Tanbin.2436 Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 @mistsim.2748 said:@"iKagura.1903" said:@Trevor Boyer.6524 said:@ollbirtan.2915 said:@mistsim.2748 said:@ollbirtan.2915 said:.As for druid, currently it has lots of self sustain and disengage, and don't even get me started on that kitten perma immob trapper build which sees plays not only in wvw but in spvp too. It's a low tier build in spvp. It does very little damage, and it's mostly just known for being "annoying". It can't bunker, it can't side-note, it has less than mediocre teamfight. It's completely ineffectual against the better players in Plat+, but I can see how Gold players and below can be impressed by it. Oops didn't see Trevor wrote the same.Where do you see me being 'impressed' by the said build? I'm merely pointing out some of the fallacies and biases that from OP's original post. YeahI guess the top 100 on both NA and EU and all the MAT teams must be biased.Because for some reason, despite how impressively strong the Druid is, none of them are using it.Ah yes, ive seen this with soulbeast as well... godlike dps, godlike defenses, insanely busted and can move to each side of the map blazingly fast, godlike roamer / +1'er.but everyone runs nade holo / crev. top tier players and meta users must be stupid!!MASSIVE SHRUGBut there are top players running Soulbeast and Core.since the mota and the realization that crev is better in all aspects over core bunker / sb bunker most have moved off to crev - it is just better in all ways compared to it ... shadowfall might be the only ranger player left that is actually top level, this is in pvp though, can't say for wvw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stand The Wall.6987 Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 yo did you change your avatar cuz you're angry with the patch/ game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shiyo.3578 Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 @Trevor Boyer.6524 said:Everything has Stealth and Hard/Soft CC lockdown nowadays. You do realize current Holosmith is pretty much a Soulbeast DPS combined with a Druid sustain, right? That isn't even an embellishment. I dunno how anyone can come in here and make a statement about Druid like this, while there are builds in play right now that greatly outplay the Druid in every catagory, DPS, Sustain, Disengage, Support, CC, everything.Yes, that's an issue that the feb mega patch was trying to address. Let's not regress back to pre-feb just because holosmith ignored the patch entirely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanAlcedo.3281 Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 Why focus on CA when everything else need changes first?The absolute first priority are the weapons and utilities.It doesnt matter how good the class mechanic is when skill 1 to 0 are not even worth pressing.Just let glyphs extend CA duration like Rage skills do for berserker.Rage skill are on the same level as druid glyphs. Low impact. But that way, they would become "usefull" and fix the short uptime of CA.I mean.. what else are you gonna play in a support role? SaR? PfffffAnd dont get me started on how druid needs traits to get where other classes start.Having to take a trait so Warhorn gives regen?Add the fact that warhorn is nothing more then a blast finisher... Speaking of, staff boils down to exactly the same."It has a blast finisher"If all that is fixed, then buff CA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Za Shaloc.3908 Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 My apologies, this got posted in the wrong thread. Editing comment out. Screwy phone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trevor Boyer.6524 Posted July 8, 2020 Author Share Posted July 8, 2020 @Stand The Wall.6987 said:yo did you change your avatar cuz you're angry with the patch/ game?NoI just play as Gank now. Way funnier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trevor Boyer.6524 Posted July 22, 2020 Author Share Posted July 22, 2020 Yeah so it really hit me hard today when I stopped to really take a look at the effective party support and damage output that Scourge is providing vs. Druid's support and damage provided. The Scourge has not only super barriers, but also tons of cleanse and might buffing. It also spits out a ton of boon to condi conversion.What happened there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talindra.4958 Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 Druid has different advantage.. it lacks of stability but heal and condi remove it can be better than fb also it has more cc than fb.I have been playing support druid healer in wvw.. pretty cool.. anet need to buff glyph a bit more and to provide druid with retaliation / stab.. I also been enjoying druid in PvP .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anduriell.6280 Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 Druid should not be a thing in sPVP. It is already said not all specs should be meta in all game modes and Druid because it's design is something that could go wrong in so many ways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinkerer.2167 Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 @Talindra.4958 said:Druid has different advantage.. it lacks of stability but heal and condi remove it can be better than fb also it has more cc than fb.I have been playing support druid healer in wvw.. pretty cool.. anet need to buff glyph a bit more and to provide druid with retaliation / stab.. I also been enjoying druid in PvP .. so basically mender's scourge literally counters it more than it already counters FB then? it's a non-offender against good players in a team composition and is an easy focus in team fight setting pretty much an insta down for a cleave , tempest is better in all ways than both fb and druid... it being a side noder is another story though. it can be strong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeadCrowned.6834 Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 @anduriell.6280 said:Druid should not be a thing in sPVP. It is already said not all specs should be meta in all game modes and Druid because it's design is something that could go wrong in so many ways. Deadeye shouldnt be a thing in any gamemode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinkerer.2167 Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 @anduriell.6280 said:Druid should not be a thing in sPVP. It is already said not all specs should be meta in all game modes and Druid because it's design is something that could go wrong in so many ways. it's not anything in pvp already LOL , hasn't been for a VERY long time so it's working as intended for pvp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigpapasmurf.5623 Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 Thinking on trying my WvW DPS staff/LB build in PvP for the lulz and see how it does.Been having a blast with it and people assume im condi where im a druid cuz i mean...who plays a DPS druid...so subpar harhar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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