Gear concern due to patch and some suggestions

[Swagger.1459]

We all know that major changes to professions are starting, and I’d like for the dev team to seriously consider looking at improved ways of gearing up and transmutation methods going forward. Examples from this thread...

https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/discussion/71738/profession-development-path-forward-proposals

Quote...

10- Part of the build fun is experimenting with different gears, so maybe look at reducing/shaving off some of the requirements to crafting gears, obtaining gears through gameplay and for transmuting gears… And look at some overall improvements for players to gear up... Things like...

• Jeweler 500 with Ascended Trinket crafting.

• https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/discussion/44466/would-be-great-to-have-stat-changing-on-all-trinkets

• https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/discussion/61408/ideas-new-ascended-gear-set-improved-core-ascended-stats-new-craftable-infusions

• https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/discussion/62550/more-ways-to-obtain-spirit-shards-and-laurels

• https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/discussion/63145/important-ideas-balance-changes-gear-and-players

• https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/discussion/66248/veteran-reward-system

[DemonSeed.3528]

I'm ok with decreased costs or methods of acquiring - for trinkets, back, wep, armor. What makes WvW mode interesting is testing every single combination and also coming up with your own flavour outside of meta or running around with a gimmick build for more challenge. Of course people who have everything will object to it, but we should also think of the new players who have 0 and are also commiting to this game mode more than the others. The time spent in WvW should be spent getting better at playing instead of being gated behind stuff that just frustrates them. Get those players geared as quick as possible so they enjoy the mode. Well, I should say not just for new people but everyone in general. Getting exo wep with selectable stats should also be considered, outside of the skirmish vendor prices which may be high for some that are starting. For the time people invest in WvW, asc armor/wep should drop as frequent as they do in fractals.

[devastoscz.9851]

Getting Exotics is incredibly easy in this game, which is enough to get started in WvW; there is no need for new players to get ascended gear as handouts. Min/maxing is a huge part of this game since we don't have increased level caps and limited gear tiers.

And I don't say that out of spite, I'm considering the entire game economy and the fact that getting ascended gear is a major part of the sense of progression in this game. If you just make it 'drop like in fractals' (which you have to have at least one ascended set for, on top of AR, on top of T4 unlocked to have any real chance of dropping it) then you will exhaust the progression for those players very very quickly. Perhaps even too fast to learn the intricacies of their classes.

In short, you're not doing them any favors.

[ArchonWing.9480]

You can easily get stat changable trinkets from the wvw vendor. Instead of using the wvw currency to change stats, you can get it for pvp currency (just buy it-- no pvp required). It's about 1g to change all mist trinkets statwise.

What they should do is like, double the amount of grandmaster mark shards that are given every week. It's quite pitiful as it is atm, and don't even think of crafting them, because they are not even better than crafting it conventionally and often worse.

I also think every reward track should reward one grandmaster mark.

If you already have ascended gear, this is a non-issue since the rest can be stat changed. If you're still using exotic trinklets/weapons and you've been playing for a while, you're either doing something very wrong or this is like your 6-7th character.

[Swagger.1459]

You peeps have to consider that players may need, or have a desire, to change gears given the vastness of the patch. It’s not “cheap” to transmute gear sets and various trinkets cannot be transmuted. WvW infusions cannot be transmuted at all.

Overall I like the gearing up system, but it could use a review. Especially in the transmutation area, and especially with the changes starting to roll in over time.

[borgs.6103]

The hardest to "stat switch" is Diviner's because if you're not saving up those Serpentine Jewels, you can only switch an equipment once a day because of the time gate and account-bound nature of it.The most expensive is Minstrels with the cost of Freshwater Pearls.You can use the Bloody Ruby trinkets for Backpacks, a Ring and an Amulet for a very cheap stat switch. For the rest, use the Mist Trinkets. You can buy the Mist trinkets with Skirmish Tickets, PVP Tickets, or even Pristine Relics.

It's really not that hard if you put effort.

