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Do you think that the wiki entry on the All is accurate?


Stephen.6312

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I've been examining the entry on the wiki about the All, especially the bit that concerns the Priory diagram with the Elder Dragons. I think that we may have missed something here. Each sphere doesn't represent an Elder Dragon as much as it represents the dominant spirit within that magiosphere. So, for example, Grenth and Zaithan co-exist within one sphere (aether magic). Jormag and Dwayna coexist in another sphere (air magic). Primordus and Balthazar coexist in another sphere (fire magic). Kralkatorrik and Lyssa coexist within the next sphere (time magic). Mordremoth and Melandru coexist within the earth magiosphere. And Bubbles and Abbadon co-existed within the water magiosphere.

This would leave Kormir to go somewhere - perhaps in the central orb, for which we have no information as yet.

Your thoughts?

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Those spheres do not correspond at all. Jormag is not air. We know Jormag is ice and the sphere is ice and is in direct opposition to primordus and fire. Zhaitan is not aether. Kralk is not time. Grenth is not aether.

There is no relation to the Gods and any overlap in spheres is either coincidental or forced together by those forcing together patterns when it really just falls down when you realise Anet used very generalised and easy to overlap magical categories.

As for Kormir, she retains much of what was Abaddon given she absorbed his powers and influences and merged with herself

All this is covered throughout the story from ls2 to ls3

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@Randulf.7614 said:Those spheres do not correspond at all. Jormag is not air. We know Jormag is ice and the sphere is ice and is in direct opposition to primordus and fire. Zhaitan is not aether. Kralk is not time. Grenth is not aether.

There is no relation to the Gods and any overlap in spheres is either coincidental or forced together by those forcing together patterns when it really just falls down when you realise Anet used very generalised and easy to overlap magical categories.

As for Kormir, she retains much of what was Abaddon given she absorbed his powers and influences and merged with herself

All this is covered throughout the story from ls2 to ls3

Fair enough, mate.

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Oh for the love of all that is Abaddon.

Elder Dragons are native to Tyria, and the human gods are from elsewhere, so as far as them being related: no.

https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/discussion/comment/494601/#Comment_494601

The gods and dragons are not related at all. People have tried to make correlations for so long that ArenaNet made a reference to the repeated failures to do so in-game about it. And we finally got a strict, no non-sense, confirmation there is no relation.

And to go a bit further: your correlations are off as well. Lyssa has nothing to do with time (and I would argue Kralkatorrik doesn't either given its domains are Crystal and Fury; the prophecizing seems to be a subdomain of Crystal which Lyssa has no relation to either). And aether makes up all magic, Zhaitan/Grenth have no more relation to it than any other god (and mesmers are the profession that make use of it directly best). Also, Mordremoth was not earth - plant != soil (Primordus is sometimes called the "rock dragon", btw).

And that central orb = the world, btw. We don't have "no information" about it, it's rather what we probably have the most certainty of.

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For some reason Anet always wanted to separate the Gods from the Elder Dragons, probably because the Gods are seen a part of "human centric" lore. PoF and Balthazar is signal that they wanted end it. In particular, I find the Gods' parts much more fascinating than the Elder Dragons. But I didn't play GW1, maybe they feel saturated with God related stuff.

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