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Are there things that felt disturbing/uncomfortable/disgusting in GW2?

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  • Ashen.2907Ashen.2907 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited August 19, 2019

    @Windu The Forbidden One.6045 said:

    @Ashen.2907 said:

    @Fenom.9457 said:

    @Ashen.2907 said:
    The instance where we took Caithe's place and committed her heinous crimes for her, absolving her of any guilt for her actions, taking on that burden ourselves. This was the moment where I stopped caring about the story, the characters, etc. I was so disgusted with the writing that GW2 stopped being an RPG for me and became just a combat simulator.

    You’re not taking on the blame for her - you just view the memories, she still did it all herself

    I am required to control her actions during this period.

    Because that's simply how quests like that work in many video games. WoW en ESO have plenty of flashback quests where you see past events through the eyes of another, and you also play through those past events yourself, because if your character was controlled by the game and all you had to do is watch it would be boring. Quests need to be played, not looked at.

    Just because you controlled Caithe during the flashback doesn't make it any less of a flashback and our characters certainly aren't guilty of her mistakes, because that would be utterly ridiculous.

    And as for needing to repair your armor, yet another case of "gameplay mechanics" / "lore" segration. Our characters always come back at a nearby waypoint after dying, that also does not mean we are immortal, it simply means we never died lorewise, despite the fact that gameplay wise we did die.

    I disagree.

    A true flashback sequence, where it is not my character, would not involve my character making the decisions regarding specific actions from moment to moment within the scene. it would be a cut-scene if my character was only observing.

    As to the armor repair, in game, in character, my armor was damaged. Something that could not happen if I was merely observing another's experiences.

    I do agree that it was utterly ridiculous for the writers to require our characters to commit, not observe, Caithe's horrific deeds.

    @Ignigknawt.7869 said:

    You are aware those instances were meant to be flashbacks, right? Just because the players took control of her doesn't mean she didn't do it, we were literally reliving her memories.

    We were in control. Not she.
    Game mechanics reinforce this fact.
    A flashback would be a cut-scene, not a requirement that we commit her deeds.

  • trixantea.1230trixantea.1230 Member ✭✭✭
    edited August 19, 2019

    Hmm.. I find the lines between Kaz and Marjory most disturbing and of course the Risen Thrall when it says: "Death, good!"

  • Zaklex.6308Zaklex.6308 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Vlad Morbius.1759 said:
    Looking for things or opinions that are uncomfortable is a dangerous game. People can be disgusted and uncomfortable in many ways, justified in one's mind or not, it is subjective and sometimes charged with dangerous intent. Being disgusted generally goes hand in hand with offended so your question / topic may just well be disgusting and uncomfortable, :)

    You're 100% wrong in your analysis, being disgusted, disturbed or uncomfortable does not generally go hand in hand with being offended in any way, shape or form unless you deem it so.
    Take me for example, nothing, and I mean nothing, offends me, but there are things that will disgust or disturb me...however, not a single thing in this game fits that description because it is a game, it's not real, it's entertainment only.

    Yes...no...maybe...what do you want, can't you see I'm busy saving the world...AGAIN!

  • Zaklex.6308Zaklex.6308 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Ignigknawt.7869 said:
    The renown heart in Wayfarer Foothills where you kill the mother dolyaks and and capture their babies.

    You do know you're supposed to capture them without killing the mothers don't you? Before you say it can't be done, let me assure you it most certainly can.

    Yes...no...maybe...what do you want, can't you see I'm busy saving the world...AGAIN!

  • Gop.8713Gop.8713 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Ignigknawt.7869 said:
    The renown heart in Wayfarer Foothills where you kill the mother dolyaks and and capture their babies.

    There was a player in one of the map completion threads who had multiple toons one heart short of map completion for this very reason :p

  • Vayne.8563Vayne.8563 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Ashen.2907 said:
    The instance where we took Caithe's place and committed her heinous crimes for her, absolving her of any guilt for her actions, taking on that burden ourselves. This was the moment where I stopped caring about the story, the characters, etc. I was so disgusted with the writing that GW2 stopped being an RPG for me and became just a combat simulator.

