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Rearrange Domination traits to fit thematically

Quadox.7834Quadox.7834 Member ✭✭✭✭
edited March 6, 2020 in Mesmer

Currently we have this layout:

Bountiful Blades.................Shattered Concentration.........Vicious Expression
Empowered Illusions..........Egotism...................................Mental Anguish
Rending Shatter.................Furious Interruption.................Power Block

This layout forces you to choose between traits that synergize and is sort of "all over the place". Compare to a traitline like Chronomancer, where the top row is for slow and disable, middle row is for shatters and bottom row is for phantasms and support. Would it thus not make more sense to rearrange Domination to something like this:

Rending Shatter.................Shattered Concentration.........Mental Anguish
Empowered Illusions..........Egotism...................................Bountiful Blades
Vicious Expression.............Furious Interruption.................Power Block

All we have done is switch positions of bountiful blades and vicious expression, then aligning the traits in the row that makes thematic sense. The top row is for shatters, the middle row is for phantasms, and the bottom row is related to CC.

EDIT alternative to allow PvErs to still run Vicious Expression and Empowered Illusions together:

Rending Shatter.................Shattered Concentration.........Mental Anguish
Empowered Illusions..........Egotism...................................Bountiful Blades
Power Block.......................Furious Interruption.................Vicious Expression

// Yanim

Comments

  • Tayga.3192Tayga.3192 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Empowered Illusions and Vicious Expression on same tier = PvE Mesmer is even more dead

  • Lincolnbeard.1735Lincolnbeard.1735 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Bountiful Blades is pretty trash for a GM.
    But your traitlist makes a lot more sense.

    The degenerate

  • Quadox.7834Quadox.7834 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Lincolnbeard.1735 said:
    Bountiful Blades is pretty trash for a GM.
    But your traitlist makes a lot more sense.

    Yeah but mostly because berserker in general is pretty bad (traiter zerker does less dmg than untraited pistol phantasm), and because mirror blade is bugged so it does no dmg.

    // Yanim

  • Quadox.7834Quadox.7834 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Tayga.3192 said:
    Empowered Illusions and Vicious Expression on same tier = PvE Mesmer is even more dead

    Go for mental anguish, not that bad right? Vicious expression has only existed for 1 week after all.

    // Yanim

  • NICENIKESHOE.7128NICENIKESHOE.7128 Member ✭✭✭
    edited March 6, 2020

    @Quadox.7834 said:

    @Tayga.3192 said:
    Empowered Illusions and Vicious Expression on same tier = PvE Mesmer is even more dead

    Go for mental anguish, not that bad right? Vicious expression has only existed for 1 week after all.

    PvE rely more on persistent dps modifier in Vicious expression rather than consumable bursts that mental anguish targets. Fortunately despite the nerf we had on GS trait we have this new trait to boost dps and compete with all other 38k+ dps in other classes from 25/2/20 patch (even post nerf).

    That's not to say you can't satisfy both scenarios though, simply arrange like this and you have a rearranged theme that still have good dps and PvP presence, while fitting its position:
    Furious Interruption........Power Block.........Vicious Expression

    Furious interruption is clearly just adept tier at this stage in game with the power creeps, as you require interrupt and you only generate enough quickness for the ICD.
    Power block with its non-crit damage on interrupt now probably more fitting on master trait, though some can still argue its overloaded with the weakness/CD increase.
    Vicious expression is much more likely to be a GM trait than power block since it removes boon on any CC, not just interrupt.

    [RED] Crimson Sunspears...your small family guild since 2015.

  • Quadox.7834Quadox.7834 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited March 6, 2020

    @NICENIKESHOE.7128 said:

    @Quadox.7834 said:

    @Tayga.3192 said:
    Empowered Illusions and Vicious Expression on same tier = PvE Mesmer is even more dead

    Go for mental anguish, not that bad right? Vicious expression has only existed for 1 week after all.

    PvE rely more on persistent dps modifier in Vicious expression rather than consumable bursts that mental anguish targets. Fortunately despite the nerf we had on GS trait we have this new trait to boost dps and compete with all other 38k+ dps in other classes from 25/2/20 patch (even post nerf).

    That's not to say you can't satisfy both scenarios though, simply arrange like this and you have a rearranged theme that still have good dps and PvP presence, while fitting its position:
    Furious Interruption........Power Block.........Vicious Expression

    Furious interruption is clearly just adept tier at this stage in game with the power creeps, as you require interrupt and you only generate enough quickness for the ICD.
    Power block with its non-crit damage on interrupt now probably more fitting on master trait, though some can still argue its overloaded with the weakness/CD increase.
    Vicious expression is much more likely to be a GM trait than power block since it removes boon on any CC, not just interrupt.

    Fair enough. Though I personally hope they wouldn't do that because then power block and shattered concentration will compete which sucks for pvp.
    Maybe Power Block.........Furious Interruption........Vicious Expression otherwise.

    // Yanim