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    Make an Option to switch forums background color from white to black

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    • david.4915david.4915 Member ✭✭

      it would be nice to add some own Profile pictures....

    • Carighan.6758Carighan.6758 Member ✭✭✭✭

      @Gaile Gray.6029 said:
      In relation to switching the forums from white to black, that would require a substantial amount of work, and it's not something that we are planning. We saw the same request when the original forums launched, but they seemed to do ok with the one iteration, and we're intending to stay with that for the foreseeable future.

      Yeah, true. although, depending on which tech you based these on, there might be a ready-made solution already?

      Though layout-wise I'm more concerned about how large the avatars shown for "helpful" are, and how difficult it is to find the actual contents of the post. :pensive:

    • Erebus.7568Erebus.7568 Member ✭✭

      yer switching background colour and ofc. text colours to your choice would be pretty sweet ^^

    • Markus Clouser.7905Markus Clouser.7905 Member ✭

      My eyes bleed from all this white. I won't be missed here because I never posted anyway, but it certainly would've made me be more interested to participate.

    • ZombieSlayeR.8702ZombieSlayeR.8702 Member ✭✭✭

      @Roda.7468 said:

      @Gaile Gray.6029 said:
      About uploading personal avatars: That is something we are not planning to implement, as (1) we cannot host images here for security purposes and (2) allowing the linking to off-site images can create... er... problems when the images are self-chosen but, perhaps, not self-moderated. That's my attempt at putting things subtly, but do you get what I'm saying there? The ability to link to images on third-party sites can lead to poor choices, like Balthazar in a bubble bath, dogs and cats living together, Faren in a speedo... oh wait... ;)

      Anyway, to keep things on an even keel, we're going to host avatars, but we'll definitely look into expanding the choices in the future!!

      It would be amazing if there was a way for you guys to export the character portrait we see when we target our character/when we speak in a dialog box.

      Agreed ~ That would be amazing!

    • Gulesave.5073Gulesave.5073 Member ✭✭

      @Roda.7468 said:

      @Gaile Gray.6029 said:
      About uploading personal avatars: That is something we are not planning to implement, as (1) we cannot host images here for security purposes and (2) allowing the linking to off-site images can create... er... problems when the images are self-chosen but, perhaps, not self-moderated. That's my attempt at putting things subtly, but do you get what I'm saying there? The ability to link to images on third-party sites can lead to poor choices, like Balthazar in a bubble bath, dogs and cats living together, Faren in a speedo... oh wait... ;)

      Anyway, to keep things on an even keel, we're going to host avatars, but we'll definitely look into expanding the choices in the future!!

      It would be amazing if there was a way for you guys to export the character portrait we see when we target our character/when we speak in a dialog box.

      This was the first thing I thought of when I saw the word "avatars." Would probably be a lot of work, but it's a beautiful dream.

    • Donari.5237Donari.5237 Member ✭✭✭✭

      @MithranArkanere.8957 said:
      When everything else fails, there's browser addons to forcefully turn any site into "night mode" like "Dark Mode" or that reduce the brightness like "Turn Off the Lights" for Firefox.

      Does that work for only specific web pages? I don't want to change what my other sites look like, just this one.

    • LadySilverHand.6841LadySilverHand.6841 Member ✭✭✭

      @TheRandomGuy.7246 said:
      Night Mode Pro works good enough. f7c603f27e.png

      @Donari.5237 said:

      @MithranArkanere.8957 said:
      When everything else fails, there's browser addons to forcefully turn any site into "night mode" like "Dark Mode" or that reduce the brightness like "Turn Off the Lights" for Firefox.

      Does that work for only specific web pages? I don't want to change what my other sites look like, just this one.

      Just installed Night Mode Pro myself, and you can turn it on and off for individual pages. Works very well.