    Wait what? How did we absolve her of anything? What crimes are you talking about?

  • Vayne.8563Vayne.8563 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @sorudo.9054 said:
    the lack of quests, when playing this game for over 7 years and only having hearts i start longing for quests, even fetch quests are better than this boring chore.

    Hearts aren't the quests in this game, dynamic events are. There are plenty of escort and fetch dynamic events. Why concern yourself with the hearts if they're such a chore? Particularly because events can fill in most of them without you even trying to do them.

  • @Zaklex.6308 said:

    @Ignigknawt.7869 said:
    The renown heart in Wayfarer Foothills where you kill the mother dolyaks and and capture their babies.

    You do know you're supposed to capture them without killing the mothers don't you? Before you say it can't be done, let me assure you it most certainly can.

    You're still taking her babies though, that doesn't make it much better lol.

  • We were in control. Not she.
    Game mechanics reinforce this fact.
    A flashback would be a cut-scene, not a requirement that we commit her deeds.

    I disagree. We can in no way effect change in this scene. I tried making Caithe's friend do all the bad stuff, but the instance froze or stalled and would not proceed unless you took the matter to its historical conclusion. I played this scene multiple times and in the end Cathe got her hands dirty. So in the end it was a mere simulation and you could decide for yourself if her acts were pardonable based on putting yourself in her shoes. I didn't feel she was justified and will remain disgusted with her character. I can barely stand it when I have to hear her voice or see her face if further episodes.

  • Ototo.3214Ototo.3214 Member ✭✭✭
    edited August 20, 2019

    Aside from Joko's harem, to me the whole scarab plague experiment concept the Inquest were doing along with just...what the plague did. Really gets under your skin....:^)

    Oh yeah, and The Bastion of the Penitent raid wing.

  • Cynder.2509Cynder.2509 Member ✭✭✭

    The FX abomination this game has become with all its flashyness and legendary kitten
    It hurts my eyes and is one of the reasons (aside from nothing else to do even with raids completed every week) why I only play for like 20 minutes a day to do dailies. It has become so much worse after HoT released. Can't we just go back to vanilla?

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  • Vash.2386Vash.2386 Member ✭✭✭

    The only time I’ve felt uncomfortable is swimming underwater and getting trapped. But I just ended up waypointing out to get on dry land.

  • The meta event in Field of Ruins is sad making. You basically burn an orge village to the ground to draw out their old retired warrior and his pet then kill them and continue onward to wipe out their entire culture and probably their race.

  • Batel.9206Batel.9206 Member ✭✭✭

    @Batdogi.7142 said:
    The meta event in Field of Ruins is sad making. You basically burn an orge village to the ground to draw out their old retired warrior and his pet then kill them and continue onward to wipe out their entire culture and probably their race.

    To be fair, the ogres are, according to Legionnaire Riptooth, "using the cease-fire to take more land." In other words, once the charr and humans have stopped fighting, the ogres swept in to kill and plunder as much as they can, and they show no signs of stopping. Both sides are still reeling from the endless siege and are in no shape to hold off an ogre offensive for very long, especially Ebonhawke, as also confirmed by the other quest-giver for the meta event, Scout Leader Tahiri.
    It's not like the charr and humans go, "Oh hey, there's an ogre village there that's just peacefully existing, let's go wipe them out!" They have just cause to attack.

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  • @Ignigknawt.7869 said:

    @Zaklex.6308 said:

    @Ignigknawt.7869 said:
    The renown heart in Wayfarer Foothills where you kill the mother dolyaks and and capture their babies.

    You do know you're supposed to capture them without killing the mothers don't you? Before you say it can't be done, let me assure you it most certainly can.

    You're still taking her babies though, that doesn't make it much better lol.

    Agreed

    It is easier when you kill the mom, and there is absolutely no in-game penalty for killing the mom, so I don't know how it can be assumed that you are 'supposed' to do it without killing the mom. (Yeah, I usually try to anyway.)

