Dayra.7405 Posted May 28, 2018 Share Posted May 28, 2018 @LetoII.3782 said:@Dayra.7405 said:@Threather.9354 said:Nothing wrong with BB, their guilds play too early to play in NA (NA prime is like 3 hours after they end) thus they're spanish and too late in EU to face anything much.This would fit Argentinia which is (like Brazil) GMT-3, while USA is mostly GMT-5 till GMT-8Incorrect.Argentina is fully in -4Ask google it says gmt-3, but Europe has currently summertime so it’s currently -4 to UK/ Portugal and even -5 to CEST as e.g in Spain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ansau.7326 Posted May 28, 2018 Share Posted May 28, 2018 90-95% of BB players are Spaniards, Europeans. The reason of such weird primetime is cultural, everything in Spain happens much later from the beginning of working time to dinner.You can argue and complain as much as you want, the solution is neither in your hands nor in Anet's. Spain has to go back to GMT +0, something is not in the agenda in the near future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemoncurry.2345 Posted May 28, 2018 Share Posted May 28, 2018 @Ansau.7326 said:The reason of such weird primetime is cultural, everything in Spain happens much later from the beginning of working time to dinner.All very true, but while this explains why BBs prime-time is offset from the rest of central-european-player's primetime, it doesn't explain why there is a big blob running around PvDooring at 4 in the morning on a regular basis. This has more to do with a) the commander Threater mentioned in his post above and b) an above average number of players present ingame during a time of the night, where most of their fellow citizens (even in Spain) are catching some zzzz's. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawdler.8521 Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 @Lemoncurry.2345 said:@Ansau.7326 said:The reason of such weird primetime is cultural, everything in Spain happens much later from the beginning of working time to dinner.All very true, but while this explains why BBs prime-time is offset from the rest of central-european-player's primetime, it doesn't explain why there is a big blob running around PvDooring at 4 in the morning on a regular basis. This has more to do with a) the commander Threater mentioned in his post above and b) an above average number of players present ingame during a time of the night, where most of their fellow citizens (even in Spain) are catching some zzzz's. ;) Also prolly cool nights and warm as fuck days. I am in Sweden and I still meld with the chair while gaming daytime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Napo.1230 Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 Yeah I hated getting these guys for weeks at a time.Most of the night team just wanted caps so if you managed a zerg they'd just leave.Nothing to fight till they outnumber 20:1.Awful idea.Terrible server. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hubal.8571 Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 Well, just add my 2 cents to the discussion - you can check on the gw2stats when particular servers have their "prime income time" -chart called Income evolution.For example gw2stats.com/servers/view/4/You can see there, for the red server it starts after midnight on workdays (or sometimes even later - 1AM) and usually ends about 6-7 AM.As far as the clock hours are concerned - in EU, I believe starting from right to left - about from Poland to the Spain - the hours are the same.For Great Britain,Iceland it's one hour difference - in their favour (aka. Midnight in Madrit = 11PM in London). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dayra.7405 Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 Even better page for that:All server ranks per timezone: https://wvwstats.com/timezonesBaruch K & D per timezone: https://wvwstats.com/timezones/2301Only bad on this page: It not totally clear to me which times each of those timezones are :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strider Pj.2193 Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 @Jayden Reese.9542 said:@Inoki.6048 said:@aspirine.5839 said:@"Dayra.7405" said:It‘ ANets fault of course that there is not one Spanish speaking server in NA. Even if there are many more Spanish than English speaking people in the Americas. And many many more Spanish speaking in the Americas than in Europe.But as someone mentioned here, alliances could solve that. :/ Hi,I think there's far too many servers and population, presumably due to the state of the game, is on decline,If they plan on doing something hopefully it will be done soon.Link the most recent pop chart not something from idk when. ar bp is not medThe thread was necro’d from May 28, 2018. Your quote is from 2018. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurencius.9258 Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 Just boycott WVW whenever BB is playing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subversiontwo.7501 Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 Of course it is not primarily on the people on BB, it is primarily on Anet for making scoring algorithms that reward people for stacking a server rather than making scoring algorithms that reward people for spreading out. This problem exists in every timezone and every region. It just becomes all the more appearant in the typical off timezones of a region. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrHome.1920 Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 @Laurencius.9258 said:Just boycott WVW whenever BB is playing.Meanwhile the server is dead. We were matched against them last week and their eb keep was held t3 by fsp every single night and morning, which is not surprising because a lot of former bb players transfered to international servers during the last few months (particularly fsp, which facerolls bb now at night). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
primatos.5413 Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 Now the server never set to "full" became a link .. gfj !! :D They better get this alliance thing live next three months otherwise no one can take this eternal joke srs anymore :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawdler.8521 Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 @KrHome.1920 said:@Laurencius.9258 said:Just boycott WVW whenever BB is playing.Meanwhile the server is dead. We were matched against them last week and their eb keep was held t3 by fsp every single night and morning, which is not surprising because a lot of former bb players transfered to international servers during the last few months (particularly fsp, which facerolls bb now at night).Meanwhile, Baruch Bay is currently leading its matchup and the reason for that has been high tick during the night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kamikharzeeh.8016 Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 baruch is pretty okay after all, at least their composition before the relink was. their late prime surely is a bit difficult, but they've had many groups full with randoms, probably playing fun builds. which made them pushable