D/D Ele Roaming - Core, Tempest, or Weaver?

[Fueki.4753]

I'm using Dual Dagger Tempest myself, with Fire/Air/Tempest, "camping" mostly fire and only switch to Air when I want to run away from something.But I'm not using it for PvP (for obvious power creep reasons).

[kornfanxxx.9143]

After reading the comments above mine and becoming slightly triggered at the shameful things said about d/d weaver - I just have to object & put some information out there on the weaponset.

https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/discussion/66433/d-d-weaver-prepare-to-be-refuted-you-naysayers#latest

https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/discussion/66568/d-d-weaver-video-that-you-guys-wanted#latest

Up to date build: http://gw2skills.net/editor/?PGhAgilZwiYQMJmJm8WbvOA-z1IY1ohvMCsAKNBU7AEwG4tQ/rF-w

screenshots of ARCDPS damage breakdowns of my attacks from a while back: https://imgur.com/a/vkDD7at

[JusticeRetroHunter.7684]

I was in duel arenas with Poe, and he was playing DD core and he assassinated me. He is far far better than me, but his build def looked cool, fun to play and seemed very viable. Wish I could tell you more than that but that’s all I know

Edit; from what I remember Poe ran water, air and arcane on marauder.

[alain.1659]

@"kornfanxxx.9143" said:After reading the comments above mine and becoming slightly triggered at the shameful things said about d/d weaver - I just have to object & put some information out there on the weaponset.

https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/discussion/66433/d-d-weaver-prepare-to-be-refuted-you-naysayers#latest

https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/discussion/66568/d-d-weaver-video-that-you-guys-wanted#latest

Up to date build: http://gw2skills.net/editor/?PGhAgilZwiYQMJmJm8WbvOA-z1IY1ohvMCsAKNBU7AEwG4tQ/rF-w

screenshots of ARCDPS damage breakdowns of my attacks from a while back: https://imgur.com/a/vkDD7at

That is a really good gameplay. As a fan of dd core ele myself I approve any dagger weaver play. But it seems like your victories are a result of your skill, and I wonder if that combat would be easier with a sword or not. I am not saying that dd weaver is bad, it feels like it is just not as good as sw/d, at least not for me. But thanks for the vid, you made me wanna try dd weaver again :)

[kornfanxxx.9143]

@alain.1659 said:

@"kornfanxxx.9143" said:After reading the comments above mine and becoming slightly triggered at the shameful things said about d/d weaver - I just have to object & put some information out there on the weaponset.

https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/discussion/66433/d-d-weaver-prepare-to-be-refuted-you-naysayers#latest

https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/discussion/66568/d-d-weaver-video-that-you-guys-wanted#latest

Up to date build:

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?PGhAgilZwiYQMJmJm8WbvOA-z1IY1ohvMCsAKNBU7AEwG4tQ/rF-w

screenshots of ARCDPS damage breakdowns of my attacks from a while back:

https://imgur.com/a/vkDD7at

That is a really good gameplay. As a fan of dd core ele myself I approve any dagger weaver play. But it seems like your victories are a result of your skill, and I wonder if that combat would be easier with a sword or not. I am not saying that dd weaver is bad, it feels like it is just not as good as sw/d, at least not for me. But thanks for the vid, you made me wanna try dd weaver again :)

I like to think that D/D weaver's skill floor is just really high. creating a muscle memory to use unravel to access the majority of your I-frames on the 3 key (burning speed/steam surge/mud slide/earthen rush) seems to be difficult for most people, since your pressing anywhere from 2 to 4 keys extremely fast then hitting your I-frame to dodge vs just hitting one key (Like riptide/earthen vortex i-frame combo) required to use an I-frame. I just really like D/D since I can weave alot of individual damage reduction bonuses(Weave self's 20%, frost aura 10%, Food 10%, protection 33%, Grinding Stones 25%) and offensively natured I-frames (Burning speed,Steam surge,Mud Slide, Earthen Rush, Updraft) to just dump pressure and AoE CC on others while avoiding it myself.

[Zhaid Zhem.6508]

For PvP imo Sword is better : closegap with air#2 from behind a wall etc, easier water combo and evades.... Edit, and because of amulets and sigils you better want the sustain from sword than from dagger.

But WvW is a very different gameplay with different needs : D/D has more range, more CC, 360 radius skills, better mobility, earth#2 to block projectiles, no clumsy duals dkills and better #3 core skills (leaps/evades and schoking aura). Overall you should have better DPS in WvW for those reasons, particulary against 2 or more foes and in small groups.Unravel is nearly useless with sword but very powerful with dagger once you handle it; you lose lightning flash ( or twist of fate, or...) but you can access instantly to water in bad situations to cleanse or heal; to air to use schoking aura against a thief; or to chain leaps very fast.Plus, on contrary to pvp, in a big open aera against thieds, rangers etc if you want to flee or chase you better want to chain leaps than Lightning flash.Of course it needs some skill and practice to learn some skills chains, to not leap in a vacuum, to keep your range to hit but not be hitten ... like ele always has been.And I think there is also a bit of ignorance from players : Sword weaver is very predictable, even if you don't play weaver you know about the dance, twist of fate, Riptide + earth's blasts and you know it lacks mobility /ease to stick... but most of players don't know well about D/D weaver. For example with a D/D weaver, or I kill a sword weaver very fast or he is stuck in water-earth to sustain himself, but he has no range, not enough dps or cc to overwhelm me.I played both sets and I honestly think D/D is far more better in WvW, with more utilities to thwart most of situations and encounters.