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A scam is a scheme conducted by an entity to defraud another party for their own benefit. So, how is ANet NOT allowing you to give them money a scam? Furthermore, simply buying an item from the gem store does not make your account "buy to play," as that connotation was used in the original business model of the game, where players would pay once for the game, and be able to play the MMO indefinitely without a subscription.

Lastly, let me say this. The people you are taking your frustration out on are the same that have graciously answered your questions, and given you solid advice. They aren't customer service, retail technical support specialists, or even representatives of ArenaNet. Yes, you are clearly peeved by the fact that you aren't able to buy something from the gem store while it's on sale. However, neither is this the forum to voice such discontent, nor are these people the ones you should be spiting diatribes at.

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@"Ojimaru.8970" said:A scam is a scheme conducted by an entity to defraud another party for their own benefit. So, how is ANet NOT allowing you to give them money a scam? Furthermore, simply buying an item from the gem store does not make your account "buy to play," as that connotation was used in the original business model of the game, where players would pay once for the game, and be able to play the MMO indefinitely without a subscription.

Lastly, let me say this. The people you are taking your frustration out on are the same that have graciously answered your questions, and given you solid advice. They aren't customer service, retail technical support specialists, or even representatives of ArenaNet. Yes, you are clearly peeved by the fact that you aren't able to buy something from the gem store while it's on sale. However, neither is this the forum to voice such discontent, nor are these people the ones you should be spiting diatribes at.

Lets get something straight here, I am not taking anything out on anyone. Am I peeved by this, of course I am as anyone else would be in my situation and I know others are.

May I suggest you not dramatize anything here as I haven't been telling anyone off, picking on anyone that has posted constructively in this thread in any shape, form or fashion. The only people I have been telling or implying that I don't appreciate their posts is yours right here and the previous poster. I do so because you both have come here to nit pick my choice of words, which I still say are appropriate btw regardless of the mental gymnastic offered by both of you to the contrary, to talk not about the problem but rather myself as some self appointed moderators. Perhaps you both could follow your own "advice" and maybe while your at at stick to the forums rules as you both are the only ones that have been rude enough to try and talk "down" to me and discuss me instead of the subject.

Again may I suggest you practice what you have just preached and take your own diatribe, which is grossly off topic elsewhere. While you all have the right to your own opinion so do I. I do not go to other people threads simply to annoy them, or attempt to moderate them. If I differ in opinion I may voice it but I will always do so in a way that sticks to the subject in an analytical manner rather than discussing the poster of the subject like you both are doing here.

It's highly hypocritical to tell someone on these forums they are not allowed to voice something because you deem it discontent while clearly playing mod and voicing their own discontent at the subject or person that made to thread.

Also I appreciate everyone's post that posted constructively in this thread, which is everyone that posted before Illconceived Was Na.9781 and yourself.

Last but not least both of you should have took the time to properly read AND understand what I was saying before getting on your high horses and decided to play moderator and that chastising me was the proper course of action. The fact is I said it was, "kind of scammy" and "borderline scamming" which is not me saying Anet tried to scam people like you both are implying as the words "kind of" and "borderline" really change the context of the word which both of you decided to ignore in your quest to be offended and offensive.

I posted this thread to gather information which I did, to make people and maybe Anet themselves aware there is a potential issue and lastly to give an update as to what the response from support was that another player received as I know quite a few others have this problem. This way the information of why they cant buy the prep pack is here and available to everyone without them having to contact support as they are busy enough as it is.

There is also the small, small chance Anet will see this and make a change in the future so core players can indeed buy pack.... especially since all these item can be bought individually by core accounts, not sure about f2p one as I haven't checked that out yet.

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I would like to say that Illconceived Was Na.9781 has proven to be one of the most helpful and respectful people on this board and in the game in general. Does that mean that you two can't disagree, of course not. Just know that I believe that Mr. Ill has no ill intentions. I know this from the myriad of other posts I have read, penned by Mr. Ill. Remember that 93% of communication is non-verbal. When we text, we don't see body language (55%) or hear tone (38%). When the words alone make up only 7% of communication, is it any wonder people get misunderstood all the time in our current world of insta-text?

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@"Gorkus.7496" said:I don't understand why you just don't contact Anet directly and ask them. If you have already, then disregard this suggestion, obviously.

Hello Gorkus.

I explain the why of this thread in my previous post, last two paragraphs, but I can understand that people may not want to read the whole thing especially as it's in answer to Ojimaru.8970.

I initially made this thread because I didn't believe support would get back to me in time so figured I would ask here if any others were having this problem in case it was a bug on my end or something like that. Since then I have garnered more information from other sources so I decided to update this thread with the relevant information.

