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  • Sovari.7246Sovari.7246 Member ✭✭✭

    They should have had some tools for machinima creators earlier in the game it could have maintained more promotion/buzz for this game and more fun content for us to consume

  • maddoctor.2738maddoctor.2738 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Who are these content creators that stopped?

  • @maddoctor.2738 said:
    Who are these content creators that stopped?

    That Shaman hasn't posted an interlude dance video since forever!

    ...

  • cptaylor.2670cptaylor.2670 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @thepenmonster.3621 said:

    @maddoctor.2738 said:
    Who are these content creators that stopped?

    That Shaman hasn't posted an interlude dance video since forever!

    That Shaman is my hero.

  • mindcircus.1506mindcircus.1506 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @thepenmonster.3621 said:

    @maddoctor.2738 said:
    Who are these content creators that stopped?

    That Shaman hasn't posted an interlude dance video since forever!

    That_shaman has updated his twitter feed 9 times already this month with fresh gw2-related posts.
    The last one was 11 hours ago.

  • @mindcircus.1506 said:

    @thepenmonster.3621 said:

    @maddoctor.2738 said:
    Who are these content creators that stopped?

    That Shaman hasn't posted an interlude dance video since forever!

    That_shaman has updated his twitter feed 9 times already this month with fresh gw2-related posts.
    The last one was 11 hours ago.

    Non-kitten use Twitter?!

    ...

  • Dantert.1803Dantert.1803 Member ✭✭✭

    Come on people, WP clearly states that since it has been hard to find real content to make videos about since PoF he decided to expand on other games since Gw2 isn't giving him enough.
    He also says that he doesn't want to ask Anet for an expansion for his own interest(to give him content to make good videos about) but still he thinks it is important for the well being of the game.
    This Saga thing is damaging the game, just in this thread many people wrote that they are currently not playing often, they are just logging in for those 2 hours of story patch when they are released.
    I'm not trying to elevate WP choices to the final words on Gw2 death but just saying that maybe if one of the biggest supporters of the game since the start is having an hard time to focus on GW2 to create his content maybe it means that the current game strategy is not helping the game to grow

  • Jimbru.6014Jimbru.6014 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @rowdy.5107 said:
    Whats a wooden potato?

    The game's ultimate missile weapon, which will be used to slay the last Elder Dragon thus ending the GW world.

  • coso.9173coso.9173 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited February 6, 2020

    I wonder when will people understand that if there's no expansion is because of something. It's not a random decision at all. Either they don't have the resources to do it now, or by last experiences it's not worth it for them. You can keep complaining about it all that you want but it won't change their decision and why they took it

  • Konrad Curze.5130Konrad Curze.5130 Member ✭✭✭
    edited February 6, 2020

    @Inculpatus cedo.9234 said:
    It seems like many people posting about Wooden Potatoes (whether directly or indirectly) didn't watch the video.
    Again, WP stated he was not producing any less GW2 content. He was going to cover other topics.

    WP stated that where he could live comfortably producing GW2 only content in the past, the current situation with the waning GW2 audience demands him to branch out and get further revenue to support himself now. Are we not talking about that?

  • Konrad Curze.5130Konrad Curze.5130 Member ✭✭✭
    edited February 6, 2020

    @maddoctor.2738 said:
    Who are these content creators that stopped?

    Jawgeous and Hizen for starters. Dulfy a while ago

  • Raknar.4735Raknar.4735 Member ✭✭✭

    @Konrad Curze.5130 said:

    @maddoctor.2738 said:
    Who are these content creators that stopped?

    Jawgeous and Hizen for starters. Dulfy a while ago

    Hizen streamed GW2 9 days ago, Dulfy appears to have stopped creating content for not only GW2, but also all other MMOs on her site. I doubt it has anything to do with GW2.

    Also WP branched out in the past, like his Grimrock or Tomb Raider stuff, so it's nothing new. He's just saying he wants to grow his channel by reaching a bigger audience, which is reasonable for a youtuber.

    You have a heart of gold. Don't let them take it from you. Umbasa.

