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What are the odds we will see a new round of especs this year?

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  • Zexanima.7851Zexanima.7851 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Can't calculate the odds but anet has made no hints that there will ever be any more especs. They said "expansion level content" but that in no way means "especs".

    Depression and anxiety are the worst...

  • Randulf.7614Randulf.7614 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited January 30, 2020

    3720 to 1, same as successfully navigating an asteroid field

    What sleep is here? What dreams there are in the unctuous coiling of the snakes mortal shuffling. weapon in my hand. My hand the arcing deathblow at the end of all things. The horror. The horror. I embrace it. . .

  • Amaranthe.3578Amaranthe.3578 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Zexanima.7851 said:
    Can't calculate the odds but anet has made no hints that there will ever be any more especs. They said "expansion level content" but that in no way means "especs".

    What's more "expansion level" than e-specs?
    I think we just need another round of them. 3 especs for each class would be perfect

  • ZeftheWicked.3076ZeftheWicked.3076 Member ✭✭✭✭

    You missplaced your numbers in title. Pretty sure you wanted to say 2200.

  • Amaranthe.3578Amaranthe.3578 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Randulf.7614 said:
    3720 to 1, same as successfully navigating an asteroid field

    What makes you say that?

  • Amaranthe.3578Amaranthe.3578 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @ZeftheWicked.3076 said:
    You missplaced your numbers in title. Pretty sure you wanted to say 2200.

    lol Im trying to be serious here.

  • Zexanima.7851Zexanima.7851 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Amaranthe.3578 said:

    @Zexanima.7851 said:
    Can't calculate the odds but anet has made no hints that there will ever be any more especs. They said "expansion level content" but that in no way means "especs".

    What's more "expansion level" than e-specs?
    I think we just need another round of them. 3 especs for each class would be perfect

    I would agree with you but I dont think anet sees it that way. So far, "expansion level" has meant masteries that just unlock chests/portals, strike missions, and some new maps. 3 for each profession? That's asking too much for even an expansion.

    Depression and anxiety are the worst...

  • Jayden Reese.9542Jayden Reese.9542 Member ✭✭✭✭

    zero. like you know even if 4 more episodes at 2 month per you in 2021 basically and they won't be in those

  • Randulf.7614Randulf.7614 Member ✭✭✭✭

    In all serious, it is difficult to tell. Releasing them in stages cant work, so we have to get them in one lump. We have a 900 skill balance patch coming in the next couple of months - that could help pave the way for new elites. Or it could signal elites are done and they are focused on sorting what exists out going forward.

    Im not expecting to see any outside of a proper large scale content drop if we ever get those again. They are struggling to deliver right now and Im unconvinced they are able squeeze elites in even if they want to.

    What sleep is here? What dreams there are in the unctuous coiling of the snakes mortal shuffling. weapon in my hand. My hand the arcing deathblow at the end of all things. The horror. The horror. I embrace it. . .

  • Amaranthe.3578Amaranthe.3578 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Zexanima.7851 said:

    @Amaranthe.3578 said:

    @Zexanima.7851 said:
    Can't calculate the odds but anet has made no hints that there will ever be any more especs. They said "expansion level content" but that in no way means "especs".

    What's more "expansion level" than e-specs?
    I think we just need another round of them. 3 especs for each class would be perfect

    I would agree with you but I dont think anet sees it that way. So far, "expansion level" has meant masteries that just unlock chests/portals, strike missions, and some new maps. 3 for each profession? That's asking too much for even an expansion.

    Well, Im asking for just one espec for each class. With the previous ones we will have 3 for each. They can release them as paid content outside of the LW episodes they give out for free.

  • Amaranthe.3578Amaranthe.3578 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Jayden Reese.9542 said:
    zero. like you know even if 4 more episodes at 2 month per you in 2021 basically and they won't be in those

    If the saga is supposed to be expansion level what prevents them from releasing a new round of especs(one for each) as a paid content release? I wouldn't mind paying for a new round of especs.