  • Maybe this is just something that bugs me but, the nameless NPC Pact Soldiers in Dragonfall using Maguuma HoT dialogues if you talk to them multiple times. Still not trusting Sylvari...while facing an ED that just fell through the mists into the ocean. Yes of course the Sylvari are your main problem right now.... e.e
    This is just immersion breaking....an oversight and/or just lazy :(

  • Kasmeer makes me cringe. Just her whole character. Stereotypical ditzy blonde. Every time she hiccups when she's nervous, I want to slap her.

  • DietPepsi.4371DietPepsi.4371 Member ✭✭✭
    edited August 21, 2019

    I remember being quite creeped out by some of the Charr dialogue in the Black Citadel. There's a few NPCs hitting on eachother in rather questionable manners, and I believe even the suggestion of non-consensual ...stuff.

    I guess it's meant to enforce the idea that Charr Legion culture is somewhat barbaric.

    On a semi-related note, kudos to the writers for still trying to write a world that is somewhat dark while maintaining a T rating.

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  • Rauderi.8706Rauderi.8706 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Hashberry.4510 said:
    Only thing worse than comic book dialogue is PC comic book dialogue.

    Bar-RP gives me the shivers.

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  • @DietPepsi.4371 said:
    I remember being quite creeped out by some of the Charr dialogue in the Black Citadel. There's a few NPCs hitting on eachother in rather questionable manners, and I believe even the suggestion of non-consensual ...stuff.

    I guess it's meant to enforce the idea that Charr Legion culture is somewhat barbaric.

    On a semi-related note, kudos to the writers for still trying to write a world that is somewhat dark while maintaining a T rating.

    I mean charr don't traditionally mate for love or sex, they just kinda do what they need to do and move on, then leave their cubs in a fahrar.

  • The entire orrian sea.

    I'm not good with sharks. especially giant undead ones.
    Needless to say I tend to avoid that part of the map.

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  • Batel.9206Batel.9206 Member ✭✭✭
    edited August 21, 2019

    The two main, prominent relationships in the game are actually kinda disturbing.

    Faolain/Caithe is absolutely an abuser/victim relationship and was uncomfortable to watch. I want to blame Caithe for not wising up sooner, for not being honest about her situation, but it feels unfair given how those kinds of relationship dynamics work in real life. The writing feels one part Idiot Plot and one part true to life, so it ends up being well done because it was uncomfortable.

    Meanwhile, Kasjory was out of the blue, forced, and pandering. There wasn't sufficient build-up during Season 1, and during Season 2, they were inappropriately doe-eyed during cutscenes, dragging out already-unskippable content even more. When player backlash hit, then the writing for them teetered into relationship strife (thus what I mean by pandering) and then an emotional break that never really recovered. The whole awkwardness of it weighed down story writing for years.

    ......I typed up a huge rant about why this is so spot-on, and it came across as just petty, so... I AGREE. ;)Especially about Kasmeer and Marjory...ugh.

    One thing I will say, though, is that Caithe's whole character just feels...gross. She's meant to be looked upon as this tragic figure with a dark, horrible past - and with the revelation about Wynne, she absolutely is. However, before I knew about that, her entire character felt like it could be summed up as "My ex-girlfriend was a horrible evil meanie-pants and so now I am sad." I kept thinking that Faolain left her only a few years back, so the emotional wounds are still fresh...and then come to find out, no, Faolain left her over twenty years ago.
    And Caithe didn't come to terms with it until roughly Heart of Thorns - about twenty-five years later, give or take a year or so.
    ...wow. Yeah. Way to portray a strong character with a dark past: a pitiful, pathetic creature who wallows in despair and agony while hypocritically berating everybody else for being stuck in the past.
    [facepalm] I never had sympathy for Caithe, and that realization didn't help. If there had been some hint that Faolain was only a tiny part of why Caithe is the tragic figure she's meant to be, that would have been better - but it didn't feel like there was, until the very end of Season Two with Wynne. That carries weight. Caithe's relationship with Faolain...doesn't.
    (Now, to be fair, I haven't played past Heart of Thorns - I don't know if Caithe's character improves later on. So take my criticism with a grain of salt. :) [And no spoilers, please!])

