Tom Hsiao.9705 Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 When can elementalist have permanent pets/summons???It’s been years and I’m still hoping they give elementalist the permanent summon...I think the summon shouldn’t expire after a period of time..it should have an option to either tape the summon button again to explode with some effect base on which type of element it is and if it’s not unsummon it will last until it dies!!It would make staff ele much easier to play on PVE.. it is so lame playing staff elementalist on the open world when most skills take forever to cast and while I’m channeling meteor shower and get beat up or cc by mobs...I’m praying the new elementalist class is some summoning class if they don’t make the elemental glyph summon permanent...,And I know there are a lot of people pwning with their S/D build but I just can’t do it with that 130 range.. I love the elemental animations and range on staff but please give me a tank that will distract mobs while I blow stuff up!!! 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephrye.1628 Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 Worse yet they are always unsummoned when mounting, why is that still a thing 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROMANG.1903 Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 The elementalist gets a few things that others classes have, but poorly designed in comparison:Permanent necro pets? You get a time-limitted mob and you still need to spam the button afterwards if you want maximum efficiency.Engineer kits? There you go time-limitted summoned weapons with a clunky pick-up mechanic.Useful elite skills? Here take specifically the two utility types that are poorly designed, and add a boring tornado for good measure (but make it only good underwater!). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nath Forge Tempete.1645 Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 @ROMANG.1903 said:The elementalist gets a few things that others classes have, but poorly designed in comparison:Permanent necro pets? You get a time-limitted mob and you still need to spam the button afterwards if you want maximum efficiency.Engineer kits? There you go time-limitted summoned weapons with a clunky pick-up mechanic.Useful elite skills? Here take specifically the two utility types that are poorly designed, and add a boring tornado for good measure (but make it only good underwater!).the elemental used to be totally free AI. They add the active skill later and to be honest I like it more that way !but +1 for everything else! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROMANG.1903 Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 @Nath Forge Tempete.1645 said:@ROMANG.1903 said:The elementalist gets a few things that others classes have, but poorly designed in comparison:Permanent necro pets? You get a time-limitted mob and you still need to spam the button afterwards if you want maximum efficiency.Engineer kits? There you go time-limitted summoned weapons with a clunky pick-up mechanic.Useful elite skills? Here take specifically the two utility types that are poorly designed, and add a boring tornado for good measure (but make it only good underwater!).the elemental used to be totally free AI. They add the active skill later and to be honest I like it more that way !but +1 for everything else!How do you like it more that way? It's just an ability you have to spam in order to get maximum efficiency, there is literally no gameplay to it. I'd rather have this sort of things being taken care of by the AI, I'd like to at least have the choice to do it. It would be interesting if you had to chose the right moment to use it or if the elemental's ability had several charges, but it's simply not the case.Take the necro for example: Their summon's active abilities are all utility skills to time properly, or with long cooldowns. In the case of the Fire elemental, you have a damage ability that you need to press every 5 seconds with no situation awareness.I would be totally cool though with a detonation ability though, that would make an interesting mechanic: Have a powerful ability in exchange for puttin the elemental on cooldown. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyPuppy.8970 Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 They'd be somewhat useful if they granted some boons periodically, like every 10s for the caster and allies within 300 radius.Lesser fire: mightLesser ice: regenLesser air: swiftnessLesser earth: protFire elemental: AlacrityIce: ResistanceAir: QuicknessEarth: Stability.Maybe they'd be worth slotting then. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teratus.2859 Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 I'm all for removing the durations and giving Ele a summoner playstyle.I've actually wanted this for years and there's plenty of ways they can make it unique enough from Minions.Elementals could change forms and functionality when the elementalist changes element changes for example.Elementals could be defined by the players stat choices rather than predefined like Minions which would force Ele's to play more to their roles.Fire elemental powers up with power, Earth elemental powers up with toughness, Air elemental with precison and Ice elemental with Healing power or vitality.Just a few examples. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamble.4580 Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 The ele summon elite does great healing and a nice condi cleanse in spvp but aoe sends it home so ele Summons are just trash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magus.1923 Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 We are in 2022 and nothing about perma pets. Anet need make a rework on elementalist Catalyst is really meh. 3 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popel.1468 Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 And that's good. Btw GJ with golden shovel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyraios.8954 Posted June 4, 2022 Share Posted June 4, 2022 They dont care about elementalist. This is just further proven when they were announcing catalyst elite spec and said "we have no idea why we gave ele hammer". Then staff gets nerfed instead of reworked.. and now we're forced to go melee for all game modes. 