EtherProdigy.5726 Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 It'd solve a lot of toxicity in the game since it can be months before some one is banned for their behavior or chat, and even then certain people are exempt from it all together it seems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alatar.7364 Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 That would cause such a glorious chain reaction that no PvP Match would ever pop up since Matchmaker would just go ahead and shoot itself in the mouth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tharan.9085 Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 There is a reason why no game uses a matchmaker like that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EtherProdigy.5726 Posted February 20, 2020 Author Share Posted February 20, 2020 @Tharan.9085 said:There is a reason why no game uses a matchmaker like thatand what would that reason be?as far as i can see, theres no negatives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EtherProdigy.5726 Posted February 20, 2020 Author Share Posted February 20, 2020 @Alatar.7364 said:That would cause such a glorious chain reaction that no PvP Match would ever pop up since Matchmaker would just go ahead and shoot itself in the mouth.it would only never pop for people who block every person, im not seeing a downside Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sindrener.1592 Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 ok give this a moment to sink in, what if i block every player that are worse than me so they can't be in my team. do you think this sounds like a great idea still? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
felix.2386 Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 @bluri.2653 said:ok give this a moment to sink in, what if i block every player that are worse than me so they can't be in my team. do you think this sounds like a great idea still?yes, i love this idea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EtherProdigy.5726 Posted February 20, 2020 Author Share Posted February 20, 2020 @bluri.2653 said:ok give this a moment to sink in, what if i block every player that are worse than me so they can't be in my team. do you think this sounds like a great idea still?yes, i dont think any one genuinely enjoys playing with people in gold or below when they are in plat or above (unless you actually do enjoy completely lopsided matches and not competitive ones). i'm not sure why all of a sudden the opposite would be true, how many countless times have we heard about how bad it is?the trade off would be long queue times for people who do this, as there would be a very small pool of players for this person to be grouped with and theyd have to all be online at the same time. again, im not seeing a downside, are you sure you thought that through before you posted? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EtherProdigy.5726 Posted February 20, 2020 Author Share Posted February 20, 2020 @Alatar.7364 said:That would cause such a glorious chain reaction that no PvP Match would ever pop up since Matchmaker would just go ahead and shoot itself in the mouth.not sure what you mean, blocking a few notoriously toxic players wouldnt affect the matchmaker in any visible way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sindrener.1592 Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 @EtherProdigy.5726 said:@bluri.2653 said:ok give this a moment to sink in, what if i block every player that are worse than me so they can't be in my team. do you think this sounds like a great idea still?yes, i dont think any one genuinely enjoys playing with people in gold or below when they are in plat or above (unless you actually do enjoy completely lopsided matches and not competitive ones). i'm not sure why all of a sudden the opposite would be true, how many countless times have we heard about how bad it is?the trade off would be long queue times for people who do this, as there would be a very small pool of players for this person to be grouped with and theyd have to all be online at the same time. again, im not seeing a downside, are you sure you thought that through before you posted?ah yes ill block everyone under legend, ill never get a qpop. cu! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khalisto.5780 Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 this would be the block wars, instead of blocking ppl there are worse than me Id block all the ppl there are better than me, in fact i wouldn't block only the worst players cuy i know i could carry everygame and rise to the top of leaderboards. Now imagine all those silver blocking me cuz i broke their game. In a universe of a 2k players ppl would be stuck in q forever in no time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tycura.1982 Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 Oh no I blocked anyone who mains my counters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tharan.9085 Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 @EtherProdigy.5726 said:@Tharan.9085 said:There is a reason why no game uses a matchmaker like thatand what would that reason be?as far as i can see, theres no negatives.Well yes, bc you dont think far enough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EtherProdigy.5726 Posted February 20, 2020 Author Share Posted February 20, 2020 @bluri.2653 said:@EtherProdigy.5726 said:@bluri.2653 said:ok give this a moment to sink in, what if i block every player that are worse than me so they can't be in my team. do you think this sounds like a great idea still?yes, i dont think any one genuinely enjoys playing with people in gold or below when they are in plat or above (unless you actually do enjoy completely lopsided matches and not competitive ones). i'm not sure why all of a sudden the opposite would be true, how many countless times have we heard about how bad it is?the trade off would be long queue times for people who do this, as there would be a very small pool of players for this person to be grouped with and theyd have to all be online at the same time. again, im not seeing a downside, are you sure you thought that through before you posted?ah yes ill block everyone under legend, ill never get a qpop. cu!whats wrong with that? uve effectively eliminated urself, at no cost to any one else, because of arguably toxic behavior. its a win/win.you OPT IN for something like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EtherProdigy.5726 Posted February 20, 2020 Author Share Posted February 20, 2020 @Khalisto.5780 said:this would be the block wars, instead of blocking ppl there are worse than me Id block all the ppl there are better than me, in fact i wouldn't block only the worst players cuy i know i could carry everygame and rise to the top of leaderboards. Now imagine all those silver blocking me cuz i broke their game. In a universe of a 2k players ppl would be stuck in q forever in no timeif you block people better than you, then you would only go against them, or did you not read the title of the thread?if people OPT IN for longer queue times for themselves, whats the problem? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EtherProdigy.5726 Posted February 20, 2020 Author Share Posted February 20, 2020 @Tycura.1982 said:Oh no I blocked anyone who mains my countersand you would never get them ON YOUR TEAM, you would be forcing yourself to play against them, if that's your choice so be it.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EtherProdigy.5726 Posted February 20, 2020 Author Share Posted February 20, 2020 @Tharan.9085 said:@EtherProdigy.5726 said:@Tharan.9085 said:There is a reason why no game uses a matchmaker like thatand what would that reason be?as far as i can see, theres no negatives.Well yes, bc you dont think far enoughstill waiting to hear the reason.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tharan.9085 Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 @EtherProdigy.5726 said:@Tharan.9085 said:@EtherProdigy.5726 said:@Tharan.9085 said:There is a reason why no game uses a matchmaker like thatand what would that reason be?as far as i can see, theres no negatives.Well yes, bc you dont think far enoughstill waiting to hear the reason....It's way to easy to exploit (players banning Bad players permanently from their ranked qs) and would lead to endless q times. Compared to what? Your ego beeing hurt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EtherProdigy.5726 Posted February 20, 2020 Author Share Posted February 20, 2020 @Tharan.9085 said:@EtherProdigy.5726 said:@Tharan.9085 said:@EtherProdigy.5726 said:@Tharan.9085 said:There is a reason why no game uses a matchmaker like thatand what would that reason be?as far as i can see, theres no negatives.Well yes, bc you dont think far enoughstill waiting to hear the reason....It's way to easy to exploit (players banning Bad players permanently from their ranked qs) and would lead to endless q times. Compared to what? Your ego beeing hurt?whats the exploit? potentially, waiting longer for a game without some one who has a personal vendetta against you who is going to throw your game just because you are in it? doesnt seem like much of an exploit. identifying wintrade/throw accounts and removing them from the pool of players you can be grouped with? doesnt seem like an exploit to me.why does it sound like you think playing with bad players or players entire divisions below you is SUPPOSED to be the way the game works, especially at higher tiers? its not. take a look at any other game and check the ratings/divisions of the players. not playing with bad or toxic players, doesnt seem like a negative thing in my opinion, ESPECIALLY because the more people i blocked the longer my queue time would get as my own decision, long queue times would be self inflicted, i AGAIN dont see the problem. it is a choice a person could make for themself or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raizel.1839 Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 @EtherProdigy.5726 said:@Tharan.9085 said:@EtherProdigy.5726 said:@Tharan.9085 said:There is a reason why no game uses a matchmaker like thatand what would that reason be?as far as i can see, theres no negatives.Well yes, bc you dont think far enoughstill waiting to hear the reason....What if you block people not because they're toxic but just because they're bad players?They wouldn't be on your team anymore but you could have them as enemy team, giving you (and your team of "pros") an unfair advantage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EtherProdigy.5726 Posted February 20, 2020 Author Share Posted February 20, 2020 @Raizel.1839 said:@EtherProdigy.5726 said:@Tharan.9085 said:@EtherProdigy.5726 said:@Tharan.9085 said:There is a reason why no game uses a matchmaker like thatand what would that reason be?as far as i can see, theres no negatives.Well yes, bc you dont think far enoughstill waiting to hear the reason....What if you block people not because they're toxic but just because they're bad players?They wouldn't be on your team anymore but you could have them as enemy team, giving you (and your team of "pros") an unfair advantage. i dont see a problem with that. if thats actually an issue, then the matchmaker should be addressed and bad players SHOULD NOT be put in games with good ones.block enough "bad players" and now u get to wait through long queues, the trade off is there, i dont see a problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phokus.8934 Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 This is one of those ideas that’s not even thought out. If you can’t honestly see how you can manipulate your matches then I don’t know what to tell you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EtherProdigy.5726 Posted February 20, 2020 Author Share Posted February 20, 2020 @phokus.8934 said:This is one of those ideas that’s not even thought out. If you can’t honestly see how you can manipulate your matches then I don’t know what to tell you.then explain it to me instead of just complaining about it.matches are already completely manipulated, you can queue into any one u want at any time, ranked begins at lvl20, syncqing into ur buddies who are duo'd already exists and is done regularly on stream. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zenix.6198 Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 @EtherProdigy.5726 said:@"Tharan.9085" said:There is a reason why no game uses a matchmaker like thatand what would that reason be?as far as i can see, theres no negatives.well....a) This would be an incredibly comfortable tool for wintradesb) Any one player being able to manipulate the Matchmaker is a bad idea, thatc) could lead to complex chain-reactions since its NOT an exclusive right to just one player.Lets Just imagine for a second that we establish a culture, where every Legend + Plat player on one region decides to block the r1 player on the leaderboards.The R1 player, doesnt even necessarily have to be an unpleasant person (but his is the internet and everybody is salty literally all the time and no-one can have their ego bruised). So the rank 1 player gets punished cause they essentially will never have any good players in their team. Not because the r1 player blocked them, but because everybody else blocked the rank 1 player.....you know....for memes and luls. Also it's NOT just the blocklist of 1 player that has to be considered when the matchmaker forms teams. Obviously this "feature" cant be exclusive to just a select few players. If 1 player has somebody on their blocklist but the other 3 members of their to-be team don't, is it really fair to not include the blocked person in question in the Pool? Like personally I have about ~30 people on my blocklist....and thats not a lot.But if you think of the 5-man-dynamics of such a system....a HUGE number of possible team-building-scenarios for the Matchmaker just dont exist. tl;dr : not only is such a system abuseable but also would it inhibit the matchmaker from actually making fair games.And as much as it hurts me to say: Your personal feelings should not negatively affect the Matchmaker from making good (or as good as possible) games.Imagine that in 2020. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sindrener.1592 Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 Im gonna block everyone in this game so ill never get qpop 4Head Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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