  • Amaranthe.3578Amaranthe.3578 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited January 30, 2020

    @Randulf.7614 said:
    In all serious, it is difficult to tell. Releasing them in stages cant work, so we have to get them in one lump. We have a 900 skill balance patch coming in the next couple of months - that could help pave the way for new elites. Or it could signal elites are done and they are focused on sorting what exists out going forward.

    Im not expecting to see any outside of a proper large scale content drop if we ever get those again. They are struggling to deliver right now and Im unconvinced they are able squeeze elites in even if they want to.

    They can sell them individually. LW episodes = login to get for free. Icebrood Saga especs = pay. Seems fair to me.

  • Zexanima.7851Zexanima.7851 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Amaranthe.3578 said:

    @Zexanima.7851 said:

    @Amaranthe.3578 said:

    @Zexanima.7851 said:
    Can't calculate the odds but anet has made no hints that there will ever be any more especs. They said "expansion level content" but that in no way means "especs".

    What's more "expansion level" than e-specs?
    I think we just need another round of them. 3 especs for each class would be perfect

    I would agree with you but I dont think anet sees it that way. So far, "expansion level" has meant masteries that just unlock chests/portals, strike missions, and some new maps. 3 for each profession? That's asking too much for even an expansion.

    Well, Im asking for just one espec for each class. With the previous ones we will have 3 for each. They can release them as paid content outside of the LW episodes they give out for free.

    Ah, well, either way. I think (almost) everyone has come to the conclusion "We would really really x100 really like new especs but I doubt it will ever happen". I've found when it come to content releases anet leaves me floating in this pool of doubt and disappointment, so best not to hope for anything in particular.

    Depression and anxiety are the worst...

  • Amaranthe.3578Amaranthe.3578 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Zexanima.7851 said:

    @Amaranthe.3578 said:

    @Zexanima.7851 said:

    @Amaranthe.3578 said:

    @Zexanima.7851 said:
    Can't calculate the odds but anet has made no hints that there will ever be any more especs. They said "expansion level content" but that in no way means "especs".

    What's more "expansion level" than e-specs?
    I think we just need another round of them. 3 especs for each class would be perfect

    I would agree with you but I dont think anet sees it that way. So far, "expansion level" has meant masteries that just unlock chests/portals, strike missions, and some new maps. 3 for each profession? That's asking too much for even an expansion.

    Well, Im asking for just one espec for each class. With the previous ones we will have 3 for each. They can release them as paid content outside of the LW episodes they give out for free.

    Ah, well, either way. I think (almost) everyone has come to the conclusion "We would really really x100 really like new especs but I doubt it will ever happen". I've found when it come to content releases anet leaves me floating in this pool of doubt and disappointment, so best not to hope for anything in particular.

    Would you pay for a new round of e-specs?

  • TheGrimm.5624TheGrimm.5624 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited January 30, 2020

    I have been running with the unfounded and over-optimistic speculation that we will. If we were to see them in this LS it would be earliest in EP3/4.

    Unfounded reasons:

    • They said expansion level content, and yes to me that new e-specs
    • We had a reveal of elite style icons that was data-mined
    • They are doing a large balance patch to tone everything we have now down, and they did similar balances before HoT & PoF elites
    • NPCs foreshadowing classes using different weapons

    I am not looking to raise anyone else's expectation, go with no and you will be happier.

    Envy the Madman his musing when Death comes to make fools of us all.
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  • Zexanima.7851Zexanima.7851 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Amaranthe.3578 said:

    @Zexanima.7851 said:

    @Amaranthe.3578 said:

    @Zexanima.7851 said:

    @Amaranthe.3578 said:

    @Zexanima.7851 said:
    Can't calculate the odds but anet has made no hints that there will ever be any more especs. They said "expansion level content" but that in no way means "especs".

