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Every class loses to condi damage, condi is too easy to apply/spam


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@"AngelLovesFredrik.6741" said:

@"AngelLovesFredrik.6741" said:Core guardian, Firebrand, conversion Holo, elixir Holo, DH, scrapper, water Weaver, bear stance soulbeast.These classes are borderline immune to most Condi builds. The only ones they can die to are either hybrid or have an insane amount of Condi spread.

That being said, both Condi thief and mirage have incredibly stupid ways of applying said conditions. Mirage can kite around dodging to proc ih for insanely wide Condi stacks. And we all know the issues with Condi thief atm.

How is elixer holo immune to condi? The only cleansing in this build is Healing turret, prismatic converter and rune of leadership.

Elixir Holo concerts 4 condis into boons every 10 seconds. Removes 2 per 15 seconds with turret and convert 3 more every 30-60 seconds depending on if you run power wrench or not.

It also has perma vigor to dodge a lot of the application. If all above isn't enough, go conversion Holo and HLA.

Rifle Holo Get's gutted by any and any good Condi Mirage player at all. This Entire match up is In favor of Condi Mirage Over Rifle holo.

Helio And Naru Agree that this isn't a favorable match up at all for Holosmith unless the Mirage is just really bad and unable to properly land his or her skills. This exact same thing vs Condi Thief which is also favor in condi thief over holo.

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@"AngelLovesFredrik.6741" said:

@"AngelLovesFredrik.6741" said:Core guardian, Firebrand, conversion Holo, elixir Holo, DH, scrapper, water Weaver, bear stance soulbeast.These classes are borderline immune to most Condi builds. The only ones they can die to are either hybrid or have an insane amount of Condi spread.

That being said, both Condi thief and mirage have incredibly stupid ways of applying said conditions. Mirage can kite around dodging to proc ih for insanely wide Condi stacks. And we all know the issues with Condi thief atm.

How is elixer holo immune to condi? The only cleansing in this build is Healing turret, prismatic converter and rune of leadership.

Elixir Holo concerts 4 condis into boons every 10 seconds. Removes 2 per 15 seconds with turret and convert 3 more every 30-60 seconds depending on if you run power wrench or not.

It also has perma vigor to dodge a lot of the application. If all above isn't enough, go conversion Holo and HLA.

Rifle Holo Get's gutted by any and any good Condi Mirage player at all. This Entire match up is In favor of Condi Mirage Over Rifle holo.

Helio And Naru Agree that this isn't a favorable match up at all for Holosmith unless the Mirage is just really bad and unable to properly land his or her skills. This exact same thing vs Condi Thief which is also favor in condi thief over holo.

He didn't state those specific classes. He was talking about Condi overall.Engineer has bad matchup against them, not solely because of the Condi spam. Try killing a rifle Holo on Condi engineer. Condi guard or Condi war.

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@"AngelLovesFredrik.6741" said:

@Ouk.5914 said:

@"AngelLovesFredrik.6741" said:

@"AngelLovesFredrik.6741" said:Core guardian, Firebrand, conversion Holo, elixir Holo, DH, scrapper, water Weaver, bear stance soulbeast.These classes are borderline immune to most Condi builds. The only ones they can die to are either hybrid or have an insane amount of Condi spread.

That being said, both Condi thief and mirage have incredibly stupid ways of applying said conditions. Mirage can kite around dodging to proc ih for insanely wide Condi stacks. And we all know the issues with Condi thief atm.

How is elixer holo immune to condi? The only cleansing in this build is Healing turret, prismatic converter and rune of leadership.

Elixir Holo concerts 4 condis into boons every 10 seconds. Removes 2 per 15 seconds with turret and convert 3 more every 30-60 seconds depending on if you run power wrench or not.

It also has perma vigor to dodge a lot of the application. If all above isn't enough, go conversion Holo and HLA.

Rifle Holo Get's gutted by any and any good Condi Mirage player at all. This Entire match up is In favor of Condi Mirage Over Rifle holo.

Helio And Naru Agree that this isn't a favorable match up at all for Holosmith unless the Mirage is just really bad and unable to properly land his or her skills. This exact same thing vs Condi Thief which is also favor in condi thief over holo.

He didn't state those specific classes. He was talking about Condi overall.Engineer has bad matchup against them, not solely because of the Condi spam. Try killing a rifle Holo on Condi engineer. Condi guard or Condi war.

ah correct, sorry assumed we were talking about current condi spec and not fail condi spec like rev/engi.

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