From my previous post,

"I posted this thread to gather information which I did, to make people and maybe Anet themselves aware there is a potential issue and lastly to give an update as to what the response from support was that another player received as I know quite a few others have this problem. This way the information of why they cant buy the prep pack is here and available to everyone without them having to contact support as they are busy enough as it is.

There is also the small, small chance Anet will see this and make a change in the future so core players can indeed buy pack.... especially since all these item can be bought individually by core accounts, not sure about f2p one as I haven't checked that out yet."

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@Calistin.6210 said:

@"Gorkus.7496" said:I don't understand why you just don't contact Anet directly and ask them. If you have already, then disregard this suggestion, obviously.

Hello Gorkus.

I explain the why of this thread in my previous post, last two paragraphs, but I can understand that people may not want to read the whole thing especially as it's in answer to Ojimaru.8970.

I initially made this thread because I didn't believe support would get back to me in time so figured I would ask here if any others were having this problem in case it was a bug on my end or something like that. Since then I have garnered more information from other sources so i decided to update this thread with the relevant information.

From my previous post,

_"I posted this thread to gather information which I did, to make people and maybe Anet themselves aware there is a potential issue and lastly to give an update as to what the response from support was that another player received as I know quite a few others have this problem. This way the information of why they cant buy the prep pack is here and available to everyone without them having to contact support as they are busy enough as it is.

There is also the small, small chance Anet will see this and make a change in the future so core players can indeed buy pack.... especially since all these item can be bought individually by core accounts, not sure about f2p one as I haven't checked that out yet."_

I apparently, accidentally, deleted the first ascended weapon I ever made. In a panic I asked Anet, and within 2 days, they had given back to me that which I had lost. They are more helpful than people know. The fact that Anet has staff dedicated to returning deleted equipment is amazing, truly. The number of times and labor hour cost to maintain that kind of support is amazing. I don't know for sure, but I bet if you contacted them and described the problem, they might offer you a satisfactory solution, even if the item in question is no longer available on the trading post. In the end, the game is nothing but a database. Adding or subtracting something isn't a big deal, it's just time-consuming for Anet. But like my Grammy told me, only the squeaky cog gets the grease.

Anyway, I wish you the best.

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@"Gorkus.7496" said:I would like to say that Illconceived Was Na.9781 has proven to be one of the most helpful and respectful people on this board and in the game in general. Does that mean that you two can't disagree, of course not. Just know that I believe that Mr. Ill has no ill intentions. I know this from the myriad of other posts I have read, penned by Mr. Ill. Remember that 93% of communication is non-verbal. When we text, we don't see body language (55%) or hear tone (38%). When the words alone make up only 7% of communication, is it any wonder people get misunderstood all the time in our current world of insta-text?

Yes I can agree in general to what you are saying here. I however do not have the hindsight or experience in these forums to "know" what kind of posters the people replying are, I do not know their posting history so I appreciate your input on this. TBH while I felt Illconceived Was Na.9781 post was not very constructive and more argumentative than anything else I took it in a more analytic "type" post and so responded in kind trying to further explain my meaning.

In that regard perhaps I should make clear I do not mean to lump in Illconceived Was Na.9781 with Ojimaru.8970 as that may not be too clear in my previous posts. I only felt his post brought nothing to the table or discussion really as I did not start this thread to debate the meanings of the words "kind of scammy or borderline scamming" etc.

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To get back on track.

Bought the unbreakable tools at 50% off then went to buy them for my better half and bam Unfortunately an error has occurred. Please try again later! so I guessed the game doesn't want married couples using the same payment source or something so she tried using her paypal but bam the same error again.

I did some searching and digging around and found a solution for those with this error that worked for my wife.

You need to go to c\user\"yourusername"\appdata\local\temp and do a search for gw2cache delete this file and voila gem store purchase worked.

The file you want to delete should look like this but may have different numbers after gw2cache.

gw2cache-{xxx9786F-27D6-xxxx-6C78-E9BAxxxxxxx23}

My wife was able to buy gems via paypal and get the unbreakable tool all without having to wait on support. This should really be something Anet has in tier support section so people can try this before contacting support.

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This is why I love ESO more than this game. You can deconstruct EVERYTHING for FREE AND you get lots of nice mats back if you put a few skill points (3) into the perks for it in crafting. And it levels you as a crafter so you never spend money learning to craft. And you get I think eight characters to start with. Can mail gold between accounts without limits (because they don't sell gold). Can make lots of gold without spending your life farming. Don't buy gold, easy enough to make it.....

While I do like this game... it's lacking in some of the most basic areas. This sort of silliness is one of them.

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Still no expansion sale... eh really need a good sale to be able to buy the expansions and living world seasons x3. Can wait on the seasons but the expansion simply have too much important stuff locked behind them to play as core or f2p long term. At this rate gw2 will turn into a log in, do dailies, log out game.

Guess will just have to hope the expansion themselves, not the upgrades, will come on sale with the announcement on the 30th...

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