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Q: With the largest balance patch ever coming out the next few weeks, I wanted to see what the WvW forum community had to think about the meta. Do you think it will change significantly? If so, how do you see zerg composition/classes changing?

Thank you for your thoughts and have a great day!

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  • Zikory.6871Zikory.6871 Member ✭✭✭

    I'm guessing nothing notable changes. Some groups might try condi but in the end it will still be the same Firebrand/Scourge comps. I'll even bet groups will still bring Hammer Herald.

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  • Burnfall.9573Burnfall.9573 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited February 7, 2020

    Toxic Recycle Meta is the correct name for it

    'So, I decided to take a look at condi deadeye.
    And oh my lord, why is this even a thing? All gear is level 80 exotics.
    This build is so hilariously disgusting I can only advise every not to play it, because wow.'

    'Really nobody should be playing this, it's unacceptably [Toxic]'

    'Situations that are present are there because you allow and tolerate them to continue'

  • XenesisII.1540XenesisII.1540 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Strider Pj.2193 said:
    30 thiefs and 5 Mesmers.

    Why mesmers?

  • Strider Pj.2193Strider Pj.2193 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @XenesisII.1540 said:

    @Strider Pj.2193 said:
    30 thiefs and 5 Mesmers.

    Why mesmers?

    Ports. 😜

    Thank You for the {MEME}

  • i wouldn't be surprised at double fbs, especially if that stand your ground nerf goes thru. horrible change imo.

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  • DeadlySynz.3471DeadlySynz.3471 Member ✭✭✭✭

    A lot of Firebrands and a lot of scourges. Not much room for anything else. Any other class will either be a crutch or cannon fodder. Probably see a lot of 3FB & 2 Scourge parties or vice versa. Might see the odd Rev in there for resistance.

  • God.2708God.2708 Member ✭✭✭

    I expect there to be a lot of answers to this, and it would be hard to pin anything definitive, but here are some things I feel comfortable saying.

    1. More than one FB in a party will be very ineffective.
    2. Stacking scourges will not work nearly as well as people think.
    3. Condi will be garbage barring maybe some initial sweeps against people who don't know how to prepare for change.
    4. Power spike will still be necessary.
    5. One pushing isn't going to happen barring extreme outnumbered scenarios or one group being total trash.
  • Thank you all for your responses! Even the memes lol

    Interesting ideas... seems like you guys don't think the meta will be shaken very much with all the power nerfs.

  • ArchonWing.9480ArchonWing.9480 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Read whatever people tell you to do, and do the opposite.

  • @God.2708 You are right that Anet's goal isn't to shake up the meta but instead to bring everything back in line. However, as a side effect, this patch is going to shake things up. My general idea of a part and its support and damage will remain the same but my question is more in line with each classes role. The nerfs across the board will challenge the main meta classes in their respective roles and I think we will see roles taken by different classes. Who knows though!
    Zerg playstyle as you said will be pretty different. I really expect a lot of new classes/roles being tried out and affecting how zergs move, use boons, use conditions, use fields/auras, and time their skills out. It's an exciting time!

  • XenesisII.1540XenesisII.1540 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Strider Pj.2193 said:

    @XenesisII.1540 said:

    @Strider Pj.2193 said:
    30 thiefs and 5 Mesmers.

    Why mesmers?

    Ports. 😜

    30 thieves can port themselves...

  • DanAlcedo.3281DanAlcedo.3281 Member ✭✭✭✭

    FB is still must have.

    Rev still gives boons to 10 targets.

    Support warrior with bubble still very good.

    Scourge still does its job.

    Scrapper still has stealth gyro.

    I could see tempest seeing more play because it still has 10 target auras.

    Staff Thief still has insane 5 target dmg on vault.

    What will change the most are the stats people run.

    FBs will likely use more condition dmg for example.

  • i guess we'll have to wait to watch how it developes; theorycrafting is one thing, but some plans sound better on paper than in field.

