Hope developers not naive again

[Slick.7164]

Dear Anet,As you well know, (since most of you are on this server) a particular over-stacked server is planning to manipulate you again next reset. This bunch of blobs are going to manipulate and sink themselves to T4 in order to get a server link and open their server for transfers. Please pay attention too their actual numbers of people leaving, for example(guilds, peeps not ftp etc). They are over-stacked now and no matter how much they manipulate your program for assigning such matters, do not need more people on that blob. Let them manipulate and fall to t4 and let them stay there unimpeded for the following server reset. They have full ques on all maps at any time zone if they choose too. They did this almost exactly a year ago, please don't fall for this again.

[RisenHowl.2419]

It's not naive, why create an alliance system when the current system is so profitable? Why do anything at all to jeopardize that income really?

[Justine.6351]

You know it's going to be amazing when a thread starts with "dear anet".

[DeadlySynz.3471]

@"RisenHowl.2419" said:It's not naive, why create an alliance system when the current system is so profitable? Why do anything at all to jeopardize that income really?

In theory people "think" it's profitable. In reality though, barely anyone (especially these guilds) are spending cash on transfers. Many of these guild leaders have over 100,000 gold on them (this isn't even counting what the guild as a whole has stashed). The amount of players actually using cash to transfer probably amounts to less than 1%, and that's being generous.

[Strider Pj.2193]

@Slick.7164 said:Dear Anet,As you well know, (since most of you are on this server) a particular over-stacked server is planning to manipulate you again next reset. This bunch of blobs are going to manipulate and sink themselves to T4 in order to get a server link and open their server for transfers. Please pay attention too their actual numbers of people leaving, for example(guilds, peeps not ftp etc). They are over-stacked now and no matter how much they manipulate your program for assigning such matters, do not need more people on that blob. Let them manipulate and fall to t4 and let them stay there unimpeded for the following server reset. They have full ques on all maps at any time zone if they choose too. They did this almost exactly a year ago, please don't fall for this again.

So, has this manipulative blob sunk to T4 before?

[Sovereign.1093]

ppl should be allowed to transfer. :/ let them be. let players find where they can enjoy to play wvw.

[KeyOrion.9506]

Some guilds have a tithe system, that they use in order to get players transferred from another server onto their home server. It's usually not the other way around. It does happen, but not often as you think. And they don't need to spend 1 cent.

[Stand The Wall.6987]

thou shalt not accuse hibergate

[Slick.7164]

Uhhhh Yes this particular server has done this in the past. They pulled the wool so far over the eyes of the devs that they thought it was night time. They will try it again. I am more curious to see if the company has wised up to it or just part of it.

[Sovereign.1093]

@KeyOrion.9506 said:Some guilds have a tithe system, that they use in order to get players transferred from another server onto their home server. It's usually not the other way around. It does happen, but not often as you think. And they don't need to spend 1 cent.

thats fine. unless devs decides to change where only gems bought can be used to transfer. but be warned, this may cause more ppl to leave the game.

variety is the spice of life, you can only do something so much. unless new stuff comes.

[subversiontwo.7501]

@RisenHowl.2419 said:It's not naive, why create an alliance system when the current system is so profitable? Why do anything at all to jeopardize that income really?You mean apart from the facts that the same system makes it difficult to recruit players from the outside to the game/mode, that it makes players in the game/mode quit, that it makes people unhappy and less prone to spend gems on other things (or play enough to value spendinging) or that it betrays their own principles or how they talk about the game. I mean, no one cares that us bleeting sheep on the forums are calling them out on it, but if someone worth listening to would question how they talk about how playing is free but playing with friends could cost you to just access this mode's content with then that would be another PR-disaster. So there may be a few minor inklings as to why they're looking at an alternative to the milking.

[Strider Pj.2193]

@Slick.7164 said:Uhhhh Yes this particular server has done this in the past. They pulled the wool so far over the eyes of the devs that they thought it was night time. They will try it again. I am more curious to see if the company has wised up to it or just part of it.

So, this must be an eu server then?

[Strider Pj.2193]

As the server that shall not be named in NA is still in T1, and at worst, will finish in second place?

And hasn’t been in T 4 in maybe.., 5 years?

[sephiroth.4217]

@Strider Pj.2193 said:

@Slick.7164 said:Dear Anet,As you well know, (since most of you are on this server) a particular over-stacked server is planning to manipulate you again next reset. This bunch of blobs are going to manipulate and sink themselves to T4 in order to get a server link and open their server for transfers. Please pay attention too their actual numbers of people leaving, for example(guilds, peeps not ftp etc). They are over-stacked now and no matter how much they manipulate your program for assigning such matters, do not need more people on that blob. Let them manipulate and fall to t4 and let them stay there unimpeded for the following server reset. They have full ques on all maps at any time zone if they choose too. They did this almost exactly a year ago, please don't fall for this again.

So, has this manipulative blob sunk to T4 before?

On the 3rd week of game release.

BG hasnt left t1 since the 6th week of game release except the off week around the 10th week of release of which it fell to the top spot of t2 before returning back to t1.

[Acheron.4731]

lol, people aren't hibernating to get a server opened. Ppl are simply quitting. Big difference

[Stand The Wall.6987]

@Acheron.4731 said:lol, people aren't hibernating to get a server opened. Ppl are simply quitting. Big difference

so what should we call this new tactic? funnelgate?

[Acheron.4731]

@Stand The Wall.6987 said:

@Acheron.4731 said:lol, people aren't hibernating to get a server opened. Ppl are simply quitting. Big difference

so what should we call this new tactic? funnelgate?