[Swagger.1459]

@"borgs.6103" said:The hardest to "stat switch" is Diviner's because if you're not saving up those Serpentine Jewels, you can only switch an equipment once a day because of the time gate and account-bound nature of it.The most expensive is Minstrels with the cost of Freshwater Pearls.You can use the Bloody Ruby trinkets for Backpacks, a Ring and an Amulet for a very cheap stat switch. For the rest, use the Mist Trinkets. You can buy the Mist trinkets with Skirmish Tickets, PVP Tickets, or even Pristine Relics.

It's really not that hard if you put effort.

You are missing the big points.

And I'd like to inform you that I have like 400 individual pieces of ascended gear, full raid leg armor, leg back piece, all but 1 leg trinket and 18 leg weapons.

[borgs.6103]

@Swagger.1459 said:

@"borgs.6103" said:The hardest to "stat switch" is Diviner's because if you're not saving up those Serpentine Jewels, you can only switch an equipment once a day because of the time gate and account-bound nature of it.The most expensive is Minstrels with the cost of Freshwater Pearls.You can use the Bloody Ruby trinkets for Backpacks, a Ring and an Amulet for a very cheap stat switch. For the rest, use the Mist Trinkets. You can buy the Mist trinkets with Skirmish Tickets, PVP Tickets, or even Pristine Relics.

It's really not that hard if you put effort.

You are missing the big points.

And I'd like to inform you that I have like 400 individual pieces of ascended gear, full raid leg armor, leg back piece, all but 1 leg trinket and 18 leg weapons.

Yeah. My bad. I'm all for it. I've always have this uneasy feeling that the WvW community didn't have an outrage that Diviner's can't be stat-swapped to if you only play WvW. I guess because it was never meta? We'll see when the patch hits. My guess is probably nothing will change and this issue will just be overshadowed by the sea of salt from the nerfs.

And weird flex on your gear, but okay!

[Swagger.1459]

@borgs.6103 said:

@Swagger.1459 said:

@borgs.6103 said:The hardest to "stat switch" is Diviner's because if you're not saving up those Serpentine Jewels, you can only switch an equipment once a day because of the time gate and account-bound nature of it.The most expensive is Minstrels with the cost of Freshwater Pearls.You can use the Bloody Ruby trinkets for Backpacks, a Ring and an Amulet for a very cheap stat switch. For the rest, use the Mist Trinkets. You can buy the Mist trinkets with Skirmish Tickets, PVP Tickets, or even Pristine Relics.

It's really not that hard if you put effort.

You are missing the big points.

And I'd like to inform you that I have like 400 individual pieces of ascended gear, full raid leg armor, leg back piece, all but 1 leg trinket and 18 leg weapons.

Yeah. My bad. I'm all for it. I've always have this uneasy feeling that the WvW community didn't have an outrage that

Diviner's

can't be stat-swapped to

if you only play WvW. I guess because it was never meta? We'll see when the patch hits. My guess is probably nothing will change and this issue will just be overshadowed by the sea of salt from the nerfs.

And weird flex on your gear, but okay!

That wasn't a "flex", that was a clarification bc you wrote "It's really not that hard if you put effort."

If someone needs to change gears bc of the super patch it can be annoying and drain game resources and currencies to do so. You also cannot transmute certain gears, like trinkets and back items that costs a player various combinations of golds, mats, laurels... and time. Transmuting also gobbles up spirit shards and that's a time played based resource, and laurels are a log in resource... WvW infusions, that you can't transmute, either costs laurels or laurels and tix. WvW trinkets cost tix and mem of battle... "Costs" add up, and it's not clean cut when looking at totals.

[Swagger.1459]

Hypothetical... Player bought a full set of ascended trinkets with laurels, which cost 180 laurels and 100 ectos. Massive patch changes things. Player is not happy and maybe stuck now with subpar stats from gear that was time gated and took 3 months of daily log -ins to get. Player cannot trade-in that laurel gear or transmute...

So do we have the devs tell that player... "too bad. oh well.", or do we ask the devs to maybe review gearing up, and stuff, considering the massive patch that will be the starting point of big changes in the future?

