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@Strider Pj.2193 said:

@Jayden Reese.9542 said:No way to justify this unless no link for them anymore like really anet is dumb af. It's almost like should we just transfer for ez mode and ruin the game or stick it out with your server.

Well, since mounts were added because Anet knows what they are doing and we should ‘just Adapt’ i Guess the same could be said for this change also..

Get over the mounts too dude except in mount threads.

I’ve been over it. ?

Maybe you need to stop blaming BG for everything wrong with the game?

People have obsessed over BG for 4 years...

Mounts have only been out for 4 months.

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I don't blame BG for anything. Very skilled group plays the mode correctly by keeping their 6 keeps/smc and almost never overextending to make them vulnerable. The problem was the links that should be locked from transfers cause that mass transfer stacks them/kills their prior link and who ever got stuck w them. But to open them is just encouraging I doubt hulky and his VR guys cuz they tried the BG link for a week but it didn't take but maybe some other 20 man guild to bandwagon. I do like mounts tho

Hunk came one week to get fights on a reset. From there VR left because, (I would imagine) they enjoyed wrecking the bully rather than running with the bully.

Yeah I remember. It's tempting even for me cuz being on BG is almost a perm 10 pips per 5 min vs getting stuck in the who the eff knows what server I'll be linked with farming 8 pips adding 3-4 hours per week to finish diamond but It's not as fun as you said being the bully for some as this link has been constant double team which is fun fighting that off then camp taking in BG watching the other 2 teams avoid us.

However, think about what you just said..,

If BG outnumbers it’s opponents so heavily, I would think the outnumbered pips would be such an advantage. If they aren’t able to get outnumbered pips, why are they unable to field the same numbers nor be able to ‘win’

It’s normal for BG players to get outnumbered pips on 1-2 maps in prime time every night other than reset.

The data doesn’t add up yet no one looks at it objectively.

But yeah.., the meme IS fun.

I have a bunch of easy Legendary Armor from having nonstop outmanned while playing BG. Use to take breaks when we went to T2 because at the time was only playing WvW for the pips and rarely got outmanned in T2.

Playing BG is great for pips. But for the game mode they are a disaster.

I’ve got two and a half sets from those same outnumbered pips in prime time.... on BG.

What’s your point?

Boy I sure do love getting on and seeing people from 3 different maps pinging Outnumbered in team chat during NA prime :cry:

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@Pagan Highlander.5948 said:Lets see, Option A, spend $20 to transfer and be stuck in mind numbing queues on BG all week, then following mindless map blobs on Bg or stuck on siege for hours and being bored senseless or option B: actually have fun and a challenge in WvW on any other server. Hmmm, I'll go with Option B

lol. So many people making ridiculous claims that have no idea what they are talking about. Where are you getting the data on these mind numbing queues? Did someone else that doesn't know what they are talking about tell you that?

Saying you don't think you'd have fun on BG is fair and reasonable, but pulling made up information out of the air is a bit silly. Last reset, we had a queue of 18 people on EBG and maybe 7 on Blue BL. Other 2 maps not queued. Are these the mind numbing queues you are referring to?

I am on BG and I am regularly getting outnumbered pips. I have not sat in a queue in ages. Please enlighten me on where you are getting your information.

edit: But please, by all means go with option B. You don't want to be on Blackgate and chances are we don't want you on BG.

For a server thats always been full and have been known to have epic queues for the last 6 years before the introduction of Warclaw, thats actually quite scary to hear.

I get what the other poster meant too... its better to fight the more populated server because it provides more chances at challenging fights and presents more fights overall.

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@style.6173 said:

@Sovereign.1093 said:i dont blame anyone going to bg. but i think those who whine and moan are envious. =p

Envious? No. I'm tired of seeing people tank to avoid T1. We need to more people playing WvW, not less.

unfortunately people will game the system to fit their needs. :/ it takes a strong will to push up a tier. and numbers

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@Strider Pj.2193 said:

@"Ultramex.1506" said:Never thought i'd see someone so proudly telling people to bandwagon on open forum, time is changing.

OP is not from BG.

But yeah..

And as a side note, people have been telling people to bandwagon fairly constantly.

Oh, they note ‘well we need to transfer to play with our friends’ or some variant.

To claim this is new is naive at best, disingenuous at worst.

Oh i knew people tells other to bandwagon but mostly on guild chat/team chat when that server perform poorly or inactive but on WvW forum? where players from every server can see??! That is just low. I might have joined the forum only for a few month but rarely( if none) do i see post saying "Lets all hop to this server" and it's Blackgate no less, so far i only see this and other post ( which is Henge of Denravi), well if you count WvW guild recruiting then it's another story.

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Because links only last for 2 months with the same servers, rarely it's the same servers on the next relink because of how much populations shift. Host servers have the most population hence why they're host, they offer stable places if you're looking to stay somewhere long term, some are usually in the same tiers which some people have a preference for, like BG is normally in t1, FA floats in T1/2, FC is now T1 stable, etc.