    What's more "expansion level" than e-specs?
    I think we just need another round of them. 3 especs for each class would be perfect

    I would agree with you but I dont think anet sees it that way. So far, "expansion level" has meant masteries that just unlock chests/portals, strike missions, and some new maps. 3 for each profession? That's asking too much for even an expansion.

    Well, Im asking for just one espec for each class. With the previous ones we will have 3 for each. They can release them as paid content outside of the LW episodes they give out for free.

    Ah, well, either way. I think (almost) everyone has come to the conclusion "We would really really x100 really like new especs but I doubt it will ever happen". I've found when it come to content releases anet leaves me floating in this pool of doubt and disappointment, so best not to hope for anything in particular.

    Would you pay for a new round of e-specs?

    Totally, and (completely personal conjecture) I think a lot of people would. That's not enough though. It's much easier for them to farm the gem store with a few skins every now and then than to work hard on new especs that will probably have a much smaller profit margin.

    Depression and anxiety are the worst...

  • Kurrilino.2706Kurrilino.2706 Member ✭✭✭

    @Amaranthe.3578 said:

    @Zexanima.7851 said:
    Can't calculate the odds but anet has made no hints that there will ever be any more especs. They said "expansion level content" but that in no way means "especs".

    What's more "expansion level" than e-specs?
    I think we just need another round of them. 3 especs for each class would be perfect

    Well if you look at what "expansion level" actually means you will figure out that you don't want elite specs with this saga.
    Just look at the "Masteries" Something like open a chest or float enemies for a second but only if they are not powerfull at all.

    You Elite specs would be something like on critical hit you do 1 point more damage but you also get a blue aura around you.
    There is a reason why they call if "Expansion Like" content and not expansion.
    It's like you buy a "car like vehicle" instead a car

  • Amaranthe.3578Amaranthe.3578 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Randulf.7614 said:

    @Amaranthe.3578 said:

    @Randulf.7614 said:
    In all serious, it is difficult to tell. Releasing them in stages cant work, so we have to get them in one lump. We have a 900 skill balance patch coming in the next couple of months - that could help pave the way for new elites. Or it could signal elites are done and they are focused on sorting what exists out going forward.

    Im not expecting to see any outside of a proper large scale content drop if we ever get those again. They are struggling to deliver right now and Im unconvinced they are able squeeze elites in even if they want to.

    They can sell them individually. LW episodes = login to get for free. Icebrood Saga especs = pay. Seems fair to me.

    I 100% disagree with the concept of buying elites. I dont really believe Anet would stoop that low either. A future new player is going to baulk at buying expacs, living world and then on top of that new trait lines as well.

    No, they cant sell elites. The backlash would be tremendous I am certain of that

    Well, if you're a new player you get the especs with the LW episodes perhaps? For a slightly larger gem price? It seems easy to me to work out a fair shake for everyone. As someone who logs in daily and gets the. episodes for free Id gladly pay for especs.

  • Zexanima.7851Zexanima.7851 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @TheGrimm.5624 said:
    I have been running with the unfounded and over-optimistic speculation that we will. If we were to see them in this LS it would be earliest in EP3/4.

    Unfounded reasons:

    • They said expansion level content, and yes to me that new e-specs
    • We had a reveal of elite style icons that was data-mined
    • They are doing a large balance patch to tone everything we have now down, and they did similar balances before HoT & PoF elites
    • NPCs foreshadowing classes using different weapons

    I am not looking to raise anyone else's expectation, go with no and you will be happier.

    You've peaked my interest, what about these data-mined icons and NPC foreshadowing? :open_mouth:

    Depression and anxiety are the worst...

  • Randulf.7614Randulf.7614 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @TheGrimm.5624 said:
    I have been running with the unfounded and over-optimistic speculation that we will. If we were to see them in this LS it would be earliest in EP3/4.

