Stolen Boons should use the initial caster's stats

[Hot Boy.7138]

@Markri.9475 said:If a power ranger shoots a condi opponent that is reflecting, does the reflect use the condi opponents powerstat?

@Markri.9475 said:If a power ranger shoots a condi opponent that is reflecting, does the reflect use the condi opponents powerstat?

I'm not 100% sure about reflects, but I think the answer to that is that it uses the opponent's power stat. Reflects and transfers are to punish the initial caster, but you're not punishing anyone cause it doesn't use the initial caster's stats

[Tycura.1982]

Can reflects get the same treatment? I'd like to see thieves and rangers 1 shot themselves for giggles.

[Leonidrex.5649]

Im amazed it escalated to mesmer op, anyways.since i managed to steal 2min of switftness from necro im fairly confident it steals proper duration ( at least mesmers arcane thevery )I would like it to work it this way too.I would also like for reflect to work off the casters power/condi.

[Hot Boy.7138]

@Leonidrex.5649 said:Im amazed it escalated to mesmer op, anyways.since i managed to steal 2min of switftness from necro im fairly confident it steals proper duration ( at least mesmers arcane thevery )I would like it to work it this way too.I would also like for reflect to work off the casters power/condi.

Yes I agree. Reflects should definitely reflect the intial caster's stats. This game already has the tech because Thieves can share poison that uses the initial caster's stats.

[Aenaos.8160]

Bad idea.It provides unfair advantages and bypasses the investment and limitations of committing to one stat combo or the other..If someone wants the Regeneration they steal to tick more they can invest in Healing Power.Same for conditions returned.If they want the conditions they send back to tick high they should invest in Condition Damage.

[Hot Boy.7138]

@"Aenaos.8160" said:Bad idea.It provides unfair advantages and bypasses the investment and limitations of committing to one stat combo or the other..If someone wants the Regeneration they steal to tick more they can invest in Healing Power.Same for conditions returned.If they want the conditions they send back to tick high they should invest in Condition Damage.

Read what you wrote. "regeneration they steal" / "Conditions returned"... these should use the initial caster's stats. None of these originate from the person doing the transferring/reflecting.

[Hot Boy.7138]

Still relevant. Condition transfers and boon transfers, all of which originate from the target, should use the target's stats.

[Tman.6349]

And still a bad idea

[Zenix.6198]

Boon rip/steal and condi transfer is plenty strong already. No need to powercreep those as well.

[Gamble.4580]

No way imagine power reaper gets big boy stacks that he allows then boom staff 4 back on the ele boom into ds big boy fear burst and take them 3k fire ticks too..

[Hot Boy.7138]

@Gamble.4580 said:No way imagine power reaper gets big boy stacks that he allows then boom staff 4 back on the ele boom into ds big boy fear burst and take them 3k fire ticks too..

well that's the point. To return the punishment someone tried to inflict on you.

[Za Shaloc.3908]

Condi transfers and boon steals are fine as is. If you want to take advantage of these, run more condition damage or concentration. Condi builds like condi Rev and Necro get big value from the current functionality, and as a big condi Rev player, I'd argue that this is a very important component to the build's success. There's much lesser value to absorbing a bunch of condis from your allies only to have them tickle your enemies upon transferring them because they were all running full power, even though you are running deep in condition damage.