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Bjora: Where is Koda Trial "Koda be praised/Plant Banners ..."?


Zok.4956

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Hi,

where in Bjora Marches is the Trail of Koda challenge for "Plant Banners to Challenge the Svanir" from "Koda Be Praised" from S5E2.

I have tried three svanir-koda-trials

  • in a small cave (the third split-cave of the Drakkar fight) north-east of POI "Deny of Whispers" (it starts usually a few minutes after the drakkar fight)
  • in the cave at POI "Cavern of the Lost sons"
  • near POI "Bear shrine" (in north-east corner of the map)

None of them completed the achievement and I do not see other koda-trials with Svanir in the map.

Thanks a lot for a little help. :)

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Hi,

thanks for all your responses. Here is some more information about it. In short: I think its bugged at the moment

The only Trials of Koda with enemy patrols I saw for hours are in Aberrant Forest (Aberrant Patrol) and in Fallen Mountains (Fallen Patrol) South-east of POI bear shrine.They both have always the same event chain:

  1. Defeat the patrolling (Fallen/Aberrant): Trial Primer: Finish defeated enemy patrols to release their Unstable Essence
  2. Trial of Koda: Defeat the leader of the enemy Patrol: Call out the enemy leader
  3. Trial of Koda: Defeat the Leader of the Champion Kodan/Fallen Berserker

And sometimes, at the same time, there spawns nearby another champion with a Trial-of-Koda-option (so there are two champions and two Koda-Trails nearby at the same time):Champion Fallen/Aberrant Kodan Berserker: Trial Primer: Use unstable essence to defeat the Champion.

So, with the same map-logic like the above events, the Svanir-Patrol with the Trial-of-Koda option should spawn somewhere in/near Svanir Plateau. But it never does.

And right now, during my writing, the fallen-Patrol-event-chain in Fallen Montains is bugged: A new fallen-Patrol with the trial-option starts directly 1-2 minutes after the champ was killed and the trial was succesfully finished. Again and again. I stood there and waited and saw it repeating 5 times until I logged out.

I think now, that the "Defeat the patrolling Svanir" event with the trial-option is bugged and actually never spawns.

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@"Zok.4956" said:I think now, that the "Defeat the patrolling Svanir" event with the trial-option is bugged and actually never spawns.

And directly after I posted this and after I switched the map for the Drakkar-Meta, a trial event marker for "Defeat the patrolling Sons of Svanir" popped up. It was on the road between POI "Ravens Gate" and POI "Gates of Svanir". I killed a lot of patrols on that road, but never before had a patrol the trial-option.

It was at the time of the escort-event-pre of the Drakkar fight, so everyone on the map was doing the Drakkar-meta and because I was alone, there was not enough essence to start the trail, so I do not now know exactly, if that is really the right event. But I am pretty confident.

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@Ayrilana.1396 said:You have to complete the trial prep before killing the final mob. Even though the event still stays open allowing you to do the trial prep, it won’t count as you’ve seen. I’m not sure if the other trials behaved that way as well.

Thats what I meant.

The first stage/trial prep is to kill mobs that give essences and then interact with the essences (which fills a trial-event-bar) but do not kill all the mobs before the trial-event-bar is full (the preparation is complete). After the preparation is done, the mobs can be killed and then the next stage of the trial starts and you have to interact with a horn that is laying on the ground nearby to call the champ. And after that it is easy, you only have to kill the Champion that spawns.

This was the event chain I have seen with the Aberant and Fallen patrol events, and the Svanir started the same. But when I was soloing the event, there were not enough mobs to kill that give essences, so the bar could not fully filled for completing the trial-preparation. Maybe because I was solo there (re-)spawned not enough mobs.

I checked this now two-times with a character that waites there . The event only starts around every two hours during the escort event of the Drakkar-map-meta and because everyone os doing the Drakkar-meta, no one else is there for the patrol-event.

So, if someone is on EU-Servers and wants do to the event in around 40-50 minutes, please join me, I am already waiting ingame for the event. ^^

P.S. It is not exactely every 120 minutes, it was with a few minutes offset. So, there will probably be days, when the event does not spawn during drakkar-meta.

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There were enough for me when I did it solo. It only took 4-5.

Also, as an FYI, you get achievement progression upon completing that trial prep event. Interacting with the object to call the champ, or even defeating the champ, isn’t required. That’s the same for all of the others for those that happen to come across this thread.

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@Zok.4956 said:

@Ayrilana.1396 said:You have to complete the trial prep before killing the final mob. Even though the event still stays open allowing you to do the trial prep, it won’t count as you’ve seen. I’m not sure if the other trials behaved that way as well.