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    • Alimar.8760Alimar.8760 Member ✭✭✭
      edited September 12, 2017

      @Gaile Gray.6029 said:
      About uploading personal avatars: That is something we are not planning to implement, as (1) we cannot host images here for security purposes and (2) allowing the linking to off-site images can create... er... problems when the images are self-chosen but, perhaps, not self-moderated. That's my attempt at putting things subtly, but do you get what I'm saying there? The ability to link to images on third-party sites can lead to poor choices, like Balthazar in a bubble bath, dogs and cats living together, Faren in a speedo... oh wait... ;)

      Anyway, to keep things on an even keel, we're going to host avatars, but we'll definitely look into expanding the choices in the future!!

      Yes, please do expand avatars. A few ideas would be:
      Guild Emblems
      In Game Faction Emblems
      Character Portraits (Either of NPC's or even possibly character portraits of our account.)

      I would love a picture of my guardian with his aviators to use in the forums.

    • devi.9863devi.9863 Member ✭

      These new forums do look really sweet. I really hope in the future we can use our in-game avatars as icons, but I totally understand from a security standpoint if they don't allow off-site pictures or hosting themselves. Maybe eventually something in the form of the API can include our characters.

    • Ashantara.8731Ashantara.8731 Member ✭✭✭✭
      edited September 12, 2017

      Quick feedback:
      1. Black background and white text is just as bad for the eyes as a white blackground with dark text (good thing the text is gray, not black, because that is less of a contrast and thus better for the eyes).
      2. Ideal would be if the background had grey grain added or was a little darker (light grey, for instance).
      3. I like the new sections, much tidier now.
      4. The avatars are too blurry, please replace with HD versions.
      5. Make it possible to link to a specific post via anchor.
      6. The generally large layout is not my thing, especially since web designers can add a function that detects what kind of a device you are using. Mobile device = larger layout (higher readability), PC monitors = smaller layouts (or else there is too much unneccessary scrolling).
      7. Please remove the thumbs-down feature. That invites animosity.

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    • Shikigami.4013Shikigami.4013 Member ✭✭✭
      edited September 12, 2017

      @Gaile Gray.6029 said:
      In relation to switching the forums from white to black, that would require a substantial amount of work, and it's not something that we are planning. We saw the same request when the original forums launched, but they seemed to do ok with the one iteration, and we're intending to stay with that for the foreseeable future.

      Actually I believe people who were annoyed were not at all doing ok but rather used third-party addons which made the old forums dark.
      Like this: https://userstyles.org/styles/76247/dark-gw2-forums
      I hope we will get a similar addon for the new forums so that once again we won't "burn our eyeballs". Not having a light and dark theme nowadays seems a bit sloppy though, sorry. It is not that difficult to provide.

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    • Loren Michael.7891Loren Michael.7891 Member ✭

      i'm honestly content with the choices we've been given, considering we've been asking for updated (ahem, not broken) forums for literally 5 years.

    • shadow.6174shadow.6174 Member ✭✭
      edited September 12, 2017

      @Gaile Gray.6029 said:
      In relation to switching the forums from white to black, that would require a substantial amount of work, and it's not something that we are planning. We saw the same request when the original forums launched, but they seemed to do ok with the one iteration, and we're intending to stay with that for the foreseeable future.

      Hmm, while I agree it requires some work, it may not be that much of work. By using a well structured CSS it can be implemented in a reasonable time. In fact, even with client-side changes and some plug-ins/add-ons like Stylish it's possible to achieve that.

      I understand the staff can be with a huge load of work at the moment with the expansion and now this forum rework, but disregarding such feature at all by assuming it's "too much work" or "not possible" sound just as "laziness" or lack of personal resource to maintain the system. Not implementing it right now it's understandable, but simply forgetting it for good is unreasonable. Oh well...

    • MrFayth.3546MrFayth.3546 Member ✭✭

      Dark Mode for Firefox doesn't do too bad

    • Piogre.2164Piogre.2164 Member ✭✭

      OP, you can use Stylebot to set your own custom CSS for websites you visit.