    Unfounded reasons:

    • They said expansion level content, and yes to me that new e-specs
    • We had a reveal of elite style icons that was data-mined
    • They are doing a large balance patch to tone everything we have now down, and they did similar balances before HoT & PoF elites
    • NPCs foreshadowing classes using different weapons

    I am not looking to raise anyone else's expectation, go with no and you will be happier.

    HYPE TRAIN ENGAGED!!

    😂

    What sleep is here? What dreams there are in the unctuous coiling of the snakes mortal shuffling. weapon in my hand. My hand the arcing deathblow at the end of all things. The horror. The horror. I embrace it. . .

  • Amaranthe.3578Amaranthe.3578 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited January 30, 2020

    @Zexanima.7851 said:

    @Amaranthe.3578 said:

    @Zexanima.7851 said:

    @Amaranthe.3578 said:

    @Zexanima.7851 said:

    @Amaranthe.3578 said:

    @Zexanima.7851 said:
    Can't calculate the odds but anet has made no hints that there will ever be any more especs. They said "expansion level content" but that in no way means "especs".

    What's more "expansion level" than e-specs?
    I think we just need another round of them. 3 especs for each class would be perfect

    I would agree with you but I dont think anet sees it that way. So far, "expansion level" has meant masteries that just unlock chests/portals, strike missions, and some new maps. 3 for each profession? That's asking too much for even an expansion.

    Well, Im asking for just one espec for each class. With the previous ones we will have 3 for each. They can release them as paid content outside of the LW episodes they give out for free.

    Ah, well, either way. I think (almost) everyone has come to the conclusion "We would really really x100 really like new especs but I doubt it will ever happen". I've found when it come to content releases anet leaves me floating in this pool of doubt and disappointment, so best not to hope for anything in particular.

    Would you pay for a new round of e-specs?

    Totally, and (completely personal conjecture) I think a lot of people would. That's not enough though. It's much easier for them to farm the gem store with a few skins every now and then than to work hard on new especs that will probably have a much smaller profit margin.

    Perhaps the elites wont be available through the gem store and youd have to buy em for hard cash like exapca? Maybe that will make it worth their time? I dunno. I feel like new especs would bring a tsunami of new and returning players.

  • Zexanima.7851Zexanima.7851 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Amaranthe.3578 said:

    @Zexanima.7851 said:

    @Amaranthe.3578 said:

    @Zexanima.7851 said:

    @Amaranthe.3578 said:

    @Zexanima.7851 said:

    @Amaranthe.3578 said:

    @Zexanima.7851 said:
    Can't calculate the odds but anet has made no hints that there will ever be any more especs. They said "expansion level content" but that in no way means "especs".

    What's more "expansion level" than e-specs?
    I think we just need another round of them. 3 especs for each class would be perfect

    I would agree with you but I dont think anet sees it that way. So far, "expansion level" has meant masteries that just unlock chests/portals, strike missions, and some new maps. 3 for each profession? That's asking too much for even an expansion.

    Well, Im asking for just one espec for each class. With the previous ones we will have 3 for each. They can release them as paid content outside of the LW episodes they give out for free.

    Ah, well, either way. I think (almost) everyone has come to the conclusion "We would really really x100 really like new especs but I doubt it will ever happen". I've found when it come to content releases anet leaves me floating in this pool of doubt and disappointment, so best not to hope for anything in particular.

    Would you pay for a new round of e-specs?

    Totally, and (completely personal conjecture) I think a lot of people would. That's not enough though. It's much easier for them to farm the gem store with a few skins every now and then than to work hard on new especs that will probably have a much smaller profit margin.

    Perhaps the elites wont be available through the gem store and youd have to buy em for hard cash like exapca? Maybe that will make it worth their time? I dunno. I feel like new especs would bring a tsunami of new and returning players.

    They would know better than us. They have the data on the last two expansions. Either way I wish they would just give us a hard "Yes/No" so were were not left hanging in this constant cloud of hope and uncertainty.