[Voltekka.2375]

@"Swagger.1459" said:Hypothetical... Player bought a full set of ascended trinkets with laurels, which cost 180 laurels and 100 ectos. Massive patch changes things. Player is not happy and maybe stuck now with subpar stats from gear that was time gated and took 3 months of daily log -ins to get. Player cannot trade-in that laurel gear or transmute...

So do we have the devs tell that player... "too bad. oh well.", or do we ask the devs to maybe review gearing up, and stuff, considering the massive patch that will be the starting point of big changes in the future?

Are we talking about a wvw player, here? Cause trinkets are too easy to obtain via reward tracks. So, hypothetically, player has the option to a) have saved a LOT of LS3-ls4 mats and buy whatever new stats they want or b)ignore the meta moronic thingie and play with the same stats till they can farm what they need. Gearing up is too easy, plenty of wvw selectable stat armors (exotic), trinkets through map currencies (reward tracks). So, yes, much like in pve where raiders NEED the latest meta stats for some specific builds, it is a "Ah, too bad, oh well" case. In wvw, till the dust settles, people can farm armor boxes, currencies, materials.

[Swagger.1459]

Some of you are missing the points entirely...

First off, please stop posting ways for me to get gear. I have gear. 400+ ascended pieces. Full raid leg armor. Leg back. Leg trinkets minus 1. 18 leg weapons... I know how to get gear, that’s not the point of the post...

Dev are starting a massive overhaul to professions. I’m simply asking to review old gearing up methods, review transmutation costs and requesting that players be able to transmute all gears non-transmutable currently... All in an effort to help cushion the potential blows to players. And please pay attention... There are gears, that players may have acquired, that CANNOT be transmuted... and that is a problem. Players CANNOT transmute wvw and other infusions either... Costs and mats and currencies add up, and so do transmutation costs... It’s not FREE of resources to transmute whatever gear you can transmute, and it’s crappy to not being able to transmute some gears...

Pay attention here... These are the potential costs that a player incurred to make a full set of gear... And I’m asking for a better way... and more...

“Additionally, crafting a full set of ascended isn’t exactly cheap...

Average cost to level up crafting to make Ascended gear on a Scholar class…

500 Tailor… 63 Gold500 Artificer… 78 Gold500 Weaponsmith… 95 Gold500 Huntsman… 105 GoldCosts (gold, mats, currencies) to make Dire Ascended gears for a Condi Necro…

https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Ascended_equipment

https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Morbach's_armor

https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Morbach's_Masque

245 Spool of Gossamer Thread20 Pile of Crystalline Dust5 Glob of Dark Matter1 Dire Intricate Gossamer Insignia1 Augur's Stone200 Pile of Bloodstone Dust12 Obsidian Shard100 Thermocatalytic Reagent200 Dragonite Ore200 Empyreal Fragment200 Wool Scrap100 Cotton Scrap200 Linen Scrap9 Glob of Ectoplasm160 Thin Leather Section80 Coarse Leather Section160 Rugged Leather Section1500 Silk Scrap800 Thick Leather SectionTotal cost 38g 89s 60c

https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Morbach's_Epaulets

245 Spool of Gossamer Thread20 Pile of Crystalline Dust5 Glob of Dark Matter1 Dire Intricate Gossamer Insignia1 Augur's Stone200 Pile of Bloodstone Dust12 Obsidian Shard100 Thermocatalytic Reagent200 Dragonite Ore200 Empyreal Fragment200 Wool Scrap100 Cotton Scrap200 Linen Scrap9 Glob of Ectoplasm160 Thin Leather Section80 Coarse Leather Section160 Rugged Leather Section1500 Silk Scrap800 Thick Leather SectionTotal cost 39g 05s 00c

https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Morbach's_Doublet

320 Spool of Gossamer Thread20 Pile of Crystalline Dust5 Glob of Dark Matter1 Dire Intricate Gossamer Insignia1 Augur's Stone500 Pile of Bloodstone Dust30 Obsidian Shard190 Thermocatalytic Reagent500 Dragonite Ore500 Empyreal Fragment320 Wool Scrap160 Cotton Scrap320 Linen Scrap12 Glob of Ectoplasm160 Thin Leather Section80 Coarse Leather Section160 Rugged Leather Section2400 Silk Scrap800 Thick Leather SectionTotal cost 50g 20s 34c