Room for improvement :)

[Strider Pj.2193]

@sephiroth.4217 said:

@Strider Pj.2193 said:

@Slick.7164 said:Dear Anet,As you well know, (since most of you are on this server) a particular over-stacked server is planning to manipulate you again next reset. This bunch of blobs are going to manipulate and sink themselves to T4 in order to get a server link and open their server for transfers. Please pay attention too their actual numbers of people leaving, for example(guilds, peeps not ftp etc). They are over-stacked now and no matter how much they manipulate your program for assigning such matters, do not need more people on that blob. Let them manipulate and fall to t4 and let them stay there unimpeded for the following server reset. They have full ques on all maps at any time zone if they choose too. They did this almost exactly a year ago, please don't fall for this again.

So, has this manipulative blob sunk to T4 before?

On the 3rd week of game release.

BG hasnt left t1 since the 6th week of game release except the off week around the 10th week of release of which it fell to the top spot of t2 before returning back to t1.

BG has been in T2 several times. But not below.

Which is why either the OP was... let’s just say ‘unaware’ vs hyperbolic.

And if this is the server the OP is talking about, they finished in first last week and have a sizable lead this week. Along with a 1.4 k/d ratio.

So, the OP MUST be talking about an EU server tanking... ?

[sephiroth.4217]

@Strider Pj.2193 said:

@sephiroth.4217 said:

@Strider Pj.2193 said:

@"Slick.7164" said:Dear Anet,As you well know, (since most of you are on this server) a particular over-stacked server is planning to manipulate you again next reset. This bunch of blobs are going to manipulate and sink themselves to T4 in order to get a server link and open their server for transfers. Please pay attention too their actual numbers of people leaving, for example(guilds, peeps not ftp etc). They are over-stacked now and no matter how much they manipulate your program for assigning such matters, do not need more people on that blob. Let them manipulate and fall to t4 and let them stay there unimpeded for the following server reset. They have full ques on all maps at any time zone if they choose too. They did this almost exactly a year ago, please don't fall for this again.

So, has this manipulative blob sunk to T4 before?

On the 3rd week of game release.

BG hasnt left t1 since the 6th week of game release except the off week around the 10th week of release of which it fell to the top spot of t2 before returning back to t1.

BG has been in T2 several times. But not below.

Which is why either the OP was... let’s just say ‘unaware’ vs hyperbolic.

And if this is the server the OP is talking about, they finished in first last week and have a sizable lead this week. Along with a 1.4 k/d ratio.

So, the OP MUST be talking about an EU server tanking... ?

http://gw2stats.com/servers/history/33

Nah the first 6 weeks they were below hehe but otherwise yea looks like they accidentally fell to t2 for a week here or there over the last year or so but have otherwise held t1 since game release.

[Strider Pj.2193]

@sephiroth.4217 said:

@Strider Pj.2193 said:

@sephiroth.4217 said:

@Strider Pj.2193 said:

@"Slick.7164" said:Dear Anet,As you well know, (since most of you are on this server) a particular over-stacked server is planning to manipulate you again next reset. This bunch of blobs are going to manipulate and sink themselves to T4 in order to get a server link and open their server for transfers. Please pay attention too their actual numbers of people leaving, for example(guilds, peeps not ftp etc). They are over-stacked now and no matter how much they manipulate your program for assigning such matters, do not need more people on that blob. Let them manipulate and fall to t4 and let them stay there unimpeded for the following server reset. They have full ques on all maps at any time zone if they choose too. They did this almost exactly a year ago, please don't fall for this again.

So, has this manipulative blob sunk to T4 before?

On the 3rd week of game release.

BG hasnt left t1 since the 6th week of game release except the off week around the 10th week of release of which it fell to the top spot of t2 before returning back to t1.

BG has been in T2 several times. But not below.

Which is why either the OP was... let’s just say ‘unaware’ vs hyperbolic.

And if this is the server the OP is talking about, they finished in first last week and have a sizable lead this week. Along with a 1.4 k/d ratio.

So, the OP MUST be talking about an EU server tanking... ?

http://gw2stats.com/servers/history/33

Nah the first 6 weeks they were below hehe but otherwise yea looks like they accidentally fell to t2 for a week here or there over the last year or so but have otherwise held t1 since game release.

Exactly.

[nthmetal.9652]

@DeadlySynz.3471 said:

@"RisenHowl.2419" said:It's not naive, why create an alliance system when the current system is so profitable? Why do anything at all to jeopardize that income really?

In theory people "think" it's profitable. In reality though, barely anyone (especially these guilds) are spending cash on transfers. Many of these guild leaders have over 100,000 gold on them (this isn't even counting what the guild as a whole has stashed). The amount of players actually using cash to transfer probably amounts to less than 1%, and that's being generous.

You do realize that for to be able to exhange gold to gems, someone else would have had to provide the gems. Maybe these people did not pay, but someone did.

[Roxory.9854]

@RisenHowl.2419 said:It's not naive, why create an alliance system when the current system is so profitable? Why do anything at all to jeopardize that income really?

It's only going to be profitable with a player base, that player base seems to be leaving because there is NO balance and servers have become pay to win and guilds just swap servers to stack another one. I understand the profit point of view but it's only temporary profit as this stagnant wvw mode of pay to win is the reason wvw is losing population . Other guilds have dissolved into dead guilds as they tried to server hop and pay to win and not the whole guild transferred or could afford it. It's literally killing WvW, T1 resets with no ques last week? Even the die hard 7 year players of wvw are leaving and I don't blame them. Not sure what balance patches even do in a blob of 2*50 squads where you get skill lag and it just comes down to being a numbers game and a server stacking game that provides the same results for over 2 years now. 1 server is always in T1 unless they purposely lose and no manner of server linking is not going to fix this. WvW is dying badly, it's a ghost town compared to years ago. I give it till the end of the year and it will be dead unless something is done to fix the number blobing.