What's the purpose of Warclaw now?

[len.7809]

It used to run faster when in your territories, now its just a bit faster than swiftness.It used to stomp downed, now its just an fancy cleave.Its still a waste of supply pulling gate with this thing, you could try to build a ram with that.

What's the purpose of warclaw now?

[Zhaid Zhem.6508]

Skins on gemstore.

[subversiontwo.7501]

@"len.7809" said:now its just a bit faster than swiftness.This was always the purpose.That and selling gemstore skins.I don't mind either to be honest, the only sore on the legacy of the Warclaw now is that it was heralded as "something big" and WvW as mode has yet to receive "something big" years before before or since.

[Sugar Min.5834]

@len.7809 said:It used to run faster when in your territories, now its just a bit faster than swiftness.It used to stomp downed, now its just an fancy cleave.Its still a waste of supply pulling gate with this thing, you could try to build a ram with that.

What's the purpose of warclaw now?

And with its nerfed HP, even from a low cliff it will fall to its death killing you as well. Moreover, the desert borderland has many steps, uneven grounds, cliffs and the Kittypaw (does not deserve the name Warclaw anymore) has difficulties running over them and you will easily fall to your death if you are not careful.

I have gone back to PVE recent weeks and comparing the Warclaw with the real mounts in PVE, what we have now is a useless mount after the present nerf team stripped her off almost all her skills meant for WvW gameplay. Now she is there only to make money. That's what ANet hopes. Give us back some of her skills or give us a real balance team.

[Teratus.2859]

Pretty much a perma swiftness buff with a changable cosmetic skin, that's about all the Warclaw is now.

[Mini Crinny.6190]

@Mil.3562 said:

@len.7809 said:It used to run faster when in your territories, now its just a bit faster than swiftness.It used to stomp downed, now its just an fancy cleave.Its still a waste of supply pulling gate with this thing, you could try to build a ram with that.

What's the purpose of warclaw now?

And with its nerfed HP, even from a low cliff it will fall to its death killing you as well. Moreover, the desert borderland has many steps, uneven grounds, cliffs and the Kittypaw (does not deserve the name Warclaw anymore) has difficulties running over them and you will easily fall to your death if you are not careful.

I have gone back to PVE recent weeks and comparing the Warclaw with the real mounts in PVE, what we have now is a useless mount after the present nerf team stripped her off almost all her skills meant for WvW gameplay. Now she is there only to make money. That's what ANet hopes. Give us back some of her skills or give us a real balance team.

They made the mount only for Gemstore skins, if they actually cared about it they would of put more time and effort into making it work in WvW like preventing people skipping past gates and walls, mount actually fitting through the door on certain places like bay and hills and actually thinking about how this mount kills any type of roaming gameplay because you are immune to any form of cc and having an extra 3 dodges.

[Blood Red Arachnid.2493]

As a fairly glass roamer, I'm glad for the HP buffer that the warclaw gives me. Yes, people can lance it to get me off, but that just means that we start the fight on even footing instead of being downed instantly.

[Doug.4930]

@len.7809 said:What's the purpose of warclaw now?

@len.7809 said:faster than swiftness.

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[SWI.4127]

A bunch of free health, mobility, 2 dodges, CC immunity, and faster than swiftness speed? Still sounds pretty good to me. If it were really pointless, then people wouldn't use them. That's definitely not the case as everyone constantly mounts up as soon as they're OOC.

[MedievalThings.5417]

I want them to finish "fixing" it.The 1 skill could roll over.The 2 skill could chase a ball of yarn.The 3 skill could lick it's paws.The 4 skill will get removed cause it's too OP.

[hobotnicax.7918]

skin sales

thieves going ooc and into the sunset on their mounts when they feel like it

mounts should never had been added to WvW

[Voltekka.2375]

Well, you're still immune to any CC, you have an extra 10k hp, two extra dodges, plus slightly faster than swiftness. I would say that it is still good for what it offers.

[DemonSeed.3528]

@"Mil.3562" said:And with its nerfed HP, even from a low cliff it will fall to its death killing you as well.There's actually a way to go down cliffs (even the ones that kill you) using warclaw in any territory without it killing you. It just depends how you go down the face, you just have to clip the tail while going down and you won't die as long as you "interrupt" the inertia on the way (note: it doesn't always have to be a ledge you can stand on, just anything sticking out). Also make sure to never use jump from cliffs, that's definitely a killer, it kind of accelerates you even on the small ones. I actually mentioned this a long time ago a few times since the launch of mount but it got ignored most of the time. You can even ditch gliding if you know how to deal with most of the cliff faces using warclaw.

[SoftFootpaws.9134]

@Voltekka.2375 said:Well, you're still immune to any CC, you have an extra 10k hp, two extra dodges, plus slightly faster than swiftness. I would say that it is still good for what it offers.

Its less than 10k now, and incredibly prone to taking heavy damage from small pebbles on the ground. The speed is also slower than any class with Permaswift and leaps or teleports, Weaver at its base and anyone running Rune of Speed.

Which is pretty much everything. Except Necro, I guess.

As for CC immunity, that's something it never should've had. I don't get why it didn't have a Defiance bar instead.

[len.7809]

the CC immunity thingy I see it useful if you wanna join the main group safely or Niking or Addidasing away from the enemies.But, tbh, that shit encourage people to avoid fights in small scale and only fight when they have enough numbers.

Anyways, I agree with most of you, its for skin sales.

[Lalary.3561]

You still get two 450 range leap dodges, immune to every CC in the game, extra 8k+ health, faster than swiftness and no speed penalty while in combat.. so what are you on about?

[sneakytails.5629]

kittenpaw................................................

[Virdo.1540]

Its supposed to give the players a feeling like "WOW THEY EVEN HAVE MOUNTS IN WVW"

thats it.

[Turkeyspit.3965]

@Zhaid Zhem.6508 said:Skins on gemstore.

Until ANET actually decides to share with us what their vision for the Warclaw was, and currently is, this is the only answer I can agree with.

[KrHome.1920]

@"Mil.3562" said:And with its nerfed HP, even from a low cliff it will fall to its death killing you as well.Falling damage is percentage based. Your health pool does not matter.

https://wiki.guildwars2.com/images/7/75/Fall_Damage.jpg

@warclaw:It's still useful. But it doesn't matter as wvw sucks anyway due to population imbalances.

[Antycypator.9874]

You can travel faster (+33%, just like swiftness).This is all what matters.

[Shao.7236]

So it was a problem before, now it isn't but that's a problem too?

[Zhaid Zhem.6508]

@Shao.7236 said:So it was a problem before, now it isn't but that's a problem too?

The speed difference was unfair to me. Plus the damage buffed with Maul for example or other , and the 10 players stomp were stupidly too high.Same speed for everyone + 3 targets were fair. Now, it's just swiftness but with a better effect/skin.

[juno.1840]

It's purpose primarily is equalized movement around the map. Before warclaw, there was a need to roll swiftness which is honestly a bad out-of-combat design. In addition, some professions are easier than others to move/escape during travel and the warclaw normalizes that disparity. A slow moving profession can now get back to their team with the same effectiveness as a fast moving, elusive profession.

I think the warclaw is in a great place now. It's impact on combat has been largely negated -- which is perfect. It more precisely fits a roll of out-of-combat movement equalizer.