Math.5123 Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 Might be time to roll back the pet damage a little bit. Ele stolen ability is also bugged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Fear.1624 Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 Ice shard stabAlso, my power is actually 2735, i took this photo as revealed expired but it was +120 from revealed, and it is actually only 2735 normally.I don't know if its because of the normalize of weapons to the mid point only, but the damage with my stats here is at 2k and if that crits with executioner and all of the other deadly arts and my sigils it can do over ~10kIs that what you mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Math.5123 Posted February 26, 2020 Author Share Posted February 26, 2020 @"Crab Fear.1624" said:Ice shard stabI don't know if its because of the normalize of weapons to the mid point only, but the damage with my stats here is at 2k and if that crits with executioner and all of the other deadly arts and my sigils it can do over 12kIs that what you mean?Yes, there's no way that's intended. (I hope) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Fear.1624 Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 @"AngelLovesFredrik.6741" said:@"Crab Fear.1624" said:Ice shard stabI don't know if its because of the normalize of weapons to the mid point only, but the damage with my stats here is at 2k and if that crits with executioner and all of the other deadly arts and my sigils it can do over 12kIs that what you mean?Yes, there's no way that's intended. (I hope)probably not, i dont remember it doing over 4-5k with the same set uphere is basically no stack no vuln no thing but below 50% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bravan.3876 Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 I always said that reworking pets to be more utility based instead high dmg would be way better to balance Rangers and increase the skill ceiling for that class on all specs. Instead they removed a pet from Soulbeats and let the pets still overperform. Another gg! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genesis.5169 Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 Yeah SB is really strong right now i'm not one to call things OP but i've fought a few and their damage is scary and the pet is deals tons of damage and hard to kill at that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eurantien.4632 Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 If you aren't running toughness, pets have always been able of doing this much damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raknar.4735 Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 Wow, SB seems really strong currently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyric.7813 Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 @Genesis.5169 said:Yeah SB is really strong right now i'm not one to call things OP but i've fought a few and their damage is scary and the pet is deals tons of damage and hard to kill at that.Sbs suck right now it s core ranger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revolution.5409 Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 Is Tiger the new gazelle? LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaRaPhReNiA.8763 Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 You can kill Tiger or birds really fast if that helps... tiger was always hard hitting but fairly ez to dodge... But I guess ppl just wanna complain and not learn to check the animation :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoopop.5630 Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 imagine allowing pets to do anywhere above 5k dmg when most spec have 15-17k health as it is......pretty insane especially after the nerf to CC/Damage across board.However AT the moment i'm more concern with fb then ranger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skotlex.7580 Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 Generally speaking, there have been complains in these forums for years about how useless pets are, not really because of their raw damage, but because of how easy it is to kite them and get their AI stuck when using terrain to your advantage. I say, ANet probably is gathering numbers, and will be able to tell if pets are that over performing. Giving high damage to compensate for poor AI is probably not the optimal solution, but it's probably the easiest way to go? >_> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eurantien.4632 Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 If you're gonna boast big damage numbers you need to state exactly how it happened. If I go full glass (beastmaster, marksmanship) to buff my pets damage. Throw on 15 stacks of vuln, buff my tiger or my bird F2 for +115% damage. I'm still not hitting these numbers.If I cant hit these numbers in the mists, how am I supposed to hit them in game?If someone isn't dodging 25 might stacked, 25 vuln, sic em, attack of opportunity, remorseless tiger F2. They deserve this much damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CutesySylveon.8290 Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 @Eurantien.4632 said:If you're gonna boast big damage numbers you need to state exactly how it happened. If I go full glass (beastmaster, marksmanship) to buff my pets damage. Throw on 15 stacks of vuln, buff my tiger or my bird F2 for +115% damage. I'm still not hitting these numbers.If I cant hit these numbers in the mists, how am I supposed to hit them in game?If someone isn't dodging 25 might stacked, 25 vuln, sic em, attack of opportunity, remorseless tiger F2. They deserve this much damage.Have you forgotten that CC and immobilize exists? If you want to leave these stupid damage numbers, then fine. When you get locked down by Weaver, I'll gladly spam my 9k vaults because you should have just dodged them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Math.5123 Posted February 26, 2020 Author Share Posted February 26, 2020 @Eurantien.4632 said:If you're gonna boast big damage numbers you need to state exactly how it happened. If I go full glass (beastmaster, marksmanship) to buff my pets damage. Throw on 15 stacks of vuln, buff my tiger or my bird F2 for +115% damage. I'm still not hitting these numbers.If I cant hit these numbers in the mists, how am I supposed to hit them in game?If someone isn't dodging 25 might stacked, 25 vuln, sic em, attack of opportunity, remorseless tiger F2. They deserve this much damage.Maul, sic'em f2 petswap f2 for the bird one. And just maul sic'em f2 for tiger. No might, no vulnerability Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eurantien.4632 Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 @"AngelLovesFredrik.6741" said:@Eurantien.4632 said:If you're gonna boast big damage numbers you need to state exactly how it happened. If I go full glass (beastmaster, marksmanship) to buff my pets damage. Throw on 15 stacks of vuln, buff my tiger or my bird F2 for +115% damage. I'm still not hitting these numbers.If I cant hit these numbers in the mists, how am I supposed to hit them in game?If someone isn't dodging 25 might stacked, 25 vuln, sic em, attack of opportunity, remorseless tiger F2. They deserve this much damage.Maul, sic'em f2 petswap f2 for the bird one. And just maul sic'em f2 for tiger. No might, no vulnerabilityWas your target in downed state or not wearing armor (ie naked)? These numbers still seem too high. As in, my numbers aren't this high when I do this. I'll correct this if I'm wrong when I try again later.Also running sic em on core ranger has never been viable, would be surprised if it was now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
storm.3120 Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 Just leaving it here. Good memes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foste.3098 Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Ice_Shard_StabFeast your eyes on this lads, the damage of ice shard stab is not a bug but a buff, albeit one stemming from systematic changes i would guess.Anet did a buff pass on all of the core (also meaning daredevil) pve stolen skills, now it just so happens that ice shard stab is also a pve stolen skill as well as the ele stolen skill, so it got buffed to have a 2.0 power scaling coefficient up from a 1.0. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trevor Boyer.6524 Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 @Eurantien.4632 said:If you're gonna boast big damage numbers you need to state exactly how it happened. If I go full glass (beastmaster, marksmanship) to buff my pets damage. Throw on 15 stacks of vuln, buff my tiger or my bird F2 for +115% damage. I'm still not hitting these numbers.If I cant hit these numbers in the mists, how am I supposed to hit them in game?If someone isn't dodging 25 might stacked, 25 vuln, sic em, attack of opportunity, remorseless tiger F2. They deserve this much damage.Yeah, when I saw this thread, I immediately went to replicate the numbers on Tiger, and I actually wasn't able to do it, even with a gimmick build designed to do so, that would completely suck in an actual match.So I don't know if someone is trolling for nerf propaganda or what, maybe these screenshots were taken pre-patch a long time ago or while a couple of people were standing there buffing the Ranger pet or something, but I have to agree that if a person is being hit with 12k+ Pounce, they deserve it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stand The Wall.6987 Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 nvm pls delete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revolution.5409 Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 I did about 10k damage against light armor with Owl using NM / MM / BM with Bountiful Hunter together with Maul and Sickem, I find it hard to believe that the damage was done without boons or vulnerabilities, but then my owl died in 2 Aoe making changes to this won't change Rangers' life, this Build would be unusable in any case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Math.5123 Posted February 26, 2020 Author Share Posted February 26, 2020 I'll try and find time to record it tonight.It was done on a renegade (obviously wearing armor) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tayga.3192 Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 @Trevor Boyer.6524 said:I have to agree that if a person is being hit with 12k+ Pounce, they deserve it.Pounce has a coefficient of 4.168 (woah), Tiger has 1524 power baseline. Assuming pvp greatsword uses exotic weapon strength, the midpoint is 1047.5.Pack Alpha gives pet 150 (1674 in total) power and 150 ferocity while Pet's Prowess gives it 300 ferocity (woah). This ferocity totals out at 180% more damage.Assuming 0 might,A tiger with Attack of Opportunity uses Pounce on a light armor 0 toughness target for ((1047.5 4.168 1674)/1920) 1.8 1.5 = 10278 damage.If you are over 90% health, your pet deal 10% more damage from Loud Whistle so the damage is 10278 * 1.1 = 11306.This isn't aligning stars, you just need to be running beastmastery and do maul + pounce (excluding maul damage).Assuming it hits light armor target with 500 toughness: 8154 damage (8970 while ranger is over 90% health).I didn't take any might or other damage modifiers in account.Pet coefficients should be lowered by like 50% AT LEAST, considering most of the pet attacks are like Chilling Slash (2.75 per attack x 2) or Tail Swipe (3.75). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonidrex.5649 Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 @Tayga.3192 that explains things lolDamage (12x): 720 (2.7)? -> this is ENTIRE soul spiral from reaperDamage: 1,108 (4.168)? -> pounce from pet, big LuL.GS2 + GS3 + GS4 + 3x clone F1 from mesmer has lower coof then pounce from pet. That explains things :D Edit, aparently its 100% to crit too. lul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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