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Suggestion - change cripple to slow to help chrono

jaif.3518jaif.3518 Member ✭✭✭

This is just a thought, but if the devs went through mesmer core skills and traits and changed cripple to slow (sword 2, gs 4, etc...) then there would be more synergy with chrono talents.

This would also be in-line with their general idea of focusing the classes on specific boons/condis.

-Jeff

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  • Leonidrex.5649Leonidrex.5649 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @jaif.3518 said:
    This is just a thought, but if the devs went through mesmer core skills and traits and changed cripple to slow (sword 2, gs 4, etc...) then there would be more synergy with chrono talents.

    This would also be in-line with their general idea of focusing the classes on specific boons/condis.

    -Jeff

    sword 2 doesnt have a cripple, and there is a reason why cripple is applied by GS and not slow, slow is also much stronger then cripple in pvp.
    they shouldnt balance entire class dps by a condition that they cant even apply themself, its just silly

  • @Leonidrex.5649 said:
    they shouldnt balance entire class dps by a condition that they cant even apply themself, its just silly

    Could work if they make "Lost Time" apply slow whenever cripple. Though it'll make it rather niche as then dps would have to sacrifice chronophantasma for reliable generation with GS build.

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  • jaif.3518jaif.3518 Member ✭✭✭

    sword 2 doesnt have a cripple, and there is a reason why cripple is applied by GS and not slow, slow is also much stronger then cripple in pvp.

    Sorry, sword 3 - the leap thing.

    they shouldnt balance entire class dps by a condition that they cant even apply themself, its just silly

    Chronos can apply slow, but it's very limited.

    Could work if they make "Lost Time" apply slow whenever cripple.

    That would work too, but it's a bit more powerful since now you have 2 condis.

  • Making chrono reliant on slow is like forcing a square brick in to a round hole, it won’t work unless slow is as abundant as on the end of every auto chain, F1, phantasm cast etc. (note that the mesmer would do these things naturally). The only problem is that it would be broken in pretty all game modes.

    It just doesn’t work because the condition is meant to be both rare and powerful, and because of that it appropiately comes in a few skills and short durations - short durations which are all stacked on one target and fails to be transferred to the next, and can otherwise be easily cleansed given that power builds, not condi ones, rely on it the most.

    So when we discuss Danger Time and Split Second (basically F1 with in-built DT), the only things that interact with slow (so no, chrono does not actually ‘focus on slow’), as the names suggest these were supposedly meant to capitalise on short slow durations. As such, I don’t believe they were ever truly designed for perma/high uptimes of slow (DT would be obscenely strong for Master tier). Nevertheless, these ‘opportunities’ were best achieved with the previous iteration of Lost Time - slow on CC, no ICD, and where the opponent was correctly positioned to be in a moment of ‘danger’.

    Hence, whilst I’d rather advocate for chrono’s reliance on slow to be significantly devalued (so that the spec can work at least 99% without it), should chrono ever need more slow output, only the previous Lost Time functionality should be returned - meaning that Delayed Reactions completely loses its ICD. Having even more slow thrown around would only leave chrono in a more disastrous state than it is now.

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  • SeikeNz.3526SeikeNz.3526 Member ✭✭✭

    i think all the shatters of chrono should apply slow

  • Axl.8924Axl.8924 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @SeikeNz.3526 said:
    i think all the shatters of chrono should apply slow

    It should be one of the f skills for chrono at most i think as a utility under a controlled cd just in case.

    Here is my list of characters i got so far:

    Elementalist 80 with tempest:Talman nul
    Necromancer 80 with reaper:Zex vokar
    Mesmer level 80 no chrono yet:Klanga voosh.
    Level 80 Ranger with druid spec Jedkhan.

  • Just give our core shatters back and keep the time split how it is now. Give ip back as well. We don't need THREE trade-offs