  • Zexanima.7851Zexanima.7851 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Raknar.4735 said:

    @Konrad Curze.5130 said:

    @maddoctor.2738 said:
    Who are these content creators that stopped?

    Jawgeous and Hizen for starters. Dulfy a while ago

    Hizen streamed GW2 9 days ago, Dulfy appears to have stopped creating content for not only GW2, but also all other MMOs on her site. I doubt it has anything to do with GW2.

    Also WP branched out in the past, like his Grimrock or Tomb Raider stuff, so it's nothing new. He's just saying he wants to grow his channel by reaching a bigger audience, which is reasonable for a youtuber.

    Shorts seems to have stopped? Idk, his last video wasn't anything specific. Jawgeous is also another.

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  • Raknar.4735Raknar.4735 Member ✭✭✭

    @Zexanima.7851 said:

    @Raknar.4735 said:

    @Konrad Curze.5130 said:

    @maddoctor.2738 said:
    Who are these content creators that stopped?

    Jawgeous and Hizen for starters. Dulfy a while ago

    Hizen streamed GW2 9 days ago, Dulfy appears to have stopped creating content for not only GW2, but also all other MMOs on her site. I doubt it has anything to do with GW2.

    Also WP branched out in the past, like his Grimrock or Tomb Raider stuff, so it's nothing new. He's just saying he wants to grow his channel by reaching a bigger audience, which is reasonable for a youtuber.

    Shorts seems to have stopped? Idk, his last video wasn't anything specific. Jawgeous is also another.

    Never heard of Shorts. Do you mean Shorts_Gaming? Just checked him out. On his "New Big Patch first thoughts" from 26.1.2020 he atleast said at 4:24 that he's going to do more videos on the balance. Doesn't seem to have stopped to me.

    As for Jawgeous, yeah, he did quit. I never really liked his personality, and he still seems really hung up about Guild Wars 2, based on his twitter feed.

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  • Zexanima.7851Zexanima.7851 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Raknar.4735 said:

    @Zexanima.7851 said:

    @Raknar.4735 said:

    @Konrad Curze.5130 said:

    @maddoctor.2738 said:
    Who are these content creators that stopped?

    Jawgeous and Hizen for starters. Dulfy a while ago

    Hizen streamed GW2 9 days ago, Dulfy appears to have stopped creating content for not only GW2, but also all other MMOs on her site. I doubt it has anything to do with GW2.

    Also WP branched out in the past, like his Grimrock or Tomb Raider stuff, so it's nothing new. He's just saying he wants to grow his channel by reaching a bigger audience, which is reasonable for a youtuber.

    Shorts seems to have stopped? Idk, his last video wasn't anything specific. Jawgeous is also another.

    Never heard of Shorts. Do you mean Shorts_Gaming? Just checked him out. On his "New Big Patch first thoughts" from 26.1.2020 he atleast said at 4:24 that he's going to do more videos on the balance. Doesn't seem to have stopped to me.

    As for Jawgeous, yeah, he did quit. I never really liked his personality, and he still seems really hung up about Guild Wars 2, based on his twitter feed.

    Yeah, shorts_gaming. https://youtube.com/watch?v=IkAqFxCXw9Y Idk if this is an "I'm quitting the game" vid or just wvw. Who knows. I wasn't a fan of Jawgeous either but he was a fairly big creator non-the-less.

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  • Raknar.4735Raknar.4735 Member ✭✭✭
    edited February 6, 2020

    @Zexanima.7851 said:

    @Raknar.4735 said:

    @Zexanima.7851 said:

    @Raknar.4735 said:

    @Konrad Curze.5130 said:

    @maddoctor.2738 said:
    Who are these content creators that stopped?

    Jawgeous and Hizen for starters. Dulfy a while ago

    Hizen streamed GW2 9 days ago, Dulfy appears to have stopped creating content for not only GW2, but also all other MMOs on her site. I doubt it has anything to do with GW2.

    Also WP branched out in the past, like his Grimrock or Tomb Raider stuff, so it's nothing new. He's just saying he wants to grow his channel by reaching a bigger audience, which is reasonable for a youtuber.