    Depression and anxiety are the worst...

  • Amaranthe.3578Amaranthe.3578 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Zexanima.7851 said:

    @Amaranthe.3578 said:

    @Zexanima.7851 said:

    @Amaranthe.3578 said:

    @Zexanima.7851 said:

    @Amaranthe.3578 said:

    @Zexanima.7851 said:

    @Amaranthe.3578 said:

    @Zexanima.7851 said:
    Can't calculate the odds but anet has made no hints that there will ever be any more especs. They said "expansion level content" but that in no way means "especs".

    What's more "expansion level" than e-specs?
    I think we just need another round of them. 3 especs for each class would be perfect

    I would agree with you but I dont think anet sees it that way. So far, "expansion level" has meant masteries that just unlock chests/portals, strike missions, and some new maps. 3 for each profession? That's asking too much for even an expansion.

    Well, Im asking for just one espec for each class. With the previous ones we will have 3 for each. They can release them as paid content outside of the LW episodes they give out for free.

    Ah, well, either way. I think (almost) everyone has come to the conclusion "We would really really x100 really like new especs but I doubt it will ever happen". I've found when it come to content releases anet leaves me floating in this pool of doubt and disappointment, so best not to hope for anything in particular.

    Would you pay for a new round of e-specs?

    Totally, and (completely personal conjecture) I think a lot of people would. That's not enough though. It's much easier for them to farm the gem store with a few skins every now and then than to work hard on new especs that will probably have a much smaller profit margin.

    Perhaps the elites wont be available through the gem store and youd have to buy em for hard cash like exapca? Maybe that will make it worth their time? I dunno. I feel like new especs would bring a tsunami of new and returning players.

    They would know better than us. They have the data on the last two expansions. Either way I wish they would just give us a hard "Yes/No" so were were not left hanging in this constant cloud of hope and uncertainty.

    Couldn't agree more with that statement.

  • Bassdeff.1895Bassdeff.1895 Member ✭✭✭

    I doubt it, we have suposedly 1 month to go before the big balance patch and then it will be a few months of fixing everything they broke. Then maybe they might start thinking of adding more things to balance.

  • mercury ranique.2170mercury ranique.2170 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited January 30, 2020

    None can tell.
    New elites are traditionally part of x-pac content and this is not going to happen.
    However, new elites help keep the game interesting across all game modes so it should be good to have an alternative way to do this. If new elites is the way to give gameplay a new impulse or if another route would be the way is up to Arenanet.

    Personally I would prefer to have a sandboxstyle skill/stats system. It would mean more split for PvP, but also make build matter more there. I doubt it would happen as templates are too new to have such an overhaul anytime soon

  • Astralporing.1957Astralporing.1957 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Amaranthe.3578 said:
    Would you pay for a new round of e-specs?

    Only if they came bundled with an expac.
    Hint: build templates (a feature that could easily be one of many features of an expansion) got monetized to the point where you could buy several expacs for the cost of unlocks for your account. I definitely wouldn't want any kind of similar monetization for especs - and yet i am sure that if thery were to be sold separately through gemstore, it would be exactly what would happen.

    The whole point of a social game is to play with the people you want to play with, not be forced to play with the people you don't.

  • @TheGrimm.5624 said:
    I have been running with the unfounded and over-optimistic speculation that we will. If we were to see them in this LS it would be earliest in EP3/4.

    Unfounded reasons:

    • They said expansion level content, and yes to me that new e-specs
    • We had a reveal of elite style icons that was data-mined
    • They are doing a large balance patch to tone everything we have now down, and they did similar balances before HoT & PoF elites
    • NPCs foreshadowing classes using different weapons

    I am not looking to raise anyone else's expectation, go with no and you will be happier.

    hold on, elite style icons??? I need to see this

  • I don't know if they'll put them out during the Saga.

    I do know that they need to put them out during the Saga.