https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Morbach's_Wristguards

245 Spool of Gossamer Thread20 Pile of Crystalline Dust5 Glob of Dark Matter1 Dire Intricate Gossamer Insignia1 Augur's Stone200 Pile of Bloodstone Dust12 Obsidian Shard100 Thermocatalytic Reagent200 Dragonite Ore200 Empyreal Fragment200 Wool Scrap100 Cotton Scrap200 Linen Scrap9 Glob of Ectoplasm160 Thin Leather Section80 Coarse Leather Section160 Rugged Leather Section1500 Silk Scrap800 Thick Leather SectionTotal cost 39g 01s 80c

https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Morbach's_Breeches

320 Spool of Gossamer Thread20 Pile of Crystalline Dust5 Glob of Dark Matter1 Dire Intricate Gossamer Insignia1 Augur's Stone200 Pile of Bloodstone Dust12 Obsidian Shard90 Thermocatalytic Reagent200 Dragonite Ore200 Empyreal Fragment320 Wool Scrap160 Cotton Scrap320 Linen Scrap11 Glob of Ectoplasm2400 Silk Scrap120 Thin Leather Section60 Coarse Leather Section120 Rugged Leather Section600 Thick Leather SectionTotal cost 43g 67s 66c

https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Morbach's_Footwear

245 Spool of Gossamer Thread20 Pile of Crystalline Dust5 Glob of Dark Matter1 Dire Intricate Gossamer Insignia1 Augur's Stone200 Pile of Bloodstone Dust12 Obsidian Shard110 Thermocatalytic Reagent200 Dragonite Ore200 Empyreal Fragment200 Wool Scrap100 Cotton Scrap200 Linen Scrap10 Glob of Ectoplasm200 Thin Leather Section100 Coarse Leather Section200 Rugged Leather Section1500 Silk Scrap1000 Thick Leather SectionTotal cost 43g 14s 48c

https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Morbach's_Cloth_Breather

245 Spool of Gossamer Thread20 Pile of Crystalline Dust5 Glob of Dark Matter1 Dire Intricate Gossamer Insignia1 Augur's Stone200 Pile of Bloodstone Dust12 Obsidian Shard100 Thermocatalytic Reagent200 Dragonite Ore200 Empyreal Fragment200 Wool Scrap100 Cotton Scrap200 Linen Scrap9 Glob of Ectoplasm160 Thin Leather Section80 Coarse Leather Section160 Rugged Leather Section1500 Silk Scrap800 Thick Leather SectionTotal cost 38g 41s 00c

https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Shadow_of_Grenth

50 Icy Runestone10 Glacial Lodestone1 Augur's Stone600 Wool Scrap300 Cotton Scrap600 Linen Scrap15 Glob of Ectoplasm375 Spool of Gossamer Thread500 Pile of Bloodstone Dust30 Obsidian Shard150 Thermocatalytic Reagent500 Dragonite Ore500 Empyreal Fragment4500 Silk ScrapTotal cost 102g 98s 65c

https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Mathilde's_weapons

https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Mathilde's_Wand

20 Pile of Crystalline Dust360 Thermocatalytic Reagent10 Glob of Dark Matter1 Dire Orichalcum Imbued Inscription1 Augur's Stone500 Pile of Bloodstone Dust30 Obsidian Shard500 Dragonite Ore500 Empyreal Fragment320 Soft Wood Log240 Seasoned Wood Log480 Hard Wood Log11 Glob of Ectoplasm1200 Elder Wood Log270 Iron Ore30 Lump of Coal120 Platinum Ore60 Lump of Primordium300 Mithril OreTotal cost 50g 23s 83c

https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Mathilde's_Herald

20 Pile of Crystalline Dust350 Thermocatalytic Reagent10 Glob of Dark Matter1 Dire Orichalcum Imbued Inscription1 Augur's Stone500 Pile of Bloodstone Dust30 Obsidian Shard500 Dragonite Ore500 Empyreal Fragment200 Soft Wood Log150 Seasoned Wood Log300 Hard Wood Log10 Glob of Ectoplasm450 Iron Ore50 Lump of Coal200 Platinum Ore100 Lump of Primordium750 Elder Wood Log500 Mithril OreTotal cost 43g 90s 38c

