more pvp guilds.

    My guild is a pvp guild and we got guys from all over playing at all times.

    You could definitely always find a team.

    People always found a team when they wanted to play HA in gw1.

    Finding a team is very present throughout the game and players with erratic times manage to do it.

    so, are you deluding yourself that if suddenly 5v5 was the way to play.
    current pvp population would form pvp guilds to play 5v5, instead of leaving the game and doing something else?
    Do you actually believe that this will happen?

    PS.
    League of Legends tried the same thing.
    game with propably 10000x bigger player base, buckled. ALOT of people quit. Everyone stopped giving a kitten about the game due to unfair matchmaking.
    It was one if not the worst patch in league history, and let me tell you, there were so kitten patches out there.

    Yeah, GW2 pvp just exploded in popularity when they removed the ability to form teams. /s

    I believe that if the game has a future, then yes teams would increase PvP activity.

    If it doesn't, then no, and no solo q won't make it grow.

    It will be official ded gaem if they do that.

    it will be officially ridden with trolls and dead game if you bring back 5man, you will CONSTANTLY play against trolly kitten like 5x bunker fb.
    or 5x core 1shot mes. it almost destroyed the game like league, thinking that it will help gw2 is delusional.

    If u think 5x of one class will happen, then u don't have an understanding of ranked cuz it doesn't allow u to do that in unranked so I don't think they'll let u do it in ranked.

    another clueless sheep, class swapping exists boyo.

  • Crab Fear.1624Crab Fear.1624 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Leonidrex.5649 said:

    @Eddbopkins.2630 said:

    @Leonidrex.5649 said:

    @Crab Fear.1624 said:

    @Leonidrex.5649 said:

    @Crab Fear.1624 said:

    @XatraZaytrax.2601 said:
    If there were 5 man queues I couldn't play because I no longer have anyone to play with and can't find a good fit guild because of my erratic play times.

    I do hate it when someone is obviously throwing a game or there is a bot but punishing solo players seems mean too. I don't think afkers should be allowed to sit at spawn. Rather someone not moving be kicked from instance and rewards be given based on outmanned scale. Can't really tell most times if people are playing bad on purpose.

    Some get caught up in the melee and forget to grab points, some seem lagged, some seem over powered for the rank they are in (like one warrior who literally won the match for the team. Rest of them were easily dispatched when he wasn't around, so the just kept near him and avoided fights). I liked the match where we were slaughtering the other team, we finally just decided to do some dueling until the end. At least people weren't getting overly frustrated. Still think we should be allowed to forfeit so we could get in queue for maybe abetter match faster.

    If there were 5 man q, there would be more pvp guilds.

    My guild is a pvp guild and we got guys from all over playing at all times.

    You could definitely always find a team.

    People always found a team when they wanted to play HA in gw1.

    Finding a team is very present throughout the game and players with erratic times manage to do it.

    so, are you deluding yourself that if suddenly 5v5 was the way to play.
    current pvp population would form pvp guilds to play 5v5, instead of leaving the game and doing something else?
    Do you actually believe that this will happen?

    PS.
    League of Legends tried the same thing.
    game with propably 10000x bigger player base, buckled. ALOT of people quit. Everyone stopped giving a kitten about the game due to unfair matchmaking.
    It was one if not the worst patch in league history, and let me tell you, there were so kitten patches out there.

    Yeah, GW2 pvp just exploded in popularity when they removed the ability to form teams. /s

    I believe that if the game has a future, then yes teams would increase PvP activity.

    If it doesn't, then no, and no solo q won't make it grow.

    It will be official ded gaem if they do that.

    it will be officially ridden with trolls and dead game if you bring back 5man, you will CONSTANTLY play against trolly kitten like 5x bunker fb.
    or 5x core 1shot mes. it almost destroyed the game like league, thinking that it will help gw2 is delusional.

    If u think 5x of one class will happen, then u don't have an understanding of ranked cuz it doesn't allow u to do that in unranked so I don't think they'll let u do it in ranked.

    another clueless sheep, class swapping exists boyo.

    It is not like they cant prevent that with some changes.

    Soon™ ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) nom nom nom🥔
    Fun Daredevil

  • JTGuevara.9018JTGuevara.9018 Member ✭✭✭

    "ty for the 8g sir!"
    "most welcome"

    I'm just shaking my head at how BLATANT it is. They don't even care enough to whisper.

  • At least those who shout out in chat are honest about it so you can write off the match. Rather brutal honesty then what was happening the last few nights.

    Had multiple matches where we were beating the other team or at least neck-and-neck, then suddenly two or more of my team checked out. Like one thief -- in three different matches -- started about halfway through the match to run from every fight, which the thief had been handily winning during the first part of the match, not capping points they were near even when an enemy wasn't even close.

    Then there was a guard-ranger duo doing the same. Halfway through a match they started to run from fights. They would stand near enemy point and would only move to cap when I showed up. You could see then standing next to the point on the map and I would go to see of they needed help only to find them standing idly, no enemy -- dead or alive-- in sight and run on point when I got near.

    The only reasons I could think of for the deception was they wanted to get full points or because they did not want to make it obvious what they were doing. But in the end it was frustrating to see it happen. Now if I see any of those players on my team I know it is an automatic loss. And I am not a person to just stand idle, so I keep trying even though it means nothing. It makes it hard for me to play again.

    I don't like being in a slaughter match, but if all my team members are honestly trying hard and are human, at least I know we've done our best.

  • Psycoprophet.8107Psycoprophet.8107 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Bottom line is duo q or any teaming up for that matter against a team of solo q players is not a even playing feild as duo q more times than not are a team of like skilled players and solo especially with this games population are not matched with like skilled teammates. Anyone can see that a premade team even if just duo would be a advantage in most cases over a team of solo q. This type of game should definitely allow players to partner up with their friends to pvp as if it didn't that would be ridiculous, as ridiculous as it is that the teams arnt in their own pvp mode against other teams. Solo a should be just that-solo q regardless of population.