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SoulGuardian.6203SoulGuardian.6203 Member ✭✭✭✭
edited February 8, 2020 in Guild Wars 2 Discussion

All throughout Guild Wars 2 story, from the moment you first gain control of your freshly created character, up until now; what's your favourite part?

Ps. I have to stay neutral on this one.

Which part of the story/lore do you like the most, so far? 87 votes

Personal Story
22%
Rauderi.8706Curunen.8729Radiobiology.6185MidnightX.6294Eros.6801Loboling.5293Gomoratoad.9867Tommo Chocolate.5870otto.5684Morlhach.4521zityz.6089arielwind.8921Mewcifer.5198Solene.3067Makuragee.3058brenda.9723Chill Ra.3416Xenash.1245Mannah.4012TheLadyOfTheRings.9148 20 votes
LWS1
13%
cNd.1096Raknar.4735Zok.4956hugo.4705Carlin Sanders.3587CarolGam.2649Zalani.9827DarkEmiLupus.2876Vynull.9512Cyanchiv.2583Kodama.6453Bassdeff.1895 12 votes
LWS2
5%
mbhalo.1547Rogue.4756Zychuu.7294Arcaniaxs.4519Melkino.8609 5 votes
Heart Of Thorns
13%
Keriana.9635Brimstone.3807DonArkanio.6419zombyturtle.5980coso.9173Lexi.1398Fenella.2634Poormany.4507Rockal.5468tatte.5389AnorexicMonkey.1354Thomas.1374 12 votes
LWS3
4%
Esterie.7409yoni.7015Zitronenalien.4532Antycypator.9874 4 votes
Path Of Fire
8%
pinerider.1950Wizler.8192Westenev.5289ArthurDent.9538Cuks.8241Trollocks.5084Jeir.4862 7 votes
LWS4
10%
Cronospere.8143Super Hayes.6890DeadTreeJig.6714DanAlcedo.3281White Kitsunee.4620Mortifera.6138FrenzyCat.9614magnusthorek.8027Zeraltrey.6517 9 votes
Icebrood Saga
6%
Cerioth.7062Blur.3465Weindrasi.3805Perihen the Thawk.9527thepenmonster.3621Hope.6582 6 votes
None in particular
13%
Dante.1763joneirikb.7506Randulf.7614catalyst.1358Dreamy Lu.3865MikeG.6389Alyster.9470Archangel.3508MoriMoriMori.5349SexyMofo.8923SoulGuardian.6203WhiteWolf.2374 12 votes

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  • Raknar.4735Raknar.4735 Member ✭✭✭✭
    LWS1

    Tower of Nightmares, Marionette and Breachmaker, during the destruction of LA, are the parts I liked most. It also revealed / introduced Mordremoth.
    Jormags story is also starting to get interesting.

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  • coso.9173coso.9173 Member ✭✭✭✭
    Heart Of Thorns

    heart of thorns was just amazing for me. a bit darker tone. I really enjoyed it! so far I'm really enjoying this saga Hopefully it'll keep upt he quality. (or even improve it)

  • Randulf.7614Randulf.7614 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited February 8, 2020
    None in particular

    No single arc has been strong enough for me to vote for above another

    My views on each in summary;

    • Personal Story was fine first time round and has a proper campaign feel, but the short unengaging instances and low production values have aged badly
    • LS1 was garbage. It had little story, little lore and what it did have was strung together badly. Xenophobic races, united by a single all powerful person who could do anything the plot demanded regardless of how stupid it was vs the lore of the game. No matter how epic the Marionette, Battle for LA was, the near non existent story was dreadful. No matter what is said about any other aspect of the game, LS1's story (or lack of) was reviled during the first 12 months. Even the devs had to apologise for the lack of story and it all came down to the ambition of delivering content every 2 weeks not matching the quality that was achievable.
    • LS2 is generally fine and maintains a decent quality throughout, but the lack of VA causes a disconnection. It is prob the strongest season though, even though it began Aurene's story and she has been the single biggest flaw in the entire game's narrative. I enjoyed it a lot at the time.
    • HoT was a poor story. It was a single rushed Act split into tiny chunks which explored very little of the potential it set up. It deserved to be so much better. Instead we ran through the jungle, just about touching upon a few interesting things then quickly run on again before we could fully explore them. No Malyk, sudden ability to kill Mordremoth on the spot when we needed it. It was not good. I wanted it to be good so much, that even knocking on Mordys door, I was convinced we were nowhere near the end. Oh the disappointment
    • LS3 had moments. Some moments were great - the White Mantle arc for example was pretty much spot on. Balthazar's random introduction, the poor handling of Lazarus and the utter nonsense with the Shining Blade however were terrible. But we also got some cool ED and Mursaat lore and also Primordus's emergence was epic
    • PoF started really strong. Balthazar's motivations were poorly conveyed, but we got some really great instances....right up until the idiotic death twist and then it all fell apart with a rushed final third of the story. It hit a high with Kralk hovering over ahead at the end, but it was an expac of two halves with the good stuff being really good.
    • LS4 started brilliantly. Episode 2 was amazing and it was really setting things up with the Joko/Scarab Plague arc. And then Aurene returned and ruined the entire arc and continued to do so until the finale. To watch both Joko and Kralk so utterly mistreated was quite hard to play through. An ED reduced to being beaten up by a suddnely all powerful child and being part of some awful "redemption" cycle. The last few episodes of LS4 rank as the worst story in the entire game. By a massive margin.
    • The Saga had a brilliant prologue, but the piecemeal story bites haven't really worked well so far. Drakkar was rushed. The first episode had great atmosphere, but lacked enough story progression. The elements are there - the right characters, the right arcs, the right motivations and an excellent villain, but so far nothing is being done with to create a deeper story since after the Prologue. The Saga should be the best yet, but it is failing and failing rather quickly as well.