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  • Loesh.4697Loesh.4697 Member ✭✭✭

    That is an...interesting...theory.

    That said, i'm pretty sure Jok is literally just throwing a party for two valued employees. I also doubt that they didn't include a brothel due to rating considering the heavy implications of Jokos forbidden vault.

  • Zaklex.6308Zaklex.6308 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Cragga the Eighty Third.6015 said:

    @Ignigknawt.7869 said:

    @Zaklex.6308 said:

    @Ignigknawt.7869 said:
    The renown heart in Wayfarer Foothills where you kill the mother dolyaks and and capture their babies.

    You do know you're supposed to capture them without killing the mothers don't you? Before you say it can't be done, let me assure you it most certainly can.

    You're still taking her babies though, that doesn't make it much better lol.

    Agreed

    It is easier when you kill the mom, and there is absolutely no in-game penalty for killing the mom, so I don't know how it can be assumed that you are 'supposed' to do it without killing the mom. (Yeah, I usually try to anyway.)

    At one time, it's no longer available(that I'm aware of and I wasn't even trying to get it) and I'm not even sure it's in the historical category an Achievement for doing it without killing any of the Dolyaks. Also the event description used to tell you that, but that was changed too.

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  • Udolpho.1209Udolpho.1209 Member ✭✭✭

    @Tuchanka.5148 said:
    Maybe this is just something that bugs me but, the nameless NPC Pact Soldiers in Dragonfall using Maguuma HoT dialogues if you talk to them multiple times. Still not trusting Sylvari...while facing an ED that just fell through the mists into the ocean. Yes of course the Sylvari are your main problem right now.... e.e
    This is just immersion breaking....an oversight and/or just lazy :(

    Lol. While it probably was laziness... at the same time, it's almost clever and realistic. Reminds me of current politics. Ignoring the huge problems facing everyone, some dude is still bringing up some irrelevant issue long in the past, about some regular person and their ethnicity/religion/sexuality/gender etc.

  • Knighthonor.4061Knighthonor.4061 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Dragon Priestess.9760 said:
    Not really. GW2 is a game where I have a hard time feeling anything for the story or narrative. Whether that says something about the quality of the writing is up to you.

    this where I stand. I want bigger lore figures

  • Wizler.8192Wizler.8192 Member ✭✭✭

    The Dredge sniper in Thunderhead Keep (the adventure) is kinda sad. The poor guy has to pick off his former friends and coworkers who got branded. His dialog is interesting though as he comments on different targets.

  • sorudo.9054sorudo.9054 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Vayne.8563 said:

    @sorudo.9054 said:
    the lack of quests, when playing this game for over 7 years and only having hearts i start longing for quests, even fetch quests are better than this boring chore.

    Hearts aren't the quests in this game, dynamic events are. There are plenty of escort and fetch dynamic events. Why concern yourself with the hearts if they're such a chore? Particularly because events can fill in most of them without you even trying to do them.

    and DE's are not supposed to be the quests in the game, that's the big problem here.
    there is no such thing as quests in GW2, hearts are not worth even using anymore and DE's are not made to support the kind of story quests do, that's why GW2 feels so empty.
    we need quests, i seriously don't care if they are the boring kind, a good story can make the most boring quest meaningful.
    it's up to the story writers to fill gaps, lately this game has more gaps than a collapsing mountain.

  • nosleepdemon.1368nosleepdemon.1368 Member ✭✭✭
    edited August 22, 2019

    I like this thread. Nearly every negative creature / dialog event listed here had the exact opposite effect on me. I find the story to be a little hum drum at times, and some of the more morally bereft moments are a joy to behold.

    As for negative moments for me, basically any time any NPC speaks who isn't Canach or Rytlock. That goes double for Taimi.

  • sephiroth.4217sephiroth.4217 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited August 22, 2019

    For me... It's players that misuse the word "gankers".
    It's the whole Nouns and Verbs thing.... People forget basic English skills when complaining about "gankers".