  • Bigpapasmurf.5623Bigpapasmurf.5623 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Burnfall.9573 said:
    Toxic Recycle Meta is the correct name for it

    'So, I decided to take a look at condi deadeye.
    And oh my lord, why is this even a thing? All gear is level 80 exotics.
    This build is so hilariously disgusting I can only advise every not to play it, because wow.'

    'Really nobody should be playing this, it's unacceptably [Toxic]'

    How is this built?

    This is what I run when im bored:

    http://gw2skills.net/editor/?PahAQVlFwUYbsDmJO2OrvSA-z1IU8oi/cQFnjIIThQHSgQUACLQF2HHV3A-w

    Your toon is set up differently so im intrigued.

    Red = Dead...or someone runs away. Either way it's gone.
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  • Strider Pj.2193Strider Pj.2193 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Bigpapasmurf.5623 said:

    @Burnfall.9573 said:
    Toxic Recycle Meta is the correct name for it

    'So, I decided to take a look at condi deadeye.
    And oh my lord, why is this even a thing? All gear is level 80 exotics.
    This build is so hilariously disgusting I can only advise every not to play it, because wow.'

    'Really nobody should be playing this, it's unacceptably [Toxic]'

    How is this built?

    This is what I run when im bored:

    http://gw2skills.net/editor/?PahAQVlFwUYbsDmJO2OrvSA-z1IU8oi/cQFnjIIThQHSgQUACLQF2HHV3A-w

    Your toon is set up differently so im intrigued.

    It isn’t Burns toon. Stabitha has a page where they state it’s Dire and Rabid, thorn runes, and the channel has no other info as per their reply ‘it’s too cancer’

    Anything thief is deletable per burn.

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  • Bigpapasmurf.5623Bigpapasmurf.5623 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited February 8, 2020

    @Strider Pj.2193 said:

    @Bigpapasmurf.5623 said:

    @Burnfall.9573 said:
    Toxic Recycle Meta is the correct name for it

    'So, I decided to take a look at condi deadeye.
    And oh my lord, why is this even a thing? All gear is level 80 exotics.
    This build is so hilariously disgusting I can only advise every not to play it, because wow.'

    'Really nobody should be playing this, it's unacceptably [Toxic]'

    How is this built?

    This is what I run when im bored:

    http://gw2skills.net/editor/?PahAQVlFwUYbsDmJO2OrvSA-z1IU8oi/cQFnjIIThQHSgQUACLQF2HHV3A-w

    Your toon is set up differently so im intrigued.

    It isn’t Burns toon. Stabitha has a page where they state it’s Dire and Rabid, thorn runes, and the channel has no other info as per their reply ‘it’s too cancer’

    Anything thief is deletable per burn.

    Dang, mine is cancer (saw someone use it vs me and I got rekt so I wanted to learn how to counter), however the one in the vid seems stronger. Ill have to do come research now

    Edit: Theres 1 aspect of their build I am unsure of, however i believe ive gotten the rest down

    Red = Dead...or someone runs away. Either way it's gone.
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  • YTKafka.4681YTKafka.4681 Member ✭✭
    edited February 8, 2020

    @Burnfall.9573 said:
    Toxic Recycle Meta is the correct name for it
    [Video]

    'So, I decided to take a look at condi deadeye.
    And oh my lord, why is this even a thing? All gear is level 80 exotics.
    This build is so hilariously disgusting I can only advise every not to play it, because wow.'

    'Really nobody should be playing this, it's unacceptably [Toxic]'

    OH kitten WHATTDA WEW DO. Oh I'll just get a Rev and spam Pain Absorption till the gods come home, the dragons are defeated, and the servers shut down.

    Seriously give me those condi stacks cause seriously I'll stand in those poison AoEs. Cause the next time I see you Phase Traversal Permeating Pestilence I'll probably just give them right back. Getton back to power weapons where thieves BELONG.
    /edge

    Sarcasm of course you're just bring boon rips or wait till I swap out of demon.