    Shorts seems to have stopped? Idk, his last video wasn't anything specific. Jawgeous is also another.

    Never heard of Shorts. Do you mean Shorts_Gaming? Just checked him out. On his "New Big Patch first thoughts" from 26.1.2020 he atleast said at 4:24 that he's going to do more videos on the balance. Doesn't seem to have stopped to me.

    As for Jawgeous, yeah, he did quit. I never really liked his personality, and he still seems really hung up about Guild Wars 2, based on his twitter feed.

    Yeah, shorts_gaming. https://youtube.com/watch?v=IkAqFxCXw9Y Idk if this is an "I'm quitting the game" vid or just wvw. Who knows. I wasn't a fan of Jawgeous either but he was a fairly big creator non-the-less.

    Just looks like a goodbye to the Mesmer to me, since it is getting nerfed. I'm used to Variety- / WoW-/ HS- / LoL / PoE- streamers/youtubers. Compared to them Jawgeous had a really small reach as a creator. "Fairly big" relative to GW2? I guess? Maybe? I don't know, like I said earlier in this thread, GW2 content creators haven't really reached me with their content, apart from some lore videos, so I don't really know what is considered "big" in GW2.

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  • Zexanima.7851Zexanima.7851 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Raknar.4735 said:

    @Zexanima.7851 said:

    @Raknar.4735 said:

    @Zexanima.7851 said:

    @Raknar.4735 said:

    @Konrad Curze.5130 said:

    @maddoctor.2738 said:
    Who are these content creators that stopped?

    Jawgeous and Hizen for starters. Dulfy a while ago

    Hizen streamed GW2 9 days ago, Dulfy appears to have stopped creating content for not only GW2, but also all other MMOs on her site. I doubt it has anything to do with GW2.

    Also WP branched out in the past, like his Grimrock or Tomb Raider stuff, so it's nothing new. He's just saying he wants to grow his channel by reaching a bigger audience, which is reasonable for a youtuber.

    Shorts seems to have stopped? Idk, his last video wasn't anything specific. Jawgeous is also another.

    Never heard of Shorts. Do you mean Shorts_Gaming? Just checked him out. On his "New Big Patch first thoughts" from 26.1.2020 he atleast said at 4:24 that he's going to do more videos on the balance. Doesn't seem to have stopped to me.

    As for Jawgeous, yeah, he did quit. I never really liked his personality, and he still seems really hung up about Guild Wars 2, based on his twitter feed.

    Yeah, shorts_gaming. https://youtube.com/watch?v=IkAqFxCXw9Y Idk if this is an "I'm quitting the game" vid or just wvw. Who knows. I wasn't a fan of Jawgeous either but he was a fairly big creator non-the-less.

    Just looks like a goodbye to the Mesmer to me, since it is getting nerfed. I'm used to Variety- / WoW-/ HS- / LoL / PoE- streamers/youtubers. Compared to them Jawgeous had a really small reach as a creator. "Fairly big" relative to GW2? I guess? Maybe? I don't know, like I said earlier in this thread, GW2 content creators haven't really reached me with their content, apart from some lore videos, so I don't really know what is considered "big" in GW2.

    Yeah, I guess I have a smaller perspective on it being a mostly PvP/WvW player so that creators are more my interest. I "think?" they have a smaller following than the PvE creators because of the smaller community around it.

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  • Wisty.4135Wisty.4135 Member ✭✭✭

    Not sure. I have a fair number of smaller content creators I watch when the bigger ones (teepo, Jaw, and even to am extent, WP) all became kinda insufferable. It's fun watching people newer to the game explore and discover and work through it, versus the vets who by and large are negative about the game.

  • Excursion.9752Excursion.9752 Member ✭✭✭

    I come and go with this game and I don't care who plays or not. I like the game you don't have to like it as much or as little as I do. You make your own content. I constantly see people dependent on "New" content for their good times. There is plenty of things to do if you use your imagination and step out of the box you have put yourself in. Every one rushes content like they are trying to win an award. There are always things to do even though you may not want to do them.