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  • Leo G.4501Leo G.4501 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Vlad Morbius.1759 said:

    @Cerioth.7062 said:
    Have there been any story lines, dialogue, events, random little details, skills, sound effects or something else that made you feel discomfort or disgust?

    What comes to my mind is this piece of dialogue:

    Champion Drakin Cinderspire: We can cover this land in fire. We shall see the citadels alight!
    Champion Drakin Cinderspire: All shall bow. All shall have the truth burned into them.
    Champion Drakin Cinderspire: We shall rise and cleanse this world of the weak and unfaithful.
    Champion Drakin Cinderspire: Oh, woman playing soldier. We have a space in the breeding farms for your insolence. Surrender and atone!
    Legionnaire Vesta Scorchpath: Not now. Not ever. Besides, we have a message for you.
    Champion Drakin Cinderspire: Speak before I burn your tongues away.

    Political correctness gone overboard. I'm sorry but if you're offended by anything in a video game you need to step back and get help. I'm sick and tired of every want to be PC warrior screwing with my life and my fun because they spend their time trying to find something to complain about. This game is rated, if you didn't want to see or experience these things then maybe you should have read up about it, and if you're a long time player; shame on you for attention grabbing!

    Agreed. But I can forgive people that just want to vent online on a forum. It's all water off a duck's back.

    My problem is when people pretending to be offended by something not meant to offend (like a video game) will virtue signal and pander to the whims and emotions of the pearl clutching online justice brigade but turn a blind eye to their hypocritical virtues that cause actual harm. Something like the OP's post would be happening right now irl and their virtues would facilitate it because we should accept every lie, crook and thief that invades our homes unimpeded.

  • Leo G.4501Leo G.4501 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Dante.1763 said:

    @Vlad Morbius.1759 said:

    @Cerioth.7062 said:
    Have there been any story lines, dialogue, events, random little details, skills, sound effects or something else that made you feel discomfort or disgust?

    What comes to my mind is this piece of dialogue:

    Champion Drakin Cinderspire: We can cover this land in fire. We shall see the citadels alight!
    Champion Drakin Cinderspire: All shall bow. All shall have the truth burned into them.
    Champion Drakin Cinderspire: We shall rise and cleanse this world of the weak and unfaithful.
    Champion Drakin Cinderspire: Oh, woman playing soldier. We have a space in the breeding farms for your insolence. Surrender and atone!
    Legionnaire Vesta Scorchpath: Not now. Not ever. Besides, we have a message for you.
    Champion Drakin Cinderspire: Speak before I burn your tongues away.

    Political correctness gone overboard. I'm sorry but if you're offended by anything in a video game you need to step back and get help. I'm sick and tired of every want to be PC warrior screwing with my life and my fun because they spend their time trying to find something to complain about. This game is rated, if you didn't want to see or experience these things then maybe you should have read up about it, and if you're a long time player; shame on you for attention grabbing!

    Its funny, cause nowhere in that post does they say the word offended.

    You can be disgusted by the thought of something without being offended by it, its not a bad thing either. In my RP sessions ive seen or done things that have made me feel disgusted or angry, its -normal- to feel things when exposed to ideas that -are- awful. Breeding farms? JFC if it was found somebody was running one in real life id be disgusted!! Offended though? No.

    Loosely related words. While neither "disgust" or "offend" are used to define or describe the other, they share other synonyms like annoy, displease, anger.

  • There is one scene in the game that felt disturbing to me. Not because of its intended content, but because of the way it was structured. In the Gates of Maguuma chapter of LWS2 there's a mission called Fallen Hopes. In it, you encounter a dying Zephyrite, and this dialogue follows:

    Morning: Please. I'm here. Help me.
    Kasmeer Meade: This one's alive but hurt badly.
    Marjory Delaqua: You're going to be okay. My friends and I will get you out of here.
    Morning: F-f-forget about me. The Master of Peace is in danger. Someone has to go find him and protect him.
    Marjory Delaqua: The Master of Peace? Your leader? Where is he? Why is he in danger?
    Morning: I don't...know why. But the sylvari is trying to kill him. Please...
    Marjory Delaqua: Hey. Hey! Stay with me. Ahh...kitten. She's dead.
    Kasmeer Meade: I hate to speak ill of the dead, but that Zephyrite was lying.
    Marjory Delaqua: About what?
    Kasmeer Meade: Don't get me wrong. She was very afraid for the Master of Peace. But when she said she didn't know why he was in danger...I could tell. She was lying.
    Marjory Delaqua: Why would she lie? Are you sure?
    Kasmeer Meade: Absolutely. It was in her posture and in her eyes. She didn't give us the whole truth.
    Marjory Delaqua: I believe you. Let's press on and see if we can find any more answers.

    Note that Morning is the name of a person. If you've lived a little, you can probably see the part that's... off. A dying person decides in her desperate pleas of help to whatever stranger walks by that she is going to lie about one extremely specific and obtuse detail. Just because. This is done to establish that Kasmeer has preternatural lie-detector abilities, because apparently there is no better way to shove a lying person into the grander story. This wasn't some grand secret being kept, either. The only thing she didn't say was that the master had the egg, and this didn't even require a lie. She could've just been vague and said stuff like "He wants its power" or something like that.

    The point that rubs me the wrong way is that people don't do this. There's a reason why deathbed testimonies are given higher regard in court. A person on the brink of death has no more reason to lie. As their life flashes before their eyes and the weight of their mortality squeezes the soul from their body, they tell the truth, because they have no vanity left. If I were to compare other fictional examples of this trope:

    "Rosebud"

    "I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhäuser Gate. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. "

    It's like whomever was writing the story never realized that this part was way off base on a fundamental human level.

    "Self awareness is knowing when you're sitting at the throne of ignorance." --Leo G.

  • zoejo.2317zoejo.2317 Member ✭✭

    I'm surprised that no one's mentioned "I know your face from my dreams!"

  • Elspereth.1280Elspereth.1280 Member ✭✭✭

    @Blood Red Arachnid.2493 said:

    Note that Morning is the name of a person. If you've lived a little, you can probably see the part that's... off. A dying person decides in her desperate pleas of help to whatever stranger walks by that she is going to lie about one extremely specific and obtuse detail. Just because. This is done to establish that Kasmeer has preternatural lie-detector abilities, because apparently there is no better way to shove a lying person into the grander story. This wasn't some grand secret being kept, either. The only thing she didn't say was that the master had the egg, and this didn't even require a lie. She could've just been vague and said stuff like "He wants its power" or something like that.

    The point that rubs me the wrong way is that people don't do this. There's a reason why deathbed testimonies are given higher regard in court. A person on the brink of death has no more reason to lie. As their life flashes before their eyes and the weight of their mortality squeezes the soul from their body, they tell the truth, because they have no vanity left.

    And I would have to disagree. If the egg is supposed to be this big secret (and considering what it is I think that it certainly is "some grand secret") then of course Morning would lie about it. She would have absolutely no reason to tell a bunch of strangers about it.

  • coso.9173coso.9173 Member ✭✭✭

    @Rattengeist.8165 said:
    https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Forbidden_Vault

    This is a hidden chamber near the Bone Palace in The Desolation. You can only enter it via a small event chain. It's a ..... "cozy" ..... place with lots of blankets and pillows as well as seperate rooms. In the middle stands a statue of Joko striking a.. well.. "sexy" pose. Inside this room are different male and female NPCs: Humans, ogres, harpies and a choya. As you talk to them you find out that this place is where Joko keeps his harem. All these NPCs are betrothed to Joko. Their dialogues are unsettling (obviously, no one there is really happy but they are glad they can "serve him") and the one with the disturbing dialogue is....... the female choya.
    She hides in a tiny seperate room. If you approach her, a human female will say "Leave her alone, she is shy and rarely speaks". If you talk to the choya she will only say "..." and you dialogue option is "Oh no.."

    i had no idea joko was a pansexual intespecist =O

  • @Elspereth.1280 said:

    @Blood Red Arachnid.2493 said:

    Note that Morning is the name of a person. If you've lived a little, you can probably see the part that's... off. A dying person decides in her desperate pleas of help to whatever stranger walks by that she is going to lie about one extremely specific and obtuse detail. Just because. This is done to establish that Kasmeer has preternatural lie-detector abilities, because apparently there is no better way to shove a lying person into the grander story. This wasn't some grand secret being kept, either. The only thing she didn't say was that the master had the egg, and this didn't even require a lie. She could've just been vague and said stuff like "He wants its power" or something like that.