    No but seriously if we're talking about Revs and the Meta. Rev stability might become more commonly used if Guardian uptime really gets gutted like they probably want it to be. The increase in range from 600 to 900 has been a big boon (ha) to the skill both in terms of damage and usability because if you look at the upcoming notes Dwarf practically avoided nerfs completely.

    Jalis

    Forced Engagement: Reduced power coefficient from 0.5 to 0.01

    Yep that's it. I can also point out that True Nature - Dwarf (F2 Herald w/ Dwarf ) applies 2 (3 traited) stacks of stability. Revs might be running Diviners instead of Berserker's soon enough... (That's not even getting into Increasing boon uptime to counteract the patch, Demon resistance spam share (Maybe base rev even?), Combo-ing well with Renagade for Alacrity to recover skills due to increased CDs. Tons and tons of reasons for Rev still after the patch.)

    Rev is not going ANYWHERE. PERIOD. (Condi or Power Damage is still up in the air. Gotta see how the new Sword 2 vs Nerfed Mace works out.)

    Next Meta: Rev/Her/Ren/Scr/Scr

    Might have gone overboard with the revs and scrappers but those are the ones to watch right now for me.

  • I don't think the composition will change much. I also doubt that the used stats will change much.
    Perhaps guards go less towards concentration and more healers try cleric instead of minstrel...

    We noticed that the number of conditions increased, but at the moment, incoming damage is 80% power damage. The main problem for years was always movement impeding conditions, not damaging ones. Since the cleanse amount is mostly untouched by the patch, the relative amount of condi-dmg goes up, but the absolute stays the same. Especially with the shift from stacks to duration on many skills, there will be little trouble.
    A group with power-scrappers, dmg-spellbreaker, and tempest-supporter will have little trouble against condi builds.

    Regarding Build-Changes, I only know in detail about engineers, but heal- and power-scrappers are mostly untouched (except explosive line).

    The largest impact might actually come from the details.
    Big-hit skills with CC that were nerfed from 3.0 to 0.01 coefficient (e.g. prime-light-beam).
    Other strong skills that are not listed and unchanged (like shredder-gyro or bomb-1).
    In my opinion, these details will have the largest impact on composition and equipment.

    That being said, I think this patch is actually great and will lead to more build diversity, especially at roaming, but also for zergs.

  • I say Hybrid builds and Condi builds will be the meta.

    Necomancer Minionmacer Builds

  • Dawdler.8521Dawdler.8521 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited February 10, 2020

    @pointaction.4639 said:
    I say Hybrid builds and Condi builds will be the meta.

    The latter will be viable for a few weeks until people realize "oh right we still have condi cleanses" and stack up on supports once again while the former will be continously phased over the coming months out as zerg commanders yell "where the kitten is my kitten kittens kitten damage you kitten kittens learn to kitten bomb!" and refuse to command.

    Regarding Build-Changes, I only know in detail about engineers, but heal- and power-scrappers are mostly untouched (except explosive line).

    Ha, no. Alchemy nerfed, tools nerfed, healing nerfed (medkit 1 nerfed, elixir gun 5 nerfed, MDF nerfed, boon conversion duration nerfed). Condi heavily nerfed as well, both pistols (no more 4 burst) and firearms (~50% less durations and damage), but that doesnt affect power and heal scrappers. Hammer nerfed though.

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  • @Dawdler.8521 said:

    Regarding Build-Changes, I only know in detail about engineers, but heal- and power-scrappers are mostly untouched (except explosive line).

    Ha, no. Alchemy nerfed, tools nerfed, healing nerfed (medkit 1 nerfed, elixir gun 5 nerfed, MDF nerfed, boon conversion duration nerfed). Condi heavily nerfed as well, both pistols (no more 4 burst) and firearms (~50% less durations and damage), but that doesnt affect power and heal scrappers. Hammer nerfed though.

