Balance patch forgot one big thing...

[Waffler.1257]

Underwater combat still exists in WvW and there are some very busted underwater weapon skills, especially of the mesmer variety.

[RedShark.9548]

Nice meme.

[Mochi.8936]

I did happen upon someone under a fort while on Condi Mesmer. They did not take out any under weapon weapons or maybe lacked one, and we just humored each other for a few whole minutes while I tried to kill the guy with the trident. It just wasn't happening. :)) That's fun (yet very sad) to experience...once, and it was a stalling technique I happily let myself "fall" for to see exactly what would happen underwater.But yes, underwater is a joke, and a thief may usually turn that joke on whoever is foolish enough to get distracted, especially by the Red's lake/pond and Anza and just ping pongs between shores with swimmer teams on his/her tail trying their best to kill the one thief.

[Dawdler.8521]

Mesmer underwater is literally nothing compared to the ranger, so I find it hilarious that was the target for this thread

[SoftFootpaws.9134]

I think condi Necro is the strongest underwater overall, you can end up with 40-50 stacks of Bleeding and Poisoned on your enemies and in an AoE at that, and underwater few classes have any mobility so the Necro's usual weakness on land doesn't apply.

And that's without Epidemic. Its really something to behold.

[Sleepwalker.1398]

@Dawdler.8521 said:Mesmer underwater is literally nothing compared to the ranger, so I find it hilarious that was the target for this thread

Agreed. I remember an old streamer named Donee used to jump in water near red keep just trolling with his build.

[TinkTinkPOOF.9201]

@Dawdler.8521 said:Mesmer underwater is literally nothing compared to the ranger, so I find it hilarious that was the target for this thread

This.

I remember back in the day people would turn around once a range went into water, it was pointless.

Part of this has to do with lower DPS in water and the clunky nature of it and no stomping ability, as well as how strong pet resing is. Most cases where I have downed a ranger in water, they are able to revive faster than I can cleave, very annoying. However downed skills are very unbalanced across the board, some do great dmg in down state, some higher than regular auto attacks, along with some classes having hard cleave and stomp counters, yet other classes are totally useless. Though if downstate were removed or nerfed, this would not be a problem.

[borgs.6103]

@Dawdler.8521 said:Mesmer underwater is literally nothing compared to the ranger, so I find it hilarious that was the target for this thread

I've fought a pretty decent ranger on land, then the fight continued underwater(he was the one who dove in) and I won. As a thief. I'm gonna add this to my non-existent list of accomplishments in WvW.

[PeerlessArch.6547]

Yeah -- Thief, Spear with skill #5, dodge, skill#5, dodge, etc, etc. I had an entire zerg chase me around bay for like 4 laps until they finally gave up lol. Pretty busted, but eh...was fun. :)They should probably do a quick pass on underwater skills.

[kash.9213]

@PeerlessArch.6547 said:Yeah -- Thief, Spear with skill #5, dodge, skill#5, dodge, etc, etc. I had an entire zerg chase me around bay for like 4 laps until they finally gave up lol. Pretty busted, but eh...was fun. :)They should probably do a quick pass on underwater skills.

That just means none of them worked on their underwater game, not busted game, just lazy people.

[XenesisII.1540]

Dude, mesmer clones and phantasmals are the next targets to scream about, get with the nerf program, no one cares about underwater lol.

[Safandula.8723]

Good point. Rn all underwater skills are boosted.

[kamikharzeeh.8016]

i have to agree with xenesis... one of the least problems of WvW is the underwater-balance. (i even disagree with their regular "balance" patch, starting to fix things on the wrong end imo)

[Stand The Wall.6987]

the only underwater skill that should be available is this.

[RedShark.9548]

@borgs.6103 said:

@Dawdler.8521 said:Mesmer underwater is literally

nothing

compared to the ranger, so I find it hilarious that was the target for this thread

I've fought a pretty decent ranger on land, then the fight continued underwater(he was the one who dove in) and I won. As a thief. I'm gonna add this to my non-existent list of accomplishments in WvW.

It actually speaks clear understandable sentences, woah.

[Lan Deathrider.5910]

Warrior underwater weapons are fairly strong so I've never been bothered with chasing someone into the water for a free kill.