    There is too much inconsistency, a complete inability to write compelling villains over a long period, too much rushing, too much metaphysical nonsense and an over reliance on trying to keep Aurene relevant. I don't think the episodic format ever worked for the game compare to a campaign structure.

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  • Heart Of Thorns

    I never left the jungle. Or maybe it never left me.

    You're asking a difficult question. I don't remember many disappointments. It's nearly 1 AM, and after having the dullest day, I'm now full of enthusiasm to replay only everything. So thanks a lot. (Already spent closer to two hours thinking about this. Probably book's worth of loose details, not enough for coherent sentences, but enough to matter to me.)

  • Zalani.9827Zalani.9827 Member ✭✭✭
    edited February 8, 2020
    LWS1

    I’m actually enjoying Icebrood/liked PoF but I gotta say I do miss a lot of the season 1 events.

    The scarlet map events, Marionette boss and breachmaker were so fun. I still want to see those bosses come back in some way.

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  • Trise.2865Trise.2865 Member ✭✭✭✭

    I like the stories out in the world. Aiden's, for example.

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  • LWS4

    Joko and kraklkatoric were the best 2 villains GW2 has had.
    As well as having the best maps IMO, season 4 is also the only story arc that has a satisfying end since core.

    Even if there were still alot of flaws I think it easily takes the cake.

  • Personal Story

    Personal story, especially the first 3 chapters (racial storylines) :)

  • hugo.4705hugo.4705 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited February 8, 2020
    LWS1

    LS1, sure Scarlet wasn't the top villain, but it was amazing, the marionette, the invasions in LA, attacks of Aetherblade, nightmare tower exploration! God the breachmaker! That nuclear alert sound! (Still used in guild chat if spoiler part) The knights! The first time we discovered Southsun Cove it was really rewarding. Canach was also nicely introduced. I'm sure they are peoples also thinking LS1 was great but they aren't in the vocal majority sadly. Community events like the election of Kiel/Evon was also nice feature and it came with introducing the fabulous labyrinthine cliffs. I still want a battle of LA fractal and a Marionette one. I'm sorry but LS1 got good lore. I liked a lot the tower of nightmare arc with all the toxins, progressing through it and the dynamic events around Kessex Hills, was a thing to see aetherblade airships stopping around the maps and launching invasions. The main aetherblade complex that is now the fractal were a real thing at launch, it was considered as a dungeon, like other ones and it sad they haven't continued that way, adding dungeons in HoT and PoF to replace them with fast path (fractals) and even more recently just boss (strike).

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  • Dante.1763Dante.1763 Member ✭✭✭✭
    None in particular

    Ended up voting none in particular simply due to the lack of an option that amounted to little segments of each.

    Each story arc has had -something- i liked,With the exception of LS1, until i can experience it that story is the worst one in the game, due to the fact it doesnt exist(Hint: that little "walk through" they give is awful). But none of them are overall amazing IMO.

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  • Keriana.9635Keriana.9635 Member ✭✭✭
    Heart Of Thorns

    I liked Heart of Thorns best. My pc is a sylvari, and I liked the sylvari and jungle themes as well as the meta events. I also liked the Personal Story because it had some choices. I enjoyed Path of Fire as well. The mounts were particularly well done.