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soulknight.9620 Posted June 4, 2022 Share Posted June 4, 2022 5 hours ago, Kyraios.8954 said: Then staff gets nerfed instead of reworked.. and now we're forced to go melee for all game modes. "We have heard you loud and clear and agree that staff is underperforming. That is why we decided to buff shatterstone to bring staff on par with other weapons." 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyraios.8954 Posted June 4, 2022 Share Posted June 4, 2022 6 hours ago, soulknight.9620 said: "We have heard you loud and clear and agree that staff is underperforming. That is why we decided to buff shatterstone to bring staff on par with other weapons." Isnt shatterstone a scepter skill?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soulknight.9620 Posted June 4, 2022 Share Posted June 4, 2022 20 minutes ago, Kyraios.8954 said: Isnt shatterstone a scepter skill?? Anet dev team: "A what skill? Hey Brian, do we have a scepter on elementalist?" (tbh that was the joke, buff shatterstone on scepter to make staff "better") 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magus.1923 Posted June 6, 2022 Share Posted June 6, 2022 (edited) Ele is the class that need to use more buttons than other class to do the same thing with less power and less efficiency. Edited June 6, 2022 by Magus.1923 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poelala.2830 Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 17 hours ago, Magus.1923 said: Ele is the class that need to use more buttons than other class to do the same thing with less power and less efficiency. Not necessarily. Cata one shots with 3 buttons in 3 ways meanwhile it takes ranger 9. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ghost.3087 Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 I have to say that I totally support OP on this one and also the posts where it mentions that Elementalist summons disappears when mounted. Absolute BS if you ask me. They should be either permanent summon that is tapped at 3. I do get the idea behind the larger Elemental Summon because it is like an Ultimate skill but lesser elementals should be permanent, they are in many other games where Elementals can summon elements. And for god sake, please change the design on the elementals disappearing when mounted. If you can do it for the glide you should do it for the mounts and the boat in the other two expansions. Especially in PVE. It is such an important QoL improvement that it should have been upgraded by now or fixed or w/e. 5 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soulknight.9620 Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 You do realise that Ulti would have to get nerfed if they made them permanent? Earth elemental can tank 80% of OW pve content (and i think water one can too). 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibson.4036 Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 4 hours ago, soulknight.9620 said: You do realise that Ulti would have to get nerfed if they made them permanent? Earth elemental can tank 80% of OW pve content (and i think water one can too). How does the cooldown change that, other than the annoyance of having to continually resummon it? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyraios.8954 Posted June 12, 2022 Share Posted June 12, 2022 On 6/9/2022 at 11:29 AM, The Ghost.3087 said: I have to say that I totally support OP on this one and also the posts where it mentions that Elementalist summons disappears when mounted. Absolute BS if you ask me. They should be either permanent summon that is tapped at 3. I do get the idea behind the larger Elemental Summon because it is like an Ultimate skill but lesser elementals should be permanent, they are in many other games where Elementals can summon elements. And for god sake, please change the design on the elementals disappearing when mounted. If you can do it for the glide you should do it for the mounts and the boat in the other two expansions. Especially in PVE. It is such an important QoL improvement that it should have been upgraded by now or fixed or w/e. This!!! 3 years later and we're still asking for the SAME THING! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibson.4036 Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 Also, why can mechs, minions, and pets work underwater, but not elementals? 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheQuickFox.3826 Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 (edited) I want to be able to summon a small army of fire imps shooting fire darts that cause burning. And be tanky so the DPS comes from the imps primarily and not from me. Edited June 15, 2022 by TheQuickFox.3826 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ghost.3087 Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 We seriously need you to fix the Elementalist class and their summons. It feels quite unfair compared to other summoners in the game and lacklustre especially with despawning the elementals when you go underwater, mount or boat away. This shouldn't be even considered normal. If other classes can use their summons and pets underwater then Elementalists should be able to do the same. The same goes for the rest. It is kinda tiring to summon them over and over again the elementals only for them to despawn when you mount or go underwater. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
armada.9013 Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 A lot of times the eemental skills just sits on my bar because I forget to summon before the fight and during the fight feels like a waste of time. I think lesser elementals should be a quicker cast and the elite elementals should be permenant (including on mount, map change, etc), it could be also auto cast ooc like the firebrand mantras. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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