    So in short his opinion does not reflect mine or even yours. Just because he streams does not make him important to me. Just like this post is not important to you.

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  • Trise.2865Trise.2865 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Teratus.2859 said:
    Nothing wrong with him wanting to add more games to his channel.

    Honestly im surprised he didn't start doing it years ago.

    He did. He played Final Fantasy X-2 for a while.
    It went over exactly as well as that sounds.

    If we want ANet to step up their game, then we must step up ours.

  • MokahTGS.7850MokahTGS.7850 Member ✭✭✭

    When content creators signal they are going to expand their content to other games it sends a nonverbal message to the game community that they are losing interest. The partner list is very out of date, but it is a temp gauge for the game. We watch youtubers on a regular basis and the games they play are what everyone else is playing. GW2 is not on any of their radars. To be honest, however none of the content creators that I watch are playing MMOs. It is other games.

    Part of the GW2 downturn is because of the overall downturn in MMO play. Many more games in recent years have added multiplayer components that gamers are flocking to. Gaming in general is increasing. Online gaming in general is increasing. MMO play time is decreasing.

    Quite honestly, my family hasn't played GW2 in a while, because it just isn't interesting. We are playing games like ESO, TABS, Minecraft, ARK, Atlas, Empyrion and even Stardew Valley because it now has a multiplayer component. Only one of those is an MMO. These games aren't new, they just are more interesting to us than GW2

    Your mileage may vary, but for our family bus only an expansion will get us back playing GW2.

  • Teratus.2859Teratus.2859 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Trise.2865 said:

    @Teratus.2859 said:
    Nothing wrong with him wanting to add more games to his channel.

    Honestly im surprised he didn't start doing it years ago.

    He did. He played Final Fantasy X-2 for a while.
    It went over exactly as well as that sounds.

    I don't recall that lol

    I know he streams different games occasionally, Tomb Raider being one I remember.
    All the notifications I get are Gw2 related though so never watched anything else on his channel besides that content.

  • Rauderi.8706Rauderi.8706 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Trise.2865 said:
    He did. He played Final Fantasy X-2 for a while.
    It went over exactly as well as that sounds.

    He should do Kingdom Hearts.
    If only so we can watch his head implode as he tries to explain the lore. XD

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  • To be honest, even if Wooden Potatoes and other streamers all got together and quit the game tomorrow, I don't think it'd matter. Dulfy hasn't posted new guides in close to a year, and while I miss the usefulness of her website, the void has been filled by players helping each other in map chat and squad.

    There's no special analysis to be done here. Content creators and streamers are just players with the caveat that they make stuff related to their game of choice. They aren't better (or worse) than anyone else because of their content creation, and the impact of their coming and going shouldn't be the crisis that people make it out to be.

    All I can really say on this is what I always do: If a content creator leaves or you see a void that can be filled, fill it yourself or support the people who are trying to.

  • SunTzu.4513SunTzu.4513 Member ✭✭✭

    WP imo needs a plan b for his channel. To be honest GW2 is not delivering this much content to do vids/Let's plays these days. The Icebrood saga is imo lacking at lenght and depth storywise till now and the new archivments are the same old shenanigans we already done a lot's of time before. No one knows how the saga plays out in the end and if we will get lasting content like new e specs or something like this wich can be used to produce interesting new content.

    And to be honest i ''only'' got around 6k play time overall in this game and have some times wehre i need to take a step away from the game or i would get burned out. I don't know exactly how many hours WP invested but i would guess between 15k and 25k easily. So it seems pretty legit to me if he wants to do some other games too.

  • Endless Soul.5178Endless Soul.5178 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @MokahTGS.7850 said:
    ~snip~
    Quite honestly, my family hasn't played GW2 in a while, because it just isn't interesting. We are playing games like ESO, TABS, Minecraft, ARK, Atlas, Empyrion and even Stardew Valley because it now has a multiplayer component. Only one of those is an MMO. These games aren't new, they just are more interesting to us than GW2

    Your mileage may vary, but for our family bus only an expansion will get us back playing GW2.