    I didn't like LWS1 as well because it often had very little story because of the 2-week release schedule. I also didn't like Scarlet. She was too over-the-top for me. Also, I was stuck in an overflow during one of the big battles and didn't get to participate. I did like Canach's introduction as well as the Marionette boss.

    I wish LWS3 would have taken the time to finish up the unfinished plots of HoT before moving on instead of just leaving them hanging. I also hated the Shining Blade oath part. I did like Knight of the Thorn, however.

    LWS4 had some good parts but was also the start of the Braham show.

    Icebrood Saga: I haven't finished the Prologue yet because of how much I dislike Braham. I am thinking of skipping the rest of Icebrood Saga but haven't decided yet.

  • Randulf.7614Randulf.7614 Member ✭✭✭✭
    None in particular

    @Dante.1763 said:
    Ended up voting none in particular simply due to the lack of an option that amounted to little segments of each.

    Each story arc has had -something- i liked,With the exception of LS1, until i can experience it that story is the worst one in the game, due to the fact it doesnt exist(Hint: that little "walk through" they give is awful). But none of them are overall amazing IMO.

    It's a real shame it can't be replayed for joiners to the game since. On the one hand, the story was barely existent, with some little bits to progress our actions and not much else. The set pieces are what made it and the innovations which laid down the foundations for things later. For every episode where we built a fence (yes we got an episode where we built sign posts in Wayfarer - that happened), we'd get an episode like Battle for LA which I don't think has been bettered since anywhere in the game.

    But yes, as someone who played LS1 and hated and loathed it in equal measure, the onlt thing worse is the pathetic story journal video they gave us.
    Episode 2 of LS2 covers more story than the video. Actually ep2 covers more backstory about LS1 than LS1 did....

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  • Dante.1763Dante.1763 Member ✭✭✭✭
    None in particular

    @Randulf.7614 said:

    @Dante.1763 said:
    Ended up voting none in particular simply due to the lack of an option that amounted to little segments of each.

    Each story arc has had -something- i liked,With the exception of LS1, until i can experience it that story is the worst one in the game, due to the fact it doesnt exist(Hint: that little "walk through" they give is awful). But none of them are overall amazing IMO.

    It's a real shame it can't be replayed for joiners to the game since. On the one hand, the story was barely existent, with some little bits to progress our actions and not much else. The set pieces are what made it and the innovations which laid down the foundations for things later. For every episode where we built a fence (yes we got an episode where we built sign posts in Wayfarer - that happened), we'd get an episode like Battle for LA which I don't think has been bettered since anywhere in the game.

    But yes, as someone who played LS1 and hated and loathed it in equal measure, the onlt thing worse is the pathetic story journal video they gave us.
    Episode 2 of LS2 covers more story than the video. Actually ep2 covers more backstory about LS1 than LS1 did....

    Yea, i caught small segments of LS1 before i was deployed. Alot of it was laying down the foundations for further stuff, but the story i did catch is not even really present in that terrible journal.

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  • Heart Of Thorns

    HoT was best for me, might have be also due to being hyped a lot about the game, but still, I replayed the story many times and still enjoyed it most.

    From Living worlds, unfortunately I didnt played lw1 and I guess I will never have the chance to, so I most liked lw2, but that is probably because I bought all episodes at once, with other living worlds I have problem I feel its small portion of story at one time. In living world 3, 1st episode was really good, then it went down, which may be due to my main character for story (basically my first character on which I do every story first now, in older content decissions what I would like, canon character for me) being a charr and the lw3 was strongly designed to be for humans (joining Shining blade as a charr is just, idk)

    PoF was great only on one part, the part with Eater of Souls which got me lot of fun in feedback from players also :D

    Lw4 just idk, I lost probably hype about the game, which is continuing to Icebrood Saga too.

    One of my problems with story now is I really cant get bigger bound with characters. Mostly I like Rytlock, which is in the game from start and then Taimi, which was in most stories probably. Another characters are quite boring, annoying or without development. Lot of characters are introduced, but they dissapear from story again without any development or episodes are jumping from one characters to anothers, so you dont see some characters in really long time so you lost interest in them.

  • Personal Story

    Without a doubt, my favourite is the level 1-30 part of the personal story. Even though many of the individual storylines are probably not that strong in their own right, I think that part of the story does the best job of worldbuilding and establishing the various racial cultures. It goes downhill a bit after that, but I do still like the rest of it.

    Living World Season 1 was my least favourite by far. It felt like fan fiction written by people who didn't really understand the setting and hadn't actually played the personal story. I think Randulf summed it up pretty well. Personally I think they should have just declared it non-canonical, rather than having to spend Season 2 tidying up the mess they'd made.