    The point that rubs me the wrong way is that people don't do this. There's a reason why deathbed testimonies are given higher regard in court. A person on the brink of death has no more reason to lie. As their life flashes before their eyes and the weight of their mortality squeezes the soul from their body, they tell the truth, because they have no vanity left.

    And I would have to disagree. If the egg is supposed to be this big secret (and considering what it is I think that it certainly is "some grand secret") then of course Morning would lie about it. She would have absolutely no reason to tell a bunch of strangers about it.

    We're not strangers. We'd been to the Zephyrite Sanctum many times at that point.

    "Self awareness is knowing when you're sitting at the throne of ignorance." --Leo G.

  • Thornwolf.9721Thornwolf.9721 Member ✭✭✭✭

    What disgusts me is all the cute kitten shoveled into the game. There is too much of it, too many sparkles and no way for me to turn it off why? Well it's easy. They believe if I see the sparkly skin, or the cat ears or the cute little neko outfit ill be more inclined to buy it... Rather it turns me off from the game because between the hello-kitty solve everything through friendship story and the cosmetic drivel given for the sake of appeasing people who require a safe space I realize "Not even the devs, who created this world care about it. So why should I?"

    now If I could turn it off and choose not the see it~ Fine. But give me the option to choose not to endure it; Let me turn off everyone else's models and appearances other than mine, so I don't need to view the filth. I don't see why making an option to "Toggle to turn off all outfits for you." Or "This slider can turn down effects of outfits/legendaries ect FOR YOU". It effects no one but me and is for my personal preference, but forcing everyone to look at and see the disco-ball sparkly babies just.... bleck. ( Might also help with performance who knows?)

  • Thornwolf.9721Thornwolf.9721 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Sojourner.4621 said:

    @Thornwolf.9721 said:
    What disgusts me is all the cute kitten shoveled into the game. There is too much of it, too many sparkles and no way for me to turn it off why? Well it's easy. They believe if I see the sparkly skin, or the cat ears or the cute little neko outfit ill be more inclined to buy it... Rather it turns me off from the game because between the hello-kitty solve everything through friendship story and the cosmetic drivel given for the sake of appeasing people who require a safe space I realize "Not even the devs, who created this world care about it. So why should I?"

    now If I could turn it off and choose not the see it~ Fine. But give me the option to choose not to endure it; Let me turn off everyone else's models and appearances other than mine, so I don't need to view the filth. I don't see why making an option to "Toggle to turn off all outfits for you." Or "This slider can turn down effects of outfits/legendaries ect FOR YOU". It effects no one but me and is for my personal preference, but forcing everyone to look at and see the disco-ball sparkly babies just.... bleck. ( Might also help with performance who knows?)

    If it turns you off the game, maybe turn off the game.... instead of complaining in multiple forum threads about the same thing as if your opinion is the only one that matters.

    Why not, the rest of the community does it? Besides it was on topic, its not as if Im stating it out of the blue as if its not something that doesn't relate to the topic. Im sorry you dislike my opinion sadly Like everyone else Im allowed to have one and since Im not directly coming at anyone; Being rude or even harmful there is little you can do about it. I suggest blocking/ignoring me it works wonders and perhaps would save you from the minor rants I do. I do it from a place of love for the game, not out of malicious intent.

  • ugrakarma.9416ugrakarma.9416 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Raknar.4735 said:
    Boneyard in the Domain of Vabbi felt uncomfortable and sad at the same time.

    https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/The_Boneyard

    I was also shocked, if there's anything worse than death, it's being discarded in a body dump and staying there forever.

    main pvp: Khel the Undead(power reaper).