In this case BG has been getting links in which players have been transferring to, to stay with them, now instead of constantly transferring to their new links they can just join BG, even if it's 1800 gems they still wouldn't need to move for the next 6 months to make up for it, and they get to be on the last NA server that has good coverage, scouts, defense, and numbers which makes it easy for them to take and control stuff.

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@Gop.8713 said:I've never seen any need or benefit to transferring servers so this is a serious question for those more in the know: Why would anyone transfer to a host world if they can transfer to a link for less . . ?

Why get a cheap slum Blackgate link motel for 500 gems(2 month rental) when you can get a Blackgate penthouse ownership for 1800 gems?

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@hunkamania.7561 said:

@Gop.8713 said:I've never seen any need or benefit to transferring servers so this is a serious question for those more in the know: Why would anyone transfer to a host world if they can transfer to a link for less . . ?

Why get a cheap slum Blackgate link motel for 500 gems(2 month rental) when you can get a Blackgate penthouse ownership for 1800 gems?

So is ownership the goal? I was under the impression that ppl who transfer tend to transfer pretty regularly. I thought moving around was the point . . .

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@Ultramex.1506 said:Never thought i'd see someone so proudly telling people to bandwagon on open forum, time is changing.

OP is not from BG.

But yeah..

And as a side note, people have been telling people to bandwagon fairly constantly.

Oh, they note ‘well we need to transfer to play with our friends’ or some variant.

To claim this is new is naive at best, disingenuous at worst.

Oh i knew people tells other to bandwagon but mostly on guild chat/team chat when that server perform poorly or inactive but on WvW forum? where players from every server can see??! That is just low. I might have joined the forum only for a few month but rarely( if none) do i see post saying "Lets all hop to this server" and it's Blackgate no less, so far i only see this and other post ( which is Henge of Denravi), well if you count WvW guild recruiting then it's another story.

Did you miss the part where I said the OP isn’t from BG? And has no interest in being on BG?

I can only imagine he is laughing quite hard at the consternation that this thread is creating. ?

If you read back some, BG represents a lot of the opposite of what the OP looks for in a server... and in WvW.

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@Strider Pj.2193 said:

@Swamurabi.7890 said:Maybe Anet should change their world linking/locking metric from player-hours to one that also factors in tier and skirmish finishes.Test it out before Alliances.

To further incentivize tanking?

That hasn't stopped it being used, ahem, by BG it the past. Anyone remember Hybergate?

If you average it out over several matches that would reduce it's abuse.

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@Gop.8713 said:

@Gop.8713 said:I've never seen any need or benefit to transferring servers so this is a serious question for those more in the know: Why would anyone transfer to a host world if they can transfer to a link for less . . ?

Why get a cheap slum Blackgate link motel for 500 gems(2 month rental) when you can get a Blackgate penthouse ownership for 1800 gems?

So is ownership the goal? I was under the impression that ppl who transfer tend to transfer pretty regularly. I thought moving around was the point . . .

No, people don't want to move around, that costs real money.

With that said, some people did move around, such as myself to stay in T3 area, as fights and fight guilds were more common, and GvGs were a thing. But that was only a few people/guilds and that is dead now. Everyone else wanted to be on the top T1 server to be the one winning all the time, for that you don't need to field the biggest numbers, you just need coverage, as most servers outside of prime time are just plain dead, probably 20 people over all 4 maps and none of them organized. So when they log back in the next day, they see all their structures are now T3 by an enemy server because of night coverage.

Most people are fair weathers, they don't want hard fights, they want to be on the winning server, if that changes every few months, people will move around, if it stays the same what is there for them to move for? Move from a winning server with active players in almost all time zones, to a server that is losing and dead outside of prime time? Not many people are going to be going for that, and BG for some time has been that winning server with numbers and coverage. However the server has been closed for some time meaning people could not transfer, the only option was to fight them, or move to the server linked to them every time it changed. Which funny enough are the real bandwagon people, not BG, as actual BG plays would have been there for some time.

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I mean as a veteran WvW player, I feel like I am entitled to winning. Thus I deserve to be on Blackgate as losing is unfun.

It is going to be neat blobbing down 20 people with 70 all day, can't wait. I will be so much better player once I win more after this server transfer.

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@knite.1542 said:

@Pagan Highlander.5948 said:Lets see, Option A, spend $20 to transfer and be stuck in mind numbing queues on BG all week, then following mindless map blobs on Bg or stuck on siege for hours and being bored senseless or option B: actually have fun and a challenge in WvW on any other server. Hmmm, I'll go with Option B

lol. So many people making ridiculous claims that have no idea what they are talking about. Where are you getting the data on these mind numbing queues? Did someone else that doesn't know what they are talking about tell you that?

Saying you don't think you'd have fun on BG is fair and reasonable, but pulling made up information out of the air is a bit silly. Last reset, we had a queue of 18 people on EBG and maybe 7 on Blue BL. Other 2 maps not queued. Are these the mind numbing queues you are referring to?

I am on BG and I am regularly getting outnumbered pips. I have not sat in a queue in ages. Please enlighten me on where you are getting your information.

edit: But please, by all means go with option B. You don't want to be on Blackgate and chances are we don't want you on BG.

Lol I’ve been linked with BG and I’ve seen the queues, don’t lie dude.

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