Thats what I meant.

The first stage/trial prep is to kill mobs that give essences and then interact with the essences (which fills a trial-event-bar) but do not kill all the mobs before the trial-event-bar is full (the preparation is complete). After the preparation is done, the mobs can be killed and then the next stage of the trial starts and you have to interact with a horn that is laying on the ground nearby to call the champ. And after that it is easy, you only have to kill the Champion that spawns.

This was the event chain I have seen with the Aberrant and Fallen patrol events, and the Svanir started the same. But when I was soloing the event, there were not enough mobs to kill that give essences, so the bar could not fully filled for completing the trial-preparation. Maybe because I was solo there (re-)spawned not enough mobs.

I checked this now two-times with a character that waites there . The event only starts around every two hours during the escort event of the Drakkar-map-meta and because everyone os doing the Drakkar-meta, no one else is there for the patrol-event.

So, if someone is on EU-Servers and wants do to the event in around 40-50 minutes, please join me, I am already waiting ingame for the event. ^^

P.S. It is not exactely every 120 minutes, it was with a few minutes offset. So, there will probably be days, when the event does not spawn during drakkar-meta.

So, we were a handful of players, the patrol respawned as planned (around 130 minutes after the last), we did the preparation properly, then the trial started and then we killed the trial-champ and the trial-event succeded - but it didn't count for the achievement.

And some player in map-chat wrote, that he got the achievement from the Aberrant Patrol in the Aberrant Forrest.

Now I really believe, that this is buggy.

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@Zok.4956 said:

@Ayrilana.1396 said:You have to complete the trial prep before killing the final mob. Even though the event still stays open allowing you to do the trial prep, it won’t count as you’ve seen. I’m not sure if the other trials behaved that way as well.

Thats what I meant.

The first stage/trial prep is to kill mobs that give essences and then interact with the essences (which fills a trial-event-bar) but do not kill all the mobs before the trial-event-bar is full (the preparation is complete). After the preparation is done, the mobs can be killed and then the next stage of the trial starts and you have to interact with a horn that is laying on the ground nearby to call the champ. And after that it is easy, you only have to kill the Champion that spawns.

This was the event chain I have seen with the Aberrant and Fallen patrol events, and the Svanir started the same. But when I was soloing the event, there were not enough mobs to kill that give essences, so the bar could not fully filled for completing the trial-preparation. Maybe because I was solo there (re-)spawned not enough mobs.

I checked this now two-times with a character that waites there . The event only starts around every two hours during the escort event of the Drakkar-map-meta and because everyone os doing the Drakkar-meta, no one else is there for the patrol-event.

So, if someone is on EU-Servers and wants do to the event in around 40-50 minutes, please join me, I am already waiting ingame for the event. ^^

P.S. It is not exactely every 120 minutes, it was with a few minutes offset. So, there will probably be days, when the event does not spawn during drakkar-meta.

So, we were a handful of players, the patrol respawned as planned (around 130 minutes after the last), we did the preparation properly, then the trial started and then we killed the trial-champ and the trial-event succeded - but it didn't count for the achievement.

And some player in map-chat wrote, that he got the achievement from the Aberrant Patrol in the Aberrant Forrest.

Now I really believe, that this is buggy.

Properly as you did the trial prep BEFORE the final patrol mob was killed?

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@Jayden Reese.9542 said:The fact that the achieve seems to trigger of killing mobs to release essence but don't kill all the mobs because if you do before enough essences are released you don't get achieve is bad. Should be triggered off summon at the horn blow or killing champ cause that's not just intuitive unless you there solo the odds are someone comes finishes them off

True that it’s not intuitive as I remember doing many of the trials without getting progression before figuring out that I had to do the event that triggers the trial.

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@Ayrilana.1396 said:you get achievement progression upon completing that trial prep event. Interacting with the object to call the champ, or even defeating the champ, isn’t required. That’s the same for all of the others for those that happen to come across this thread.

Thanks, that was very helpful info.

I went to Aberrant Forrest (because, I think the patrols respawn there faster) and did it solo a few times (changed maps for this, so I have not to wait too long). I lured one mob away, killed only this mob, waited until I lost aggro from the others (or they attack and interrupt my channeling), channeled the item from the mob and repeated this with the next mob of the patrol until the prep-progress-bar was full. I did not care to call or fight the champ.

I repeated this same procedure exactly the same way 3 times (on 3 maps) until finally my achievement was progressed (and finally finished).

