Guardian Hammer is useless

There is no game mode that I use hammer on my guardian because there seems to be no use for it.It doesn't feel rewarding to play.I would hope they could address it one day.

What are your thoughts?

I forgot Guardians can equip Hammers.I've never used on my guard, but I can see why.

Hammer:

It is a bad damage weapon.It is a bad CC weapon (both axe and LB are much better).It limited mobility.It has no effective sustain, defense or avoidance.

Guardian's hammer is obsolete, and one of the worst weapons in the game

Haha it will be more useles cause they nerfing autoattack by 30% and increase mighty blow from 4 to 10 sec hahaha...balance patch will destroy guardian.

Its really not that bad in competitive modes. remember Core Guardian can't use Axe, LB, etc. And hammer is one of the few weapons which has a pretty good chance at winning a fight in just one hit, depending on terrain. :p

It might be the most useless weapon in the game right now...is there any other that's more useless than guardian hammer? Absolutely ZERO use anywhere...I miss using hammer on my guardian. :( Is any ANet member reading all this and thinking about doing anything about it or just helping us all and remove the weapon from our arsenal?

I really hope guardian hammer one day gets the same treatment warrior rifle is getting with the next balance patch.

It's fun if you play guardian hammer at 80lvl while doing core story and exploring Central Tyria (I belive that every weapon it's good for leveling), but on 80lvl maps and end-game content it's just the worst weapon ever. Too slow. I hope some day hammer will get a rework and become a viable weapon to deal damage. Mace is much better as support and defensive weapon + you can wield additional shield, focus or torch.

I have not played since christmas but heres my gameplay with hammer. Try it in wvw

Its awesome for asura ball. Go guildhall with your friends, some go green, some go red team someone on asura goes invincible team.

Build 2 goals, happy gaming bois

What a terrible weapon.

@"Hannelore.8153" said:What a terrible weapon.

PvE number.

@Lan Deathrider.5910 said:

@"Hannelore.8153" said:What a terrible weapon.

Were you asking what PvE numbers are like or implying that those PvE numbers? Because if it is the latter those damage numbers were refering to a Champion Tower Lord so as far as I can tell that has to be WvW

@RUNICBLACK.7630 said:

@Lan Deathrider.5910 said:

@"Hannelore.8153" said:What a terrible weapon.

Fighting a Champion Mob in WvW may as well be a PvE number. Show me a 20k mighty blow on a player.

You can play core guardian with hammer in pvp and wvw. Core guard build recommendation is gs but hammer together with glacial heart is also very good. The mighty blow spike is instant unlike whirling wrath on gs so if you wanna give it a try i think it's pretty good. If not pvp then maybe make a build around high power low precision high vit and toughness in wvw and go roam. I really wouldnt call it useless tho.

@"Hannelore.8153" said:What a terrible weapon.

Pretty low dmg considering it's on a NPC and it's the only burst on the weapon and hammer provides no sustain, mobility etc in it's skills, it's slow, clunky and MB has a huge tell, good luck landing on a player outside of a precast and JI combo.

@TinkTinkPOOF.9201 said:

@"Hannelore.8153" said:What a terrible weapon.

Not to mention, same setup with GS 2 would deal double that damage in the same cast time.

Hammer is fun, use it anyways.

But what if you warded people into your traps?

@FrownyClown.8402 said:But what if you warded people into your traps?

Then pray you ran a Charrdian and perform a Haka from outside the ward as they die.

@"FrownyClown.8402" said:But what if you warded people into your traps?

You would be better served by sword/shield for instant knock back, banish has a 1 sec cast time and a 15sec CD with a huge tell and short range, the only thing it has, which is good for trolling only really is that banish works on downed players and punting them off a cliff in downstate can be fun.

Then use for second weapon you say? Still a no, as LB is the choice, 1/4sec cast time and 10sec CD on deflecting shot and it's also a 1,200 range skill and is also unblockable.

If you are talking about ring of warding to hold them into a trap, well, a single stack of stab or a port will get them out, and outside of test of faith, the other traps are pretty poor performers, so you would be using a sub par weapon to "try" and make use of sub par traps. It also has a 3/4sec cast time, huge tell, you are rooted for the whole cast, so actually trapping people is very hard again outside of precast and JI, and it also has a long 30sec CD.

@otto.5684 said:

@TinkTinkPOOF.9201 said:

@"Hannelore.8153" said:What a terrible weapon.

And willing to bet being dmg on a Lord NPC, he was probably fully buffed with 25 stacks of might and lord probably had every debuff on it as well, making the numbers even less impressive.

Hammer has ceased to be useful for awhile.

The only builds that still use it are Core Guards trying to burst with it using a nerfed version of Radiant Hammer, or cheese DH builds which use Warding to lock people into their traps, but even then, any stability + evade can escape the Ward.

Hammer is now probably the worst pvp/wvw weapon.

@Gwaihir.1745 said:Hammer is now probably the worst pvp/wvw weapon.

Yeah, it’s definitely lackluster. I mean, the only redeeming factor was its mighty/glacial blow being a high damage AoE with a low cooldown, but now that cooldown got bumped up... so even if you do get close, one dodge is all it takes for you to be a sitting duck for 10 seconds, unless you switch weapons. But in that case, aren’t you better off using any other weapon?

PvP? I agree completely. PvE? Wholeheartedly disagree. I run a mantra firebrand with a hammer for PvE and the sustained damage with the right traits, survivability, and ability to decimate a cc bar are all top notch. But again, PvE only.