    It's true in my experience. Even I, a Guild Wars 2 die-hard, find myself playing Minecraft and Destiny 2 with my friends (many of whom I met in Guild Wars 2) a lot more often these days. I still play Guild Wars 2 fairly regularly, but not as often or as long as I used to.

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  • @Dantert.1803 said:

    To me if even WP that managed all these years to make the 2 hours video on just little things about the game, then it means that the game is becoming an empty shell...

    This is what causes me to shy away from WP.
    He needs to get to the point instead of his normal long winded pontification.

  • DoRi Silvia.4159DoRi Silvia.4159 Member ✭✭✭
    edited February 6, 2020

    It just sounds like you need a break from the game. Obviously the game is not meeting your expectations lately and while it's understandable, they have atleast given us info of what's coming ahead..

    I hit the brick content wall last year and played ffxiv expansion but strangely the whole time I thought aw man this ain't gw2.. that's when I knew I wanted to come back for good

    Just take a break from the game and come back when you miss it

  • Zephire.8049Zephire.8049 Member ✭✭✭

    @Raknar.4735 said:

    @Konrad Curze.5130 said:

    @maddoctor.2738 said:
    Who are these content creators that stopped?

    Jawgeous and Hizen for starters. Dulfy a while ago

    Hizen streamed GW2 9 days ago, Dulfy appears to have stopped creating content for not only GW2, but also all other MMOs on her site. I doubt it has anything to do with GW2.

    Also WP branched out in the past, like his Grimrock or Tomb Raider stuff, so it's nothing new. He's just saying he wants to grow his channel by reaching a bigger audience, which is reasonable for a youtuber.

    Dulfy stopped because she got a job that required her full attention/her job got busy (not sure which). So less the game is dying/content creators are leaving a dying game, more putting IRL priorities ahead of video game content and documentation in her case.

    And honestly I'm fine with that and I wish more content creators would move on if they're tired of a game or being a content creator doesn't cover all their expenses so they need to cut back on video games so they can focus on things like rent and food. That's not to say content creators don't benefit their video game(s), but I'd rather people be happy than burn out. Also GW2 has been out for over 7 years now and that's a long time for anyone to be focused on a game full time.

  • Mortifera.6138Mortifera.6138 Member ✭✭✭

    What does a potato know about World of Guildcraft??

  • Randulf.7614Randulf.7614 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Mortifera.6138 said:
    What does a potato know about World of Guildcraft??

    An ordinary potato? Nothing it's a potato

    A wooden potato however....

    What sleep is here? What dreams there are in the unctuous coiling of the snakes mortal shuffling. weapon in my hand. My hand the arcing deathblow at the end of all things. The horror. The horror. I embrace it. . .

  • Zaklex.6308Zaklex.6308 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Neural.1824 said:

    @coso.9173 said:
    or just quit.

    Except that Arenanet's business model is made specifically to punish people who leave for any long length of time. If you drop out for more than 3 months, and then decide you want to get back into the game, you have to fork over cash for any living story segments you might have missed, and you'd better log in once a week for the next 3 years if you want that mount skin or glider that you missed in the Gem store while you were gone.

    You literally have to log in to just the character select screen whenever a new episode is released then you can log right back out again, and continue taking that long break anyone might want to consider, it's that easy. Same with Gem store items, you see the release note, log-in, purchase and log-out, not that difficult unless people don't have the self control to be able to do just that one thing and must play when they log-in.

    Yes...no...maybe...what do you want, can't you see I'm busy saving the world...AGAIN!

  • @AgentMoore.9453 said:
    I don't think it'd matter. Dulfy hasn't posted new guides in close to a year

    AFAIK Dulfy got a real job.

    @SunTzu.4513 said:
    The Icebrood saga is imo lacking at lenght and depth storywise till now...

    I played all three installments on an alt. The whole thing flows like a TV show designed to be binged on Netflix or a comic book designed for the trade paperback. But yeah, playing it as it comes out has been creating a pretty disjointed feeling.