  • MikeG.6389MikeG.6389 Member ✭✭✭
    None in particular

    I enjoy the game wherever it takes me.

  • SoulGuardian.6203SoulGuardian.6203 Member ✭✭✭✭
    None in particular

    @MikeG.6389 said:
    I enjoy the game wherever it takes me.

    Nice answer.
    I like that.

  • Personal Story

    After "cinematic conversations" of vanilla gw2 have removed, story became less impressive for me. We can hardly see facial expression of each character.

  • None in particular

    None of it. Since Kormir stole the player's divinity in Nightfall the entire storylines have sucked kitten. This game should be about killing Kormir, not the other kitten that it insists on pedalling. Frankly the storylines and characters are kitten in this series and the ability to murder NPCs a la ESO is sorely missing.

  • otto.5684otto.5684 Member ✭✭✭✭
    Personal Story

    I thought I was one of the few people who liked personal story and HoT. Apparently not.

  • Bassdeff.1895Bassdeff.1895 Member ✭✭✭
    LWS1

    Although I enjoyed all the story arcs and have recently replayed it all, LS1 is still my favorite for one simple reason, mystery and player interaction. it wasn't just a story that you played in an instance, it was a core part of the game, it intertwined with the seasonal events and festivals, it wasn't just episodes that you play and waited for the next. It was an integral part of the game world that slowly evolved over weeks and months and it left a mark on the Tyria that we still see today. Although some of the execution left to be desired it really gave you the feeling that the choices we collectively made and our actions mattered. I couldn't see it at the time, but today I understand what they were trying to accomplish and it was brilliant. Too bad it is impossible to replay it. How do you make something that leaves a permanent scar on the world replayable?

  • LWS4

    I can't say about LS1 'cause since it doesn't exist anymore and I met the game a few years after it was ridiculously wiped out I stick to LW4, chapter "Long Live the Lich" mainly because of pregnant Gorrik and Palawa Joko, which was particularly a very funny character and the final cutscene with him pretty much giving an earful to the Commander was very nice.

    LW3 is cool but because of the White Mantle cockroaches, Draconis Mons and fights in very tight areas (a very reddish one in Caudecus' questline — not sure if it was really against him or someone else) rendered it a "meh' to me.

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  • Rauderi.8706Rauderi.8706 Member ✭✭✭✭
    Personal Story

    Personal story had generally the right scope for an MMO: smaller stories within a large world. Stories that wrap up and don't need to interfere with the game as a whole.

    Sweeping up to the Pact and Zhaitan, though, and it starts to fall apart. It creates a grand story that shoots upward, needing to be topped with every expansion, until more and more, we have to have Kralkatorrik eating his way into the Mists, threatening all of time and space. And with each dragon that "needs killing," we just go through the same issue of an over-reaching problem that we're still just supposed to smite our way through.
    Which I guess is fine? Because I'm not here for the plot, I like the combat, more or less.

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  • LWS4

    The maps of the initial PoF expansion were fun because they brought back a nostalgic feeling from Nightfall. Nightfall is, by far and away, my favorite GW1 campaign, despite my absolute loathing of Kormir. I'm sort of indifferent about the actual storyline of the expansion.

    The first episode of LS4 was kind of disappointing, but the next few episodes got better; Specifically any time I had to interact with Palawa Joko. I love psychological villains like him. And then Aurene happened. Go figure.

    I've only just started the Jahai episode and I'm already feeling kinda iffy about it. The guy I liked most, chasing after, knowing I'm probably going to kill him... that feeling isn't really there. Fighting dragons, weirdly enough, isn't as fascinating to me. Killing a big dumb monster has never really been that interesting to me. Oh well.

    Haven't really done anything in LS3 because of how much I despise HoT, but I'll have to buck up and stomach it, if only to say I got it done.

  • MoriMoriMori.5349MoriMoriMori.5349 Member ✭✭✭
    edited February 14, 2020
    None in particular

    @Randulf.7614 said:
    a complete inability to write compelling villains over a long period

    My personal grief with all this so-called "heroic fantasy", GW2 included. When I see another mad clown or Totally Evil Guy Who Wants Everybody To Suffer Just Because, it ruins all immersion immediately. All story immediately feels shallow and unbelievable, and I just force myself to play through it, waiting impatiently when this useless dialogue bringing nothing of interest will end finally.
    Who do they think their audience is, 14 year olds who believe in an absolute evil?

