Portal buff?

[Moody Soul.5617]

In pvp/wvw portal is 30 seconds and only has a use in wvw to teleport mass groups what if the time to use portal instead of 30 seconds gets raised to 45 seconds?

[Moody Soul.5617]

I just want to know what people think about portal

[Crab Fear.1624]

Bump it back to 60 seconds but limit uses to 4 or 5 times max. (down from 20)

[Tayga.3192]

Glamors need buffs in general. I don't know what's with the hate for aoes on mesmer.

Edit nobody will see:Portal keeps decappers and sidenoders in check, and forces the opposite team to act accordingly. This is obviously strong but not overpowered.However, 30 seconds only work (somewhat) in a coordinated team. Taking portal to ranked is like playing with only two utilities.Change it back to 60 seconds.

[Leonidrex.5649]

@Crab Fear.1624 said:Bump it back to 60 seconds but limit uses to 4 or 5 times max. (down from 20)

portal is only getting used in WvW. Lets nerf it for WvW.5Head

[Crab Fear.1624]

@Leonidrex.5649 said:

@Crab Fear.1624 said:Bump it back to 60 seconds but limit uses to 4 or 5 times max. (down from 20)

portal is only getting used in WvW. Lets nerf it for WvW.5Head

A nerf there but buff here 6head

[hotte in space.2158]

YES ! I dont play mesmer but somehow I miss portal. More diversity can only be good for PvP.Lets bring Helseth back into game :p

[Leonidrex.5649]

@hotte in space.2158 said:YES ! I dont play mesmer but somehow I miss portal. More diversity can only be good for PvP.Lets bring Helseth back into game :p

alot of utilities on alot of classes should be looked at, every utility should be at the very least playable.

[hotte in space.2158]

@Leonidrex.5649 said:

alot of utilities on alot of classes should be looked at, every utility should be at the very least playable.

Absolutely^^ All utilities on all classes should be looked at !

[Stand The Wall.6987]

it was nerfed for a reason. lets move on with our lives.

[Daishi.6027]

I'm fine with leaving it. This is what the community wanted for years:Most punishable burst.Mediocre team utility and team fight support (because this is what mes was historically taken for)and now dodge less than any other class, even though it already did this compared to any medium as well as a couple others.

Just leave it as it is and let's see if anyone calls mes OP after all this... Who am I kidding, probably will since condi can passively damage. Not like that wasn't the ONLY major issue since season 9-12ish other than chaos shenanigans- an issue of their own making- but whatever; PSO2 coming to the west.

[azzardome.9184]

if mirage turns out to be complete garbage portal could save it. i say buff it to 45s to see how/if the meta will change. It would be fun to see it played more.

[ArthurDent.9538]

Portal was cool and required intelligence to use in a team setting until Mesmer was able to stand on its own in most/all 1v1's. Then it got way too much mileage out of just leaving portal on a capped point, being able to roam almost freely and near instantly return to stop any decap attempts. So only bring back portal if mes doesn't have strong duelist builds or the duelist builds absolutely require 3 combat utilities post patch.

[Koen.1327]

lower the cooldownhave an actual glamour trait

[storm.3120]

@ArthurDent.9538 said:Portal was cool and required intelligence to use in a team setting until Mesmer was able to stand on its own in most/all 1v1's. Then it got way too much mileage out of just leaving portal on a capped point, being able to roam almost freely and near instantly return to stop any decap attempts. So only bring back portal if mes doesn't have strong duelist builds or the duelist builds absolutely require 3 combat utilities post patch.Mesmer is a duelist and should be good at duels. Even when mesmer is good at duels (and using 3 utilities) everyone are still mad. (as long as it exists).

[ArthurDent.9538]

@Odik.4587 said:

@ArthurDent.9538 said:Portal was cool and required intelligence to use in a team setting until Mesmer was able to stand on its own in most/all 1v1's. Then it got way too much mileage out of just leaving portal on a capped point, being able to roam almost freely and near instantly return to stop any decap attempts. So only bring back portal if mes doesn't have strong duelist builds or the duelist builds absolutely require 3 combat utilities post patch.Mesmer is a duelist and should be good at duels. Even when mesmer is good at duels (and using 3 utilities) everyone are still mad. (as long as it exists).

Then leave portal as is, ez pz.

[storm.3120]

@ArthurDent.9538 said:

@Odik.4587 said:

@ArthurDent.9538 said:Portal was cool and required intelligence to use in a team setting until Mesmer was able to stand on its own in most/all 1v1's. Then it got way too much mileage out of just leaving portal on a capped point, being able to roam almost freely and near instantly return to stop any decap attempts. So only bring back portal if mes doesn't have strong duelist builds or the duelist builds absolutely require 3 combat utilities post patch.Mesmer is a duelist and should be good at duels. Even when mesmer is good at duels (and using 3 utilities) everyone are still mad. (as long as it exists).

Then leave portal as is, ez pz.My point is people are always mad regardless of mesmer performance.But I agree, buff mesmer and auto-ban everyone who whine about it, I'm with you bro !

[Halikus.1406]

They already destroyed chrono, no class deserves that treatment, and now are balancing mirage.I don't see a problem with restoring portal to it's previous duration, they gotta have something to excel at, if portal is to be that in which they excel I don't see why not. Besides.... portal always had a pretty good skill ceiling, it would be nice to see the old portal plays in the game, it made the game a lot more dynamic than just thief spamming sb 5 to out-rotate everyone.

[Azure The Heartless.3261]

I was against the portal nerf to begin with. It took a reasonable amount of strategic thinking to set up any major plays with it, and even featured in some gimmick duelist builds. They should put it back to where it was and see how that pans out.

[Stand The Wall.6987]

1v0 such engage much intense

[mortrialus.3062]

Yeah, unnerf portal.

Honestly people underestimate how serious sacrificing a direct combat utility for portal is. It means you're losing either Arcane Thievery, so you lose your boon steal and condition transfer, or you're losing Signet of Midnight/Illusory Ambush/Mantra of Resolve/Null Field ect. ect. Anyway you look at it, taking portal opens up a new area and opportunity for players to break through your capacity to 1v1 them as you always have serious new holes opened in your defense no matter what you're sacrificing.

There's a reason outrage against condition mirage hit a fever pitch when portal was nerfed and no longer worth taking. In many ways Portal is a power limiter and when condition mirages weren't taking it anymore their capacity to 1v1 skyrocketed just because of how much better they were able to shore up their defenses and their capacity to respond to certain situations like being loaded with conditions or an enemy ramping up boons or being +1'd against.

[Lincolnbeard.1735]

@"mortrialus.3062" said:There's a reason outrage against condition mirage hit a fever pitch when portal was nerfed and no longer worth taking. In many ways Portal is a power limiter and when condition mirages weren't taking it anymore their capacity to 1v1 skyrocketed just because of how much better they were able to shore up their defenses and their capacity to respond to certain situations like being loaded with conditions or an enemy ramping up boons or being +1'd against.

Another nerf suggested by the "knowledgeable community" that did nothing to fix the real problem as usual. Still ANerf listens to them...

@"Halikus.1406" said:and now are balancing mirage.

"balancing", you forgot the " ".

[Leonidrex.5649]

baby steps. they dont have to full revert to 60s.they can buff it to 35s and see how it goes, if thats still weak try 40 or 45s. seeking balance is a thin line