    Sorry, I didn't express myself correctly. While the traits and skills are nerfed the builds stay mostly the same. You still run purity of purpose, despite the shorter boons.
    In the end, you will pick the same traits, skills, and equipment (except those that went for blast-gyro) after the patch. And since most nerfs are average compared to other classes, the composition will also not likely change... tools are also not really nerfed in our case since we run lense+steamlined+gadgeteer(mines).
    Cleanses stayed mostly the same interestingly... also shredder-gyro, Bandage-self, and vital-burst was not touched...

  • Seffen.2875Seffen.2875 Member ✭✭✭

    i'll concentrate on the guardian changes, because they are the ones i can say most about.

    Several things got gutted. Damage scaling on most of the weapons. The staffs healing and might application. Healing in general and boon application. I would roughly estimate that Guardian loses about 50 % of its healing.

    Now it completely depends on how engeneer and Elemental are treated healingwise. they also got a bit tuned down but may still be stronger healwise.

    One thing will happen for sure: The skill ceiling of guarding will rise. it will rise to pre pof levels, and even above. If your guard is bad, your whole group will suffer badly. I think a lot of people underestimate how forgiving guardian is right now and how effectiv you still are, even if you suck. The gap between good and bad will widen by a huge margin.

    Healing will lose some overall effectiveness in comparison too other tools. Guardian is not that much affected by that because litereally all his other stats got gutted as well.
    But it is quite possible, that healing power wont be main stat anymore.
    But neither will power due to reduced scalings but rather precision. I expect something pretty wild mixes, probably celestial making a big comeback.
    Staff will be dropped as a weapon.
    Mace and shield will stay because they literelly kept all their healing. probably Greatsword again for some spiking.

    Ult Mantra will stay, as will stand your ground. and the cleansing mantra, Merciful intervention will be dropped. Purging will make a comeback, not touched at all.

    Contemplation of purity will be of more interest as well.

    But we will see.

  • double cele radiance fb's gogogo

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  • RisenHowl.2419RisenHowl.2419 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Stand The Wall.6987 said:
    double cele radiance fb's gogogo

    There's so many better ways to gear fb than Cele man....

  • @RisenHowl.2419 said:

    @Stand The Wall.6987 said:
    double cele radiance fb's gogogo

    There's so many better ways to gear fb than Cele man....

    k.

    Te lazla otstara.

  • reddie.5861reddie.5861 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Strider Pj.2193 said:

    @XenesisII.1540 said:

    @Strider Pj.2193 said:
    30 thiefs and 5 Mesmers.

    Why mesmers?

    Ports. 😜

    30 thiefs means 150 ports if needed.. and all 150 ports will come out in stealth so i guess these mesmers are quite useless :D

  • Ubi.4136Ubi.4136 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Bigpapasmurf.5623 said:

    @Strider Pj.2193 said:

    @Bigpapasmurf.5623 said:

    @Burnfall.9573 said:
    Toxic Recycle Meta is the correct name for it

    'So, I decided to take a look at condi deadeye.
    And oh my lord, why is this even a thing? All gear is level 80 exotics.
    This build is so hilariously disgusting I can only advise every not to play it, because wow.'

    'Really nobody should be playing this, it's unacceptably [Toxic]'

    How is this built?

    This is what I run when im bored:

    http://gw2skills.net/editor/?PahAQVlFwUYbsDmJO2OrvSA-z1IU8oi/cQFnjIIThQHSgQUACLQF2HHV3A-w

    Your toon is set up differently so im intrigued.

    It isn’t Burns toon. Stabitha has a page where they state it’s Dire and Rabid, thorn runes, and the channel has no other info as per their reply ‘it’s too cancer’

    Anything thief is deletable per burn.