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    • Fornax.7928Fornax.7928 Member ✭✭

      Is it possible for the forum to have a selection of images hosted by Anet, which we can use to add flare to our posts.
      For example, I just posted a link to a lore video related to Glint. It would be lovely if there were a stock image here of Glint, which i could insert into my post to make it more visually pleasing.
      A gallery of main story line characters with vanity shots of the Tyria and its general inheritance would be very very welcome. <3

    • Tesla Eot.1469Tesla Eot.1469 Member ✭✭

      For dark background anywhere on the web use Firefox >> get add on: dark background and light text

      You can customize colors and if it bugs a page out you can 1 click to disable on that page.

    • Aenaos.8160Aenaos.8160 Member ✭✭✭

      For black background on Firefox,I use Dark Mode.
      The forums look a lot better with the dark theme.

    • Shikigami.4013Shikigami.4013 Member ✭✭✭
      edited September 12, 2017

      @Tesla Eot.1469 said:
      For dark background anywhere on the web [...]

      That is the problem here. The addons which were mentioned by you and others work everywhere or cause you additional work by forcing you to click something or use a hotkey to enable/disable them. I do not want that. The addon I linked works by just changing the old forum and leaving the rest of the web alone. It was a one-time install five years ago and it worked since then and you literally never had to do anything at all. I really hope the maker of that style (Dyroc) is still around and reads this thread :)

      YouTube “L2villagejester”.
      People using belittling wording like whining/qqing" are not taken seriously by me
      Same for people posting only to tell others not to post (“deal with it”-posts)

    • Tesla Eot.1469Tesla Eot.1469 Member ✭✭

      I really liked the dark background after getting used to it, so I started using it everywhere. It's great and easier on the eyes, esp. at night. It has only bugged out gw2skills.net website; that's why I mentioned the bug part. I never used the addon you mentioned or spent that much time on the forums, but I get your point.

    • Firebird Gomer.9563Firebird Gomer.9563 Member ✭✭

      @Gaile Gray.6029 said:
      In relation to switching the forums from white to black, that would require a substantial amount of work, and it's not something that we are planning. We saw the same request when the original forums launched, but they seemed to do ok with the one iteration, and we're intending to stay with that for the foreseeable future.

      There is actually something wrong with the colours on the new forum site. The old site I could stare at and read for hours. its been like 30 mins since I started reading the new forums and my eyes hurt and I seem to be getting a headache.

    • Ashantara.8731Ashantara.8731 Member ✭✭✭✭

      @Gaile Gray.6029 said:
      In relation to switching the forums from white to black, that would require a substantial amount of work, and it's not something that we are planning. We saw the same request when the original forums launched, but they seemed to do ok with the one iteration, and we're intending to stay with that for the foreseeable future.

      I suggest your web designers simply add a simple grey grain tile PNG. That would reduce the issue of severe contrast and would be kinder on the eyes. It's quickly done, too. :)

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    • Razor.9872Razor.9872 Member ✭✭✭

      @Gaile Gray.6029 said:
      In relation to switching the forums from white to black, that would require a substantial amount of work, and it's not something that we are planning. We saw the same request when the original forums launched, but they seemed to do ok with the one iteration, and we're intending to stay with that for the foreseeable future.

      Perhaps I don't know as much as I think I do, but wouldn't the website designers only need to create a "dark" CSS file and have a button in your account options turn the CSS pathing on and off it? That shouldn't be too hard.

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    • shadow.6174shadow.6174 Member ✭✭

      @Razor.9872 said:

      @Gaile Gray.6029 said:
      In relation to switching the forums from white to black, that would require a substantial amount of work, and it's not something that we are planning. We saw the same request when the original forums launched, but they seemed to do ok with the one iteration, and we're intending to stay with that for the foreseeable future.

      Perhaps I don't know as much as I think I do, but wouldn't the website designers only need to create a "dark" CSS file and have a button in your account options turn the CSS pathing on and off it? That shouldn't be too hard.

      Yep, basically that.

