Chorazin.4107 Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 If you are talking core then sure it is not amazing but it is at least playable. The three main specs getting a lot of attention are all still in the Holo elite specialisation, Prot Holo, Elixir Rifle and Gadget Holo.I think bunker Scrapper does ok, probably just below these three. The problem being you could just add a FB or a Prot Holo in that Bunker spot. And it would be a better in slot than Scrapper I guess? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stand The Wall.6987 Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 its a bit too early to tell, but from what I've seen so far is that anet is still focusing on just a few builds per patch. 1 goes up, 1 goes down. I really hope they take a more general approach and improve diversity across the board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILoveMonotony.1479 Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 I don't think that focusing on the most obvious outlier is surprising? Either way, the gap between various builds is closing. You're not totally useless anymore if you don't run the latest FOTM. That's great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarnacleBoy.6918 Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 @Elmo Benchwarmer.3025 said:I don't think that focusing on the most obvious outlier is surprising? Either way, the gap between various builds is closing. You're not totally useless anymore if you don't run the latest FOTM. That's great.This comment did not age well at all unfortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILoveMonotony.1479 Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 @BarnacleBoy.6918 said:@Elmo Benchwarmer.3025 said:I don't think that focusing on the most obvious outlier is surprising? Either way, the gap between various builds is closing. You're not totally useless anymore if you don't run the latest FOTM. That's great.This comment did not age well at all unfortunately.Oh? I'm still doing fine playing core only. And I've ran into several players who are doing very well, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarnacleBoy.6918 Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 @Elmo Benchwarmer.3025 said:@BarnacleBoy.6918 said:@Elmo Benchwarmer.3025 said:I don't think that focusing on the most obvious outlier is surprising? Either way, the gap between various builds is closing. You're not totally useless anymore if you don't run the latest FOTM. That's great.This comment did not age well at all unfortunately.Oh? I'm still doing fine playing core only. And I've ran into several players who are doing very well, too.“The gap between various builds is closing” is turning out to be very incorrect. You rarely see more than the usual 5-6 builds in pvp, and anyone who isnt using one is food. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILoveMonotony.1479 Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 @BarnacleBoy.6918 said:@Elmo Benchwarmer.3025 said:@BarnacleBoy.6918 said:@Elmo Benchwarmer.3025 said:I don't think that focusing on the most obvious outlier is surprising? Either way, the gap between various builds is closing. You're not totally useless anymore if you don't run the latest FOTM. That's great.This comment did not age well at all unfortunately.Oh? I'm still doing fine playing core only. And I've ran into several players who are doing very well, too.“The gap between various builds is closing” is turning out to be very incorrect. You rarely see more than the usual 5-6 builds in pvp, and anyone who isnt using one is food. At this time that's a gross exaggeration. I probably would have agreed with you before the patch though. Back then a core Engineer was indeed "food". Now it isn't anymore. At the moment it's entirely possible to do well on it.Anyway, I feel like this is a fruitless discussion. So I wish you good luck and many fun games. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarnacleBoy.6918 Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 @Elmo Benchwarmer.3025 said:@BarnacleBoy.6918 said:@Elmo Benchwarmer.3025 said:@BarnacleBoy.6918 said:@Elmo Benchwarmer.3025 said:I don't think that focusing on the most obvious outlier is surprising? Either way, the gap between various builds is closing. You're not totally useless anymore if you don't run the latest FOTM. That's great.This comment did not age well at all unfortunately.Oh? I'm still doing fine playing core only. And I've ran into several players who are doing very well, too.“The gap between various builds is closing” is turning out to be very incorrect. You rarely see more than the usual 5-6 builds in pvp, and anyone who isnt using one is food. At this time that's a gross exaggeration. I probably would have agreed with you before the patch though. Back then a core Engineer was indeed "food". Now it isn't anymore. At the moment it's entirely possible to do well on it.Anyway, I feel like this is a fruitless discussion. So I wish you good luck and many fun games. ?How strange to dismiss someones evidence with “it isn’t anymore” and then say the discussion is fruitless...Take care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zzik.5873 Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 If youre build is int meta welp, dont even try GG. Engineer is pretty weak in gemeral. We do have some build in pvp and wvw that work to a certain extend. For pve is dead in the water tho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enduronex.4865 Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 My problem with the changes to PvE (read, NOT PvP, not WvW) is that they took away the stability from Corona Burst and somehow made the penalty for overheating WORSE with the disabled skills update because even if you use Vent Exhaust trait to remove your heat, you still cannot use Tool Belt skills, which in the case of Med Kit, is your primary source of sustain... that, I do have a problem with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rezzet.3614 Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 come on Anet all we ask of you is to have just one of your developers actually play the damn profession at high level before nuking stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ledernierrempart.6871 Posted May 31, 2020 Share Posted May 31, 2020 scrapper is better than ever in pve. even outshining most class in power burst capacity with a good group combo.core engi is good only in condi.in general engineer suffer in pvp/WvW as its a class with tons of cc ability that deals now 0 damage.but as a support dps it really shine especially in little group fight.i now often consider using scrapper instead of holo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zzik.5873 Posted May 31, 2020 Share Posted May 31, 2020 @ledernierrempart.6871 said:scrapper is better than ever in pve. even outshining most class in power burst capacity with a good group combo.core engi is good only in condi.in general engineer suffer in pvp/WvW as its a class with tons of cc ability that deals now 0 damage.but as a support dps it really shine especially in little group fight.i now often consider using scrapper instead of holo.Holo feal underwhelming now, was good and fun at first but nerf, after nerf. Now what does it have that scrapper cant do better? Yeah self damage I guess... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pninak.1069 Posted May 31, 2020 Share Posted May 31, 2020 I don't see the big deal. in pve condi holo does extremly well and pscrapper is propably doing well too. now as for cc. everybody got the axe regarding cc-skill dmg. it just means some elites can't be played. so instead of primelight beam you are propably best off playing elite mortar kit. think anets approach with 0 dmg cc-skills is similiar to how mesmer shutdown worked in gw1.https://guildwiki.gamepedia.com/Blackout Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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