    Dang, mine is cancer (saw someone use it vs me and I got rekt so I wanted to learn how to counter), however the one in the vid seems stronger. Ill have to do come research now

    Edit: Theres 1 aspect of their build I am unsure of, however i believe ive gotten the rest down

    The "1 thing" you are missing is they 2v1 every fight. There is a second deadeye playing anything, cause you should win every 2v1.

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  • Strider Pj.2193Strider Pj.2193 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @reddie.5861 said:

    @Strider Pj.2193 said:

    @XenesisII.1540 said:

    @Strider Pj.2193 said:
    30 thiefs and 5 Mesmers.

    Why mesmers?

    Ports. 😜

    30 thiefs means 150 ports if needed.. and all 150 ports will come out in stealth so i guess these mesmers are quite useless :D

    Shhhh... Don’t ruin my image of death being rained from all around...

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  • Acheron.4731Acheron.4731 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Dawdler.8521 said:

    @pointaction.4639 said:
    I say Hybrid builds and Condi builds will be the meta.

    The latter will be viable for a few weeks until people realize "oh right we still have condi cleanses" and stack up on supports once again while the former will be continously phased over the coming months out as zerg commanders yell "where the kitten is my kitten kittens kitten damage you kitten kittens learn to kitten bomb!" and refuse to command.

    Regarding Build-Changes, I only know in detail about engineers, but heal- and power-scrappers are mostly untouched (except explosive line).

    Ha, no. Alchemy nerfed, tools nerfed, healing nerfed (medkit 1 nerfed, elixir gun 5 nerfed, MDF nerfed, boon conversion duration nerfed). Condi heavily nerfed as well, both pistols (no more 4 burst) and firearms (~50% less durations and damage), but that doesnt affect power and heal scrappers. Hammer nerfed though.

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  • The meta is not going to change because ANET didnt really shake up the main culprits. FBs will still be boonspam, scourge will still be Condi Bombs, Scrapper will still be condi cleanse, SBs will still do Bubbles...

    This only reduces one shot builds, which I hate to say provides outsider profs some kind of usefulness in team fights outside of roaming.

  • RisenHowl.2419RisenHowl.2419 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @DragonSlayer.1087 said:
    The meta is not going to change because ANET didnt really shake up the main culprits. FBs will still be boonspam, scourge will still be Condi Bombs, Scrapper will still be condi cleanse, SBs will still do Bubbles...

    This only reduces one shot builds, which I hate to say provides outsider profs some kind of usefulness in team fights outside of roaming.

    please show me a video of a scourge using a 'condi bomb' since dhuumfire was nerfed?

  • XenesisII.1540XenesisII.1540 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @RisenHowl.2419 said:

    @DragonSlayer.1087 said:
    The meta is not going to change because ANET didnt really shake up the main culprits. FBs will still be boonspam, scourge will still be Condi Bombs, Scrapper will still be condi cleanse, SBs will still do Bubbles...

    This only reduces one shot builds, which I hate to say provides outsider profs some kind of usefulness in team fights outside of roaming.

    please show me a video of a scourge using a 'condi bomb' since dhuumfire was nerfed?

    Think they mean condition corruption bombs not condition damage bombs like burn guards...

  • Nimon.7840Nimon.7840 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @pointaction.4639 said:
    I say Hybrid builds and Condi builds will be the meta.

    Necomancer Minionmacer Builds

    Nice meme

  • Nimon.7840Nimon.7840 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Could also become:

    1support guard
    2 burn guards
    1condi cleanser
    1to put up cover conditions, also being able to strip boons (most likely scourge) or rev (depends on how rev changes play out)

    Why this setup:
    Burn guard doesn't see any significant nerfs, if I saw that right and it can already be one of the best damage dealers in zergfights.
    Firebrand support is a no-brainer as well as an additional Condi cleanser, as condis will get more popular again.


    For scourge I think it'll be a hybrid meta (either cele or grieving with a bit of cele) cause Wells didn't get nerfed that hard.