  • Randulf.7614Randulf.7614 Member ✭✭✭✭
    None in particular

    @MoriMoriMori.5349 said:

    @Randulf.7614 said:
    a complete inability to write compelling villains over a long period

    My personal grief with all this so-called "heroic fantasy", GW2 included. When I see another mad clown or Totally Evil Guy Who Wants Everybody To Suffer Just Because, it ruins all immersion immediately. All story immediately feels shallow and unbelievable, and I just force myself to play through it, waiting impatiently when this useless dialogue bringing nothing of interest will end finally.
    Who do they think their audience is, 14 year olds who believe in an absolute evil?

    What sleep is here? What dreams there are in the unctuous coiling of the snakes mortal shuffling. weapon in my hand. My hand the arcing deathblow at the end of all things. The horror. The horror. I embrace it. . .

  • Rauderi.8706Rauderi.8706 Member ✭✭✭✭
    Personal Story

    @MoriMoriMori.5349 said:
    who believe in an absolute evil?

    GW2 would have done much better story-wise if it had stayed focused on smaller stories with compelling villains. Nothing greater than a single nation on a political scale.
    Caudacus was actually good for that. Not that he was particularly compelling, but he was familiar, and he had discernible motive with realistic means to achieve his goals.

    The elder dragons are just too massive on a physical and metaphysical scale to be appropriate threats for the heroic PC to work through. Not without a lot of deus ex, in the least, and we've grown tired of Asura solving all our problems with not-but-totally-are-computers. GW2 dragons are mostly just giant force-of-nature boogeymen that get a swat on the nose, promptly die, then ooze their magic all over to make more problems. Deciding where "the commander" fits in is just confusing.

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  • None in particular

    @Rauderi.8706 said:

    @MoriMoriMori.5349 said:
    who believe in an absolute evil?

    GW2 would have done much better story-wise if it had stayed focused on smaller stories with compelling villains. Nothing greater than a single nation on a political scale.
    Caudacus was actually good for that. Not that he was particularly compelling, but he was familiar, and he had discernible motive with realistic means to achieve his goals.

    The elder dragons are just too massive on a physical and metaphysical scale to be appropriate threats for the heroic PC to work through. Not without a lot of deus ex, in the least, and we've grown tired of Asura solving all our problems with not-but-totally-are-computers. GW2 dragons are mostly just giant force-of-nature boogeymen that get a swat on the nose, promptly die, then ooze their magic all over to make more problems. Deciding where "the commander" fits in is just confusing.

    Caudacus is a very meh character, to be honest. The very first moment I met him (that was I believe story mode of the Quinsdale dungeon, the path where the Queen is kidnapped, or something) I was able to tell he is the designated Evil Guy in this company. He talks like a stereotypical villain, this insincere overtones in his voice - clearly planted specifically by the script etc - that's clear sign of shallow writing and low production quality. The fact that somebody is clearly marked as pure villain already shows that whoever wrote the script aimed quite low in terms of quality. You don't build an interesting story on white and black characters, the world just almost never is simple.

    That would be nice to see a story of some charismatic leader of Machiavelli kind, who is at the same time is ruthless when their county needs it and inspiring and just when the cause needs it. Who commits crimes not because he is Very Evil, but out of pure pragmatic reasoning, because it benefits their country and guarantees its survival. Shown not as a strictly negative figure, but just as a person who accustomed to play games with thousands of human lives on regular basis, to do their job. A story of how them tried to side with a dragon forces in a futile attempt to save their nation, hoping they'll be able to somehow out-play and out-smart the dragon later, when opportunity strikes - and not noticing how the dragon outplayed them and made them a pawn in his plans.

    That would be something, for a change.

  • Icebrood Saga

    @MoriMoriMori.5349 said:
    That would be nice to see a story of some charismatic leader of Machiavelli kind, who is at the same time is ruthless when their county needs it and inspiring and just when the cause needs it. Who commits crimes not because he is Very Evil, but out of pure pragmatic reasoning, because it benefits their country and guarantees its survival.

    They had the perfect character for that sort of role. His name was Gavin. But we killed him.

  • Dreamy Lu.3865Dreamy Lu.3865 Member ✭✭✭✭
    None in particular

    Story is out of what I dislike the most doing in the game. It's simply too hard for me. The HoT story, for which I have several chars stuck forever at the instance with the leecher (even the south pillar trick is not sufficient to help me), was the droplet too much. The LS after that, happening in Dry Top and SW, just confirmed the nightmare that it is for me.
    Since then, I do story with one char only, with a team to help me if possible, and once it is behind me, I don't repeat. :3

    Two exceptions though: If it is a - for me - easy enough instance and that I can complete achievements once inside, or/and, if I join a team to help someone else.

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  • Kodama.6453Kodama.6453 Member ✭✭✭
    LWS1

    All the stuff that included Scarlet. Scarlet was bae.