in many cases.you cannot really blame the server on playing late, since the system simply let's you do that. i'd also see no real out for this. i mean gosh, we let americans play on EU servers... plus what if there are people working on non-standard jobs who can only either play during the night, or after prime? limiting the playable hours would be unreasonably unfair to those players.and the worst argument is to act as if winning a matchups gives anything, bc that is exactly not the case. prestige, maybe, if even? but you get not a single reward, outside of more pepega pips if i understand that correctly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish.2769 Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 The problem with BB (If you see it that way) is that it's the only Spanish National server in the game EU and NA so those who don't speak much English or simply just want to speak their native language went there. The reason they have such a strong night-cap is because they have sleep breaks during the day as it's too hot for them to work and from my understanding (Never properly confirmed) they do have a few South Americans over there which obviously play in a different time-zone to mainland EU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kamikharzeeh.8016 Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 US people are found across all EU servers by now, that's why nighttime is that alive. every high tier server has to have night crews, and some have on purpose apparently recruited US guilds for this.i know some people are bad with english, but it's the only international language of that size that nearly every european is able to speak. at least some basic english is what every primary school of the EU countries teaches their pupils, that's enough for basic talking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buran.3796 Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 @"TheQuickFox.3826" said:Interesting indeed. I was paired against BB a few weeks ago (Ruins of Surma) and indeed in the evening we fairly easily owned BB but late in the night they would always bite back and take our entire EBG zone.Just wondering: Why does BB play late at night en masse?Not so long after the release of the game the most WvW-oriented guilds from Baruch (Seven Instincts, etc.) moved to other servers with similar tastes. The one in which I played for ~4 years moved to Gandara (CORE, faded like two years ago). What remained in BB is mostly PvE guilds which enters in WvW en masse at late hours just interested in harvesting achievements and stuff, and not so much in "fights". They love to take undefended fortress, "roam" in swarms containing the full cap of the map in a single blob and do leave and disband if face strong opposition. They also had some roaming clans (as Order of Shadows, made exclusively from thieves) more slant to ganking than to GvG.So: they as a whole (exceptions do exist) don't chase competitive fights; they like easy karma trains, getting rewards and stuff at low risk, and go back to PvE as soon as they "harvest" the map of collide against fierce enemies. Also people is very active in late nigth in Spain due their GMT and cultural manners. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkpile.7439 Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 Annoying server. Huge guilds run with map blob in EB. Ruin all fights. Guilds should play in obsidian sanctum. :# Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheQuickFox.3826 Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 I usually play at night after reset and whenever we're paired against Baruch Bay, they come to conquer everything in the night with numbers we cannot defend against, causing us to lose T3 structures without standing any chance to defend against it.This is not an exception. This happens every night. With 5 players we cannot defend against a full blob with golems. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DemonSeed.3528 Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 They are only ever active around 11pm-4'ish am server time - outside of that they are terrible because they do not have any numbers at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LetoII.3782 Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 Ah, I remember 2018.No virus, Trump antics more funny than scary... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anduriell.6280 Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 @"DemonSeed.3528" said:They are only ever active around 11pm-4'ish am server time - outside of that they are terrible because they do not have any numbers at all. They still don't have numbers during the night, it's just one commander and half squad. That commander does not fight, only plays for the karma train, so always gathers a group of bot alike players. During the day they have more people but no commanders, commanders in BB are pretty bad and some even very toxic berating players constantly in discord or TS, so most don't like playing for the squad.That's why you don't find good fights against that server. Is not the people, the server lacks good commanders who can lift the good will from the server. To nullify their "tactic" you only need an small squad with good players and keep fighting that commander. Add him as a friend so you can see the map he is in.You will be farming bags all night. And that night shift commander will get pretty mad as he doesn't like to lose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ovalkvadratcylinder.9365 Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 the premise of this thread would have any flatearther turned instantly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qaju.2058 Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 I'm not gonna comp main that there's a server that offers night time action. As a night owl roamer they provide funny moments. Sure they might not be on par pound for pound (to put it lightly), but I give them the benefit of the doubt. Most of em play from across the ocean with 200-300ms ping. T3 objectives flip over do many times day or night it's fine. Just give it your best each time trying to repel them. It makes for Fort Alamo moments on repeat ^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snh.7091 Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 So the most sensible question to ask given the circumstances is why haven’t ANet moved the server to the NA category of servers?Some other things to do:Merge low population serversImprove server latency by looking at the many passives that cause a heavy loadAdd news mapsChange existing ones, possibly in line with the story to make it more interesting for new people to joinLook at areas of improvement, think about possibly making underwater combat a fresh new experience There’s so much that could be done that could improve gameplay, but no. Let’s just add a new skin every week. I see it as them being unable to see the bigger picture, and they seem quite shortsighted in terms of revenue. It’s all just “money, now!”, aka gem store skins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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