  • RedShark.9548RedShark.9548 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited February 11, 2020

    @Seffen.2875 said:
    i'll concentrate on the guardian changes, because they are the ones i can say most about.

    Several things got gutted. Damage scaling on most of the weapons. The staffs healing and might application. Healing in general and boon application. I would roughly estimate that Guardian loses about 50 % of its healing.

    Now it completely depends on how engeneer and Elemental are treated healingwise. they also got a bit tuned down but may still be stronger healwise.

    One thing will happen for sure: The skill ceiling of guarding will rise. it will rise to pre pof levels, and even above. If your guard is bad, your whole group will suffer badly. I think a lot of people underestimate how forgiving guardian is right now and how effectiv you still are, even if you suck. The gap between good and bad will widen by a huge margin.

    Healing will lose some overall effectiveness in comparison too other tools. Guardian is not that much affected by that because litereally all his other stats got gutted as well.
    But it is quite possible, that healing power wont be main stat anymore.
    But neither will power due to reduced scalings but rather precision. I expect something pretty wild mixes, probably celestial making a big comeback.
    Staff will be dropped as a weapon.
    Mace and shield will stay because they literelly kept all their healing. probably Greatsword again for some spiking.

    Ult Mantra will stay, as will stand your ground. and the cleansing mantra, Merciful intervention will be dropped. Purging will make a comeback, not touched at all.

    Contemplation of purity will be of more interest as well.

    But we will see.

    I see alot of guards going for condi dmg, burn applications are almost untouched. Burn guards are on the rise.

    @Dediggefedde.4961 said:
    I don't think the composition will change much. I also doubt that the used stats will change much.
    Perhaps guards go less towards concentration and more healers try cleric instead of minstrel...

    We noticed that the number of conditions increased, but at the moment, incoming damage is 80% power damage. The main problem for years was always movement impeding conditions, not damaging ones. Since the cleanse amount is mostly untouched by the patch, the relative amount of condi-dmg goes up, but the absolute stays the same. Especially with the shift from stacks to duration on many skills, there will be little trouble.
    A group with power-scrappers, dmg-spellbreaker, and tempest-supporter will have little trouble against condi builds.

    Regarding Build-Changes, I only know in detail about engineers, but heal- and power-scrappers are mostly untouched (except explosive line).

    The largest impact might actually come from the details.
    Big-hit skills with CC that were nerfed from 3.0 to 0.01 coefficient (e.g. prime-light-beam).
    Other strong skills that are not listed and unchanged (like shredder-gyro or bomb-1).
    In my opinion, these details will have the largest impact on composition and equipment.

    That being said, I think this patch is actually great and will lead to more build diversity, especially at roaming, but also for zergs.

    Dmg spellbreaker, what a meme.
    Most of those were carried by auto endure pain and auto balanced stance, thats on 5min cd, im already seeing them drop like flies, dmg hasnt beed reduced that much, that they cant be reduced from 100 to 0 in a second.

    And other classes do way more Dmg more reliably from safer positions or with better defenses.

  • LetoII.3782LetoII.3782 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @RisenHowl.2419 said:

    @Stand The Wall.6987 said:
    double cele radiance fb's gogogo

    There's so many better ways to gear fb than Cele man....

    Agreed
    The temptation is always there to diversify, but it doesn't scale 1:1. When you try to get a little bit better with a secondary role you end up A LOT worse in your main role.

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  • Svarty.8019Svarty.8019 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @DanAlcedo.3281 said:

    Rev still gives boons to 10 targets.

    What is it using to do this, please?

    This post contains my opinion.

  • Psycoprophet.8107Psycoprophet.8107 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited February 12, 2020

    @Swagger.1459 said:

    @Strider Pj.2193 said:
    30 thiefs and 5 Mesmers.

    No. 25 thieves, 5 mesmers and 5 rangers.