https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Mathilde's_Spire

20 Pile of Crystalline Dust370 Thermocatalytic Reagent10 Glob of Dark Matter1 Dire Orichalcum Imbued Inscription1 Augur's Stone500 Pile of Bloodstone Dust30 Obsidian Shard500 Dragonite Ore500 Empyreal Fragment360 Soft Wood Log270 Seasoned Wood Log540 Hard Wood Log12 Glob of Ectoplasm1350 Elder Wood Log270 Iron Ore30 Lump of Coal120 Platinum Ore60 Lump of Primordium300 Mithril OreTotal cost 54g 42s 32c

https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Mathilde's_Impaler

20 Pile of Crystalline Dust360 Thermocatalytic Reagent10 Glob of Dark Matter1 Dire Orichalcum Imbued Inscription1 Augur's Stone500 Pile of Bloodstone Dust30 Obsidian Shard500 Dragonite Ore500 Empyreal Fragment540 Iron Ore60 Lump of Coal240 Platinum Ore120 Lump of Primordium11 Glob of Ectoplasm200 Soft Wood Log150 Seasoned Wood Log300 Hard Wood Log600 Mithril Ore750 Elder Wood LogTotal cost 47g 17s 23c

https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Mathilde's_Trident

20 Pile of Crystalline Dust350 Thermocatalytic Reagent10 Glob of Dark Matter1 Dire Orichalcum Imbued Inscription1 Augur's Stone500 Pile of Bloodstone Dust30 Obsidian Shard500 Dragonite Ore500 Empyreal Fragment450 Iron Ore50 Lump of Coal200 Platinum Ore100 Lump of Primordium10 Glob of Ectoplasm200 Soft Wood Log150 Seasoned Wood Log300 Hard Wood Log500 Mithril Ore750 Elder Wood LogTotal cost 44g 03s 68c

https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Mist_Pendant

260 WvW Skirmish Claim Tickets250 Memories of Battlehttps://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Mist_Band_(Infused)

350 WvW Skirmish Claim Tickets250 Memories of Battlehttps://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Mist_Band_(Infused)

350 WvW Skirmish Claim Tickets250 Memories of Battlehttps://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Mist_Talisman

175 WvW Skirmish Claim Tickets250 Memories of Battlehttps://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Mist_Talisman175 WvW Skirmish Claim Tickets250 Memories of Battlehttps://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/WvW_Skirmish_Claim_Ticket

“The maximum number of WvW Skirmish Claim Tickets that can be obtained in one week, requiring 1450 pips: 365”https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Infusion

Would Take 22 Infusions to complete the build for this gear example…There are two versions of Attribute WvW Infusions, Offensive and Defensive. Both types can be purchased from WvW Laurel Merchants for 5 Laurels PLUS 125 Badges of Honor, or from a Skirmish Supervisor for 45 WvW Skirmish Claim Ticket PLUS 20 Memories of Battle.

So going the Laurel route it would cost 110 Laurels and 2,750 Badges of Honor.Going the WvW Skirmish Claim Ticket route it would cost 990 WvW Skirmish Claim Tickets and 440 Memories of Battle…”

[Cyninja.2954]

@Swagger.1459 said:So going the Laurel route it would cost 110 Laurels and 2,750 Badges of Honor.Going the WvW Skirmish Claim Ticket route it would cost 990 WvW Skirmish Claim Tickets and 440 Memories of Battle…”

Which is 3 weeks of WvW for a players with 0 recources. This is an issue how exactly in a MMORPG?

You have so many people running around complaining they have nothing to do, yet you propose reducing an already short gear grind even further? Seems nonsensical to me.

[Swagger.1459]

@"Cyninja.2954

Well, thanks for not paying attention to the main points and purpose of the post. Good luck!