    I wouldn't pay for them as separate purchases. IMO recent gem store practices and scarce in-game rewards have already counterbalanced selling elite specs, and doing that would be a gross misstep.

    If they want to charge for elite specs, they should be part of an expansion. Selling features piecemeal is disgusting.

  • Danikat.8537Danikat.8537 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Randulf.7614 said:
    In all serious, it is difficult to tell. Releasing them in stages cant work, so we have to get them in one lump. We have a 900 skill balance patch coming in the next couple of months - that could help pave the way for new elites. Or it could signal elites are done and they are focused on sorting what exists out going forward.

    I hadn't thought of it before but you have a point, new elites on top of a massive balance patch could be pretty overwhelming, and it's likely there will be more balance patches/bug fixes following the main patch so everything would keep changing, which is not a great time to try to learn new specs and figure out new builds. So it would make sense to seperate the two.

    I hope we do get new elites at some point, but if we do I suspect it'll be closer to the end of the season than the beginning.

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  • Probably a bigger chance in winning the lotto than seeing a new espec in 2020

  • Xenon.4537Xenon.4537 Member ✭✭✭

    They said "expansion level content" but do you really believe that? I don't know if anyone's been paying attention, but we are 3 episodes (yes episodes, prologue is just a renamed episode kitten) and the content is literally the same as LW season 4. Anyone expecting more is probably setting themselves up for disappointment. Don't hold your breath for especs. Anet would have hyped them if they had any plans for it. That's a major selling point. It would raise the spirit of the entire community and give fans a reason to continue investing in the game. The fact they haven't uttered a word is very telling.

  • @BlackBullWings.2734 said:

    @TheGrimm.5624 said:
    I have been running with the unfounded and over-optimistic speculation that we will. If we were to see them in this LS it would be earliest in EP3/4.

    Unfounded reasons:

    • They said expansion level content, and yes to me that new e-specs
    • We had a reveal of elite style icons that was data-mined
    • They are doing a large balance patch to tone everything we have now down, and they did similar balances before HoT & PoF elites
    • NPCs foreshadowing classes using different weapons

    I am not looking to raise anyone else's expectation, go with no and you will be happier.

    hold on, elite style icons??? I need to see this

    I'm guessing it's a reference to either a group of weapon icons that were mined which seemed to be the same style seen on elite specs (they ended up being for build templates), or a set of blue-colored hero point icons which haven't been used yet.

  • Sobx.1758Sobx.1758 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Who are you even asking right now? Without any official information, asking this question is pointless, anyone can write anything and at this moment it will be as correct as it will be false. And we have no way of knowing which is which. Oof.

  • Strider Pj.2193Strider Pj.2193 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Amaranthe.3578 said:

    @Randulf.7614 said:
    3720 to 1, same as successfully navigating an asteroid field

    What makes you say that?

    Star wars

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  • Amaranthe.3578Amaranthe.3578 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Sobx.1758 said:
    Who are you even asking right now? Without any official information, asking this question is pointless, anyone can write anything and at this moment it will be as correct as it will be false. And we have no way of knowing which is which. Oof.

    Maybe someone knows something

  • Linken.6345Linken.6345 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Zexanima.7851 said:

    @TheGrimm.5624 said:
    I have been running with the unfounded and over-optimistic speculation that we will. If we were to see them in this LS it would be earliest in EP3/4.

    Unfounded reasons:

    • They said expansion level content, and yes to me that new e-specs
    • We had a reveal of elite style icons that was data-mined
    • They are doing a large balance patch to tone everything we have now down, and they did similar balances before HoT & PoF elites
    • NPCs foreshadowing classes using different weapons

    I am not looking to raise anyone else's expectation, go with no and you will be happier.

    You've peaked my interest, what about these data-mined icons and NPC foreshadowing? :open_mouth:

    A necromancer with a shield and other icon for example speargun, spear and staff so atleast 3 specs would get underwater weapons.