    It reminds me of S2 TBH. I missed it when it came out but going by how brief those are I can imagine what a pain it was to wait it out back then.

    @DoRi Silvia.4159 said:
    Just take a break from the game and come back when you miss it

    This is the most sane approach to dealing with a commercial product one has somehow forgotten was a commercial product.

    ...

  • Fenella.2634Fenella.2634 Member ✭✭✭

    @Zephire.8049 said:

    @Raknar.4735 said:

    @Konrad Curze.5130 said:

    @maddoctor.2738 said:
    Who are these content creators that stopped?

    Jawgeous and Hizen for starters. Dulfy a while ago

    Hizen streamed GW2 9 days ago, Dulfy appears to have stopped creating content for not only GW2, but also all other MMOs on her site. I doubt it has anything to do with GW2.

    Also WP branched out in the past, like his Grimrock or Tomb Raider stuff, so it's nothing new. He's just saying he wants to grow his channel by reaching a bigger audience, which is reasonable for a youtuber.

    Dulfy stopped because she got a job that required her full attention/her job got busy (not sure which). So less the game is dying/content creators are leaving a dying game, more putting IRL priorities ahead of video game content and documentation in her case.

    Jawgeous too, I think? Didn't he stop because he moved to another country for a job and couldn't bring much of his equipment?

  • Well there are 2 real types of content creators: those who do it JUST for fun and those that make a career out of it (ie for the money). Losing then1st means there is a problem with the game, losing the second means there is a problem with viewership. The first is a potential problem, the second really isn't.
    And in the words of Henry Cavill, "Watching people play is a waste of good playing time." Of course people can do both, but I think the vast majority (in this game atleast) just would rather play than watch.
    I watch a couple streamers that do the content I enjoy, and some YouTube for patch notes and builds (both of which DO get good viewership).

    TL:DR who cares? If people are playing the game, it really doesn't matter if people are "watching" the game, and matters even less if an individual jumps ship to the FOTM game for viewer dollars.

  • Rauderi.8706Rauderi.8706 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @AgentMoore.9453 said:
    To be honest, even if Wooden Potatoes and other streamers all got together and quit the game tomorrow, I don't think it'd matter. Dulfy hasn't posted new guides in close to a year, and while I miss the usefulness of her website, the void has been filled by players helping each other in map chat and squad.

    I lean on the wiki a lot more, but it's not as timely as when Dulfy was around. :( The only streamer I didn't have a wealth of antipathy for.

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  • There's so much misrepresentation going on in this thread. WP is still just as passionate about GW2, he's just not as hopeful about the development of the game. But he explicitly stated he will continue making just as much GW2 videos as he has done in the past. His main gripe is that those videos don't mean a lot in the long run. People watch them when he releases them and they get the usual views, which does enable him to get by in life. But after that, there's no reason to revisit the videos. Apparently they're valuable or entertaining in the moment, but after that nobody watches those videos anymore. All he wants is to try and introduce other content to his channel to maybe ramp up his subscribers and views, so he can do more than get by in life.

    The video was more about his life/livelihood, his channel and where he wants to take it than it was about the state of GW2. Yes, he said some things about GW2 but his views aren't representative of the entire GW2 community. Sure, many people share his opinions, and many don't. And as this thread proves, many have never even heard of him. Drawing conclusions about the state of GW2 based on this particular video of his is missing the mark on an epic scale. It seems the level of cognitive skills in people varies wildly.

  • Amaranthe.3578Amaranthe.3578 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Raknar.4735 said:
    He's still planning to do a lot of GW2 content, he's just branching out to increase his audience.

    Yeah, cuz he can't make enough new GW2 content because the content flow is so slow.

  • Raknar.4735Raknar.4735 Member ✭✭✭

    @Amaranthe.3578 said:

    @Raknar.4735 said:
    He's still planning to do a lot of GW2 content, he's just branching out to increase his audience.

    Yeah, cuz he can't make enough new GW2 content because the content flow is so slow.