[Voltekka.2375]

Jatoro set costs 2g off tp. Reward tracks cost next to nothing when you wanna farm trinkets, backpack, rings, amulet. Yes, ascended trinkets. Exotics are dirtcheap on tp. Lets not create a problem when there are many solutions available

[Swagger.1459]

First of all, you’re not paying attention to the main points and that’s obvious. Second, I didn’t say players needed ascended day 1. Third, some gear can’t be transmuted and that’s a loss in currencies and time, which could tee off some. Fourth, there are huge changes, revamps, and nerfs starting, so reevaluating gearing up, costs for gear and how players can change their gears are important... You don’t go nerfing and changing everything and not take player time and investments into gear as a factor to builds.

Good luck and thanks for your feedback!

[Mordayn.6198]

@"Swagger.1459" said:You peeps have to consider that players may need, or have a desire, to change gears given the vastness of the patch. It’s not “cheap” to transmute gear sets and various trinkets cannot be transmuted. WvW infusions cannot be transmuted at all.

Overall I like the gearing up system, but it could use a review. Especially in the transmutation area, and especially with the changes starting to roll in over time.

For trinkets, there are 2 sets you can get that are stat changeable:https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Stat_changing#Trinkets

For back piece:https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Blood_Ruby_Backpack

(Or go with a legendary of which there are 3 in the game. One from WvW one from Spvp, and one from Fractals.)

Armor is really any ascended gear that you get for free as drop boxes or you can craft them.

[Mordayn.6198]

The meta doesn't change that often to be honest and we've all had to change out gear because of it over time. It's a part of this game's end game. You take that away and there's really nothing to build towards. The game already has very little gear progression compared to most MMO. As a side note, you can get 2 full free ascended pick the stats sets of armor doing the achievements in raids. That is worth doing if you have the time and gumption for it.

[Mordayn.6198]

So far as infusions go, you really don't need wvw infusions. They barely make a difference. I've been doing WvW since the game started and i've been running fractal infusions only even in wvw just for the Fractal AR with a few cosmetic infusions for the real end game cosmetics. The stat infusions are just there for another added End Game feature that barely adds any stats really. I've never found it to be worth it. Although i might consider it since i now have 2 legendary sets. Infusions in trinkets can be extracted using the fractal extractor so the only infusions you can really make an argument for are the ones on the armor and weapons to which I'd say runes and sigils are the real cost for doing an ascended gear stat swap.

[Mordayn.6198]

A good progression guide for attaining cheap gear for a new player. Make an exotic set that allows you to pull decent enough dps in raids. Join a guild that does achievements or post pugs in LFG for the achievements you need for the Envoy set. Get the Envoy set. A full set of Ascended gear that is stat select. Stat a dps build that is either berserker for power meta or viper for condi. Start doing fractals and grinding the AR and personal level to be able to do t4. Do your T4 daily and you'll net a lot of free ascended gear boxes over time. About mid way through this climb i'd suggest going the blood ruby set route for your back and accessories. That set with your Envoy armor will give you full ascended stat swap gear but you most likely won't need to use it because this is your fractal gear set anyway and berseker/viper will always be meta. Over time you'll be able to full gear multiple alts using the free armor boxes and trinkets that drop from the t4 daily boxes. Eventually you'll have more gear sets than you can even use.

[ArchonWing.9480]

@Swagger.1459 said:You peeps have to consider that players may need, or have a desire, to change gears given the vastness of the patch. It’s not “cheap” to transmute gear sets and various trinkets cannot be transmuted. WvW infusions cannot be transmuted at all.

Overall I like the gearing up system, but it could use a review. Especially in the transmutation area, and especially with the changes starting to roll in over time.

I also desire all my weapons to be legendaries and about 1000 more AP. That's not how it works. The devs have no guarantee to you that you stay meta. I change stats like every week and have a bunch of useless concentration infusions. C'est la vie. Same reason why gemstore items don't get refunds after a certain point; you've already gained enough use of it over time-- stuff depreciates.

Infusions are an irrelevant part of gearing; it only matters in fractals and certainly not for the stats. It translates to like what? 90 stats and some bonus against guards. Nobody loses fights because they didn't have infusions. Infusions can also be extracted and used elsewhere.