  • Astralporing.1957Astralporing.1957 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Linken.6345 said:
    A necromancer with a shield and other icon for example speargun, spear and staff so atleast 3 specs would get underwater weapons.

    So, will never happen.

    The whole point of a social game is to play with the people you want to play with, not be forced to play with the people you don't.

  • maddoctor.2738maddoctor.2738 Member ✭✭✭✭

    On the subject of elite specs:

    Things that we wouldn’t rule out – but that we’re not talking about today – would be like another mount, another elite specialisation, those types of things. Those are all things that traditionally have waited until a boxed product is ready. But instead, now we’re saying, ‘look, here are the things that we’re doing. Here’s what we’re releasing right now. Here’s what’s next.’ Some of that was given in the roadmap from February. We’re getting pretty close to being done with all the things I said we were going to do, and now going into the territory of the things that I said were on the horizon.

    It's a bit weird saying that mounts were in boxed products, given how we got Roller beetle and Skyscale, but he was probably talking about elite specs there. So.... not ruled out, not talking about them yet.

  • Henry.5713Henry.5713 Member ✭✭✭✭

    I'd say it's a rather unlikely prospect for 2020 but even more unlikely things have happened before.

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  • Makuragee.3058Makuragee.3058 Member ✭✭✭
    edited January 31, 2020

    @Zexanima.7851 said:

    @TheGrimm.5624 said:
    I have been running with the unfounded and over-optimistic speculation that we will. If we were to see them in this LS it would be earliest in EP3/4.

    Unfounded reasons:

    • They said expansion level content, and yes to me that new e-specs
    • We had a reveal of elite style icons that was data-mined
    • They are doing a large balance patch to tone everything we have now down, and they did similar balances before HoT & PoF elites
    • NPCs foreshadowing classes using different weapons

    I am not looking to raise anyone else's expectation, go with no and you will be happier.

    You've peaked my interest, what about these data-mined icons and NPC foreshadowing? :open_mouth:

    Jhavi is a necro in the vanilla game, but here she use a shield. For the icon Ive seen them on reddit and facebook a while ago. If you google them you may be able to find them.

    Edit: here the icon https://i.redd.it/35jv3b25q1j31.jpg

  • Sobx.1758Sobx.1758 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Amaranthe.3578 said:

    @Sobx.1758 said:
    Who are you even asking right now? Without any official information, asking this question is pointless, anyone can write anything and at this moment it will be as correct as it will be false. And we have no way of knowing which is which. Oof.

    Maybe someone knows something

    No, they don't.

  • KeoLegend.5132KeoLegend.5132 Member ✭✭✭

    i hope we dont get any
    im sick of it. Should balance what we have instead

  • Sobx.1758Sobx.1758 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited January 31, 2020

    @TheGrimm.5624 said:
    If we were to see them in this LS it would be earliest in EP3/4.

    That's pretty obvious seeing as we already saw episodes 1 and 2, how is this a prediction at all -all you said was "if there will be something new, it won't be released in the past". :D

    • They are doing a large balance patch to tone everything we have now down, and they did similar balances before HoT & PoF elites

    Which patches were that? I don't recall balance runs of this scope.

  • Linken.6345Linken.6345 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Makuragee.3058 said:

    @Zexanima.7851 said:

    @TheGrimm.5624 said:
    I have been running with the unfounded and over-optimistic speculation that we will. If we were to see them in this LS it would be earliest in EP3/4.

    Unfounded reasons:

    • They said expansion level content, and yes to me that new e-specs
    • We had a reveal of elite style icons that was data-mined
    • They are doing a large balance patch to tone everything we have now down, and they did similar balances before HoT & PoF elites
    • NPCs foreshadowing classes using different weapons

    I am not looking to raise anyone else's expectation, go with no and you will be happier.

    You've peaked my interest, what about these data-mined icons and NPC foreshadowing? :open_mouth:

    Jhavi is a necro in the vanilla game, but here she use a shield. For the icon Ive seen them on reddit and facebook a while ago. If you google them you may be able to find them.

