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Asure tech behind something: a overused plot.

ugrakarma.9416ugrakarma.9416 Member ✭✭✭✭
edited December 25, 2019 in Lore

i replayed LS2-Hot, i just remembered how annoying to have "asura technology" behind it all.

LS2 - Scarlet, basically a asura in a plant body. Ommad Machine. Inquests running in Dry Top. "Taimi discover things".
HoT - Rata Novus, a useless dragon lab, thanks god they make it a minor plot but again "Taimi discover things".
LS3 - Rata Novus again, Inquest lab in Draconis moons(Rata Arcanum). "Taimi discover things" like ever.
POF - Zero to none "asura tech", Taimi radio.
LS4 - To compensate lack of asura garbage in POF, LS4 is oversaturated with asura tech in everyplace in everywhere that i even can name it all, even Zinn name cameback. ah then Rata Primus.
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Icebrood Saga: its seems the producers realized that asura "science", is boring, tedious, unimpressive, til now in Icebrood Saga its almost reduced to 0, with except of "essences" thing and still the Taimi radio. Even the try to picture it as a joke/satire about scientific nerds are bland, by far the most poor niche of GW2 lore. Icebrood Saga is in right direction, i hope we wont find a "secret lab" again on ice, or "inquests working for Jormag"(!?!) this is too cheap.

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  • Preaching to the choir about the overuse of asura tech.

    That said, it'd be unsurprising if there was an Inquest lab near icebrood territory, since that they do have an interest in studying Elder Dragon magic - especially Kuda. I'd also expect Gorrik to play some role. But I would hope it's not a big role and that the Spirits of the Wild have a much larger role than asura magitech.

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  • Hannelore.8153Hannelore.8153 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited December 25, 2019

    It only seems that way due to confirmation bias, I think.

    The majority of technology in GW2 and Pact efforts have been driven by a Charr-dominated front, and during LS1 & 3, Human tech RE'd from Steam Creatures. Sometimes you'll sees Asura upgrades on them but outside of Taimi "figuring things out all the time" the Asura have very little presence in the story prior to LS4. They were in a few episodes of LS1 & 2 and that was it, and its always Inquest.

    Scarlet Briar doesn't count because attributing her success to being "a plant Asura" is entirely incorrect given that the majority of her armies were Charr, Dredge, Sylvari, Krait and multiracial pirates with only limited Inquest assistance, and that the bulk of her invasion forces across Tyria was formed of a Human technology, even if it was based upon her own prior work.

    Even her megathumpers were a Charr tech, later used against the Chak Gerent.

    Its just that having Taimi always with us makes it seem true. In fact, we solve problems without her more often than not.

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  • ugrakarma.9416ugrakarma.9416 Member ✭✭✭✭

    In Draconis Moons is a bit weird, by the dialogues Balthazar "employed" inquest, but for what? and then they take it as a opportunity to find the body of Zinn(for what? clone him?).

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  • ugrakarma.9416ugrakarma.9416 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited December 25, 2019

    @Konig Des Todes.2086 said:
    Inquest are also asura.

    In the group of "bad guys of each race", inquest is by far the most present.

    Last time we hear about nightmare courtiers was in HoT, sons of svanir(before icebrood saga) in LS2 in the chapter we did party with Eir+Logan and the BitterFrost frontier in LS3, Flame Legion in LS1/Dungeons. Bandits in Siverwastes as "off-history" part of LS2 (we should repel bandit to skritt open the tunnels). LS3 bring bandits as off the main history in Raids. in LS4 we dont have Bandits, Sons of Svanir, Nightmare courtiers or Flame legion, just Inquest.

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  • CETheLucid.3964CETheLucid.3964 Member ✭✭✭✭

    I'd agree the other races are due for a eureka moment or two (norn in particular and especially given the current story) and that we should focus a little more on the supernatural element (Spirits of The Wild, Jormag) of things and a little less the scientific and technological.

    But the asura are the smarties of the races. It shouldn't be an issue that they tend to be the folks that figure things out or map out the process. It's their forte. There's an organic way to do it VS "Can the smart race not be so smart for a min?", because that comes off as equally artificial.