    • Cronos.6532Cronos.6532 Member ✭✭✭
      edited September 13, 2017

      @Gaile Gray.6029 said:
      About uploading personal avatars: That is something we are not planning to implement, as (1) we cannot host images here for security purposes and (2) allowing the linking to off-site images can create... er... problems when the images are self-chosen but, perhaps, not self-moderated. That's my attempt at putting things subtly, but do you get what I'm saying there? The ability to link to images on third-party sites can lead to poor choices, like Balthazar in a bubble bath, dogs and cats living together, Faren in a speedo... oh wait... ;)

      Anyway, to keep things on an even keel, we're going to host avatars, but we'll definitely look into expanding the choices in the future!!

      The black silhouette at the top of the old forums always made me think there should be a feature in-game to save your character's current look as your forum avatar. The game already automatically generates head snapshots for dialogue, including of the player character, that could be used exactly for this purpose.

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    • zealex.9410zealex.9410 Member ✭✭✭✭

      @Gaile Gray.6029 said:
      In relation to switching the forums from white to black, that would require a substantial amount of work, and it's not something that we are planning. We saw the same request when the original forums launched, but they seemed to do ok with the one iteration, and we're intending to stay with that for the foreseeable future.

      Im sorry but what i took from this was "we know that this was a request since the og forum, but we ignored it when making the new forum and we dont intent to add it"

      The new design isnt bad and the extra options are kinda neat but it legit hurts my eyes to stay long periods of time. A dark mode would be a good sent.

    • PookieDaWombat.6209PookieDaWombat.6209 Member ✭✭✭

      Quick suggestion: It was mentioned elsewhere, but I wanted to do so here as well. I just installed Night Mode Pro for Chrome and it works well. My eyes are not dying every time I load up the forum now and it makes it very easy to read things now.

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    • StinVec.3621StinVec.3621 Member ✭✭✭✭
      edited September 13, 2017

      I spent a bit modifying my old 'Dark' Stylish theme for the new forums to get rid of bloated empty space (margins, padding), as well as altered some text sizes, colors, background and quoted block colors.

      Used uBlock to hide some elements as well, so will likely hide them using the theme instead at some point (hid side panel images and footer).

      I still have several tweaks that need to be done on it to resolve some weird background/text color issues, as well as alter the banner graphic, but this is where I'm at right now on updating it if anyone else wants to use it and alter it for their preference.

      https://imgur.com/a/3WKKO

      @-moz-document domain("en-forum.guildwars2.com") {
      body
      {
      background: #333333 !important;
      color: white;
      text-shadow: black 0.1em 0.1em 0.1em !important;
      }

      textarea#Form_Body.InputBox.TextBox.BodyBox.js-bodybox.js-bodybox.textarea-autosize
      {
      height:auto;
      min-height: 400px;
      resize:vertical;
      }

      a.Permalink time
      {
      color: red !important;
      }

      h1
      {
      color: #ffffff !important;
      }

      div.Message
      {
      color: #ffffff !important;
      line-height: 1.3 !important;
      }

      blockquote.Quote, blockquote.UserQuote
      {
      background: #000 !important;
      }

      a.Username
      {
      color: red !important;
      }

      div#CategoryGroup-news-info.CategoryGroup.Category-news-info
      {
      margin-bottom: 0px;
      }

      div#CategoryGroup-support.CategoryGroup.Category-support
      {
      margin-bottom: 0px;
      }

      div#CategoryGroup-game-discussion.CategoryGroup.Category-game-discussion
      {
      margin-bottom: 0px;
      }

      div.PromotedContent
      {
      margin-bottom: 0px;
      }

      .Item td
      {
      padding-top: 0px;
      padding-bottom: 0px;
      }

      tbody a
      {
      font-size: 16px !important;
      }

      }

      Or if you just want a quick extension, the black/green image on the link is the 'Simple night Mode' extension for FF that you enable on the browser by right-clicking a page and enabling it - again to disable. It's a really quick and easy one to use to apply night mode on all pages and sites.