    That's obvious. Even other big MMO-games like WoW can't create enough content. Nixxiom and similiar content creators had to branch out, Asmongold kept making reaction-streams, Soda changed to variety.

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  • @Amaranthe.3578 said:

    @Raknar.4735 said:
    He's still planning to do a lot of GW2 content, he's just branching out to increase his audience.

    Yeah, cuz he can't make enough new GW2 content because the content flow is so slow.

    No. Anyone who truly knows WP and the videos he makes, knows he can make an hour long video of a 20 seconds long teaser trailer. He delves deep into lore and speculation about what might come and always sounds passionate and excited about it. Any little tidbit of new information always gets an extensive treatment from him.

    The reason he is branching out is because GW2 videos don't get a lot of replay. They get a steady number of views upon release but after that they rarely are revisited. He is trying to create more meaningful (to him) and longer lasting videos, like he has tried in the past with playthroughs of e.g. Final Fantasy or Tomb Raider. WP can and will be making plenty of videos that last anywhere between 20 minutes and an hour, like he always has. His passion for the game hasn't abated. He's just disappointment with the development of recent years, roughly the past 2 to 3 years, judging from what he said in the video. Despite that, his treatment of GW2 on his channel hasn't changed. And he's no white knight either. No matter how much he loves the game, if he sees something he doesn't agree with, he will voice that opinion, despite being an ANet partner.

    It makes me wonder how familiar you are with his output in the first place.

  • MikeG.6389MikeG.6389 Member ✭✭✭

    I don't think you understood his video all too well. He is still very much sticking to Guild Wars 2 but he is branching out because that alone doesn't keep his channel afloat. The video was more about his channel than the game. Why, do you think, would he do daily streams playing it if he lost interest?

    That being said, the game is getting older, turning 8 this year. If you play a game that long, you are bound to feel jaded at times, no matter what the game does. I usually take breaks that are sometimes several months long and I'm here since the Betas. I never blamed the game for my occasional boredom, but that may very well be just me.

  • Acheron.4731Acheron.4731 Member ✭✭✭✭

    If you are dependent on GW2 coming out with anything meaningful to talk about....yeah, I would branch out too

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  • Zok.4956Zok.4956 Member ✭✭✭

    @Neural.1824 said:

    @coso.9173 said:
    or just quit.

    Except that Arenanet's business model is made specifically to punish people who leave for any long length of time. If you drop out for more than 3 months, and then decide you want to get back into the game, you have to fork over cash for any living story segments you might have missed, and you'd better log in once a week for the next 3 years if you want that mount skin or glider that you missed in the Gem store while you were gone.

    Why do you care about future LS or gemstore items when you quit?

    If you do not want to quit the game, but just want to take a break, but want also to unlock all new LS episodes without gems, all you need to do is to login every 2-3 months.

    Gemstore skins all come back from time to time. If you do not play, you do not use/miss any skins. And because the skins come back at least once a year, you can purchase them the next time when they are available again, after you came back to the game.

    So, I think, the only punishment about this is your own.

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  • Oh the calamity that a person who creates videos might have had enough of playing and making videos about one game and wants to expand their horizons or take a break from that game. Play the same thing all the time and you will lose interest, better to take a break and maintain a like for the thing than to burn out.

  • Skorpis.4372Skorpis.4372 Member ✭✭
    edited February 10, 2020

    eventually you just get bored and stop playing. I think is normal bicause you just can't play a single game forever.
    I started playing at launch but get bored at some point and stoped. I started playing again not long ago. 1.6k hours total.
    Gw2 is very friendly game to come back to. My gear feels as powerful as it was years ago. I can explore new content and its great.

  • @mindcircus.1506 said:

    @Inculpatus cedo.9234 said:
    It seems like many people posting about Wooden Potatoes (whether directly or indirectly) didn't watch the video.