    Edit: here the icon https://i.redd.it/35jv3b25q1j31.jpg

    And rytlock had off hand pistol as warrior since release, then class changed to revenant.
    Warrior still dont have off hand pistol and we cant class change so npcs can do what ever the devs want.

  • Zok.4956Zok.4956 Member ✭✭✭

    @Danikat.8537 said:

    @Randulf.7614 said:
    In all serious, it is difficult to tell. Releasing them in stages cant work, so we have to get them in one lump. We have a 900 skill balance patch coming in the next couple of months - that could help pave the way for new elites. Or it could signal elites are done and they are focused on sorting what exists out going forward.

    I hadn't thought of it before but you have a point, new elites on top of a massive balance patch could be pretty overwhelming, and it's likely there will be more balance patches/bug fixes following the main patch so everything would keep changing, which is not a great time to try to learn new specs and figure out new builds. So it would make sense to seperate the two.

    I hope we do get new elites at some point, but if we do I suspect it'll be closer to the end of the season than the beginning.

    Wasn't there balance patches prior HoT and/or PoF as a preparation (which they did not tell us at the time of the balance patches) for the coming elite-specializations?

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  • Danikat.8537Danikat.8537 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Zok.4956 said:

    @Danikat.8537 said:

    @Randulf.7614 said:
    In all serious, it is difficult to tell. Releasing them in stages cant work, so we have to get them in one lump. We have a 900 skill balance patch coming in the next couple of months - that could help pave the way for new elites. Or it could signal elites are done and they are focused on sorting what exists out going forward.

    I hadn't thought of it before but you have a point, new elites on top of a massive balance patch could be pretty overwhelming, and it's likely there will be more balance patches/bug fixes following the main patch so everything would keep changing, which is not a great time to try to learn new specs and figure out new builds. So it would make sense to seperate the two.

    I hope we do get new elites at some point, but if we do I suspect it'll be closer to the end of the season than the beginning.

    Wasn't there balance patches prior HoT and/or PoF as a preparation (which they did not tell us at the time of the balance patches) for the coming elite-specializations?

    They re-worked the old trait lines system into specialisations ahead of adding elite specs, but that was in June 2015, 4 months before HoT was released. They did minor balance passes and bug fixes in between but no major balance patches.

    It's pure speculation at this point but it's possible they're doing something similar now. Even if not I think it would make sense to space the two out by holding off on releasing any new elite specs until players have had time to adjust to the balance changes.

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  • Fueki.4753Fueki.4753 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Randulf.7614 said:
    I dont really believe Anet would stoop that low either.

    Just look at the extend of the template loadout monetization.
    I wouldn't be surprised of they sell us the especs at a rate of 2000 gems per spec.

  • Teratus.2859Teratus.2859 Member ✭✭✭✭

    The amount of time needed to create and balance 9 new elite specs is far too big for them to be released outside of an expansion.

    It's far too big a task to be done as living world.. and even if it was done and Anet decided to release another expansion in the future people would quickly start to ask questions like.. why should we have to pay for this expansion when all the features in it we've been getting for free over the last few years.

    The biggest problem with promiting messages like.. Expansion like content.
    Give people things for free and they will expect you to continue to do so.

  • Amaranthe.3578Amaranthe.3578 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Teratus.2859 said:
    The amount of time needed to create and balance 9 new elite specs is far too big for them to be released outside of an expansion.

    It's far too big a task to be done as living world.. and even if it was done and Anet decided to release another expansion in the future people would quickly start to ask questions like.. why should we have to pay for this expansion when all the features in it we've been getting for free over the last few years.

    The biggest problem with promiting messages like.. Expansion like content.
    Give people things for free and they will expect you to continue to do so.

    I wouldn't mind paying for the e-specs separately if the LW gives expac-level maps and features.