      WOW - Done with forums for good now! - Someone creates a thread about Pharus's light on crit effect asking if it is a bug - I get warned for being "off topic" for commenting how to use the search and pointing out threads discussing Pharus and it being an intended effect... Goodbye all. Happy gaming.

    • Heimskarl Ashfiend.9582Heimskarl Ashfiend.9582 Member ✭✭✭✭

      Yup, Night Mode Pro is awesome!

    • drkn.3429drkn.3429 Member ✭✭

      Black text on white background is the least straining on eyes ♥

    • mazut.4296mazut.4296 Member ✭✭✭

      Not only black, give at least few options. Black is to contrasted, I prefer some pastel tones!

    • StinVec.3621StinVec.3621 Member ✭✭✭✭

      Updated it some more to remove anything left that was white or annoying. Also altered a few more text colors and text box backgrounds in some situations.
      (Use FF, install Stylish, click to write a new style within stylish tab, paste the code from below and save.)

      @-moz-document domain("en-forum.guildwars2.com") {

/* Main page background and text colors */
body
{
  background: #333333 !important;
  color: white;
  text-shadow: black 0.1em 0.1em 0.1em !important;
}

/* Comment text box background color */
textarea#Form_Body.InputBox.TextBox.BodyBox.js-bodybox.js-bodybox.textarea-autosize
{
  background: #9b9b9b;
  min-height: 300px;
}

/* Comment Preview text box background color */
div.Preview, div.Preview .Message p
{
  background: #9b9b9b;
}

/* Search page background and text colors */
input#Form_Search, div.HeaderNavSearch form
{
  background-color: #9b9b9b !important;
  color: white !important;
}

/* Avatar Icon Size - default 50px */
img.ProfilePhoto.ProfilePhotoSmall
{
  height: 40px !important;
}

h2.H, a.Selected, h4, h1, div.AdvancedWrap label.Heading, label.CheckBoxLabel, div.P.Inline label, select
{
  color: white !important;
}

h2, h3, a.Permalink time, a.Username
{
  color: red !important;
}

div.Message
{
  color: white !important;
  line-height: 1.3 !important;
}

blockquote.Quote, blockquote.UserQuote
{
  background: black !important;
}

div.PromotedContent, div#CategoryGroup-news-info.CategoryGroup.Category-news-info, div#CategoryGroup-support.CategoryGroup.Category-support, div#CategoryGroup-game-discussion.CategoryGroup.Category-game-discussion
{
  margin-bottom: 0px;
}

.Item td
{
  padding-top: 0px;
  padding-bottom: 0px;
}

tbody a
{
  font-size: 16px !important;
}

div.HeaderBackground, div.Content-art.Content-art--left, div.Content-art.Content-art--right
{
  background: url("") !important;
}

div.Container-bottom
{
  display: none !important;
  visibility: hidden !important;
}

}

      WOW - Done with forums for good now! - Someone creates a thread about Pharus's light on crit effect asking if it is a bug - I get warned for being "off topic" for commenting how to use the search and pointing out threads discussing Pharus and it being an intended effect... Goodbye all. Happy gaming.

    • PookieDaWombat.6209PookieDaWombat.6209 Member ✭✭✭

      @drkn.3429 said:
      Black text on white background is the least straining on eyes ♥

      Since tone is near impossible to tell through text medium, please tell me you're joking right? As I just woke up a little bit ago, I could be wrong and you could just be having a laugh right now and don't actually mean that.

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      Sorrow's Furnace For Life

    • Tanuk.7961Tanuk.7961 Member ✭✭
      edited September 13, 2017

      @Gaile Gray.6029 said:
      In relation to switching the forums from white to black, that would require a substantial amount of work, and it's not something that we are planning. We saw the same request when the original forums launched, but they seemed to do ok with the one iteration, and we're intending to stay with that for the foreseeable future.

      I'm not sure how much substantial work this would require considering if I toggle the reply area to full page there is a itty bitty icon to toggle the lights which does turn the background from white to black. So it is already there, can't it be turned "on" for the entire forum?

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