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@Jayden Reese.9542 said:

@Jayden Reese.9542 said:The fact that the achieve seems to trigger of killing mobs to release essence but don't kill all the mobs because if you do before enough essences are released you don't get achieve is bad. Should be triggered off summon at the horn blow or killing champ cause that's not just intuitive unless you there solo the odds are someone comes finishes them off

True that it’s not intuitive as I remember doing many of the trials without getting progression before figuring out that I had to do the event that triggers the trial.

Yeah I get it it's just very easy to screw this one up esp as like reaper or other aoe stong classes or if 20 players are there. I got it and just left not even bothering with the champ

It’s doable with a large group if you have people dedicated to channeling the dropped items. The mobs are scaled up enough where you should have enough time before they all are killed but of course communication beforehand to everyone doesn’t hurt either.

I don’t see why they couldn’t include a better tooltip explaining the achievement. It’s not like there’s a lack of space.

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@Jayden Reese.9542 said:The fact that the achieve seems to trigger of killing mobs to release essence but don't kill all the mobs because if you do before enough essences are released you don't get achieve is bad. Should be triggered off summon at the horn blow or killing champ cause that's not just intuitive unless you there solo the odds are someone comes finishes them off

I agree. The achievement should be triggered with the same playstyle that triggers the next step in the koda-trial (the spawn of the horn-item).

I think the actual trigger-mechanism (and that it sometimes not triggers, even if the player is doing everything identical) is not intentional and that a dev has unintentionally used some wrong trigger-conditions for the achievement.

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@Zok.4956 said:

@Jayden Reese.9542 said:The fact that the achieve seems to trigger of killing mobs to release essence but don't kill all the mobs because if you do before enough essences are released you don't get achieve is bad. Should be triggered off summon at the horn blow or killing champ cause that's not just intuitive unless you there solo the odds are someone comes finishes them off

I agree. The achievement should be triggered with the same playstyle that triggers the next step in the koda-trial (the spawn of the horn-item).

The problem with that is only one person can interact with the horn.

I think the actual trigger-mechanism (and that it sometimes not triggers, even if the player is doing everything identical) is not intentional and that a dev has unintentionally used some wrong trigger-conditions for the achievement.

All of the other trials give credit by doing the event that contains the trial prep. Changing it to give credit with initiating, or beating, the trial would deviate from that.

What Anet could do is give credit if the event is still live for the trial instead of needing to do the trial step first before finishing the objective for the event itself. I’m not sure if it’s already that way for the others and this one is just different.

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@Ayrilana.1396 said:

@Zok.4956 said:

@"Jayden Reese.9542" said:The fact that the achieve seems to trigger of killing mobs to release essence but don't kill all the mobs because if you do before enough essences are released you don't get achieve is bad. Should be triggered off summon at the horn blow or killing champ cause that's not just intuitive unless you there solo the odds are someone comes finishes them off

I agree. The achievement should be triggered with the same playstyle that triggers the next step in the koda-trial (the spawn of the horn-item).

The problem with that is only one person can interact with the horn.

No, I did not mean that interacting with the horn should trigger the achievement. Successful finishing the trial-prep should not only spawn the horn but also progress the achievement for all that participated in the prep.

Isnt it inconsistent, that the "bonus-event" (the trial with horn and then champ) spawns, even if the trial-prep is finished only after the patrol is already dead, but the achievement does not progress in this case?

I think the actual trigger-mechanism (and that it sometimes not triggers, even if the player is doing everything identical) is not intentional and that a dev has unintentionally used some wrong trigger-conditions for the achievement.

All of the other trials give credit by doing the event that contains the trial prep.

I did not noticed that. Would also be OK. That would mean: If all patrol mobs are dead -> event succeded -> achievment progresses.

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Hello,

i wanted to share my experience about the part of an achievement "Planting Banner...". I've been searching around for more than 14 hours and nothing happened. After some discussion in the map chat and checking some guides from Reddit. I know three locations in East Bjora Marches. The first main problem is... the patrols are very rare to spawn with the Koda Trial special event.The another problem was the essences from the mob corpses. They're disappearing too quick for not finishing the trial preparation. Even with some preparation with the essences i finished it. Event disappeared fully for no reason.

So, it was hard for most of the players that wanted to finish the part "Planting Banners..." in Koda Be Praised.

EDIT:After finishing the trial preparation of any of the patrols in East Bjora Marches. The event completely disappeared after killing the remaining mobs. Annoying.

EDIT 2:I finally got the "Planting Banners..." finished after many tries. Still bugged.

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