    They'd do so good vs a group of fb,scourges, revs etc lol

  • GDchiaScrub.3241GDchiaScrub.3241 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @LetoII.3782 said:

    @RisenHowl.2419 said:

    @Stand The Wall.6987 said:
    double cele radiance fb's gogogo

    There's so many better ways to gear fb than Cele man....

    Agreed
    The temptation is always there to diversify, but it doesn't scale 1:1. When you try to get a little bit better with a secondary role you end up A LOT worse in your main role.

    Shhhh. Everything should be cele with stars sigil and runes. Dye armor in rainbow formation, and wiggle your arms in combat all the while shrieking with a high pitch. This display will strike fear into the heart of most enemies.

    D:

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  • Strider Pj.2193Strider Pj.2193 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @GDchiaScrub.3241 said:

    @LetoII.3782 said:

    @RisenHowl.2419 said:

    @Stand The Wall.6987 said:
    double cele radiance fb's gogogo

    There's so many better ways to gear fb than Cele man....

    Agreed
    The temptation is always there to diversify, but it doesn't scale 1:1. When you try to get a little bit better with a secondary role you end up A LOT worse in your main role.

    Shhhh. Everything should be cele with stars sigil and runes. Dye armor in rainbow formation, and wiggle your arms in combat all the while shrieking with a high pitch. This display will strike fear into the heart of most enemies.

    D:

    Wait... are you on TC?

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  • GDchiaScrub.3241GDchiaScrub.3241 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Strider Pj.2193 said:

    @GDchiaScrub.3241 said:

    @LetoII.3782 said:

    @RisenHowl.2419 said:

    @Stand The Wall.6987 said:
    double cele radiance fb's gogogo

    There's so many better ways to gear fb than Cele man....

    Agreed
    The temptation is always there to diversify, but it doesn't scale 1:1. When you try to get a little bit better with a secondary role you end up A LOT worse in your main role.

    Shhhh. Everything should be cele with stars sigil and runes. Dye armor in rainbow formation, and wiggle your arms in combat all the while shrieking with a high pitch. This display will strike fear into the heart of most enemies.

    D:

    Wait... are you on TC?

    I can only confirm that at least 2 people in this quote chain have ever graced the Holy Lands of the Tarnished Coast.

    D:

    Holy Warriors of [Kazo] following Kazo doctrine guided by, Our Lord and Commander, Zudo in the holy Trinity of Him and his two firm glutes.

  • Strider Pj.2193Strider Pj.2193 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @GDchiaScrub.3241 said:

    @Strider Pj.2193 said:

    @GDchiaScrub.3241 said:

    @LetoII.3782 said:

    @RisenHowl.2419 said:

    @Stand The Wall.6987 said:
    double cele radiance fb's gogogo

    There's so many better ways to gear fb than Cele man....

    Agreed
    The temptation is always there to diversify, but it doesn't scale 1:1. When you try to get a little bit better with a secondary role you end up A LOT worse in your main role.

    Shhhh. Everything should be cele with stars sigil and runes. Dye armor in rainbow formation, and wiggle your arms in combat all the while shrieking with a high pitch. This display will strike fear into the heart of most enemies.

    D:

    Wait... are you on TC?

    I can only confirm that at least 2 people in this quote chain have ever graced the Holy Lands of the Tarnished Coast.

    D:

    Make it three...

    Thank You for the {MEME}

  • DanAlcedo.3281DanAlcedo.3281 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Svarty.8019 said:

    @DanAlcedo.3281 said:

    Rev still gives boons to 10 targets.

    What is it using to do this, please?

    https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Draconic_Echo

  • Svarty.8019Svarty.8019 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @DanAlcedo.3281 said:

    @Svarty.8019 said:

    @DanAlcedo.3281 said:

    Rev still gives boons to 10 targets.

    What is it using to do this, please?

    https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Draconic_Echo

    Uhm... not sure that does what you think it does.

    This post contains my opinion.