  • Asura are overused and overrepresented. Humans from the books and left over tech could have done half of the stuff credited to asura. They were the no. 1 magic users for a long time. Charr could have been used to solve some of the problems, sylvari could have been used for half of the problem.

    I am at this point very tired of asura and their Flanderization.

  • Sometimes i long for the techless ancient times of gw 1, i love science fiction, but as a seperate entity, not combined with a magical fantasy universe.

  • Count me in on the too much Asura tech train. Was it really necessary for Tixx to make the snow for Wintersday? Does Tyria not have seasons? Really hope the next time a tech solution is needed, it's a bunch of skritt putting together something a group of asura failed to.

  • skritt put together an asura deleting device. It would be epic. Some current events stuff even 'stop the mega-skrit-golem from eating all asura in Metrica'

  • @VAHNeunzehnsechundsiebzig.3618 said:
    skritt put together an asura deleting device. It would be epic. Some current events stuff even 'stop the mega-skrit-golem from eating all asura in Metrica'

    YES YES AND YES, SOMEONE HIRE THIS MAN RIGHT NOW

  • of course only asura mains would try to actually stop it, everybody else would cheer it on.

  • Dawdler.8521Dawdler.8521 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @VAHNeunzehnsechundsiebzig.3618 said:
    skritt put together an asura deleting device. It would be epic. Some current events stuff even 'stop the mega-skrit-golem from eating all asura in Metrica'

    Built by the Inquest with vatgrown Skritt to conceal the true masters.

    gaggle - /ˈɡaɡ(ə)l/ - noun
    A disorderly group of Asura.
    "The gaggle of Asura tried to agree on whether a phase-shifted thermonuclear energy matrix was sufficiently powerful for a device capable of heating bread"

  • @Dawdler.8521 said:

    @VAHNeunzehnsechundsiebzig.3618 said:
    skritt put together an asura deleting device. It would be epic. Some current events stuff even 'stop the mega-skrit-golem from eating all asura in Metrica'

    Built by the Inquest with vatgrown Skritt to conceal the true masters.

    the inquest that does not exist anymore, thanks to Joko?

  • Konig Des Todes.2086Konig Des Todes.2086 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited December 31, 2019

    @VAHNeunzehnsechundsiebzig.3618 said:

    @Dawdler.8521 said:

    @VAHNeunzehnsechundsiebzig.3618 said:
    skritt put together an asura deleting device. It would be epic. Some current events stuff even 'stop the mega-skrit-golem from eating all asura in Metrica'

    Built by the Inquest with vatgrown Skritt to conceal the true masters.

    the inquest that does not exist anymore, thanks to Joko?

    The Inquest aren't wiped out. Joko only took Rata Primus, not the entire Inquest krewe. Which is more or less the equivalent to them losing the Crucible of Eternity - so not the first major loss they survived from. Joko didn't even take out the base in Desert Highlands, despite having direct access to it.

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  • @Konig Des Todes.2086 said:

    @VAHNeunzehnsechundsiebzig.3618 said:

    @Dawdler.8521 said:

    @VAHNeunzehnsechundsiebzig.3618 said:
    skritt put together an asura deleting device. It would be epic. Some current events stuff even 'stop the mega-skrit-golem from eating all asura in Metrica'

    Built by the Inquest with vatgrown Skritt to conceal the true masters.

    the inquest that does not exist anymore, thanks to Joko?

    The Inquest aren't wiped out. Joko only took Rata Primus, not the entire Inquest krewe. Which is more or less the equivalent to them losing the Crucible of Eternity - so not the first major loss they survived from. Joko didn't even take out the base in Desert Highlands, despite having direct access to it.

    oh come on, let a man dream. Besides, DH is just locked in time...

  • @VAHNeunzehnsechundsiebzig.3618 said:
    Besides, DH is just locked in time...

    I was referring to the Inquest base we enter in S4E2, which doesn't actually exist in the open world version of the map, and the PC's infiltration of which post-dates Joko's invasion of Rata Primus.

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