    Or they watched the video and decided to misinform people anyways.
    Wooden Potatoes makes a video about how he is going to try and grow his channel, makes it clear he's not abandoning the gw2 content, then outlines several things he has already started and people can expect.
    A disaffected part of the community responds with "Content creators are leaving" or pretends they missed the parts about the upcoming content and spreads outright false information... about videos they just watched.
    Never mind that Teapot still streams GW2 over 5 hours a day 6 days a week, that Mukluk goes over 5 hours a day regularly or that WP himself and Bootts spent 4 hours going over every change in the upcoming balance patch. The fact that WP just posted a 7+ hour audiobook of Ghosts of Ascalon the day before means nothing. Forget about the fact that Kroof still posting videos as often as ever or that Krytan Herald is still posting her regular fashion vids. Noody's regular updates means nothing or the fact that there's a half dozen new people posting build videos because apparently people can't search Youtube themselves anymore.
    None of this fits the narrative of a small group of people who are willfully doing as much damage to the perception of the game as they can by starting threads with false information and spreading the dead game/maintenance mode memes.... because they are not getting what they want.

    I really question if YOU watched the video.

    He directly said in the video that he can't get any viewers for GW2. So he will branch out to some other projects then GW2.
    And yes, he mentioned he will continue to play GW2 but that doesn't change the main message that there is no interest in GW2 anymore.

    So you accused now at least 2 people of misinforming who simply quote what was said in the video.
    This is not cool dude.

    It reminds me a little bit of the oblivious people who quote the bossman: There will be no expansion in the near or far future. And then argue
    that is was not ruled out there will be a new expansion.

    What else do you want him to say in his video to accept that there is no audience or interest for GW2?
    You have twitch chanels with something like 25 people watching. What else do you need?
    Let me guess, there is a hidden channel somewhere with millions of viewers.
    We are just not able to find it because we don't know how to use Youtube

  • witcher.3197witcher.3197 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited February 10, 2020

    @Ayakaru.6583 said:
    In my thought, for everyone comes a time you're feeling done with the game.

    First of all, not everyone. Source: even GW1 still has a community.

    Second, he's not an ordinary player but a content creator, and probably the biggest. For him it's not just about fun but making a living. GW2 is struggling to release anything other than gemstore content, so content creators in general have next to nothing to work with. If they can't create content, their channels die, and they can only do so much when Anet does so little.

  • @Dantert.1803 said:
    If only we would get a big drop of content.

    The content needs to be meaningful. WP mentioned that we do get a fair amount of content, but the way it is packaged lets us consume it too quickly.

    At the end of the day, Anet is going to have to choose which group of individuals they want to displease. If they want hard content to call the challenge seekers, theyll kitten off the casual base. If they want to reuse old maps/change old maps through Living World to call people back to those maps, theyll kitten off the people who dont log in very often. If they want to release stronger gear or better ways of doing things, they'll kitten off the people who went to great lengths to collect those things the first time.

    It's not an easy thing to do, to be sure.

    @Neural.1824 said:
    Except that Arenanet's business model is made specifically to punish people who leave for any long length of time. If you drop out for more than 3 months, and then decide you want to get back into the game, you have to fork over cash for any living story segments you might have missed, and you'd better log in once a week for the next 3 years if you want that mount skin or glider that you missed in the Gem store while you were gone.

    While you have a point, also keep in mind that the updates and design direction also do not punish you by cheapening your progression that you have already made over time, thus forcing you to play just to maintain your gear or inventory like most other mmos tend to do.
    If you're burned out, all you need to do is log in, then you can leave. That has its merits.

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  • Fenom.9457Fenom.9457 Member ✭✭✭✭

    I don’t see anything wrong with someone who’s made a MASSIVE landslide of videos for so many years wanting to add variety to what he does. I couldn’t have lasted half as long as he did before adding more to my channel. I’d do two games from the start probably

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  • ZDragon.3046ZDragon.3046 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @thepenmonster.3621 said:

    @maddoctor.2738 said:
    Who are these content creators that stopped?

    That Shaman hasn't posted an interlude dance video since forever!

    Thats because youtube gets upset with him and says his videos are too short which makes it harder for him to post things like that.
    Generally just follow his twitter for all his shamanistic cat consultant content ;)