Ascended trinkets are a dime a dozen. You get WvW trinkets from tickets and memories which are gained by just playing it. If you choose to spend ectos on earrings (seriously who does that?) that's your problem. Ectos are cheap and laurels are handed to you anyways, so a non-issue.

And literally every stat can be compensated for with creative gearing. For example, instead of taking diviners you could use boon food or even concentration infusions or cheap harrier gear and make up the precision/ferocity elsewhere. It's the final numbers that matter, not the actual stat names, and most of the ways to min max are pretty cheap. It's highly unlikely most of the exotic stat types have any use in wvw; or really anywhere else.

And it's also not like I didn't say to increase the availbility of grandmaster marks, which I do consider useless as is. That would be a far better help to people than just some silly infusions that nobody needs. In the days of 3s silk and 30s ectos, and no reward tracks I might have had some issue with this, but this is a non issue in this day and age.

[Mordayn.6198]

As a side note while I'm thinking about it. The best way to start building out your ascended sets is to make a DPS set for each weight class since it's sharable. The cheaper route is berserker but you'll get more out of it if you go viper because condi meta is stronger. When i started (pre viper existing) I focused on building 1 set of ascended berserker for each weight class. When viper came out i built 3 sets of viper, one for each weight class. Then I focused on more specific stuff like wvw sets and the like. Keep in mind though. I was running exotics for all of those previous to building the ascended which is more than enough to thrive in the wvw setting.

[Cyninja.2954]

@Swagger.1459 I think players in general will complain, just as you are now, about every little thing. Some of those complaints should be taken seriously, but some would directly damage the game. Itemization, both from scratch as well as stat changing, is very very very generous and short in this game compared to any other competitor in the same genre.

Even if a big balance patch, which is a rare occurrence in this size and scope, is likely forcing some change on players gear does not necessarily require a permanent change to this already very generous system. On the contrary, making permanent changes to the game based on singular events is a very short sighted approach.

For reference, to change 1 item (armor or weapon) in stats you need:

• the original item
• the inscription/insignia of the desired stat combination
• 5 glob of ectoplasm
• 1 Anthology of Heroes (10 spirit shards)
• https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Stat_changing

That amounts to a total cost of less than 5-6 gold, plus the insignia/inscription (if we even assume a value for the spirit shards, given how many players do not convert all their shards). For a best in slot item.

Trinkets are a dime a dozen and get made easier and easier to acquire, most recently the amulet which takes maybe 10 minutes of play on the new Bjora Marches map to acquire the resources required. For people who want to change stats on those there is even slightly more expensive options which can have stats changed.

A final issue on this: any more convenience and legendary items become completely unnecessary since ascended gear would mirror their unique benefit. Multiple ascended sets already outperform legendary gear in the cosmetic department. This is something which would as well damage the longevity of the game.

EDIT: and yes, I did read your entire post the first time. I just did not feel the need to go into detail, once again, on a what I still believe is just another variation of the typical: I want stuff faster, complaints.

[lodjur.1284]

Should only change what currencies are needed for wvw infusion, only timegated ones are terrible. Would vastly prefer to spend a currency that's obtainable in a different way.

[Notsoperky.4291]

@Mordayn.6198 said:A good progression guide for attaining cheap gear for a new player. Make an exotic set that allows you to pull decent enough dps in raids. Join a guild that does achievements or post pugs in LFG for the achievements you need for the Envoy set. Get the Envoy set. A full set of Ascended gear that is stat select. Stat a dps build that is either berserker for power meta or viper for condi. Start doing fractals and grinding the AR and personal level to be able to do t4. Do your T4 daily and you'll net a lot of free ascended gear boxes over time. About mid way through this climb i'd suggest going the blood ruby set route for your back and accessories. That set with your Envoy armor will give you full ascended stat swap gear but you most likely won't need to use it because this is your fractal gear set anyway and berseker/viper will always be meta. Over time you'll be able to full gear multiple alts using the free armor boxes and trinkets that drop from the t4 daily boxes. Eventually you'll have more gear sets than you can even use.

So lots of pve stuff...urgh, yuck.